T34 vs Tiger- Kursk 1943 coming soon!

[LcSummers]

Hi ZW,

Quote:I am looking at the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Quad Core 3.4 Ghz :O:
with 64bit Win7 and 4gigs Ram




ZW this is what i have, these are my pc specs:

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Quad Core 3.4 Ghz
GTX 295
4GB Ram
Win 7 32 Bit

LC


PS: and it runs only with 1.2-3.4 fps

NO ZW, CPU speed doesnt help here because TvT is written for single cpu. From the beginnig i had AMD Phenom II X4 965 Quad Core 3.4 Ghz and made my beta tests with it

[ZeeWolf]

Hi ZW,

Quote:I am looking at the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Quad Core 3.4 Ghz :O:
with 64bit Win7 and 4gigs Ram




ZW this is what i have, these are my pc specs:

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Quad Core 3.4 Ghz
GTX 295
4GB Ram
Win 7 32 Bit

LC


PS: and it runs only with 1.2-3.4 fps

NO ZW, CPU speed doesnt help here because TvT is written for single cpu. From the beginnig i had AMD Phenom II X4 965 Quad Core 3.4 Ghz and made my beta tests with it



Oh s***! :oops:

Well I had hope that AMD would help. But the certainty of the ability to
use only a single CPU - am not sure on that yet. With Windows 2000 pro
there was a boost with prioaff.exe . But there is something that I can say
for certain and that is that 25% of the drag is the collision code. I will
have to really examine this area for a solution.
Meanwhile my efforts will be re-focused on missions and battle scenarios
that will run well on the majority of PCs. However make no mistake about it
my work will continue to fulfill my vision for this Sim.

Thanks LC

ZW

[LcSummers]

Hi Morty

Hi Lc
I think what you need is a 'Gulyasleves' cooled CPU but strain out all the particles first! :har:


First of all yes with wine second its very hot. We have a kind of hot "chili" so i´ ll give you some of it and not only you but your tank and Notebook are getting very hot:D

LC

[LcSummers]

Oh s***! :oops:

Well I had hope that AMD would help. But the certainty of the ability to
use only a single CPU - am not sure on that yet. With Windows 2000 pro
there was a boost with prioaff.exe . But there is something that I can say
for certain and that is that 25% of the drag is the collision code. I will
have to really examine this area for a solution.
Meanwhile my efforts will be re-focused on missions and battle scenarios
that will run well on the majority of PCs. However make no mistake about it
my work will continue to fulfill my vision for this Sim.

Thanks LC

ZW


Never mind ZW but i wish you luck (for us too). Hopefully you can solve the collision drag but i am very confident that your new missions will be a hell of fight.

Over and out

LC :salute:

[frinik]

Zee I think CPU alone is not the solution; a very strong GPU is required( minimum 1 gig dedicated and 1.5 to 1.8 even better) and available RAM is also important as it plays a role in how fast a pc works .Minimum 4 to 8 or more.Your huge maps may be part of the reason.I play the original TvsT with minimum 18 to 20 but with your missions 1 and 6 they drop to 8 to 14 and even lower with Kursk light mission 1 (4.5 to 5.8).It;s got to do with coding and the size of your maps.You may have to scale them down may be by half and see what happens.:hmmm:

JHS has a good processor but his GC is only 512 mg (ATI X1800)if I am correct this explains why his fps are so low

Just a thought....:salute:

[morttheslayer]

Frinic & Zee, most of us have fairly strong specs - not top of the pops but no slouches either.

I wholeheartedly agree with Frinic.
I came to the conclusion (monitoring my CPU and GPU) that it's a combination of Graphics and CPU mainly. My graphics are run at 1024x768 not the screen native Resolution but the NVid 9800GTX+ seems to give best results at this with TvsT. There are some strange anomolies in performance like FPS goes up a lot when using F5 Gunners or Commanders views until you traverse; and in some areas it's OK; and in others the screen tears slightly, and sometimes the screen will freeze (slightly/momentarily) and FPS drop dramatically, and you can be stationary when this happens!

PC Specs CPU Core 2 Duo E8500 (2x3.16GHz) 1333 M/Board Asus P5QC Skt775
Graphics Ge Force 9800GTX+ 512mb o/b mem RAM 4 Mb Corsair DDR3 1600Mhz
HDD Seagate 500Gb SATA2 7200rpm Audio Creative X-Fi Xtreme Audio7.1
OS XP Home SP3 Task Manager- 18 Apps running (incl TvsT) no overclocks

When I've flashed up Task Manager the core/s run about 53% so don't look like the're sweating!
I always felt a better GPU with at least 1Gb of quality onboard RAM (like DDR5) and a slightly quicker "screen monitor" response would lift my hardware performance up considerably. Also a sound card with some onboard processing RAM might help. Love to try and report all this theory but I'm in "saving up" mode at present :hmmm:

I honestly think Zee you've got your work cut out with this programme, I mean little things like your tank is ascending a hill - its sloping to the left
so you need constant/periodic attention to steering cos you'll steer following the lie of the land if you don't - like real life!! Now that's pretty wonderful but it must be hitting your resources (RAM, CPU whatever?).
I think you can only do the best you can and get a balance.

Has anyone noticed BTW when your tank hits a tree you sometimes stop and/or get the train on rails effect, but the other tanks seem to just steamroller through with no ill effects (Wolfgangs tree removal service someone called it :haha:). Maybe this effect if applied to all tanks would seize it all up on CPU oveload!! I don't know (there again there's a lot I don't know according to Mrs Panzer Commander).

I've solved nothing as usual!! "A problem shared is a problem Doubled" proven once again eh!!
All the Best - Mort :salute:

[frinik]

Re " Has anyone noticed BTW when your tank hits a tree you sometimes stop and/or get the train on rails effect, but the other tanks seem to just steamroller through with no ill effects (Wolfgangs tree removal service someone called it :haha:). Maybe this effect if applied to all tanks would seize it all up on CPU oveload!! I don't know (there again there's a lot I don't know according to Mrs Panzer Commander).

Morty, I have been grumping about that same issue ever since I bought TvsT it seems like even a shrub can stop your Tiger dead in it's tracks!I already mentioned that problem to Zee as part of the things that need to be fixed but only once and after the important stuff has been addressed and taken care of. Meanwhile, I am considering renaming the game Tiger versus Tree 34?:rotfl2:

Cheers

[ZeeWolf]

Hi Guys,

I have tell you that this new German mission 3 is going to be ruff!
I figured I would re-work it a little and add a few new tweaked files to the
common folder along with the new German mission 4. Oh, and a little tweak
to the tree files :haha:
I have added a new Tiger Unit script to prepare for the new Tiger model I
am working on too. This way you can choose which Tiger to command, the Stock or the New.:know:
This method of adding another playerunit script will make the new model
easier to adopt in the game as well as not requiring all the mission content scripts to be edited(less chance of screw-ups).:up:

Well it's that time again here at the TreeWolf den.:rotfl2:
Cheers

ZW :yawn:

[LcSummers]

Quote:I have tell you that this new German mission 3 is going to be ruff!
I figured I would re-work it a little and add a few new tweaked files to the
common folder along with the new German mission 4. Oh, and a little tweak
to the tree files :haha:
I have added a new Tiger Unit script to prepare for the new Tiger model I
am working on too. This way you can choose which Tiger to command, the Stock or the New.:know:
This method of adding another playerunit script will make the new model
easier to adopt in the game as well as not requiring all the mission content scripts to be edited(less chance of screw-ups).:up:


Hi ZW and members


These are very good news. Sure ZW i will try your new Tiger I no doubt about it. I know it is or will be much better than the old one.:up:
Are my men visible inside tank? Or is it to early to implement them because of low fps?

I realized this tree effect too with my tank against a tree. Now with trees tweaked i will be a perfect gardner with my Tiger I.:haha:

Quote: less chance of screw-ups

Wow!! lets see it. Less screw ups will mean more missions to concentrate on. :yeah:

Thank you ZW and dont hurry. We all know your efforts.

Eile mit Weile

LC :shucks:

[frinik]

Zee what's special about the new Tiger model? Is it one of the latest versions of the Ausf.H?I know some versions carried up to 120 shells instead of the usual 92.

Zee; could you perhaps test my idea of shrinking the size of your mission area may be by half( 5 sq. km instead of 11) to see if it makes a significant difference in the fps count?I must say that I don't find the in game maps very useful.The briefing maps at at the beginning of a selected mission before you click on start are better.The problem with the in game ones is that your map size are so huge and the area we actually use during a given mission so small by comparison that it' s really difficult to track where we are and where the friendlies and enemies are.It's my own opinion and others may disagree.

Anyway lots of good stuff coming up our way :O:thanks to you.Mr Wolfman.

Lc stop thinking about the trees you're going to miss the improvements to the game again!!!! Ahhhh when it's not the Panzerinen it's the trees!!!!:D

Cheers

[LcSummers]

Hello Mr von Frinic!

Quote: Zee; could you perhaps test my idea of shrinking the size of your mission area may be by half( 5 sq. km instead of 11) to see if it makes a significant difference in the fps count?I must say that I don't find the in game maps very useful.The briefing maps at at the beginning of a selected mission before you click on start are better.The problem with the in game ones is that your map size are so huge and the area we actually use during a given mission so small by comparison that it' s really difficult to track where we are and where the friendlies and enemies are.It's my own opinion and others may disagree.

I must agree 100% with you frinic. I thought about it but didnt mentioned, thought i would be the only one.:hmmm:
The area is too huge, this eats to much resources, fps. With scaling the map down, i am really sure to increase performance. This can lead to that way, that ZW does not have to cancel 100 of tanks and artillery units.

As a Beta tester this is my opinion, itmay be a soloution wich may be preferred or not.:hmmm:


Lc stop thinking about the trees you're going to miss the improvements to the game again!!!! Ahhhh when it's not the Panzerinen it's the trees!!!!:D

Frinic, you didnt realised that i am no more thinking about these trees, i am focused on that new Tiger model with the new antenna.:haha:

So Herr frinic thought about our logo but i have found one wich is easier to install

:rotfl2: hey, its pink too

Cheers


LC

[frinik]

Lc you´re thinking about the new Tiger ????:hmmm:I´ll have to check it, I suspect the mannschaft must be all female.....

Well Lc pleased that we are thinking along the same lines( I am talking about the map size not the female crews:D).I also suspect that the fact that the original TvsT missions are played on fairly small maps(4 sq km???) compared to Zee´s which are 4 to 6 times bigger has to have a definite impact on the fpsd.Besides huge maps are nice but since we only use but a fraction of them they can be split into different zones where different , sequnetial missions could take place thus they would not be wasted.What do you think Zee????

[morttheslayer]

Hi Zee like the sound of mission 3

I thought about what Frinic and Lc proposed, and if it were not for the performance issues I found in the re-worked missions (i.e. NOT Kursk) I would tend to agree.

But where there are lots of units and heavy action I found (note the first german mission - Tigers Shake Kurtinki patched to Pre Kursk Alpha) the FPS goes way down in the first encounter. So the point I make is some of these have smaller maps and maybe not the amount of scale of ops found in the Kursk mission but FPS issues are still present.

This compares to Kurskv.6 (light PC loading) where there are lots of units both friendly and enemy and heavy action AND a big map.

I think downsizing the map to say the size of german mission 1 (Tigers Shake K) MAY improve the FPS but only by say 1FPS.

Only my opinion and I may be way off, but for most PCs I think gain may be minimal.

Anyway I'd love to be wrong (Mrs Panzer Commander always says I am as you're all probably well aware).

Hanging in there and hope to be wrong!!

All the best - Mort :salute:

[ZeeWolf]

Hi Zee like the sound of mission 3

I thought about what Frinic and Lc proposed, and if it were not for the performance issues I found in the re-worked missions (i.e. NOT Kursk) I would tend to agree.

But where there are lots of units and heavy action I found (note the first german mission - Tigers Shake Kurtinki patched to Pre Kursk Alpha) the FPS goes way down in the first encounter. So the point I make is some of these have smaller maps and maybe not the amount of scale of ops found in the Kursk mission but FPS issues are still present.

This compares to Kurskv.6 (light PC loading) where there are lots of units both friendly and enemy and heavy action AND a big map.

I think downsizing the map to say the size of german mission 1 (Tigers Shake K) MAY improve the FPS but only by say 1FPS.

Only my opinion and I may be way off, but for most PCs I think gain may be minimal.

Anyway I'd love to be wrong (Mrs Panzer Commander always says I am as you're all probably well aware).

Hanging in there and hope to be wrong!!

All the best - Mort :salute:

Hello Kameraden,

frinik, LC and Mort of course your interest in finding solutions is very helpful.
Although the logic is good :know: concerning the large maps - but when applied
the results are not in agreement with that logic. :o
So, Mort is correct, the FPS is not dramatic enough to warrant a change
in map size. There is a definite combination of events that can only be
accessed through code. Even as far as we have come there is still allot
more to learn and discover in the ways to improve performance.
Believe this or not: I have yet to understand a majority of TvsT's code.
There still has been no work done in some important areas of this sim .
Areas that demand time and experimentation. One for example is the TIME
change capability i.e. 2x 4x 8x normal speed. This area [TIME] will unlock
the ability to better understand fps issue.
It has been 10 months since the ability to import the first working
fully animated tank (KV-85) in the game. When viewed from the point of
where we're at now I have to say the work on the FPS issue has just began.
It was the first part of April when this issue really became an obstacle to
progress. Therefore became a real target for my full attention.
This challenge should not be viewed as anymore difficult then the other
break through discoveries made to date.

So Kameraden, yes my work is cut out for me and I say Vorwärts! :up:

ZW :salute:

[LcSummers]

QUOTE

Believe this or not: I have yet to understand a majority of TvsT's code.
There still has been no work done in some important areas of this sim .
Areas that demand time and experimentation. One for example is the TIME
change capability i.e. 2x 4x 8x normal speed. This area [TIME] will unlock
the ability to better understand fps issue.
It has been 10 months since the ability to import the first working
fully animated tank (KV-85) in the game. When viewed from the point of where we're at now I have to say the work on the FPS issue has just began.
It was the first part of April when this issue really became an obstacle to
progress. Therefore became a real target for my full attention.
This challenge should not be viewed as anymore difficult then the other break through discoveries made to date.

Hi Panzermänner,

ZW i am very pleased of your kindness and understanding concerning us members,our suggestions and TvTs code. This makes teamwork much easier. I really appreciate this. Thank you. :up:
One thing you really have to know is that i am not a programmer, i do not understand (in this case) TvTs code. So this can lead to unserious, wrong (or the other way around) suggestions but we all are trying the best. It is right when you see a way were i am impossible. Therefore correcting me in any way is always welcome.

The other thing what i read in your answer is that you are really convinced to solve problems with low fps. So there is a way to master it but this takes time as you are at the beginng to understand the code. :yeah:

See you all later or on weekend


LC

[frinik]

:sunny:Lc don't be harsh on yourself, Herrn PanzerKommandant :yeah:.There's no such things as silly, ridiculous or wrong ideas on this forum( Hem :yawn:...).No seriously sometimes brainstorming, coming up with ideas as farfetched or unpractical as they may look can bring about positive change/solutions. I think Zee would rather have an active and interested audience/ membership of people who want to help, as mistaken we may be at times, than a group of amorphic, uniterested people who will not give him the time of day unless asked for:D.

So let's keep bringing suggestions with the only proviso of course that the suggestions have not already been proposed and discarded before.

Anyway as in anything a third party opinion is always useful because soemtimes we are so engrossed in what we do that we don't see the obvious.I am sure Zee agrees with me !

Regards to All!

Frinik

[LcSummers]

:sunny:Lc don't be harsh on yourself, Herrn PanzerKommandant :yeah:.There's no such things as silly, ridiculous or wrong ideas on this forum( Hem :yawn:...).No seriously sometimes brainstorming, coming up with ideas as farfetched or unpractical as they may look can bring about positive change/solutions. I think Zee would rather have an active and interested audience/ membership of people who want to help, as mistaken we may be at times, than a group of amorphic, uniterested people who will not give him the time of day unless asked for:D.

So let's keep bringing suggestions with the only proviso of course that the suggestions have not already been proposed and discarded before.

Anyway as in anything a third party opinion is always useful because soemtimes we are so engrossed in what we do that we don't see the obvious.I am sure Zee agrees with me !

Regards to All!

Frinik


Hi frinic,

thank you for "your kind support" but sometimes this is reality :haha:.

All right, i know that brainstorming can lead to differtent ways :hmmm: maybe silly or not. Hopefully this low fps will be bugged out as soon as possible. Nothing is better to see my Tigers running , not retreating.
Lets get on with this great teamwork.

Till later


LC


PS: Can anyone say me if the Jagtiger (not Command Jagdtiger) had an antenna on the rear right side?

[morttheslayer]

ZeeWolf you've dragged this sim up and given us all a massive amount of hope. Even with FPS issues we can see the potential.

If you could cover everything with snow and take all the leaves off the trees you could get another 8FPS I reckon :har:
Not for a summer campaign I might add!!

Seriously - I don't think any of us expected you to rewrite the whole programme.


BTW - I found a bug?? anomoly anyway,
Perhaps Frinic will kindly look out for it if he gets time, to confirm what I and Lc have found.
I call it "Tigers in the sky"! The installation of Kurskv.6 light affected me by altering the behaviour of the second Tiger in Two Russian missions Simaskovo Recon and Tiger Trap, also Second German mission attack on Beskudnikovo (spelling??).

The Pre kursk Alpha installation was fine.

