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ME$$ENGER · 01-31-10, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Méo

But they can't take personal data from your computer, there is international law(s) that protect private life.

Should they cross that line, they would suffer severe consequences.

Well, put it this way. Suppose you buy a car and the dealer installs a device on the car that connects to some server every single time you want to start the engine to prevent the car being started by thieves. It's not taking your personal data, either. Would you agree to it?

To me, I don't want a car that goes ET phone home every time I want to drive it. What if the party in question goes out of business? What if I'm in some remote corner of the world? What if it malfunctions? One result: I'm left stranded somewhere unable to start my damned car!

And in the above example, the device is actually meant to protect my property. In the case of DRM, what does it protect? I know it does nothing good for those that pay.

Méo · 01-31-10, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Don't be so naive as to think that just because they shouldn't, they won't, or because it's not legal they won't.

Naive, Hmmm... people here are pretty quick on class action, don't you remember.

Méo · 01-31-10, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Also, how about answering some of the previously posed questions in the thread, or are you going to cherry pick your responses in a Ubi-esque manner in this thread?

Patience!

let me have the time to use the google translation, the urban dictionary, the thefreedictionary.com

Now what is your questions exactly?

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Steeltrap · 01-31-10, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Méo

What I meant is that there is a lot of people got more important problems (family problems, love problems, money problems, alcohol problems and so on...) and they would find it ludicrious that I worry so much for this DRM thing... you know!

What makes you assume they are a mutually exclusive set i.e. technically minded people can't have these issues as well, and if they do they can't speak of anything but those?

I have a great friend dying of cancer. They might have a year or two if they're lucky (they've had surgery and radio/chemotherapies already), and the last few months won't feel like luck at all. Does that mean I/she should curl up in a ball and not discuss anything else?

That's bizarre.....

Nisgeis · 01-31-10, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Méo

What I meant is that there is a lot of people got more important problems (family problems, love problems, money problems, alcohol problems and so on...) and they would find it ludicrious that I worry so much for this DRM thing... you know!

You know, rather than posting to COMPLAIN about all the people who are complaining about DRM, you should, according to your own motivation, be posting to say how glad you are that no one had any serious troubles, that were worse than DRM. Although, can't people have a serious personal problem AND an issue with DRM at the same time? Us humans are complex you know. I've never been a fan of the old 'Well at least you aren't <INSERT AFFLICATION OR CATASTROPHE HERE> argument for saying something isn't important. I mean, I could just say to you that if you weren't happy that people were complaining about DRM, you could instead of posting complaints about it, you could instead just consider how lucky you were to not be a blind deaf dumb giraffe named Sebastian, who was moments away from execution for a crime that you did not commit in a country where there was no possible chance of commuting your sentence to life. Becasue that would suck worse. You know it would. I mean I know you aren't a deaf dumb and blind giraffe, but you know... just imagine if you were. So think yourself lucky and don't complain about people complaining as if they have nothing worse to complain about, because that's good Sebastian!

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Originally Posted by Méo

Naive, Hmmm... people here are pretty quick on class action, don't you remember.

No, I don't, refresh my memory please Sebastian?

Brag · 01-31-10, 06:28 PM

I have alcohol problems, family problems, social problems, financial problems, internal problems and some more. I prefer discussing game problems to forget my listed above problems

Steeltrap · 01-31-10, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brag

I have alcohol problems, family problems, social problems, financial problems, internal problems and some more. I prefer discussing game problems to forget my listed above problems

That's pretty much what I was getting at, just not with the humour....

ME$$ENGER · 01-31-10, 06:31 PM

Maybe we should just stick to talking about our personal issues here and put our complaints in PS lest some people think we have nothing better to do.

PS: DRM sucks.

Méo · 01-31-10, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ME$$ENGER

Well, put it this way. Suppose you buy a car and the dealer installs a device on the car that connects to some server every single time you want to start the engine to prevent the car being started by thieves. It's not taking your personal data, either. Would you agree to it?

Dude, driving a car and be able to reach certain places (your home, the hospital, etc.) is LOT MORE important than playing a game, of course it would be unacceptable, the consequences could be much more dramatic!

ME$$ENGER · 01-31-10, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Méo

Dude, driving a car and be able to reach certain places (your home, the hospital, etc.) is LOT MORE important than playing a game, of course it would be unacceptable, the consequences could be much more dramatic!

Point is not if playing games is more important than driving a car. Point is it's a bad design. Agreed?

HundertzehnGustav · 01-31-10, 06:45 PM

...i have not had sex for 2 months now...

have not had a GF for an entire year...

But i love DRM.

cause DRM.... SUCKS!

Steeltrap · 01-31-10, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

...i have not had sex for 2 months now...

have not had a GF for an entire year...

But i love DRM.

cause DRM.... SUCKS!

Post of the week!!

Méo · 01-31-10, 06:49 PM

@Messenger

Of course I Agree!

What I'm trying to say is that all the DRM drama seems to take too much magnitude, IMO. Espacially when someone link this with his personal life by saying ''these dark times''.

Dark times for simulation or game

But not dark times in my personal life!

Méo · 01-31-10, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

...i have not had sex for 2 months now...

have not had a GF for an entire year...

But i love DRM.

cause DRM.... SUCKS!

HundertzehnGustav · 01-31-10, 06:53 PM

Meo... what about "dark times for the entire Gaming industry" or
"dark times for honest customers"

what about "dark times for privacy"?
what about "big brother is watching you"?

These are issues not directly connected to Digital Rights Management, yet they are important in a technologically advanced civilization... because the subject is vast and universal in our "small" world.

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HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	...i have not had sex for 2 months now... have not had a GF for an entire year... But i love DRM. cause DRM.... SUCKS! __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

01-31-10, 06:53 PM	#30
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Meo... what about "dark times for the entire Gaming industry" or "dark times for honest customers" what about "dark times for privacy"? what about "big brother is watching you"? These are issues not directly connected to Digital Rights Management, yet they are important in a technologically advanced civilization... because the subject is vast and universal in our "small" world. __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

01-31-10, 06:31 PM	#23
ME$$ENGER Watch Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 27 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Maybe we should just stick to talking about our personal issues here and put our complaints in PS lest some people think we have nothing better to do. PS: DRM sucks.

01-31-10, 06:49 PM	#28
Méo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Quebec City Posts: 1,153 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	@Messenger Of course I Agree! What I'm trying to say is that all the DRM drama seems to take too much magnitude, IMO. Espacially when someone link this with his personal life by saying ''these dark times''. Dark times for simulation or game But not dark times in my personal life!