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Méo 01-31-10 05:49 PM

Seriously, would you dare...
 
Seriously, would you dare to speak about DRM (and how much it's a drama for you) in plublic, I mean... with your girlfriend, your friends, your teammate at work, your family, etc.


No offence to the one who posted that, but when I saw a thread that somewhat linked a personal news with ''these dark times'' it made think...:hmmm:

Seems to me that a lot of people here take all this too seriously.

...at my work, just before the new year's eve, someone committed suicide (his wife left him a month ago, but he wasn't a friend of mine).

So if I told guys at work that I'm currently having ''dark times'' and explaining them the DRM thing, THEY WOULD LAUGH AT ME BIG TIME (...and No, they aren't currently laughing at me).


Anyway, the question remains, would you dare to speak (not to write here) about DRM drama in public? ;)

IanC 01-31-10 05:54 PM

Meh, it is what it is. A pain in the butt. I would only talk about it if a bud was also a gamer.

Nisgeis 01-31-10 05:55 PM

Er... DARE? What?! How is speaking in public different to writing in public? Would I talk to a friend at work about how Ubisoft are treating their paying customer like criminals, yes, but only with someone else who was also interested in gaming. Everyone else would be bored to tears.

Brag 01-31-10 05:56 PM

I would, the subject would not be games, but the intrusion of big business into your personal life.:salute:

IanC 01-31-10 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brag (Post 1254168)
I would, the subject would not be games, but the intrusion of big business into your personal life.:salute:

:hmmm:

Rosencrantz 01-31-10 05:58 PM

Well, to be honest, I have already told my girl that this forum just did go mad couple days ago. And as I have dealt with corpses almost every day last 17 years, I'm pretty sure she found out news from the forum both funny and more entertaining than if I just told her something else about my day...

And this wasn't a joke. Death losts its drama after it becomes to your everyday life.


-RC-

HundertzehnGustav 01-31-10 05:58 PM

No problem with that. I am surrounded by Gamers, from 20 to 65 all the time. We are discussing Games often, but i am an outsider - the others prefer MMORPG,s FPS or Role playing. I am for s litle strategy and Sims.
The DRM issues are to us not only about games, it is to us about control and dependancy. The future of mankind and such.

Nisgeis 01-31-10 06:01 PM

What the hell is this? You do know that the games industry is larger than the film and music industry combined don't you? It's not like gamers are weirdos who live in their mum's basement. What's with all the embarrasment about playing and discussing games?

DaveU186 01-31-10 06:02 PM

Who dares wins.

:rock:

ME$$ENGER 01-31-10 06:03 PM

Well, that's like saying talking about Windows activation in public is somehow embarrasing. It's not and people do that all the time. The point right now is not that silent hunter 5 is a game in a niche genre we happen to like. The point is it's a software bundled with something intrusive and unnecessary for the customers and we as the end users do not like it.

Steeltrap 01-31-10 06:04 PM

I went to a friend's place on Saturday night. He, his flatmate and I went to school together, so we've known each other 30 years.

Another friend came over, too.

One of them is a very skilled tech/programmer. We spoke about DRM, and Ubi's intended version for SH5.

I also showed them the "Das DRM" clips on YouTube (which they thought were hilarious).

Now the 4 of us would represent at least 120 years of accumulated boardgame, computer game and RPG experience. We all have Steam installed on our PCs/Laptops, so we're not against online authentication in itself.

We all think Ubi's DRM, without an off-line facility, is assinine for a single player game.

Maybe that's not exactly public, but I'm certainly happy to discuss it when the conversation suits. I have, for example, discussed it with some work colleagues; those who are technically minded and often gamers (both PC and console).

Their views? Ubisoft has lost the plot.

Méo 01-31-10 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brag (Post 1254168)
but the intrusion of big business into your personal life.:salute:

But they can't take personal data from your computer, there is international law(s) that protect private life.

Should they cross that line, they would suffer severe consequences.

shmall 01-31-10 06:10 PM

I would talk about it to a fellow gamer/hobby follower, and have :)
I only talk about my hobby (simming and RC helicopters/planes) to other simmers and RC flyers.....

why the hell would I bother people that have NO interest in my hobby? thats whay we all talk about it on here...yes?


Simon

Nisgeis 01-31-10 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Méo (Post 1254183)
But they can't take personal data from your computer, there is international law(s) that protect private life.

Should they cross that line, they would suffer severe consequences.

Oh come on, that's happened before where other companies have transferred data that they had no right to. Don't be so naive as to think that just because they shouldn't, they won't, or because it's not legal they won't. Just because they shouldn't doesn't mean they can't. Also, how about answering some of the previously posed questions in the thread, or are you going to cherry pick your responses in a Ubi-esque manner in this thread?

Méo 01-31-10 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeltrap (Post 1254179)
Maybe that's not exactly public, but I'm certainly happy to discuss it when the conversation suits. I have, for example, discussed it with some work colleagues; those who are technically minded and often gamers (both PC and console).

Their views? Ubisoft has lost the plot.

Yeah it's because your colleagues are technically minded.

What I meant is that there is a lot of people got more important problems (family problems, love problems, money problems, alcohol problems and so on...) and they would find it ludicrious that I worry so much for this DRM thing... you know!


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