In these Kursk v.6 (light) 3 missions the second Tiger appears to be elevated (no ground detail underneath) and looks suspended. This checks out at mission end when you use the tab key to check other units. In Tiger Trap I got "shot" early (deliberately) then used the tab to check the German column that hadn't departed/activated yet. The rear Tiger appeared some 8 metres in the air!
this apparent elevation worstens if the mission progresses.
In the second German mission the second Tiger starts out OK but ends up elevated.
Lc has confirmed that he has the same result as me with the Russian Tiger Trap mission, and is checking others.

I'm sure this can be cured if a common fault - but thought I would point it out to see if anyone else has this problem?

Zee I don't expect you to drop everything because this has not been definately confirmed yet so please don't. You have enough to do.
It just may be a couple of us with this problem - possibly needs re-installing?? Would really appreciate anyone else's comment on this particular anomoly to compare. Anyway definately more checking required here.

All the Best - Mort:salute:

[ZeeWolf]

ZeeWolf you've dragged this sim up and given us all a massive amount of hope. Even with FPS issues we can see the potential.

If you could cover everything with snow and take all the leaves off the trees you could get another 8FPS I reckon :har:
Not for a summer campaign I might add!!

Seriously - I don't think any of us expected you to rewrite the whole programme.


BTW - I found a bug?? anomoly anyway,
Perhaps Frinic will kindly look out for it if he gets time, to confirm what I and Lc have found.
I call it "Tigers in the sky"! The installation of Kurskv.6 light affected me by altering the behaviour of the second Tiger in Two Russian missions Simaskovo Recon and Tiger Trap, also Second German mission attack on Beskudnikovo (spelling??).

The Pre kursk Alpha installation was fine.

In these Kursk v.6 (light) 3 missions the second Tiger appears to be elevated (no ground detail underneath) and looks suspended. This checks out at mission end when you use the tab key to check other units. In Tiger Trap I got "shot" early (deliberately) then used the tab to check the German column that hadn't departed/activated yet. The rear Tiger appeared some 8 metres in the air!
this apparent elevation worstens if the mission progresses.
In the second German mission the second Tiger starts out OK but ends up elevated.
Lc has confirmed that he has the same result as me with the Russian Tiger Trap mission, and is checking others.

I'm sure this can be cured if a common fault - but thought I would point it out to see if anyone else has this problem?

Zee I don't expect you to drop everything because this has not been definately confirmed yet so please don't. You have enough to do.
It just may be a couple of us with this problem - possibly needs re-installing?? Would really appreciate anyone else's comment on this particular anomoly to compare. Anyway definately more checking required here.

All the Best - Mort:salute:

No Mort it has been confirmed well enough. :yep: I just finished an e-mail concerning this same issue in the stock German mission 2. So I will
definitely get it sorted out. Meanwhile I just went through hell yesterday
and finally figured out my problem this morning with a Ram upgrade on
this new Asus P5Q Pro Turbo MoBo. :damn:My Ram modules are the wrong
model for a 4Gig upgrade. Oh well so much for that. :shifty:

Anyway the German Mission 3 and 4 release would be great place to put the Flying Tiger fix in. And at this point who knows what else I could fit
in this release too. :salute:

Vorwärts Kameraden!

ZW

[Lazarus905]

Wait, I need to pay for your mod?

[ZeeWolf]

I found it mort!
The issue was the change to the "DefaultSurfaceControl" in the Tiger tanks
Unit file "TankPzVIAusfEUnit.script" .
During the testing for the swamp effect I changed Default Surface Control
from "PutonGroundLandingJoints" to "None".

The stock missions use the same Tiger script for player and AI
so that would explain why (in stock missions) the AI Tiger looked like it was
above ground. It simply stayed at the same height from it's start location.

The goal is to make AI units strictly AI and not both AI and Player controlled.
This may not make sense now but when I start work on the Multi-Player ability it will.

ZW:salute:

[ZeeWolf]

Wait, I need to pay for your mod?

No, only if you want the Mod! :yep:

[Lazarus905]

Yeeeah,, thats not going to happen. 60$ for a mod? You have to be out of your mind.

[frinik]

Lazarus,you don´t want to pay for the mod you´re perfectly entitled to but please don´t bitch on the forum and tell people they´re out of their mind for asking you to pay for their work.You want freebies then get Panzer Elite, plenty of free mods ....:03:

Zee ,Morty ,I have had the same experience with flying Tigers( like commandant Chennault???)but only with Kursk mission 1.At one pòint some of the Tigers ahead of me in the mad race to the Sov posiitons would start flyinh up in the air as if tossed and then simply fall back to the ground.I suspect it´s low fps issue which creates "mirages:D".On the other hand I haven´t replayed Beskudnikovo( the stock mission bores me totally)but I have replayed Zee´s Tigers Shake Kurtenki, Hill 500, Tigers Breakout and Defending Simshkovo without any of the flying Tiger effect.But for these missions my fps are from 8.8 to 22.

Cheers Kameraden:salute:

[ZeeWolf]

Yeeeah,, thats not going to happen. 60$ for a mod? You have to be out of your mind.

Really? It sounds to me your just trying to start trouble. And it is also apparent that you know very little or nothing about this project.
But let me be clear, nobody is requiring to do anything except obeying the rules of this forum. If starting trouble is your intent I have a problem with that.

[LcSummers]

Really? It sounds to me your just trying to start trouble. And it is also apparent that you know very little or nothing about this project.
But let me be clear, nobody is requiring to do anything except obeying the rules of this forum. If starting trouble is your intent I have a problem with that.


Hi Lazarus905,


before mentioning things like that read the whole blog. You have a lot to read. ZW never said or wrote that his mod is obligatory and it is not only a MOD as you think, read everything. I know everybody has the right to say his arguments but before i will do this i have to have proofs for such statements but would never title somebody with that. You have the chance to contact ZW and questioning himself.
ZW and we members are at the beginning of a new project made by ZW himself. Without him BELIEVE me TvT would be death and you have spend money for nothing. This might be out of mind (its my opinion). And the most important thing is if you sell something i do not think you would comp something when it is your own hard made product.

Secondly after the release of TvT have you seen support? I didnt think so. Every little bug we members or ZW finds, he is right here to help us anytime. No comment from him , he is doing it to make the best sim out of TvT. HE IS A ONE MAN COMPANY.

Cheers


LC

[LcSummers]

Hi ZW and all foundation members,


have only a question, do we have some news or how is it going on? Dont want to sit around. Something to dO?:hmmm:


LC

[ZeeWolf]

There is always something to do when taking on the whole Red Army :yep:
Any mission ideas?

ZW

[frinik]

Zee we would love to help you with ideas for new missions but a few questions beforehand,

What about redoing the existing Soviet missions?

What about the other 3 German missions that haven't been reworked mission 2, 4 and 5.

Would it not mean less work to rework existing misisons rather than do new ones right away?Would it be possible to run one into a night mission with flares etc?

Also without seeing your Kursk maps it might be difficult for us to suggest new missions.

Cheers

[morttheslayer]

Zee great you spotted the flying tigers and proposed a fix. :up:

I've just had some issues with a new laptop (i use my laptop to get on the internet and we're not friends yet :damn:. I think I've cracked the antivirus conflicts (after 2 re-installs!!) so I sympathise with your MoBo RAM problem. But here I am (despite my efforts not because of them BTW :haha:)

I would agree with Frinic about reworked missions even a few tweaks and corrections!!

For a new mission suggestion I read about Major Sauvant's Tigers taking the village of Butyrki - savage Tiger action.
or
the battle for Cherkasskoye where the Soviets had a triple trench line, Grossdeutschland Tiger Company supported by MkIV & MkIII Panthers and assault guns effected a breach and were in front of the village at 09.15. They started at 05.00 from near a village called Butovo (5 July 1943). Just some ideas!

By the way Lazarus is fully entitled to be " in his mind" just as we all are happy to be "out of ours" :88) so if we don't mind he doesn't matter.

All the Best - Mort

PS Laazarus check all posts and screen shots you're getting a "new" game!

[ZeeWolf]

Zee great you spotted the flying tigers and proposed a fix. :up:

I've just had some issues with a new laptop (i use my laptop to get on the internet and we're not friends yet :damn:. I think I've cracked the antivirus conflicts (after 2 re-installs!!) so I sympathise with your MoBo RAM problem. But here I am (despite my efforts not because of them BTW :haha:)

I would agree with Frinic about reworked missions even a few tweaks and corrections!!

For a new mission suggestion I read about Major Sauvant's Tigers taking the village of Butyrki - savage Tiger action.
or
the battle for Cherkasskoye where the Soviets had a triple trench line, Grossdeutschland Tiger Company supported by MkIV & MkIII Panthers and assault guns effected a breach and were in front of the village at 09.15. They started at 05.00 from near a village called Butovo (5 July 1943). Just some ideas!

By the way Lazarus is fully entitled to be " in his mind" just as we all are happy to be "out of ours" :88) so if we don't mind he doesn't matter.

All the Best - Mort

PS Lazarus check all posts and screen shots you're getting a "new" game!

You and frinik are right I want to keep things in order and of course that means working smart.
the mission ideas were more for an interesting discussion not for something to start on new on my part.
That would be a great topic for a new thread mort. Guys could tell war stories that inspire
interest and at the same time educate us on some great battles for future
scenarios. :up:
The battle for Cherkasskoye for instance was one I considered before I
chose the LSSAH 13th Panzer Regiment. Cherkasskoye - had it all man the
elite GrossDeutschland GrnDiv, Tigers and Panthers SturmUnits Panzer II- IVs .
A huge number of German armor concentrated on Cherkasskoye.
And of course I would love doing it too if it were not for the FPS issues.
But Major Sauvant's Tigers taking the village of Butyrki - savage
Tiger action may be something very interesting Morti :yep:

Cheers

ZW

PS: Lazarus in the bible was raised from the dead - kinda like TvsT :D

[woofiedog]

First I'd like to say... there is a extreme amount of work that made up this update and it shows! Wicked :D

One of my few problems is that I keep getting stuck in the mud it seems when I'm tring to keep my tank driving straight or is this just my driving? :cry:

I have an older rig with a AMD 57 FX cpu and 7800 graphic cards in SLI and 3gigs of ram... and so far I'm keeping up well with the game frame rate. It's been about 4-6 so far during game play and that is with the settings up in high and using 1400/900 resolution. One thing I did tried out was a program called Game Booster... saw it posted at one of the forums and gave it a try. Game play seems a bit smoother now and I got a 1-2 frame rate increase going by Frap's.

So far have to say I'm impressed... just need a few more missions now for my eager crew! :yeah:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/T-34%20vs%20Tiger/SH_0002.jpg

[frinik]

Hi Woofie!Thanks for the interesting tip.

Could you give us more details about tthe Game Booster Programme?Where do we get it?How is ti installed? Is it specific to one game only c or does it apply to all the games you have installed on a desktop or laptop( I assume it works for laptops too?)

Cheers:up:

[woofiedog]

It's a very simple program that gives you a list of programs running on your computer and it lets you pick and shut down unnecessary programs... afterwards you can simply turn them back on with the same program. It also has a defrag opition that you can use to defrag the game files. You can select any game on your computer whether C file or external drive files. Not sure about a laptop... don't have one. LoL I installed it in my C files and as I stated it real easy to use and install.

Here is a link: http://game-booster.en.softonic.com/

A video clip of the program: http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-Use-Game-Booster-Software-134449046

[LcSummers]

Hi woofiedog


Quote:I have an older rig with a AMD 57 FX cpu and 7800 graphic cards in SLI and 3gigs of ram... and so far I'm keeping up well with the game frame rate. It's been about 4-6 so far during game play and that is with the settings up in high and using 1400/900 resolution. One thing I did tried out was a program called Game Booster... saw it posted at one of the forums and gave it a try. Game play seems a bit smoother now and I got a 1-2 frame rate increase going by Frap's.


We made some tests with Prioaff. With ZWs help we could start it and test it in the game. There was a blog were i wrote about my experiences. With that tool we also got 1.2 fps more but this didnt solve the problem with low fps. But as ZW mentioned this wil be buged out sooner or later. :up:


Cheers

LC

[LcSummers]

Hi ZW,

tested new GM3. Wow!!! Heavy artillery fps between high 14 and 22. Was just a short test, try to make it longer. (later) BUT COOOL, i mean HOOOT!!!!:yeah:

Lost nearly all my "houses" couldnt take a bath!:wah:

My tank is harder to steer. Is this what you wanted? Turns harder left or right.

Now you have your gardener!!!!!:yeah: No stalls for my tank when ramming trees!! Wunderbar.

The enemie AI which had to outflank the German forces will not! Intended? They stood there and didnt move until i arrived and knocked them out. May be the have to attack!!!:06:


Thanks alot much improvment.


LC

[Chucky]

I have used GameBooster in the past and was very happy with it.
I don't use it now I have a kick-ass PC,but it's worth a try if you are having speed/resource issues.

[ZeeWolf]

Hey Guys :DL

I found a program for all who have a 64bit system that I think you should
give it a try. It's called "4gb_patch.exe"

It patches the the way TvsT.exe handles RAM. I check it out with my Hex
editor and it dose allot of work on the *.exe plus it backs-up the original
file for you. And of course it is very easy to use.
Although I ran the patched file on my 32bit system (with no problems) it
is specifically designed for 64bit systems
The link:
http://www.tanksimzw.com/4gb_patch.zip

or go here:

http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php
(http://www.tanksimzw.com/4gb_patch.zip)
ZW

[frinik]

Hi Zee, could you specify what " It patches the the way TvsT.exe handles RAM" means exactly in concrete terms?:hmmm:

Thanks

[ZeeWolf]

Hi Zee, could you specify what " It patches the the way TvsT.exe handles RAM" means exactly in concrete terms?:hmmm:

Thanks

Hi frinik,
It would be much better to check-out this site for more accurate details

http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php

ATB:salute:

ZW

[ZeeWolf]

First I'd like to say... there is a extreme amount of work that made up this update and it shows! Wicked :D

One of my few problems is that I keep getting stuck in the mud it seems when I'm tring to keep my tank driving straight or is this just my driving? :cry:

I have an older rig with a AMD 57 FX cpu and 7800 graphic cards in SLI and 3gigs of ram... and so far I'm keeping up well with the game frame rate. It's been about 4-6 so far during game play and that is with the settings up in high and using 1400/900 resolution. One thing I did tried out was a program called Game Booster... saw it posted at one of the forums and gave it a try. Game play seems a bit smoother now and I got a 1-2 frame rate increase going by Frap's.

So far have to say I'm impressed... just need a few more missions now for my eager crew! :yeah:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/T-34%20vs%20Tiger/SH_0002.jpg

Thanks woofiedog
Haven't heard from you in awhile :DL
You'll like the new German mission 4 too for sure :up:

Vorwärts Kamerad!:salute:

ZW

[LcSummers]

[QUOTE=ZeeWolf;1388792]Hey Guys :DL

I found a program for all who have a 64bit system that I think you should
give it a try. It's called "4gb_patch.exe"

It patches the the way TvsT.exe handles RAM. I check it out with my Hex
editor and it dose allot of work on the *.exe plus it backs-up the original
file for you. And of course it is very easy to use.
Although I ran the patched file on my 32bit system (with no problems) it
is specifically designed for 64bit systems
The link:
http://www.tanksimzw.com/4gb_patch.zip

or go here:

Hi ZW,

you tested it on your 32 bit system. Can you say more about it? What changes have you found? I dont think it would improve my system cause my 32 bit system detects about 3.2 or 3.4 GiGs out of 4 GIGS of Ram.This is the 32 bit system limits.

Thanx alot, hoping you having no difficulties with GM4.

Cheers


LC

[Wilcke]

[QUOTE=ZeeWolf;1388792]Hey Guys :DL

I found a program for all who have a 64bit system that I think you should
give it a try. It's called "4gb_patch.exe"

It patches the the way TvsT.exe handles RAM. I check it out with my Hex
editor and it dose allot of work on the *.exe plus it backs-up the original
file for you. And of course it is very easy to use.
Although I ran the patched file on my 32bit system (with no problems) it
is specifically designed for 64bit systems
The link:
http://www.tanksimzw.com/4gb_patch.zip

or go here:

Hi ZW,

you tested it on your 32 bit system. Can you say more about it? What changes have you found? I dont think it would improve my system cause my 32 bit system detects about 3.2 or 3.4 GiGs out of 4 GIGS of Ram.This is the 32 bit system limits.

Thanx alot, hoping you having no difficulties with GM4.

Cheers


LC




Will definately give this a go. Win 7 Pro with 8gigs of ram.

[ZeeWolf]

The best thing to do LC and Wilcke is check out this site for more accurate
details

http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php

The benefits I received LC with my 32 bit OS was none. so anyone that has
an understanding Page File usage and a 64bit OS should give this a try
and let us know the results from the Task Manager.

Vorwärts! :salute:

ZW

PS:
"Thanx alot, hoping you having no difficulties with GM4." - LC

No problems LC I've been taking my time and plying it :up:
and still changing it around a bit as I play it. - Cheers ZW

[LcSummers]

[QUOTE=ZeeWolf;1390130]The best thing to do LC and Wilcke is check out this site for more accurate
details

http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php

The benefits I received LC with my 32 bit OS was none. so anyone that has
an understanding Page File usage and a 64bit OS should give this a try
and let us know the results from the Task Manager.



Hi my Panzerkameraden!

I wanted to point out that i have a Win 7 Pro 32 bit OS. So it is not relevant for me.

Thats all.


Thanks for your kind "support"



LC

[ZeeWolf]

[QUOTE=ZeeWolf;1390130]The best thing to do LC and Wilcke is check out this site for more accurate
details

http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php

The benefits I received LC with my 32 bit OS was none. so anyone that has
an understanding Page File usage and a 64bit OS should give this a try
and let us know the results from the Task Manager.



Hi my Panzerkameraden!

I wanted to point out that i have a Win 7 Pro 32 bit OS. So it is not relevant for me.

Thats all.


Thanks for your kind "support"



LC

Hallo Kamerad LC,
I e-mailed the fellow who wrote the 4gbit patch and asked him if he could
wright us a patch so tvt could access more than one CPU. :DL But he said
no. :cry:

Oh well, it didn't hurt to ask him , but his answer hurt.

ZW

[frinik]

Zee did he say no as in no way I am going to do that or no as in I have no time right now?:hmmm:

Well, what we need and I am surprised somebody in Silicon Valley or Europe or Japan/Korea/Taiwan has not come up with soem kind of plug-in device that would boost your fps rate by say 40%.I know there are external graphic cards( unfortunately only designed for the Fujitsu-Siemens brand of laptops) , external hard disks and all kind of often more or less useful gizmo on the market but nobody has come up with such a device.When you think how huge the gaming market is(US $ 150 billion and growing at 11% a year) and how international ( no longer restricted to Europe and North America. Asia, Eastern Europe and LatAm are catching up fast))it has become there's tons of money to be made by inventing a thing like that!.

I don't want to sound dismissive of 4gigpatch or prioaff but frankly this is small potatoes.Giving a 1 or 2 fps boost to a game that need to run at 20 to 30 is like putting a plaster on limb that has been chopped off!:stare:

[ZeeWolf]

Zee did he say no as in no way I am going to do that or no as in I have no time right now?:hmmm:

Well, what we need and I am surprised somebody in Silicon Valley or Europe or Japan/Korea/Taiwan has not come up with soem kind of plug-in device that would boost your fps rate by say 40%.I know there are external graphic cards( unfortunately only designed for the Fujitsu-Siemens brand of laptops) , external hard disks and all kind of often more or less useful gizmo on the market but nobody has come up with such a device.When you think how huge the gaming market is(US $ 150 billion and growing at 11% a year) and how international ( no longer restricted to Europe and North America. Asia, Eastern Europe and LatAm are catching up fast))it has become there's tons of money to be made by inventing a thing like that!.

I don't want to sound dismissive of 4gigpatch or prioaff but frankly this is small potatoes.Giving a 1 or 2 fps boost to a game that need to run at 20 to 30 is like putting a plaster on limb that has been chopped off!:stare:

I believe it was two fold - time and work on a specific game. I am totally
confident in Daniel's ability to create a performance patch for PC Sims and
Games as a general wide range patch. And he just started a new job at
Hex-rays in Belgium that he says(in his blog) he is very happy with.
I think he deserves allot of appreciation for what he has already done in
sharing his excellent programing skills with no charge. This fellow is truly
generous and highly skilled. :salute:

ZW

[LcSummers]

[QUOTE=ZeeWolf;1391325][QUOTE=LcSummers;1390795]

Hallo Kamerad LC,
I e-mailed the fellow who wrote the 4gbit patch and asked him if he could
wright us a patch so tvt could access more than one CPU. :DL But he said
no. :cry:

Oh well, it didn't hurt to ask him , but his answer hurt.

Hi ZW,

thank you for your efforts. Dont see that as a failure, see it as a step forward. Now we know that this is not the right way we have to make another way around like an Königstiger wich cant pass a bridge. There is another way around, so heads up:yeah:


LC

[LcSummers]

Hello old fellow Monsieur Frinic,

Quote: I don't want to sound dismissive of 4gigpatch or prioaff but frankly this is small potatoes.Giving a 1 or 2 fps boost to a game that need to run at 20 to 30 is like putting a plaster on limb that has been chopped off!:stare:[/QUOTE]

See it the other way around, if TvT is running with 1 or 2 fps we have all the time to target the enemy and make a bulls eye hit :haha: Then they will call us Sharpshooters like Otto Carius with more than 150 kills. :yeah:

Salute


LC :salute:



PS: Morty my old comrade where are you? Hope not enjoying those female tankers!

[frinik]

Lc my own favourite is Kurt Knispel the greatest of all Bolschevik panzerknackers, 168 certified kills and may be as many as 192...Died barely 2 weeks before war´s end at the age of 24....:cry:

In honour of his memory :salute:

Lc, Please don´t mention anything about Morty enjoying female tankers in case Mrs. Panzer Commander reads the posts.Otherwise he´ll be grounded and punished.No computer, no games for at least 2 weeks....:88)

Cheers

[woofiedog]

Will be patiently awaiting news from the front about the up coming German Mission 4. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-jumping-smileys-388.gif

http://images3.webpark.ru/uploads53/090127/woman_09.jpg
Lt. Aleksandra Samusenko

http://www.exter-company.com/en/HY35-R01/russian-female-tank-commander.html

[LcSummers]

Lc my own favourite is Kurt Knispel the greatest of all Bolschevik panzerknackers, 168 certified kills and may be as many as 192...Died barely 2 weeks before war´s end at the age of 24....:cry:

In honour of his memory :salute:

Lc, Please don´t mention anything about Morty enjoying female tankers in case Mrs. Panzer Commander reads the posts.Otherwise he´ll be grounded and punished.No computer, no games for at least 2 weeks....:88)

Cheers


Hi frinic,

you are right i will be quiet and never mention morty with female tankers. He is getting in trouble with Mrs Panzercommander:D

I do not have a special German tanker.

I like Knipsel cause of his incredable kills.
I like Carius because he survived the war opend a pharmacy and was a Commander of a Jagdtiger. That vehicle is an exotic, i know every vehicle had its advantages and disatvantages but this one was rare. Only 88 were build.
I like M. Wittman cause he was born 25 Km from were i am living.

Cheers

LC:salute:

[ZeeWolf]

Well guys I kind over-worked myself over the past few weeks and I had
to ease up until my batteries were recharged and racks re-loaded etc.
German mission 4 is in the last stages of completion and it is priority.
When you play it you will see why - it is ferocious.

GM4:
You have been ordered to cover the withdraw and link-up with our forces
who are holding the road northeast of us. While there is only a few more
Kilometers to go we will have to engage the Red Army force from the north
in there attempt to cut us off from our Kamrads.

Vorwards!

ZW :salute:

[morttheslayer]

Lc & Frinic
I don't "enjoy" female Tank ladies especially if they are firing at me but if any care to surrender and they happen to look as good as Woofiedog's photo - then I could be persuaded to be lenient.

It's a very pleasant change to see a Russian Lady that doesn't resemble a Yeti. --- Mind you I don't get out much!!

Zee don't overdo it I'm relying on you to answer all my dork questions :haha:
All the Best - Mort :salute:

[ZeeWolf]

Lc & Frinic
I don't "enjoy" female Tank ladies especially if they are firing at me but if any care to surrender and they happen to look as good as Woofiedog's photo - then I could be persuaded to be lenient.

It's a very pleasant change to see a Russian Lady that doesn't resemble a Yeti. --- Mind you I don't get out much!!

Zee don't overdo it I'm relying on you to answer all my dork questions :haha:
All the Best - Mort :salute:

A Yeti is called BIG feet over here in the "Great Northwest" :haha: no relation to the BIG Bottom though :har:

ZW

[frinik]

Zee take it eaZee!Last thing we want is for your to be sent to a sanatorium in the Hartz mountains for shell shocked veterans while the front is crumbling all around us.We need our ZugFuehrer to lead us to final victory over the low FPS and assorted glitches and bugs that the enemy is sure to plant in the game!!!!:nope:

Zum Zeeg mith Wolf!:shucks:

Zee I believe Bigfoot is also known by its Amerindian name Sasquash or something like that.Incidentally in Europe the Yeti is also a pretty preppy SUV made by VW/Skoda....

Speaking of feats I remember reading the exploit of Karl Koerner who around 24th April 1945 near Marsdorf in the Berlin area happened to stumble upon a couple of Soviet tank brigades ,120 to 140 tanks,refuellingin a village.He was commanding a Tiger II and only had one wingman with him.Without hesitation they attacked them.He first took out 11 JS2s which were on the road and destroyed them then turned their attention to the rst.They created a real panic when they hit fuel trucks which exploded scattering Soviet tanks and crews.He exhausted all his ammo and personally accounted for 39 tanks.His wingman accounted for another 26!!!!This barely 2 1/2 weeks before the end of the war.He was decorated with the Knights Cross on the 28th in Berlin and was the last one to receive it.He survived the war and became a dental technician.He had a score of 100 tanks which he managed in only 3 months.Had he been accompanied by another 3 to 4 tanks they could have completely wiped out the 2 brigades.

Incidentally when I read stories like this I just wonder how could they manage to obtain fuel and ammo considering how chaotic and disrupted Germany was in the last 6 weeks of the war?

LC,Morty I have travelled and lived in Eastern Europe and believe me Russian, Belarussian, Ukrainian and Polish etc women are absolutely stunning:o
You'f want to surrender to them;)

Finally the Jagdtiger was one useless Sp vehicle the Germans could have done without.Compared to the Jagdpanther, the Hetzer or Jagdpanzer it was just slow, gas guzzling, too large to cross bridges and just a good target for allies jabos.It's combat record was dismal. For the price of building 1 JT they could have built 4 useful Stug IVs instead.Another loony idea along with the Ratte and Maus.

Cheers Kameraden

[ZeeWolf]

Zee take it eaZee!Last thing we want is for your to be sent to a sanatorium in the Hartz mountains for shell shocked veterans while the front is crumbling all around us.We need our ZugFuehrer to lead us to final victory over the low FPS and assorted glitches and bugs that the enemy is sure to plant in the game!!!!:nope:

Zum Zeeg mith Wolf!:shucks:

Zee I believe Bigfoot is also known by its Amerindian name Sasquash or something like that.Incidentally in Europe the Yeti is also a pretty preppy SUV made by VW/Skoda....

Speaking of feats I remember reading the exploit of Karl Koerner who around 24th April 1945 near Marsdorf in the Berlin area happened to stumble upon a couple of Soviet tank brigades ,120 to 140 tanks,refuellingin a village.He was commanding a Tiger II and only had one wingman with him.Without hesitation they attacked them.He first took out 11 JS2s which were on the road and destroyed them then turned their attention to the rst.They created a real panic when they hit fuel trucks which exploded scattering Soviet tanks and crews.He exhausted all his ammo and personally accounted for 39 tanks.His wingman accounted for another 26!!!!This barely 2 1/2 weeks before the end of the war.He was decorated with the Knights Cross on the 28th in Berlin and was the last one to receive it.He survived the war and became a dental technician.He had a score of 100 tanks which he managed in only 3 months.Had he been accompanied by another 3 to 4 tanks they could have completely wiped out the 2 brigades.

Incidentally when I read stories like this I just wonder how could they manage to obtain fuel and ammo considering how chaotic and disrupted Germany was in the last 6 weeks of the war?

LC,Morty I have travelled and lived in Eastern Europe and believe me Russian, Belarussian, Ukrainian and Polish etc women are absolutely stunning:o
You'f want to surrender to them;)

Finally the Jagdtiger was one useless Sp vehicle the Germans could have done without.Compared to the Jagdpanther, the Hetzer or Jagdpanzer it was just slow, gas guzzling, too large to cross bridges and just a good target for allies jabos.It's combat record was dismal. For the price of building 1 JT they could have built 4 useful Stug IVs instead.Another loony idea along with the Ratte and Maus.

Cheers Kameraden

Your ZugFuehrer will report to the front in the new German mission 4 battle ready.:salute:

Meanwhile the young guys can look forward to their fifties, it's where amazing things start to happen. Like women who you thought looked kinda like Sasquash start to look pretty good. But frinik I have to agree - those Russian gals are BEAUTIFUL! and sweet as honey too.
And yes your Karl Koerner story is another account that is amazing. The bombing of Germany in the last few months of the war was an act of wanton death and destruction designed as a "Red Carpet" for the Morguenthou Plan. Witch to this day the former allies of the Soviet Union deny ever being implemented. So determined were the Red Armies allies in the killing as many Germans the original scientists in the US who worked on the A-bomb was hoping for their invention to be used on the Fatherland.
So along with all those merciless fire bombings on the women and children of Germany they wanted the A-Bomb to be their "Cherry on top"
so-to-speak. And yet the men of Germany fought on.

Sometimes I become discouraged and think it will take a thousand years for the truth to come out. But I take courage from the fact that it is the truth that will stand forever not lies.

Vorwärts Kameraden!

ZW

[LcSummers]

Hi Frinic,


Quote:LC,Morty I have travelled and lived in Eastern Europe and believe me Russian, Belarussian, Ukrainian and Polish etc women are absolutely stunning:o
You'f want to surrender to them;)

Thats true what you are writing but i prefer Hungarian women because my wife s from Hungary. I know that very well. :)


Quote:Finally the Jagdtiger was one useless Sp vehicle the Germans could have done without.Compared to the Jagdpanther, the Hetzer or Jagdpanzer it was just slow, gas guzzling, too large to cross bridges and just a good target for allies jabos.It's combat record was dismal. For the price of building 1 JT they could have built 4 useful Stug IVs instead.Another loony idea along with the Ratte and Maus.

The same was with the Königstiger (i like that monster very much), too much fuel consumtion, troubles with the road wheels and gearbox etc. So the Köti had the same problems, i mentioned that i wouldnt point on the advantages and disadvantages of the tanks ( i know them very well) but i like the JT with all of its disadvantages and today you can find only 3 examples of them. When reading the stories of the 653rd and 512th s.Pz.Jg.Abt. the JTs were feared to the end of the war by American forces. The JT was mainly used on the WF.I saw a video when some JTs surrenderd at Iserlohn. It is really a superb video.

So as ZW knows i like tanks/destroyers (like the Jagdpanther späte Ausf.) in the last stages of WWII (1944-1945). Not only German, Allied tanks too.

BTW frinic, you know very much, so if i have a question may i relay on you?

Thanks


LC:salute:

[LcSummers]

ZW,

take care, do not think that we could not wait for a release. As i said once, easy, we have enough time and when you need some RR then do it.:up:

After my accident i needed that too. So dont hesitate and take your time. With a fresh mind you can start things better you see options were you did not realized it. This is my opinion and many of us, included me do understand that.:yeah:

Slowly but surley ZW


LC

[frinik]

Lc please go ahead with your question I´ll be pleased to answer it to the best of my abilities.:yeah:

Your wife is Hungarian? Good solid allies of Germany in both World Wars.Still very close to Germany and Austria.

Zee it´s true that the carpet bombings of the last few months of the war were useless and unjustified howver to the credit of the Americans it was the British led by the infamous Bomber Harris who with their night raids did most of the damage to the civilian populaiton.The Americans focussed on dau , precise( relatively) bombings against industrial and logistical targets and they really ground German industrial capacity and transportation to a halt. Amongst the cause ofr German defeat along with Hitler´s attack on the Soviet Union and distrastrous war leadership the US precision bombings as well as their industrial might really won the war for the allies.They systematically deprived Germany of synthetic fuel, ball bearings, railway transportation and choked the war effort. Without their bombings Germany might have lasted another year or two.The Soviet manpower was as well a major cause of defeat bleeding Germany of its manpower and war material....British contribution was secondary but important.However it must be said tha Germany started the ball with the irresponsible bombings of Amsterdam and England in 1940-41.No matter what the A bomb scientists (many were Jews and had no reasons to feel any kindness for Nazi Germany) would have wanted the US gov would not have used the A Bomb against Germany.For various reasons, racial( it´s one thing against Japanese Asians whom they really hated), the risk of atomic contamination of POWs and slabe labour and friendly neighbouring countries but also because they knew the Germans had hiuge stocklpile of lethal poisons gas , sarin, tabun etc which the German could have effectively used in retaliation with V1s or V2s against the UK or US forces in Europe causing huge casualties. The Allies knew about thta threat and took it seriously..Not to forget that 1 in very 4 American has German or Austrian roots.

Germans are no quitters, its part of the history of Germany to be clobbered(Roman occupation,the black plague, the wars of reformaiton, the peasant wars, the 30 years war( 1-3 of German population died. The Rheinland had to be repopulated by Swiss German settlers) the French wars of the XVII and XVIII th centuries, Napoleonic invasion,both World wars etc have thought the Germans to be tenacious. I know it because I have German( Prussian) blood and I don´t give up easily and never without a tough fight:shucks:.Adversity breeds toughness!

Lc I saw the doc about the surrender of the Jagdtigers in Iserlohn on you tube it looked like a family reunion more than a surrender!Civilians were lining up and waiving at the panzer crews and the Americans looked relaxed more like a friendly gathering than a formal surrender.Still I manitain that the Jagdtiger was a very unwise vehicle for a country fighting with fuel and ammo shortages, logistical disruptions, lack of experienced crews, numerical disavantages and absolutely no air support on the contrary ....I´d be curious to see how many tanks did they destroy?

Cheers

[LcSummers]

Hi Frinic so my first question.

I know it is not about Kursk battle but i am interested in the Puma Sd.Kfz 234/2 with 50mm Pak. Can you tell me wich SS Unit used them and in the Ardennes do you can "show" me what kind of markings esp. Turmnummer they used?

Were some of them used in the Kursk battle too?


Thanx a lot for your help


LC

[woofiedog]

:) The web site may help you out with the unit markings.

http://germandressdaggers.com/Panzer%20Menu.htm

http://germandressdaggers.com/Panzer%20Section%20Divisional%20markings%20Stug%20 Brigade%201.htm

101 units of the 234/2 produced were distributed as follows:
-Panzer Lehr Div. (1 Kompanie/PzAufkAbt 130): 25 units. Painted in dark yellow and without numerals or crosses.
- 2 PzDiv (1.Kompanie/PzAufkAbt 2): 25 units. Some of its vehicles seem painted dark yellow without any marking (not even license plates) but a small trident and the Aufklärungs insignia, both on the front of the hull, at the left. Others, like the well knwon 111 carried 3 tone camo, crosses and numerals.
- 1 SSPzDiv (SSPzAufkAbt 1): 16 units. painted in dark yellow with camo, probably 3 tone. They also carried crosses and numerals (3 digits)
- 20 PzDiv ( PzAufkAbt 20): 16 units. There is a photo of a Puma white washed, in Silesia.
- 7 PzDiv (1Kompanie/ PzAufkAbt 7): 6 units
- 13 PzDiv: not known.

http://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=147179&page=1

http://anonymous-generaltopics.blogspot.com/2009/12/schwerer-panzerspahwagen.html

http://panzerkeil.dre.hu/harcjarm/psw/sdkfz234/surrender_116.jpg

[Dung_Beetle]

Hi All,

I haven't played a tank sim since Panzer Elite Special Edition; except, for the buggy T72 Balkans on Fire. I was really looking forward to T34 vs. Tiger, but read the reviews, and didn't want to buy another unfinished sim.

I have a high-end system, and am enjoying Flaming Cliffs 2.0. Great Upgrade! Well worth the money! http://lockon.co.uk/index.php?end_pos=1671&scr=default

However, I am a tanker at heart.

I need a good tank sim. I just want to know if this is this worth buying. Will it work for my system?

I don't have T34 vs. Tiger. I would have to buy it, and then donate to the honorable and hardworking mod community.

I don't have a lot of money to throw around these days, but as I said I need a good tank sim. Steel Beasts graphics just don't do it for me. Plus, I like WWII tanks.

Here are my specs:

Asus P6T7
Gigabyte 3 x GTX 285
Creative Fatality 1 Titanium Champion Series
Intel 920 OC @ 3.7 (air cooled)
LG W3000h monitor
Corsair Dominator 1600 12 GB kit

I would appreciate any advice for someone who wants a great tank sim, but doesn't want an, expensive, unfinished project that might not work well.

I respect the work being done here, and would gladly spend money for a finished working sim of this genre. I’ve read through the posts, but would like specific advice relating to my system. Plus, I’m hoping for any new input that might encourage me to purchase this product and support the community.

Gentleman! - Your advice! - Please!

Dung_Beetle
!

[Chucky]

Welcome to the forum Dung_Beetle:salute:

I think that with 3 x GTX 285's you maybe won't have a problem running it?
I only have 1 and have seen good frame rates.

Seeing as Lighthouse have gone under,there is always the chance to pick it up very cheaply,thereby keeping costs down.ZeeWolf's mod isn't the cheapest I have ever seen,about the price of an average game maybe,but the guy is making improvements to a tank sim that it seems a lot of people want.

Steel Fury didn't do it for me,I have Steel Beasts Pro PE but the graphics are too simple,although for realism it can't be beaten.

I've said this before,and apart from one video on Youtube,we need some footage of Kursk! I always find that some decent footage of a game I want will always have me reaching for my wallet!

[frinik]

Lc both Panzer Lehr and 1st SS Panzer division fielded Puma scout cars with the 50mm gun during Wacht am Rhein( Watch on the Rhine or the Battle of the Bulge).1st SS had 6 and PL also had a handful.I'll try to find the markings and turmnummer(numbers on the turret).

Dung_Beetle check the threads on thr forum for what Kursk and ZeeWolf's work on TvsT has to offer.I think the price is wotrth paying for all the goodies we are getting and going to get. Otherwise WWII-wise there's only Steel Fury with various modswhich I play and like .

Cheers

[LcSummers]

:) The web site may help you out with the unit markings.

http://germandressdaggers.com/Panzer%20Menu.htm

http://germandressdaggers.com/Panzer%20Section%20Divisional%20markings%20Stug%20 Brigade%201.htm

101 units of the 234/2 produced were distributed as follows:
-Panzer Lehr Div. (1 Kompanie/PzAufkAbt 130): 25 units. Painted in dark yellow and without numerals or crosses.
- 2 PzDiv (1.Kompanie/PzAufkAbt 2): 25 units. Some of its vehicles seem painted dark yellow without any marking (not even license plates) but a small trident and the Aufklärungs insignia, both on the front of the hull, at the left. Others, like the well knwon 111 carried 3 tone camo, crosses and numerals.
- 1 SSPzDiv (SSPzAufkAbt 1): 16 units. painted in dark yellow with camo, probably 3 tone. They also carried crosses and numerals (3 digits)
- 20 PzDiv ( PzAufkAbt 20): 16 units. There is a photo of a Puma white washed, in Silesia.
- 7 PzDiv (1Kompanie/ PzAufkAbt 7): 6 units
- 13 PzDiv: not known.

http://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=147179&page=1

http://anonymous-generaltopics.blogspot.com/2009/12/schwerer-panzerspahwagen.html

http://panzerkeil.dre.hu/harcjarm/psw/sdkfz234/surrender_116.jpg


Hi woofiedog,

really this is fantastic. You helped me very much. Again thank you. Now i have a lot of information about the Puma. These are very good sites for me. I really enjoy them. :yeah:



ZW!

I thought about the future missions. How about (in Kursk, in France or Ardennes, you mentioned to do in the future something like this) to make a recon mission to find the best way for our tanks, to determine enemies strength etc. Its only a suggestion and its not important to implement recon vehicles and missions, it was only a thought.

Cheers and have a nice day



LC :rock:

[LcSummers]

Lc both Panzer Lehr and 1st SS Panzer division fielded Puma scout cars with the 50mm gun during Wacht am Rhein( Watch on the Rhine or the Battle of the Bulge).1st SS had 6 and PL also had a handful.I'll try to find the markings and turmnummer(numbers on the turret).

Dung_Beetle check the threads on thr forum for what Kursk and ZeeWolf's work on TvsT has to offer.I think the price is wotrth paying for all the goodies we are getting and going to get. Otherwise WWII-wise there's only Steel Fury with various modswhich I play and like .

Cheers


Frinic,

great information too. I am interested in Wacht am Rhein as i mentioned in earlier blogs i was in La Gleize, Coo, Trois Ponts. This would be cool if you were able to found some Turmnummern for these Panzerdivisionen. I followed the route wich Obersturmbannführer Peiper took and were he left behind his "whole Regiment " at the evening of Christmas day.

What i found were the KÖTIs Turmnummern, Commanders and their last place. ( abondoned, destroyed etc.)

If i am right Peiper rode on a Panther. Here, it is very hard to find about those Panthers. I know for sure that 3 of them had the Steel road wheels, #221 was abondoned in La Gleize.

About the Pumas its difficult ti find something.

Thanks a lot for your efforts


LC :salute:

[morttheslayer]

Thanks Zee I am a very inneficient (Panzer) Helmsman now - thanks for the new promotion. :haha:
Having played the new Mission No3 (excellent concur with Frinic's comments) I play with headphones and so am now deaf!!!:wah: also didn't get through the latest Kursk mission twice (nothing new here!) due to tracks shot away!
Small request for future missions :hmmm: will it be possible to have a couple of hanomags trailling behind the spearhead that might repair/reload you in these circumstances?? If too difficult don't worry!

I also find during a lot of activity where FPS drop really low (say 5.2 for example) when I swap views from external (F6) or commander's external normal view and go to Commanders external or internal "BINOCULAR" view the FPS roll up by approx 4/5 FPS which is really helpful if the action is getting jerky. May help others get a better experience during these occasions.

Zee, Lc & Frinic - Thanks for letting me know what I'm missing with Beautiful Eastern European Ladies. Zee said even "Yeti lookers" start to get attractive when you reach 50; but I find now I'm over 60 it's anything with a pulse :har:
BTW I think Dung Beetle should sell one of his Graphics cards and buy both TvsT and Steel Fury. I quite like SF, true it's not a heavyweight but its a well done, polished and rounded game with not many bugs. :up:

Lc - I too like the accounts of the Battle of the Bulge and the photo I have is Peiper and his driver Zwigert in what looks like a Kubelwagon - not a Panther:haha:
All the best - Mort:salute:

[woofiedog]

Here is a site with Puma markings used during the Ardennes Offensive... Missing-Lynx.com. Then go to... Gallary/German/Sdfz234/2 Puma :D

It's only a modeling site... but it should be close to the time period markings.

[Dung_Beetle]

[QUOTE=morttheslayer;1395415]BTW I think Dung Beetle should sell one of his Graphics cards and buy both TvsT and Steel Fury. I quite like SF, true it's not a heavyweight but its a well done, polished and rounded game with not many bugs. :up:

Hi all & thanks for the input.

3 cards with a 30" monitor is the only way to go.:DL Performance up, and temps down.:yeah:

I tried to find TvsT. It is hard to find, and not cheap. :cry:

Does anybody know of a cheap place to buy TvsT? I found a cheap copy on eBay, but I don't like ebay:nope:.

All other copies seem to be over $30.00.

[ZeeWolf]

[QUOTE=morttheslayer;1395415]BTW I think Dung Beetle should sell one of his Graphics cards and buy both TvsT and Steel Fury. I quite like SF, true it's not a heavyweight but its a well done, polished and rounded game with not many bugs. :up:

Hi all & thanks for the input.

3 cards with a 30" monitor is the only way to go.:DL Performance up, and temps down.:yeah:

I tried to find TvsT. It is hard to find, and not cheap. :cry:

Does anybody know of a cheap place to buy TvsT? I found a cheap copy on eBay, but I don't like ebay:nope:.

All other copies seem to be over $30.00.

Welcome aboard DB :DL

Try here:GoGamer.com (http://www.gogamer.com/WWII-Battle-Tanks--T-34-vs-Tiger--I--PC-Games_stcVVproductId29341304VVcatId444758VVviewpro d.htm)

You may have the computer and graphics power to tell us what playing
TvsT is really like:haha:

I'm doing my best Dung Beetle Boy, with the help of my Kamerads who
like T34 vs Tiger as much as anyone. This project is really a team effort
though and once you get in to it you will see the potential here.

Cheers :salute:

ZeeWolf

[Dung_Beetle]

Thanks for the link ZeeWolf,

I ordered TvsT.:D

It will be a little while before I can contribute to the project.:cry:

Is there anything; that I need to download in preperation before playing, patches etc? :06:

I should be able to contribute to the project in the next month or two.:up:

I'm really looking forward to this.:woot:

[ZeeWolf]

Thanks for the link ZeeWolf,

I ordered TvsT.:D

It will be a little while before I can contribute to the project.:cry:

Is there anything; that I need to download in preperation before playing, patches etc? :06:

I should be able to contribute to the project in the next month or two.:up:

I'm really looking forward to this.:woot:

That's great DB,
You''ll need the graphics files: Msvcr Files (http://www.filefront.com/15181093/Msvcr_Files.zip/)
and you could use a manual too: Manual (http://www.filefront.com/15430935/Manual_T34.zip/)

we'er sure you'll be happy here :salute:

ZeeWolf

[frinik]

Hi Lc, I drafted a message for you yesterday with some info and then then internet crashed before I was able to send it and the internet was on and off for the remainder of the day( that's for living in the so-called Mecca of IT outsourcing.If only people knew!!!!).:nope:

I was able to find a pics of a PUma which was part of gruppe Knittel with marking 028 on the turret.Other sites said that most Puma had been repainted white for better camo and thus the numbers had been covered.Only a couple were left with their camo ; tiger stripes on sand-coloured background.Another site said that most of the Pumas used in the Ardennes were those that survived the Normandy disaster and consequently had the same numerals.There are good books with pics of the Puma(Osprey) but you can't access them online.

What's your interest in those small wheeled vehicles LC????

BTW there 's modern Puma which is beingn used by the Bundeswehr like there's a modern day Marder which is being retired .

KampfGruppe Peiper had Panthers G, Tiger IIs, Panzer IVs( presumably G H or J versions. I think Peiper himself drove around in a Kuebelwagen as mentioned by Morty. If he had to use a tank he would probably pick the Panther.

Cheers

[Dung_Beetle]

I got the files downloaded & the manual. What do I do with the files?:06:

This is great! I'm glad to be joining the community. I can smell the cordite already.:sunny:

[ZeeWolf]

LC, Morti and frinik,
I have been taking your advice - my report : It's working! :up:
I've been relaxing just "Playing TVT" the new German mission4 and wow
I don't know how anybody going to survive this man! :D There's nothing
like this one. You guys will probably have to tell me how to. :yep:
However you are given a choice: Engage the enemy onslaught or keep
moving to the designated position. Your Kamrades will stay and do their
duty.

Vorwärts! :salute:

ZW

[frinik]

Zee; when we told you or rather advised you to take it eaZee and relax we didn't mean by that for you to take the time to devise hellish new missions in which all of us will get killed in the first five minutes!!!!!:hmmm:

We meant well deserved rest and no machiavellian plot for you to hatch.....:wah:

Looking forward to it. Will kiss my wife and kids and cat too goodbye!:o

Cheers

[ZeeWolf]

Zee; when we told you or rather advised you to take it eaZee and relax we didn't mean by that for you to take the time to devise hellish new missions in which all of us will get killed in the first five minutes!!!!!:hmmm:

We meant well deserved rest and no machiavellian plot for you to hatch.....:wah:

Looking forward to it. Will kiss my wife and kids and cat too goodbye!:o

Cheers

:har: think positive frinik!
Just figured I'd do all that eaZee-ing after mission 4 :03:

What you will find frinik is almost complete safety until you decide on how
you'll engage. But, once your out there :arrgh!:

Cheers :up:

ZW

[frinik]

Zee knowing I canm already imagine the shells impacting my Tiger´s armour shaking me loose from my Turmzielfernrohr 9 every time I try to spot and shoot a target!!!!:doh:

OK for mission 4.

BTW I find it a bit strange that somebody who can afford 3 Nvidia GTX 285 gcs and a 30" screen finds a $ 30.00 copy of TvsT too expensive.:hmmm:.None of my business I know still a tad odd.....

Ok for mission Hell 4.

Cheers

[Dung_Beetle]

I was working when I bought my new rig, and now I'm not.:oops:

Now, I've got time to play.:D But not much cash.:wah:

[morttheslayer]

Dung Beetle - looks like you are already contributing :up:
I now feel totally inadequate :wah: closely matching Mrs Panzer Commander's view of me!!! 3 GPUs AND a 30inch screen you must get neck ache scanning unless your chair is located in the garden :haha:
No - I'm only jealous :wah:

Looking forward to Mission 4 - BTW I will survive; (like Gloria Gaynor) because I can select "Immortality" :D No No it's cheating I won't really :shifty:

I don't know what mount Peiper favoured, Frinic's right he used to drive around to recon for his spearhead/offensive during the Ardennes offensive but it's interesting - I'll see what I can find. I remember when Jane's WW2 fighters was released, being a little more than interested in that particular offensive the game was a gift for me when released. I had to get a Voodoo 2 card to play it!! Happy days - a real manual and film clips made it a superb entertainment package (of the day) etc etc silly old man rambling :zzz:

All for now - Mort :salute:

"He's a very modest man - with a lot to be modest about"
Winston Churchill about Clement Atlee.

[Dung_Beetle]

I haven't contributed to the project yet, morttheslayer, but plan too!:03:

It's just not in the budget for this month, next month, I hope:damn:

I got some great news from DCS (Digital Combat Simulations). I emailed them if they are planning to building some tank models like T90C, Challenger, M1A2 Abrams, and Leopard II. They replied it's in the works, but no release date is set yet. They said all above models would be included.:up:

[frinik]

Sorry about the remark Dung_Beetle, just unhealthy curiosity on my part:D.

Sorry about your job although the World economy seems to be picking up.Hopefully you'll have a stab at one in the near future after, of course ,having lots of hours to play tank sims:03:.

Just one question: I wasn't aware that you could insert more than one graphic card in a pc unless it comes equipped with 2 like crossfire .How did you manage to have 3?????

I just bought myself a pc with an Nvidia GT235 ( although I would have preferred an ATI Radeon) and before I even get the pc I am alraedy thinking about upgrading.

Thanks for any info you can share:salute:

Cheers

[Dung_Beetle]

No problems Frinick I am not offended. Look at the specs on the P6T7. It handles 3 large video cards well, and a sound card to boot. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813131390

It has two NF200 that doubles the number lanes on available on the board to 72 lanes. You could have 2 x GTX 295 for quad SLI. This board is 3-way SLI ready.

I love it! I'm running all programs 2560 x 1600 full settings in high temps 50's, 60's. The only thing that runs my cards hot is the Napoleon & Empires Total War Series. I'm running low 70's with those games.:rock:

[frinik]

Am I dreaming or is this really the specs that you have on your rig?
running:
i7-920 processor,
windows 7-64bit,
6Gb Gskill Trident ram,
3xBFG GTX 260 in SLI,
2x1.5Tb WD sata drives.

3 gigs of hard disk???? Each GTX 260 has probably 1 gig of dedicated graphic /video memory so we are talking about 3 gigs of total dedicated video memory!!!! Your rig is a Tiger II while the rest of us are still driving Panzer IIIs:o

WOW when I see the resolutions and FPS you're getting I am flabbergasted!!!!!Mind you I would hate to see your electricity bills because 3 high end graphic cards must require a lot of juice. Not to mention that you probably need a couple of cooling fans or pads to stop your pc from overheating!!!!

When I think I am happy playing Steel Fury missions with anywhere from 12 to 26 fps at 1280 X 768 resolution and other games I can't pass 40 fps....And Tvst best case scenario I get 25 fps with the stock missions and with Zee's mods anywhere from 4.6 to 11 fps.....:doh:

This is great fior you, and us and ZeeWolf because once you join our merry club you'll be a Beta Tester for sure and we'll get an idea of what a super-boosted rocket -type rig like your can achieve with Zee's mods.If you get 30 fps with his mods on then you'll be on top of the hill!

You seem to be playing mostly RTS . It's great to jump into the world of sims because it gives you the concrete feel of a battlefield whereas RTS give you more the abstract or impersonal side of it.

Best of luck job-wise!:yeah:

Cheers

[frinik]

Morty a Voodo 2 card??? What you're supposed to do with it? Stick needles in it and wait for the results?Or sacrifice and behead some chicken while dancing around a fire????:haha:

I have to PM you!!!!

Cheers

My regards to Mrs. Panzer Commander.Remind her that you're over 60 and grey hair deserve respect and indulgence in their own weird habits( including playing sims).:rotfl2:

[Priscalan]

hello everybody,
i'm french and i speak a little in english (very little :wah:)
I'm a fan of since the beginning t34vstiger (russian version), and I would like Events Members of your team, contribute financially to it. How can I do?
Thanks for your reply.
cheers :D

[frinik]

Priscalan tu dois payer $ 60.00 ou l´équivalent en euros pour devenir membre du club de ZeeWolf( qui te donne droit ,outre les mods et missions, a un appui technique de premiere classe!) et avoir droit a tous ses mods et missions depuis le debut jusqu´a maintenant.Pour plus de details tu dois aller sur son site.Voici le site web ou tu pourras trouver l´info desiree:http://www.tanksimzw.com/. Tu peux consulter ou lire un des posts de novembre 2009 de ce meme dossier afin d´y voir les annonces de Zeewolf.Il y a de nouvelles missions cote allemand 1ere, 3eme et 6eme et une nouvelle misison cote russe la 1ere. Ensuite il ya un mod Pre Kursk Alpha que tu dois installer avant de pouvoir installer les nouvelles missions du mod Kursk soit la premiere et la 4eme qui va sortir ce weekend.

Bienvenue:salute:

Frinik

[Priscalan]

Merci Frinik, j'y vais de ce pas :D

[Priscalan]

it's ok :salute:

[ZeeWolf]

Welcome Priscalan :up:

ZeeWolf

[Chucky]

Hello Priscalan :salute:

Frinik,how many languages can you speak?

[Priscalan]

hello all,
I am very happy to be part of your team :woot:
I am very excited for this mod, this simulator is for me the most immersive I know.
Zeewolf, if I can help you for this mod, it will be with a great pleasure :salute:
I am 60 years old and have much free time :yeah:
cheers :|\\

[Dung_Beetle]

Am I dreaming or is this really the specs that you have on your rig?
running:
i7-920 processor,
windows 7-64bit,
6Gb Gskill Trident ram,
3xBFG GTX 260 in SLI,
2x1.5Tb WD sata drives.

3 gigs of hard disk???? Each GTX 260 has probably 1 gig of dedicated graphic /video memory so we are talking about 3 gigs of total dedicated video memory!!!! Your rig is a Tiger II while the rest of us are still driving Panzer IIIs:o

WOW when I see the resolutions and FPS you're getting I am flabbergasted!!!!!Mind you I would hate to see your electricity bills because 3 high end graphic cards must require a lot of juice. Not to mention that you probably need a couple of cooling fans or pads to stop your pc from overheating!!!!

When I think I am happy playing Steel Fury missions with anywhere from 12 to 26 fps at 1280 X 768 resolution and other games I can't pass 40 fps....And Tvst best case scenario I get 25 fps with the stock missions and with Zee's mods anywhere from 4.6 to 11 fps.....:doh:

This is great fior you, and us and ZeeWolf because once you join our merry club you'll be a Beta Tester for sure and we'll get an idea of what a super-boosted rocket -type rig like your can achieve with Zee's mods.If you get 30 fps with his mods on then you'll be on top of the hill!

You seem to be playing mostly RTS . It's great to jump into the world of sims because it gives you the concrete feel of a battlefield whereas RTS give you more the abstract or impersonal side of it.

Best of luck job-wise!:yeah:

Cheers



OK here is my system:

30" Monitor: LG W3000h
Case: lian Li PC-P80
Motherboard: Asus P6T7
Graphics Cards: Gigabyte 3 x GTX 285
Sound Card: Creative Fatality 2 Titanium Champion Series
CPU: Intel 920 @ 3.7 (aircooled: Noctua NH-U12P)
Memory: Corsair Dominator 12GB Kit (CMD12GX3M6A1600C8)
Power Supply: Silverstone ST1500
Hard Disks:2 x 300GB 10,000RPM WD Velociraptor + 1TB 7200 RPM WD RE3
DVD Burner: Plextor 880SA
Speakers 7 + 2 subs: Cambridge Soundworks Megaworks 510D + Microworks II.
Joystick: Hotas Cougar (Uber NXT)

I used to have a really good job:damn:

[ZeeWolf]

No kidd'n DB :o That is AWESOME!:rock:

ZW

PS: Don't worry about a job, when it's work or starve to death there really is no choice.

[frinik]

DB tank is a Maus all right! However beware you don't run out of Otto :D( German code name for fuel during WWII).

Well enjoy your specs! I am waiting for my own humble( but 4th) new computer with only ONE graphic card:wah: .....

Chucky I speak 5 languages and I can understand another 2 if they're not spoken too fast...

Morty I PM'ed you!

Cheers

[ZeeWolf]

Wow frinik :know:, I don't have any thing to add to my resume like that man,
that's great.

HEY, DID YOU KNOW in California being bi-lingual means your illiterate in
two languages :haha:

ZW

[frinik]

Well Zee I can also speak Spanglish so I ain't worried!:D

I just love languages and with my job I get a stab at learning new ones.Plus being European-born, you just pedal your bike 3 street corners and bingo you're already in another country....:03:

But Zee; you have the most valued knowledge of us all here.You can read, decipher and interpret the TvsT's coding and the mission editor.This I wish I could do:dead:

Cheers

[Priscalan]

Hi Zeewolf,

i've downloaded the project and installed it.

i've testing the first russian mission, beautyfull (and hard :rotfl2:)
With full settings i've 16fps and it's fluid and no crashes.

Good job Zee...

:salute:

[frinik]

:salute:Priscalan juste pour te donner un topo:

Il ya les 2 missions gratuites( cadeau de Noel de ZeeWolF) Mission numero 1 allemande appelee Tigers Shake Kurtenkli and la premiere mission russe refaite don t tu parles.
>Ensuite pour les membres payants seulement la nouvelle mission allemande numero 6 qui s appelle Tigers Break Out.

ensuite le Pre Kursk Foundation alpha v6 mod qui est la base qui te permet d´installer les missions du mod Koursk.

Ensuite la premiere mission Koursk version allegee pour ordis a faible capacite( cartes graphiques et microprocesseurs lents) ou laversion forte ppour ceux qui ont des ordinateurs puissants( avec plsu de barrage d ´artillerie et plus tanks).Eprouvante dans les 2 cas.

Ensuite il y a la nouvelle mission allemande 3 Defending Simashkovo avec barrage d´artillerie et plus de tanks

Et finalement pour ce weekend la mission 4 Koursk qui promet de la bagarre de blindes.

Ensuite chaque mois une ou 2 nouvelles missions avec de nouveaux chars et autres modeles .

Amuse-toi!

[morttheslayer]

Thanks Frinic I will look out for your PM message it's not appeared yet.
Unlike you I only speak one language (but badly). I am getting slightly annoyed I didn't upgrade the right machine!! My new notebook is Uber but I got it for internet usage, ------
So now I can Download all Zees updates at the speed of light and then transfer them to my "gaming Rig" and play them at 5 FPS plus :wah:
I think I got the upgrade back to front.:doh:

BTW If I had a Voodoo card now it would mean I had to stick pins in my eyes to get the graphics!!!
Onward and upward

Best Regards - Mort :salute:

[Priscalan]

Frinik merci,

mais Zee ne m'a donné que le mod de base pour l'instant avec la mission 1 russe, la mission 1 allemande et la mission 6 que je viens de finir, pour moi ça a l'air bon:
j'ai une carte mère Asus Rampage Formula, 4 Go de ram corsair, 5 To de hdd, cpu intel e8600, carte ati hd 4870
je vois que les forêts sont beaucoup plus denses, que les cartes sont plus grandes et que les textures sont nettement améliorées. J'ai eu un vrai plaisir à jouer ces missions, ca donne un gout de nouveau très prononcé; Si tu regardes dans le dossier "textures", il y a un fichier qui s'appelle: u_ger_number_Priscalan.tex. C'était mon tag pour les parties multi joueurs avec le Fightclan dont je faisais partie. Tu peux éditer les fichiers *.tex avec xnview (voilà pour la petite histoire :DL)
j'attends maintenant que Zeewolf me transmettent les autres fichiers et ça roule ...

[Priscalan]

Translation for project members:) from my previous post

Frinik thank you,

but Zee has given me only the basic mod with Russian mission 1, the german mission 1 and 6 I just finished, for me it looks good:
I have a motherboard Asus Rampage Formula, Corsair 4GB RAM, 5 TB of HDD, Intel E8600 CPU, graphics card ati hd 4870
I see that forests are much denser, that the maps are bigger and the textures are much improved. I had a real pleasure to play these missions, it gives a very pronounced taste again, If you look in the folder "textures", there is a file called: u_ger_number_Priscalan.tex. That was my tag for multi players with Fightclan including myself. You can edit the files *. tex with xnview (here for story)
I look forward now that I Zeewolf other files and it rolls ...

[Dung_Beetle]

I haven't contributed to the project yet, morttheslayer, but plan too!:03:

It's just not in the budget for this month, next month, I hope:damn:

I got some great news from DCS (Digital Combat Simulations). I emailed them if they are planning to building some tank models like T90C, Challenger, M1A2 Abrams, and Leopard II. They replied it's in the works, but no release date is set yet. They said all above models would be included.:up:


Earlier, in this post, I mentioned, that DCS would be making a tank simulator. I have been corrected by DCS. They will be adding the above tank models to there flight sims. They have no plans on making a tank simulator.:wah:

[frinik]

DB what is DCS involved in exactly?

Priscalan your graphic card is the best on the market currently:up:.It's the one I want to buy for myself.How many gigabytes of video(graphic) memory does it have 1 or 2????

Cheerrs.

[ZeeWolf]

Translation for project members:) from my previous post

Frinik thank you,

but Zee has given me only the basic mod with Russian mission 1, the german mission 1 and 6 I just finished, for me it looks good:
I have a motherboard Asus Rampage Formula, Corsair 4GB RAM, 5 TB of HDD, Intel E8600 CPU, graphics card ati hd 4870
I see that forests are much denser, that the maps are bigger and the textures are much improved. I had a real pleasure to play these missions, it gives a very pronounced taste again, If you look in the folder "textures", there is a file called: u_ger_number_Priscalan.tex. That was my tag for multi players with Fightclan including myself. You can edit the files *. tex with xnview (here for story)
I look forward now that I Zeewolf other files and it rolls ...

Herr Priscalan,
Are you ready for some tuff action? I hope so because I will be sending
you the Kursk Mission 1, German Mission 3 and the new German Mission 4
all this weekend. So LC, Morty,frinik and all Project ZW Kameraden prepare.
The graphics is very demanding but absolutely beautiful. The last three
days have been for testing and final adjustments so you will be able to
survive. You need to take out about 7 enemy Tanks and SUs and your
Kamerads will get you through the rest of the Soviet Tank Onslaught.
This clash is fierce but not half as bad as a few days ago.

My thoughts and prayers will be with you :haha:

ZW :salute:

PS: Tomorrow will be for art work and misc. lose ends and of course
playing GM4 again :up:

[ZeeWolf]

OK here is my system:

30" Monitor: LG W3000h
Case: lian Li PC-P80
Motherboard: Asus P6T7
Graphics Cards: Gigabyte 3 x GTX 285
Sound Card: Creative Fatality 2 Titanium Champion Series
CPU: Intel 920 @ 3.7 (aircooled: Noctua NH-U12P)
Memory: Corsair Dominator 12GB Kit (CMD12GX3M6A1600C8)
Power Supply: Silverstone ST1500
Hard Disks:2 x 300GB 10,000RPM WD Velociraptor + 1TB 7200 RPM WD RE3
DVD Burner: Plextor 880SA
Speakers 7 + 2 subs: Cambridge Soundworks Megaworks 510D + Microworks II.
Joystick: Hotas Cougar (Uber NXT)

I used to have a really good job:damn:

Dung Beetle I want a computer system just like yours!

I wonder if Project ZeeWolf could qualify for some of that Government
Bailout money :hmmm:

ZeeWolf :DL

[Priscalan]

DB what is DCS involved in exactly?

Priscalan your graphic card is the best on the market currently:up:.It's the one I want to buy for myself.How many gigabytes of video(graphic) memory does it have 1 or 2????

Cheerrs.

good morning Frinik,

I've only 512 MB memory on graphic card :wah:, my all configuration is:

-Monitor : Iiyama 19' A902 MT Vision Master Pro 451 (CRT non LCD , i don't like lcd monitor) with desktop area 1152x864, color quality 32 bits, refresh rate 85 Hz
- Case: Cooler Master HAF-922 (air cooled)
- Motherboard: Asus Rampage Formula (chipset Intel X48/ICH9R)
- Graphic Card: ATI Sapshire HD4870 (512 MB memory)
- Soundcard: SupremeFx II ( with external Technics Amplifier 2x50W and Sony Speakers)
- CPU: Intel Core2 Duo E8600, LGA775 at 3.3MHz
- Memory: Corsair 2x2 GB DDR2
- Power Supply: Cool Master Real Power M700 (700W continuous)
- Hard Disk Drive: 10 (2 usb2, 2 ide, 6 Sata) = 4.7 Tb
- Joystick: Saîtek X52
- Gamepad: Saîtek P2900 Wireless

It's all :|\\

[frinik]

Priscalan, your microprocessor is very good! 3.3 ghtz that´s what you need to run the games smoothly! At 512 MBS your graphic card is also good enough!:up: My GC is a bit better than yours but my microprocessor is only 2.0 ghtz which explains why ZeeWolf´s mods give me low fps and will run fine for you.Try stopping your antivirus while you play your games it should give you even higher fps...

Salut!

[RICH12ACE]

hi all i am a "project zeewolf member" will i get the new kursk add on e mailed to me when it comes out?? :hmmm:

[Dung_Beetle]

DB what is DCS involved in exactly?

Priscalan your graphic card is the best on the market currently:up:.It's the one I want to buy for myself.How many gigabytes of video(graphic) memory does it have 1 or 2????

Cheerrs.

DCS is Digital Combat Simulation http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/
They are the producers of LockOn and Ka-50 Black Shark. They just released an excellant update for LockOn called Flaming Cliffs 2. http://lockon.co.uk/index.php?end_pos=1671&scr=default

They are both excellant sims with a great community. They work very well on new and old systems. I love their work. They are old school sims, the kind with a 400 page manual, and are really state of the art.

My card has 1GB. What about the GTX 480?

[Dung_Beetle]

Dung Beetle I want a computer system just like yours!

I wonder if Project ZeeWolf could qualify for some of that Government
Bailout money :hmmm:

ZeeWolf :DL

If I were buying a new system today. I would do the same, but upgrade to:

CPU: Intel 930
Memory: Corsair Dominator 1866 12GB kit
Video: 3 x GTX 480

Otherwise the same.

cheers:rock:

[frinik]

Sorry DB I was asking Priscalan aboiut his video card memory capacity. I don´t know what the GTX 480 has 1.5 gbs dedicated????

I would personally go for the ATI Radeon HD 4870 crossfire( x 2) 4 gbs of dedicated memory but that will come eventually...

At this rate it won´t be long before they come up with gcs with 3, 4 or even 5 gbs of dedicated memory....3 years ago a 1 gb graphic card would make people go WOW! Now it´s routine...

RICH!12ACE just Pm ZeeWolf but for sure oyu´ll get the mods emailed. Check your spam because often his emails end up there ...

WELCOME to the ever growing club.There were originally 25 of us now there must be close to 40 and counting.
The more the merrier

[ZeeWolf]

hi all i am a "project zeewolf member" will i get the new kursk add on e mailed to me when it comes out?? :hmmm:

Yes Rich, you certainly will :salute:

ZW

[LcSummers]

So LC, Morty,frinik and all Project ZW Kameraden prepare.
The graphics is very demanding but absolutely beautiful. The last three
days have been for testing and final adjustments so you will be able to
survive. You need to take out about 7 enemy Tanks and SUs and your
Kamerads will get you through the rest of the Soviet Tank Onslaught.
This clash is fierce but not half as bad as a few days ago.



Hi ZW and members


these are good news. GM 4 and a new Tiger tank. :yeah:.
Yes, this weekend will be very rough. I cant wait to install it.

Was a hard weak for me, but now its going uphills. Hopefully i am fully prepared for this new mission? Only 5 minutes to live. Perfect but before beeing killed i make a hell out of my Tiger.

Lets prepare for fight Kameraden!!!

Vorwärts!


LC:salute:

[ZeeWolf]

So LC, Morty,frinik and all Project ZW Kameraden prepare.
The graphics is very demanding but absolutely beautiful. The last three
days have been for testing and final adjustments so you will be able to
survive. You need to take out about 7 enemy Tanks and SUs and your
Kamerads will get you through the rest of the Soviet Tank Onslaught.
This clash is fierce but not half as bad as a few days ago.



Hi ZW and members


these are good news. GM 4 and a new Tiger tank. :yeah:.
Yes, this weekend will be very rough. I cant wait to install it.

Was a hard weak for me, but now its going uphills. Hopefully i am fully prepared for this new mission? Only 5 minutes to live. Perfect but before beeing killed i make a hell out of my Tiger.

Lets prepare for fight Kameraden!!!

Vorwärts!


LC:salute:


Hi LC,
Sorry new Tiger is not ready yet but meanwhile....

New German Mission 4 Screenies



http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_GM4_2.jpg

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_GM4_3.jpg

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_GM4_4.jpg

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_GM4_5.jpg


ZW:salute:

[frinik]

Kamerad Lc, thanks for the heads up( while we still have one....:D).What about enemy number 2 after the Bolschevick tanks the FPS????:hmmm:


Remember Lc As the immortal General Patton once said¨" The goal is not for you poor sonsofbitches to die for our Vaterland but to make sure the poor sonsofbitches on the opposite side die for theirs":arrgh!:

Cheers

[LcSummers]

[QUOTE=ZeeWolf;1399398]Hi LC,
Sorry new Tiger is not ready yet but meanwhile....

New German Mission 4 Screenies


Never mind ZW,

i think it will be lot of work and fun. Now we can go again on tank hunting!:D

LC

[LcSummers]

Kamerad Lc, thanks for the heads up( while we still have one....:D).What about enemy number 2 after the Bolschevick tanks the FPS????:hmmm:


Remember Lc As the immortal General Patton once said¨" The goal is not for you poor sonsofbitches to die for our Vaterland but to make sure the poor sonsofbitches on the opposite side die for theirs":arrgh!:

Cheers


thank you for that good advise try to survive the new battle but if not, i wil us my crutches! Oh, its impossible since two days i didnt use them. I must humble on my own twoo feet!:D


Lets get those sonsofbitches :salute:


LC

[ZeeWolf]

thank you for that good advise try to survive the new battle but if not, i wil us my crutches! Oh, its impossible since two days i didnt use them. I must humble on my own twoo feet!:D


Lets get those sonsofbitches :salute:


LC


:har: OK Kamerad! Let's Get'em

No more crutches, they haven't got a chance :up:


ZW :salute:

[Priscalan]

Hi,

How to insert images into my post?

I made a night combat in the third russian mission:haha:

[ZeeWolf]

Kamerad Lc, thanks for the heads up( while we still have one....:D).What about enemy number 2 after the Bolschevick tanks the FPS????:hmmm:


Remember Lc As the immortal General Patton once said¨" The goal is not for you poor sonsofbitches to die for our Vaterland but to make sure the poor sonsofbitches on the opposite side die for theirs":arrgh!:

Cheers

Think positive frinik :haha:

ZW

[ZeeWolf]

Hi,

How to insert images into my post?

I made a night combat in the third russian mission:haha:

Herr Priscalan, use the options at the top of reply window. The little
yellow square with the mountain in it.
Note:It is wise to only use ".jpg" that are no larger than 1024 pixels wide.

Give it a try Kamerad :up:

ZW

[Priscalan]

sorry don't work Zeewolf :(

Please enter the URL of your image : http//: ( the image is on my hdd c:\Fraps\Screenshots\ x.jpg )

i replace "http//:" by "c:\Fraps\Screenshots\ x.jpg" and don't workhttp://www.subsim.com/radioroom/C:%5CFraps%5CScreenshots%5Ctsv%202010-05-21%2018-40-48-40.jpg

[ZeeWolf]

sorry don't work Zeewolf :(

Please enter the URL of your image : http//: ( the image is on my hdd c:\Fraps\Screenshots\ x.jpg )

i replace "http//:" by "c:\Fraps\Screenshots\ x.jpg" and don't workhttp://www.subsim.com/radioroom/C:%5CFraps%5CScreenshots%5Ctsv%202010-05-21%2018-40-48-40.jpg

OH Ok! you have to upload your images to the web. I use:

http://photobucket.com/

it's free and easy to use. Then once you get your images uploaded you
copy and paste the IMG code in your message box.:salute:

ZW

[ZeeWolf]

After a bitter slug fest the crew of Tiger 221 knock out 14 enemy tanks.
At a terrible cost, our driver and radio operator Gefallen und Loader serverly
Verwundet. We succeeded in halting the first wave.

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_GM4_0.jpg

Für unsere Brüder Kameraden!

ZW :salute:

[Dung_Beetle]

Are there any controlable BT3's I love those fast little bastards?:arrgh!:
Those Tigers look great, WOW, I can't wait. I got shipping notification yesterday, so I'm guessing Monday or Tuesday my TvsT will arrive.:yeah:

P.S. frinik, GTX 480 1GB GDDR5, I think. I go with nVidia because I have had too many driver problems with ATI.

DB

[frinik]

BT3s?????Do you mean the BT5s (Bwistra tankii or fast tank)those small Soviet armoured cars?I don´t think they would have had any on the frontlines by 1943.Too vulnerable and also too undergunned.Those not destroyed in the first 6 months of the war in the East were kept for training I think.You wouldn´t want to have one against anything bigger than a panzer II and even then....:o

Very nice pics Zee.What tanks will we be fighting?Just T34/85, SU 85 or Kvs as well? Any possibility of introducing some of your new models like the KV1 or JS2/122 to vary the menu a little bit?:D


PS I am positive Zee just signed my 6th life insurance policy:88)

Cheers

[Priscalan]

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz131/Priscalan/T34vsTiger/tsv2010-05-2118-46-09-26.jpg

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz131/Priscalan/T34vsTiger/tsv2010-05-2118-45-39-31.jpg



http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz131/Priscalan/T34vsTiger/tsv2010-05-2118-40-48-40.jpg

:salute:

[frinik]

Oh yes I played that one it's not a night mission but more like a gloomy stormy day. Zee did very well with the change of weather conditions.:yeah:Nice pics Priscalan!

Zee what kind of fps can we expect to have with Kursk mission 4?

Cheers

[ZeeWolf]

That is great Priscalan,
With your interest in tweaking TvsT reminds me that is exactly how I
got started. I have a sky with a full moon and I know your mission is
Russian Mission 3 I think I can give you a hand. :up:

Let me know if you need anything Kamerad!

ZW:salute:

[ZeeWolf]

The fps in the new German mission 4 is heavy but nothing like Kursk Mission
1. However the best thing when fps is low is to stay in the tank and drive
from the Commanders seat looking through F5 view. I have become convinced
that the changing views and seats while your tank is traveling takes the most
power and directly contributes to the swamp effect. The swamp effect is an
simple indicator that your system lacks enough power in CPU and GPU.

Having said all that the New German Mission 4 is very playable through the
entire mission. :up:

ATB
ZW:salute:

[frinik]

A full moon mission Zee when can we have it? Any flares to light the battlefield??? That'd be great!:yeah:

I personally drive my tanks always third person view F6 ( always automatic like my car!!!) and switch to F5 or F3 to aim and shoot.

The only time I noticed the swamp effect with the Kursk mission 1 near the end of it.Looking forward and everywars playing it Zee!!!!:salute:
G'night Zee bed time for you! ( I ain't your mama just your nurse:D)

Prsicalan pour que tu comprennes de quoi on parle lorsque les fps(images par seconde) deviennent trop basses 4 ou 5 par example on constate des resulstats dans le jeu.Le terrain devient mou and instable et ton tank semble s'enfoncer comme dans des sables mouvants d'ou le terme swamp(marais ou marecage) effect.C'est du au fait que tes fps sont trop lents donc l'image ralentie au point ou tu sembles t'enfoncer.Ceux d'entre nous avec des pc qui ont des microprocesseurs trop lent moins de 2.0 gigahertz subissent ce genre de probleme. Pas de solution sauf de changer de micropuce!!!!

Cheers

[ZeeWolf]

A full moon mission Zee when can we have it? Any flares to light the battlefield??? That'd be great!:yeah:

I personally drive my tanks always third person view F6 ( always automatic like my car!!!) and switch to F5 or F3 to aim and shoot.

The only time I noticed the swamp effect with the Kursk mission 1 near the end of it.Looking forward and everywars playing it Zee!!!!:salute:
G'night Zee bed time for you! ( I ain't your mama just your nurse:D)

Prsicalan pour que tu comprennes de quoi on parle lorsque les fps(images par seconde) deviennent trop basses 4 ou 5 par example on constate des resulstats dans le jeu.Le terrain devient mou and instable et ton tank semble s'enfoncer comme dans des sables mouvants d'ou le terme swamp(marais ou marecage) effect.C'est du au fait que tes fps sont trop lents donc l'image ralentie au point ou tu sembles t'enfoncer.Ceux d'entre nous avec des pc qui ont des microprocesseurs trop lent moins de 2.0 gigahertz subissent ce genre de probleme. Pas de solution sauf de changer de micropuce!!!!

Cheers

Good night nurse frinik :zzz:

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_Night1.jpg

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_Night_2.jpg

ZzzzzzzW

[Dung_Beetle]

BT3s?????Do you mean the BT5s (Bwistra tankii or fast tank)those small Soviet armoured cars?I don´t think they would have had any on the frontlines by 1943.Too vulnerable and also too undergunned.Those not destroyed in the first 6 months of the war in the East were kept for training I think.You wouldn´t want to have one against anything bigger than a panzer II and even then....:o

Very nice pics Zee.What tanks will we be fighting?Just T34/85, SU 85 or Kvs as well? Any possibility of introducing some of your new models like the KV1 or JS2/122 to vary the menu a little bit?:D


PS I am positive Zee just signed my 6th life insurance policy:88)

Cheers


It's been some time since I've played a tank sim. It was not a BT3 that I was thinking of, but a BT7 http://www.wwiivehicles.com/ussr/tanks-medium/bt-7.asp

Those little tanks are tough for there size, and very fast. My favorite light tank in Panzer Elite. Russian mod made for PE, by, I think it was the Lenort brothers.

[Priscalan]

:o wouah , moonlight !!! wunderbar! :salute:

[Priscalan]

Hi Admiral Zeewolf,

When for the missions Kursk? I'm Ready :D :yeah:

I'll tweaked tvst too :)

The scripts are in what language ( C, C++, C#, Lua or other)?

What do you use for the textures, some are not readable with Xnview?

what do you use for the models (Kv1,..) Maya? (maya 5 or other) .

Many questions , i think ...:D

[Priscalan]

Salut Frinik, :DL

pour moi pas de problème, mes fps varient du moins bon 16 à 39 fps

je n'ai jamais eu de problèmes même avec des réglages au maxi pour tout et en 1152x864 à 85Mhz de rafraîchissement, j'attends de voir ( avec impatience :D) les missions Kursk pour voir si je dois passer sur un quad core

[ZeeWolf]

Hi Admiral Zeewolf,

When for the missions Kursk? I'm Ready :D :yeah:

I'll tweaked tvst too :)

The scripts are in what language ( C, C++, C#, Lua or other)?

What do you use for the textures, some are not readable with Xnview?

what do you use for the models (Kv1,..) Maya? (maya 5 or other) .

Many questions , i think ...:D

Check your e-mail Herr Priscalan :salute:

And the scripts are written in Java also the tex files are really dds files. Just change .tex to .dds that's it
I would like to send you the USSR mission 3 with the night sky so you can tweak it and learn from it. So just let me know and I'll get that to you too :up:


ZW

[frinik]

DB I also play Panzer Elite.Yeah that´s right you have those little buggers in the OstPak when you start the South of Prokhorovska mission it´s usually the first one that gets taken out by my Tiger....BTW the BT5s too are toughies in SF I remember having to shoot them repeatedly with 75 mm shells.In general Soviet tanks were tough cookies....

Priscalan, tu en as de la chance tu vas pouvoir jouer la mission nocturne:cry:.En plus tu dois avoir un sacre bon pc.Quelle est la puissance de ta carte graphique?

ZEE any chance we can get that 3rd Soviet night mission???? Nothing more romantic than serenading T34s with 88mm shells by the moonlight;)

Cheers to all

[Priscalan]

Impressive this charge of Tigers under artillery fire!!! :up:

My FPS down to 6.6 :(

thanx Admiral :salute:

[frinik]

Priscalan welcome to the club! Most if not all of us experienced the same.My fps were between 4.4 to 5.9 and this was the light(la version allegee avec moins d´artillerie et de tanks) version....


Tu te debrouilles tres bien en anglais!!!!Donc pas de soucis de ce cote.Amuse-toi, la mission 4 de Koursk arrive .....Tu as la vesion allegee de la misison 1 de Koursk?

:salute:

[ZeeWolf]

DB I also play Panzer Elite.Yeah that´s right you have those little buggers in the OstPak when you start the South of Prokhorovska mission it´s usually the first one that gets taken out by my Tiger....BTW the BT5s too are toughies in SF I remember having to shoot them repeatedly with 75 mm shells.In general Soviet tanks were tough cookies....

Priscalan, tu en as de la chance tu vas pouvoir jouer la mission nocturne:cry:.En plus tu dois avoir un sacre bon pc.Quelle est la puissance de ta carte graphique?

ZEE any chance we can get that 3rd Soviet night mission???? Nothing more romantic than serenading T34s with 88mm shells by the moonlight;)

Cheers to all

Sure frinik, I'll send it out with the New German Mission 4. Both will be ready
tomorrow. I think the challenge will be good. It will be simply the stock USSR mission 3 at night. :up:
But maybe I could hide a couple of Tigers for you though :arrgh!:

ZW:salute:

[frinik]

No problem ZEE I have cat´s eyes:o I can see those predators hiding anywhere.Great news 2 missions.Thanks!:up:

[ZeeWolf]

Impressive this charge of Tigers under artillery fire!!! :up:

My FPS down to 6.6 :(

thanx Admiral :salute:

Thanks Kamerad Priscalan,
I'm doing all I can to address the fps issue, but the need for power will be
a constant. Don't let it get you down Priscalan, computer components are
become affordable and may be awhile yet before we're all out in the street
or living out of are car the way things are going.

Cheers!

ZW

[ZeeWolf]

No problem ZEE I have cat´s eyes:o I can see those predators hiding anywhere.Great news 2 missions.Thanks!:up:

Cat's eyes- that might be good enough but don't forget so does the Tiger :yep:

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_USSR_M3_Night_2.jpg

And he's out there ...:ping:

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_USSR_M3_Night_1.jpg

Cheers

ZW :salute:

[Priscalan]

slt Frinik,

d'après Zeewolf, ce serait la version light que j'ai reçu, ça promet pour la version hard :hmmm:; mais j'avais du P2P et d'autres programmes qui tournaient aussi, il va falloir que je fasse des réglages pour TvsT le mettre en priorite dans les processus, réduire au mini les processus... More I write in English, more my English is becoming fluent :) . i speak too german and russian, I understand italian and spanish (little)

Admiral , I've made a texture night too, but don't work... :damn: I've made a jpeg 2048x512x32 and convert her in DDS format with gimp; and put her in folder textures as Sky_13... then I've modified mission.script in campaign1 mission 3.:o Where am i wrong?

[LcSummers]

And he's out there ...:ping:

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_USSR_M3_Night_1.jpg

Hi ZW,

that moon looks great! Hopefully i will not mistake it with Silent Hunter 5 and will give an ALARM but nothing happens! No crashdiving, may be crash riding, no bell sound only the 88 mm gun sound.:yeah:

Very impressive.

Till

Later


LC:D

[frinik]

I just hope the guys in my crew don't start growing teeth, claws and become hairy and HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!OHHHH My GOd they're attacking me.ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH !:88)

[ZeeWolf]

slt Frinik,

d'après Zeewolf, ce serait la version light que j'ai reçu, ça promet pour la version hard :hmmm:; mais j'avais du P2P et d'autres programmes qui tournaient aussi, il va falloir que je fasse des réglages pour TvsT le mettre en priorite dans les processus, réduire au mini les processus... More I write in English, more my English is becoming fluent :) . i speak too german and russian, I understand italian and spanish (little)

Admiral , I've made a texture night too, but don't work... :damn: I've made a jpeg 2048x512x32 and convert her in DDS format with gimp; and put her in folder textures as Sky_13... then I've modified mission.script in campaign1 mission 3.:o Where am i wrong?

I will have the campaign1 mission 3 in a separate Zip file so you can study
it carefully. This is the best way to learn the mysteries of TvsT.:up:
However the Sky "DDS" must be DXT5 or DXT3 format with Alpha and no Mips.

You certainly have the ability to learn to speak TvsT too Priscalan :DL

My Professor's Motto: "Learn By Doing!" :know:

Vorwärts!

ZW:salute:

[ZeeWolf]

And he's out there ...:ping:

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_USSR_M3_Night_1.jpg

Hi ZW,

that moon looks great! Hopefully i will not mistake it with Silent Hunter 5 and will give an ALARM but nothing happens! No crashdiving, may be crash riding, no bell sound only the 88 mm gun sound.:yeah:

Very impressive.

Till

Later


LC:D

Thanks Kamerad,
But SH5's moon looks alittle better though over the ocean.

ZW

[Dung_Beetle]

Hey ZeeWolf,

To get up to date with latest configuration of TvT: What would I need to contribute, and what would the download size be? :06:

I have 5GB data limit per month, and I use all of that + per month. Verizon wireless charges me huge price hike for going over. More gouging from corporate america.:nope:

I usually go to coffee shop with laptop to get my large downloads, but my laptop just crapped the bed.:wah:

[Priscalan]

I will have the campaign1 mission 3 in a separate Zip file so you can study
it carefully. This is the best way to learn the mysteries of TvsT.:up:
However the Sky "DDS" must be DXT5 or DXT3 format with Alpha and no Mips.

You certainly have the ability to learn to speak TvsT too Priscalan :DL

My Professor's Motto: "Learn By Doing!" :know:

Vorwärts!

ZW:salute:


Thanx Zeewolf,

I am willing to take the file campaign1 mission 3 to study :D and compare with original file.
For my Sky , i've converted him in dds format with compression Dxt3, i knew that ;), I had already modified textures for the tiger and the T34 last year, but I also have many difficults with the editor:cry:

[ZeeWolf]

Hey ZeeWolf,

To get up to date with latest configuration of TvT: What would I need to contribute, and what would the download size be? :06:

I have 5GB data limit per month, and I use all of that + per month. Verizon wireless charges me huge price hike for going over. More gouging from corporate america.:nope:

I usually go to coffee shop with laptop to get my large downloads, but my laptop just crapped the bed.:wah:

The $60.00 membership gets you everything from the beginning to Jan- 31-2011.
The download size will be 275mgs for the Foundation file and under 10mgs
for each mission. And sometimes a major Update of 30mgs. So, you should
be ok once the Foundation file is installed.
And there is no gouging here the 1 year membership covers it all. No more money is required or will be asked for.:up:
My 2cents on wireless and their blatant greed: They are sickening and they
deserve to be tarred and feathered - the American touch.:DL

Sorry about your laptop Kamerad,
ZW

[ZeeWolf]

Thanx Zeewolf,

I am willing to take the file campaign1 mission 3 to study :D and compare with original file.
For my Sky , i've converted him in dds format with compression Dxt3, i knew that ;), I had already modified textures for the tiger and the T34 last year, but I also have many difficults with the editor:cry:

Oh that's great, I will help you with the editor with a tutorial that I want to
put to gather ( Lots of pictures).

I am sure with your enthusiasm you just need to get the basics. :yep:


ZW:salute:

[Dung_Beetle]

That's great ZeeWolf:yeah:

That download is not too big, and shouldn't use up too much of my monthly, Verizon, allowance:wah:

Any chance of an E100, Jagtiger, or a Maus showing up in the mod:06:

DB

[Priscalan]

hi Admiral, :salute:

I see, that you use too speedtree software to modify the trees :yeah:. what version?

[frinik]

Priscalan this is great if you get to master the mission editor you can create new user-made missions or give ZeeWolf a hand!I won´t try though looks too complicated. Playing with Steel Fury´s mission editor is keeping me busy enough anyway.

Zee, to second DB´s request do you think it would be possible to introduce a couple of new playable tanks, one for each side? WE could vote amongst the members to decide which two.I would vote for the Panther( any Ausfuehrung) on the German side and the KV85 or JS3 on the Soviet one.

DB, I doubt introducing monsters like the Maus or Ratte would be feasible. Also as a matter of historical accuracy these monsters never made it past either the wood mock-up stage or blueprints.They never saw any action and best case scenario would either never have been built( lack of fuel, spare parts etc) or built not before June or July 1945 had the war not finished before.On the other hand, the Jagdtiger might be possible although I would myself much prefer the Jagdpanther. My opinion for what it´s worth...:dead:

Cheers

[ZeeWolf]

That's great ZeeWolf:yeah:

That download is not too big, and shouldn't use up too much of my monthly, Verizon, allowance:wah:

Any chance of an E100, Jagtiger, or a Maus showing up in the mod:06:

DB

Not the E100 or the Maus but maybe JagdTiger. But there is still alot of stuff
I will definitely be doing.

Cheers
ZeeWolf

[ZeeWolf]

hi Admiral, :salute:

I see, that you use too speedtree software to modify the trees :yeah:. what version?

Speedtree is what the developers used. I don't have Speedtree do you?
If so I would love to add more trees Priscalan.

Cheers
Zw

[ZeeWolf]

Priscalan this is great if you get to master the mission editor you can create new user-made missions or give ZeeWolf a hand!I won´t try though looks too complicated. Playing with Steel Fury´s mission editor is keeping me busy enough anyway.

Zee, to second DB´s request do you think it would be possible to introduce a couple of new playable tanks, one for each side? WE could vote amongst the members to decide which two.I would vote for the Panther( any Ausfuehrung) on the German side and the KV85 or JS3 on the Soviet one.

DB, I doubt introducing monsters like the Maus or Ratte would be feasible. Also as a matter of historical accuracy these monsters never made it past either the wood mock-up stage or blueprints.They never saw any action and best case scenario would either never have been built( lack of fuel, spare parts etc) or built not before June or July 1945 had the war not finished before.On the other hand, the Jagdtiger might be possible although I would myself much prefer the Jagdpanther. My opinion for what it´s worth...:dead:

Cheers

Yes frinik I plan on some new playable Tanks. The JS2 and the new Tiger E1
1942. Then once I learn how to do it right I will be more certain about others. However I am very anxious to get back to modeling again. My detailed drawing's library is really huge and the necessity to build the common objects, trucks and buildings etc. is also huge.

In the Works!

ZW

[frinik]

Zee wouldn't it be simpler for you to make tanks you already introduced in your missions like the KV 1 or KV85 as playable ones? Less trouble for you\? Don;t you have a Panther ready to be introduced as non playable tank?

Cheers

[LcSummers]

Hi ZW,

tested GM4 and this is what i really like. Great stuff! Many Tanks and even the russian beast the JSU -152 is there. Thats really great. Many targets.:rock:

One question. After destroying ths SU-122 what must i do? Follow my tanks?

I really enjoyed the last three SU-122. I heard always their cannonfire and it was impossible to see them. But i spotted the smoke and gunfire so i began to shoot at 400m then 600m etc. until i hit them and i saw the black smoke. :yeah:

THANX A LOT ZW!!!!!!!!:D


LC

[ZeeWolf]

Zee wouldn't it be simpler for you to make tanks you already introduced in your missions like the KV 1 or KV85 as playable ones? Less trouble for you\? Don;t you have a Panther ready to be introduced as non playable tank?

Cheers

Yes it would but I have been focusing on performance issues and graphics.
The Kv 1 and KV-85 are not powerful enough (Weapons wise) to be a candidate for playable at this point. Of course my focus on 1943 is still the
aim for the "Project ZeeWolf" custom missions but that leaves the USSR
missions hanging in limbo so-to-speak. A powerful tank is needed for the
guys who like to play on the Soviet side with half a chance against our
beloved Tiger E1. Therefore the choas (as it seems) will start to make
more since now the most mundane things have been successfully worked
out (and figured out).:know:
During the work on the playable aspect I will be able to address the range
accuracy issue and learn first hand on what is required for custom interiors
etc.:yep:

Cheers
ZW :salute:

[ZeeWolf]

Hi ZW,

tested GM4 and this is what i really like. Great stuff! Many Tanks and even the russian beast the JSU -152 is there. Thats really great. Many targets.:rock:

One question. After destroying ths SU-122 what must i do? Follow my tanks?

I really enjoyed the last three SU-122. I heard always their cannonfire and it was impossible to see them. But i spotted the smoke and gunfire so i began to shoot at 400m then 600m etc. until i hit them and i saw the black smoke. :yeah:

THANX A LOT ZW!!!!!!!!:D


LC

Thanks LC,
After destroying all the enemy armor continue the withdrawal order.
You can find the location on the map before the mission starts. Become
familiar with it before starting your mission. Following the orders given in
the map screen is part of the mission. And once you reach a certain point
the mission will end in success.

Carry on Kamerad! :salute:

ZW

[Priscalan]

hi Admiral,

greats works, i like all :yeah::woot:. What are all the software do you use to do all this? :|\\;
I noticed that with reverse engenering, that in file menu "new level" was not implemented :doh:.

[ZeeWolf]

hi Admiral,

greats works, i like all :yeah::woot:. What are all the software do you use to do all this? :|\\;
I noticed that with reverse engenering, that in file menu "new level" was not implemented :doh:.

Thanks Kamerad! :DL

That level was used for landing zones when this thing was a helicopter sim.:yep:

No kidd'n :up:

ZW

[morttheslayer]

Hi Zee
Now I know why we had flying Tigers!! :haha:

PS Many thanks for the missions I haven't incorporated them yet Like Lc, but he never sleeps!!!

We have been hit by a heatwave so I haven't been in front of the PC much since it's our 7 days of summer we get here and I don't want to miss it :woot:
Ah too late it's going in two days!!!!

Best regards - Mort :salute:

[ZeeWolf]

Hi Zee
Now I know why we had flying Tigers!! :haha:

PS Many thanks for the missions I haven't incorporated them yet Like Lc, but he never sleeps!!!

We have been hit by a heatwave so I haven't been in front of the PC much since it's our 7 days of summer we get here and I don't want to miss it :woot:
Ah too late it's going in two days!!!!

Best regards - Mort :salute:

Hey Morty :haha: I never thought about that! Flying Tigers with a helicopter
syndrome.:know:

If summer is gone already my knee jerk reaction would be to blame the oil
spill caused by BP. :yep:

Cheers Morty!

ZW

[Dung_Beetle]

The new TvsT is here, The new TvsT is here. :up:

I don't know what those files; I downloaded are for yet ZeeWolf, but I'll figure it out.:salute:

Now all I need is 60 bucks.:arrgh!: Maybe I should get a paper route; until I find a real job.:doh:

[Dung_Beetle]

Anybody have an invalid serial number with TvsT?:06:
I can't get it installed.:wah:
I've entered it a million different ways, and still no go.:nope:

[Dung_Beetle]

My code in the box didn't work, but I found one on the internet, so I'm good too go.:yeah:

[ZeeWolf]

Unreal DB!
Your are not alone when it comes to bogus SN on the box though. It's been
a serious problem. Who knows who is responsible on something so incompetent.
It sounds like a one man operation with that kind of screw ups. :haha:
But hey instead of a paper route maybe you could get a job matching SN to
the proper CD's. :DL

Just a thought DB :up:

ZeeWolf

[Dung_Beetle]

Thanks for the Job advice ZeeWolf.:rotfl2:

OK, I got installed, and Bluescreen Of Death on 2nd launch of game. I restarted my computer, and installed the files you gave me into the main folder. I overwrote 2 files in the main folder.I haven't had a BSOD yet, but I've only tested both Geman and Russian a couple of times.

I am getting between 28 fps and 119 fps. 28 was in battle, and 119 was focused on top down view of tank. I have all settings cranked up and resolution is at 2560 x 1600.

DB

[ZeeWolf]

Thanks for the Job advice ZeeWolf.:rotfl2:

OK, I got installed, and Bluescreen Of Death on 2nd launch of game. I restarted my computer, and installed the files you gave me into the main folder. I overwrote 2 files in the main folder.I haven't had a BSOD yet, but I've only tested both Geman and Russian a couple of times.

I am getting between 28 fps and 119 fps. 28 was in battle, and 119 was focused on top down view of tank. I have all settings cranked up and resolution is at 2560 x 1600.

DB

Wow that's awesome DB. The best thing is to play the stock missions and
get acquainted with the Bugs and anomalies and then jump on board the
Project ZeeWolf. :up:

That way you will see a much greater deference :yep:

ZeeWolf

[Dung_Beetle]

OK, I've had a little time to play this Sim. It's running pretty well for me. decent frame rates at really low temps. I've got some questions.

Is there anyway to control wingman? Does multi-player work?

I can't seem to climb hills off-road with the tiger very well, or that's just the nature of the beast?

Does project ZeeWolf, add wingman control, and or, improve multi-player?

[frinik]

DB, there's no control over your wingmen in TvsT whether in the original game nor in ZeeWolf's mods.However ZeeWolf has managed to dramatically improve the AI behaviour to the point that your wingmen now actively support you in battle and in some cases just rush forward and leave you with the mop up.There's no more of the erratic and passive behaviour as you have with the original game.

TvsT was originally conceived as primarily a multi player sim. Which is why the stock missions are not very elaborate and limited in number.ZeeWolf's releases and mods/missions are for single player use. However as a collateral effect ,his improvements to the game, making it stable and erasing the bugs have indirectly helped the MP side of it. There are threads on this forum which specifically concern muliplay.There are mods MPP 3 to 5 which have been made by Murkz and others for MP( improving sounds of Tiger engine, of gun, adjusting reload rates of Tiger and T34 guns to real life specs etc).Check the past threads going back to 2008 and 2009 and you'll find those that deal with TvsT in MP.

[ZeeWolf]

Well guys I've fixed the Gun site Range issue.

This is a test shot at 1000 meters

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_Gunsite_Fix_1.jpg

Using the 10 meter scale, set at 1000 meters from the center of the Tiger. I set the
range at 1000 and fired one Pz.Gr.39-1 shot.

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_Gunsite_Fix_2.jpg

Close look at the hit

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_Gunsite_Fix_3.jpg

Now the same process at 2000 meters

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_Gunsite_Fix_4.jpg

at 2000 meters the accuracy is very good.

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_Gunsite_Fix_5.jpg

Now notice the 4meter Carot triangles set at 1000 meters against the 10 meter scale.

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_Gunsite_Fix_6.jpg

The deference in accuracy from the stock is remarkable

Vorwärts Kameraden! :salute:

ZW

[Dung_Beetle]

Wow, ZeeWolf I can't believe how much work you are putting into this game. :salute:

Were you a former tanker, retired programmer, or what got you so involved with this project?:06:

DB

[ZeeWolf]

Wow, ZeeWolf I can't believe how much work you are putting into this game. :salute:

Were you a former tanker, retired programmer, or what got you so involved with this project?:06:

DB

That's a interesting question DB. The absolute start was when I was a very
young boy with an interest in playing little army. That developed into a wide
range of hobbies and historical discoveries that added fuel to the fire so-to-
speak, that morphed it to a serious interest into WWII. Having grown up in
a generation that was able to listen to first hand account of at that time
was young WWII vets of my fathers age. They would come by, drink beer
with my dad and tell war stories. Of course as a kid very few would be talking directly to me
or even be in the same room for that matter but I listened and absorbed.
As a boy I would hear why we went to war with Japan but not with Germany. And that was my beginning.
As for my adult work I am a machinist by trade and a computer geek by
choice and still a boy with questions at heart.

ZeeWolf

[Dung_Beetle]

Well, I am very impressed ZeeWolf, and really like your work and dedication.:salute:

OK, I got some more questions or wants for TvsT::06:

Is there a zoom for the gun sight

Is there anyway to have a short range view, intermediate view, and long range view?

Is there any automated repair time for tank?

In Panzer Elite there were 3 views so if you were, parked in the bushes, waiting to ambush. You could hit either intermediate or long range, and you could look past the shrubs in front of your gun sight or binoculars. At least, that's the way I remember it. I notice with this Sim, I knock over a tree, and try to hide in the branches, but I can't see my target through the foliage. So, I have to use AI gunner, or put myself in the open to be gunner.

DB

[ZeeWolf]

Well, I am very impressed ZeeWolf, and really like your work and dedication.:salute:

OK, I got some more questions or wants for TvsT::06:

Is there a zoom for the gun sight

Is there anyway to have a short range view, intermediate view, and long range view?

Is there any automated repair time for tank?

In Panzer Elite there were 3 views so if you were, parked in the bushes, waiting to ambush. You could hit either intermediate or long range, and you could look past the shrubs in front of your gun sight or binoculars. At least, that's the way I remember it. I notice with this Sim, I knock over a tree, and try to hide in the branches, but I can't see my target through the foliage. So, I have to use AI gunner, or put myself in the open to be gunner.

DB

Thank you DB,
No zoom on the gun site, but the possibility for a zoom on the binoculars.
Have not focused on what all is required yet but that is a common feature
in any standard set of binoculars so it's on the list.
Next time foliage blocks your gun site try looking through the commanders
copula and line up the target by eye, that can be fun. :DL
Yes, repair is available for tank damage if you are within 20meters of a repair vehicle(that's not destroyed) which you will also be reloaded.

ZeeWolf

[frinik]

Hi Zee! Welcome news .My new computer has arrivwd!!!! Yeahhhhhh!:woot: I am going to set it up this weekend and install TvsT with your mods/missions/releases. I am anxious see the improvements in fps and gameplay.With a 2.6 or 2.8 ( :hmmm: )gigahertz processor, 8 gbs of RAM and a dedicated 1024 mb graphic card I do expect some real improvements...


I just need to know if I have to re-instal your Xmas gift and members only German mission 6( Tiger Break Out) or will do automatically come with the Pre Kursk Alpha v1 release once I instal it?I am trying to save myself unnecessary installations.


I'll be able to report and compare the fps and what resolution can I play and whether specs like mine are truly sufficient for good gameplay or not.If everything goes as well as planned then I'll be asking you for the Heavy Duty :shucks:Kursk Mission 1 rather than the " lite" version that I currently have.

Cheerio:sunny:

[Dung_Beetle]

Congrats, frinik, on the new puter.:woot:What are your system specs?:06:

I am having occasional "app crash" and "run-time" errors. It's not that often, but wondering if this is typical?:06:

[ZeeWolf]

Hi Zee! Welcome news .My new computer has arrivwd!!!! Yeahhhhhh!:woot: I am going to set it up this weekend and install TvsT with your mods/missions/releases. I am anxious see the improvements in fps and gameplay.With a 2.6 or 2.8 ( :hmmm: )gigahertz processor, 8 gbs of RAM and a dedicated 1024 mb graphic card I do expect some real improvements...


I just need to know if I have to re-instal your Xmas gift and members only German mission 6( Tiger Break Out) or will do automatically come with the Pre Kursk Alpha v1 release once I instal it?I am trying to save myself unnecessary installations.


I'll be able to report and compare the fps and what resolution can I play and whether specs like mine are truly sufficient for good gameplay or not.If everything goes as well as planned then I'll be asking you for the Heavy Duty :shucks:Kursk Mission 1 rather than the " lite" version that I currently have.

Cheerio:sunny:

That is good news :woot:

As far as install instructions I pasted this from the latest updates thread:

This is the thread that will clarify the current Project ZeeWolf releases.

1.) 4-10-2010, Pre Kursk Alpha v1 (275mgs) This is the accumulation of all
completed work, updates bug fixes,etc. on T34 vs Tiger from the beginning
of Project ZeeWolf. It also includes three all new single player missions:
Russian Mission 1 and German Missions 1 and 6 (Dose not include Kursk
Mission 1).

NOTE: This file will be the foundation of all future releases and makes
all previous releases obsolete.

I don't know how you can wait until the weekend man! I'd call in sick :o
Just kidding :DL

Let us know your new PC performance frinik,

Cheers for sure :salute:

ZW

[ZeeWolf]

Congrats, frinik, on the new puter.:woot:What are your system specs?:06:

I am having occasional "app crash" and "run-time" errors. It's not that often, but wondering if this is typical?:06:

Yeah that is typical. You see T vs T's missions are written is Java script and
therefore needs compiling of the scripts each time it runs a mission. The
result is binary files in the Cache folder. And here lies the conflict that is
most common. Now the other cause of this conflict is residual data in memory :yep:
that can be a source. But the clearing the Cache folder and/or after a
runtime error just start the program again clears it up.

Cheers,
ZeeWolf

[frinik]

Well Folks I had good and bad news:

The good news my graphic card a Nvidia GTX 230 is 2gigabytes dedicated instead of 1 gbs as I expected.:yeah:

The bad news is that the computer( an Acer) has been configured and I need a user name and password thus I'll have to call in the company to be able to get one to be able to use my new rig :wah:

Otherwise my other specs an Intel i7 860 processor with 2.8 gigahertz speed, 8 gigabytes of RAM , 2 gbs of dedicated graphic memory ddr2 and 1 terabyte(1000 gigabytes:D) of Hard disk space along with an Acer 24 '" inch screen with 2 built in 2watts speakers.... Stop drooling guys!:88).
All that for a very good price. I recommend the company; it's NCIX a US-based electronics wholesaler.

DB I can't compete with your 3 graphic cards but check your mirror I am right behind you on your tail;)...

Cheers

[morttheslayer]

Glad you got your new system Ok Frinic.
When I got my new ASUS notebook I had to enter the user name and password myself before it would activate. Note: I actually skipped the password bit as I will be the only user. Meaning really Mrs Panzer Commander is a bit of a computer numpty!!:haha: unlike me of course !!:har:

Win 7 seems keen to "help" you configure stuff but I found it a trifle dumbed down as you aren't expected to think ahead and anticipate any changes and settings! Hope you didn't get any preinstalled anti virus like I did. Gave me some problems until I got it all uninstalled and all traces removed. Overall though not too bad.

Nice processor you've got, I have an i5 but I think my "weak spot is the HDD speed of 5400rpm not 7200rpm. Balance that against my GPU with 1Gb of ram and its DDR3 and I've found Steel fury runs like a watch. I might try and see how TvsT runs on this later as an experiment. I really envy your screen size of 24inches - monster!

Like you I am installing and uninstalling stuff and checking backups. I will get rid of all the pre foundation issue stuff as it's confusing looking back through it all when you need any re-installs.

Best of luck let us all know how it runs the games! ATB - Morty :up:

[ZeeWolf]

Now the T34 Gun site is much more accurate then stock. Change also
the Gun site magnification so long distance targets have greater clarity.

The stock Gun Site range
http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_T34_GunSite_Fix1.jpg


T34 Gun site set at 1000 meters same test process as the Tiger

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_T34_GunSite_Fix2.jpg

As you can see right in there

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_T34_GunSite_Fix3.jpg


More to come Kamerads! :salute:

ZW

[Dung_Beetle]

Well Folks I had good and bad news:

The good news my graphic card a Nvidia GTX 230 is 2gigabytes dedicated instead of 1 gbs as I expected.:yeah:

The bad news is that the computer( an Acer) has been configured and I need a user name and password thus I'll have to call in the company to be able to get one to be able to use my new rig :wah:

Otherwise my other specs an Intel i7 860 processor with 2.8 gigahertz speed, 8 gigabytes of RAM , 2 gbs of dedicated graphic memory ddr2 and 1 terabyte(1000 gigabytes:D) of Hard disk space along with an Acer 24 '" inch screen with 2 built in 2watts speakers.... Stop drooling guys!:88).
All that for a very good price. I recommend the company; it's NCIX a US-based electronics wholesaler.

DB I can't compete with your 3 graphic cards but check your mirror I am right behind you on your tail;)...

Cheers


I see you in my mirror frinik; flashing your high-beams at me. I better flip the night mode on my rearview mirror.:rotfl2:

Nice system specs frinik.:rock:

I would add a nice speaker system to it: http://store.cambridgesoundworks.com/Cambridge-SoundWorks-Extreme-2.1-Multimedia-System/M/B0036UU14G.htm

You could not only flash your high-beams at me. You could annoy me with your loud subwoofer.:haha:

[Dung_Beetle]

You are killing me with this mod ZeeWolf. It looks great! :salute:

I've just been playing with the Tiger, and trying to get comfortable with it. The T34 feels natural to me; that is what I commanded mostly in Panzer Elite. I usually ran with 3 x T34/85 & 2 x Su122. That platoon configuration worked best for me.

I was wondering ZeeWolf if the PZ_mod is compatible with stock for multiplayer?:06:

Where do you guys play online?:06:

[ZeeWolf]

You are killing me with this mod ZeeWolf. It looks great! :salute:

I've just been playing with the Tiger, and trying to get comfortable with it. The T34 feels natural to me; that is what I commanded mostly in Panzer Elite. I usually ran with 3 x T34/85 & 2 x Su122. That platoon configuration worked best for me.

I was wondering ZeeWolf if the PZ_mod is compatible with stock for multiplayer?:06:

Where do you guys play online?:06:

The T34 has a better feel to it I agree but that is primarily due to less
attention to the tiger. I am working on improving the Tiger in every respect
first major change will com in a new Tiger model that will have a far better
exterior look when commanding and better textures etc. A new T34 85 is coming to that will replace the stock one.

As for multi-player that will be way down the road and any mods that are
not Project ZeeWolf mods will not work - non are compatible. That is highly
stressed. I am aware that can be a deal killer for some but that is ok,
this can not be a sim for everyone and be true to my vision, which is a WWII Tank simulation with a emphasis on as close to real as I can get.

Best regards, :salute:
ZeeWolf

[frinik]

Hi DB! Yes that blinding falsh of light are my high beams in your side mirrors....:D

Thanks for the info on the speakers.I'll defintely check it out. Nothing like realistic sound when playing.Can't wait to see my wife, kids and cat hitting the floor every time a shell crashes near my tank:arrgh!:.

Re multi player my advice to you is to have another, separate instal of TvsT with only the stock missions and instal the MPP5 ( multi player improvement mod I have been talking about).That wya you'll avoid incompatibility with ZW's mods.Contact Murkz( or PM him) .I know he checks the forum and he is the lead when it comes to MP play.I know they use Habachi for MP as it works far better than the game ranger system that comes with the game. I also know that German groups such as NSU and Francophone and Spanish groups as well. Since all of them use English as a common language and organise intra-groups macthes you could try googling to see how to join them.NSu has a dedicated website in both German and English

Cheers

[frinik]

Zee extraordinary dedication indeed. A born perfectionist!On behalf of all of us proud ZeeW members thank you!:up:

Yes Morty can't wait to be able to use new rig.Meanwhile made unsuccessful attempts to get user name and password for computer.Cause they didn't enter a default thing like Admin etc.No they actually entered a password and user-name at the factory where it was built somewhere in the People's ( ??????) Republic of China; the first country in the World to perfectly marry the worst of both world systems; Communist intolerance lovingly embracing Capitalist greed!!!!. :smug:


Anyway the retailer told me to deal directly with Acer and Acer told me to register first before they can help me.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAArrrrgh.I wish I were a hacker at times....You buy a damned thing and they almost ask for your cursed DNA sample ( they asked me my father's address????? I am 53 i.e. old enough to surf the internet without supervision I guess :06:???) before they allow you to use what YOUR money purchased!Bloody arrogant companies would need to be taught a lesson in humility and client service at times....

Enough ranting, enough steam blown.I'll plot my revenge and blow T34s instead. Same bunch of Reds anyway.:stare:GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...

[Dung_Beetle]

Zee extraordinary dedication indeed. A born perfectionist!On behalf of all of us proud ZeeW members thank you!:up:

Yes Morty can't wait to be able to use new rig.Meanwhile made unsuccessful attempts to get user name and password for computer.Cause they didn't enter a default thing like Admin etc.No they actually entered a password and user-name at the factory where it was built somewhere in the People's ( ??????) Republic of China; the first country in the World to perfectly marry the worst of both world systems; Communist intolerance lovingly embracing Capitalist greed!!!!. :smug:


Anyway the retailer told me to deal directly with Acer and Acer told me to register first before they can help me.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAArrrrgh.I wish I were a hacker at times....You buy a damned thing and they almost ask for your cursed DNA sample ( they asked me my father's address????? I am 53 i.e. old enough to surf the internet without supervision I guess :06:???) before they allow you to use what YOUR money purchased!Bloody arrogant companies would need to be taught a lesson in humility and client service at times....

Enough ranting, enough steam blown.I'll plot my revenge and blow T34s instead. Same bunch of Reds anyway.:stare:GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...

Sounds like somebody RMA'd that system before you got it.:hmmm:

Hell frinik, I'd just mail it back to them. I don't know what the return policy is... In the first 30 days, you should be able to return it, and dispute it with your credit card if need be.:damn:

I got a really nice i7 board, that I RMA'd back, in the day, when I had money. It's just sitting in the closet. It sells for $322.00 at newegg new. It has gulftown support. Just got to update the bios, and you'd be ready for that X980.:yeah: Then with a GTX480 you could just slip into the next gear, and pass me bye.:haha:

Thanks for the mp advice. I'll check it out!

[Scott Kevill]

I know they use Habachi for MP as it works far better than the game ranger system that comes with the game.

Just to clarify, it's GameSpy Arcade that comes with the game and is completely broken (and presumably Hamachi that you're referring to).

I did add T34 vs Tiger support to GameRanger a little later after its release, which was being used by some groups, but there was a limit to how much I could do without the support of the game developer due to UI bugs in the game.

[Dung_Beetle]

I downloaded and installed MMP 5.0, and love the new sound compared to the stock game.:woot:

I tried to find players, 8:00 pm Central Standard Time, on Game Ranger. I had no luck.:cry:

frinik, I shouldn't have said that your new computer was an RMA'd one. I've been building my own for so long... I open my hatch to much!:doh:

Well going to do some tanking with the new mod. I wish I was playing Project_ZW; since, I'm going to play offline.:salute:

[Dung_Beetle]

I don't see any smoke options available in TvsT. Having a smoke screen is an essential tactic.:hmmm:

Are the maps more sophisticated in Project_ZW?:06:

Don't get me wrong there is a lot to love in this sim, but so much essential stuff has been left out.:-?

wingman commands
large scale maps
smoke options
zoom
tank variety
vehicle variety
multi-core support would be nice

ZeeWolf, can't you buy the wrights to the game, rework it, and resell it.:rotfl2:

[frinik]

Db don't worry about the RMA which stands for remanufactured????May be you are right.I spent 2 frustrating hours with Acer support based in India,.Another glory of outsourcing....:dead:.In the end couldn't make the computer start so they'll have to send me a recovery disk( for free they said as if it were some kind of freebie I ought to be grateful for:down:).Som another 2 to 3 weeks before I get.Meanwhile a brand new machine sitting idle.....It's like buying a Mercedes then being told Oh by the way we 'll mail the keys to you.Expect to wait another 3 weeks before you can drive your car GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR....

Ok enough grumbling and ranting.Re Tvst yes it's hamachi not habachi.I don't play MP so couldn't remember.I also installed the MMp 5.0 before having Zee's mod and I also loved the sounds and the better reload rates.

As I said Tvst was an orphan until Good Papa Zee came along and adopted him.This shows that not all Wolves eat poor little orphans unlike in the fairy tales....:D

This is why after playing TvsT fervently for 6 to 7 months after I bought it I just dropped it as it was flawed and without support.I started playing and enjoying Steel Fury which had everything Tvst ddin't have atmosphere, good AI, variety mods, and full support from its' developers.

This is also why I bought into Zee Wolf's project because he had adopted that game.

MP-wise it might be wise to contact Murkz as he is very active in multi play.There was also Monkwarrior, a Belgian guy who co developed the MMP3 to 5 mods and unfortunately died a couple of months ago.

Anyway I am sure you can find other players in MP>

Once my rig is up and running we will do tank races...:sunny:

[morttheslayer]

Sorry to hear your bad start, very frustrating, I also had a few glitches and had to re-install the Asus installed Win7 prog. I backed up the reinstall on DVD in case of future problems and it took FOUR yes 4 discs!!!. Damn thing (Win7 home) comes with MS Office that you have to "buy" an activation key to enable - I didn't, so it bloats the system unnecessarily I think!!
Looks like they are reverting you back to square one with a recovery disc. Hopefuly this will sort the problem and you will be able to enter your own details yourself after recovery - best of luck mate.
All the Best - Mort :salute:

[morttheslayer]

Zee - you must be psychic, I'm a torpedoman now!!!:D
How did you know I've just ordered Silent Hunter 4 Gold!!!!!! :arrgh!:
You're amazing :har:

Mrs Panzer Commander made a small whimpering noise when I informed her how much of a bargain it was!! She's been trying to get me to decorate the house for the last 5 years!!
I feel I might have to incorporate some home improvements into the Simulation programme or risk a "woman overboard" !!!!:haha:

Over and Out - Mort
Apologies for going right off topic!!!:salute:

[ZeeWolf]

Zee - you must be psychic, I'm a torpedoman now!!!:D
How did you know I've just ordered Silent Hunter 4 Gold!!!!!! :arrgh!:
You're amazing :har:

Mrs Panzer Commander made a small whimpering noise when I informed her how much of a bargain it was!! She's been trying to get me to decorate the house for the last 5 years!!
I feel I might have to incorporate some home improvements into the Simulation programme or risk a "woman overboard" !!!!:haha:

Over and Out - Mort
Apologies for going right off topic!!!:salute:

:har: Morty what can I say man? What, a Christmas tree isn't decorating the house any more? What the hell is this world coming to! :o
On the other hand, maybe it might be time to take Mrs Panzer Commander out for a pizza. :yep: Romance and smooth sailing go together like bread
and butter.

ZW

[Dung_Beetle]

I keep getting killed in, the Hill 500, mission. I can't kill those last two tanks.

I need smoke to protect the column, and have to use that, high arcing, crappy ammo, 0365.

I'm starting to get tinnitus from the constant shell ejection. :88)

I'm really starting to love this game.:DL

[ZeeWolf]

I keep getting killed in, the Hill 500, mission. I can't kill those last two tanks.

I need smoke to protect the column, and have to use that, high arcing, crappy ammo, 0365.

I'm starting to get tinnitus from the constant shell ejection. :88)

I'm really starting to love this game.:DL




You have to escort the column, after you take out their immediate threat.
When you see the valley off the road on your left take it to move concealed until close enough to blast them.:up:

ZeeWolf

[frinik]

Zee I tried that tactic ( escorting the column) and I alwys ended up destroyed.My own experience form playing that mission hundreds of times( I am not exaggerating)is that it's best to back your Tiger next to the left log cabin right behind where you start the mission and take the T34s coming to the left and front and then move forward a bit until you see those 2 T34s - ambushed to the far right -waiting for the column to pass on the road.I take them out from a distance and then deal with the last 2 remaining T34/76 concealed in a sort of depression further up to the left.It's the only way I have been able to complete the mission successfully.I am talking, of course, about the stock TvsT Hill 500 mission not the one nicely modified by ZW's mods :up:

[ZeeWolf]

Zee I tried that tactic ( escorting the column) and I alwys ended up destroyed.My own experience form playing that mission hundreds of times( I am not exaggerating)is that it's best to back your Tiger next to the left log cabin right behind where you start the mission and take the T34s coming to the left and front and then move forward a bit until you see those 2 T34s - ambushed to the far right -waiting for the column to pass on the road.I take them out from a distance and then deal with the last 2 remaining T34/76 concealed in a sort of depression further up to the left.It's the only way I have been able to complete the mission successfully.I am talking, of course, about the stock TvsT Hill 500 mission not the one nicely modified by ZW's mods :up:

Thanks frinik I'll give that a shot too. :up:

Cheers :salute:

ZW

[Dung_Beetle]

Zee I tried that tactic ( escorting the column) and I alwys ended up destroyed.My own experience form playing that mission hundreds of times( I am not exaggerating)is that it's best to back your Tiger next to the left log cabin right behind where you start the mission and take the T34s coming to the left and front and then move forward a bit until you see those 2 T34s - ambushed to the far right -waiting for the column to pass on the road.I take them out from a distance and then deal with the last 2 remaining T34/76 concealed in a sort of depression further up to the left.It's the only way I have been able to complete the mission successfully.I am talking, of course, about the stock TvsT Hill 500 mission not the one nicely modified by ZW's mods :up:


I usually hang, in a depression, against the bank, to the left of the cabin like you do. I always lose the column, and manage to get all, but the last one or two tanks. I'll try your method, and hopefully, I'll have some success.:rock:

[frinik]

DB once you buy into ZeeWolf's mod you'll see how HIll 500 is changed.Before youi can onyl count on yourself as your fellow German tanks/SP guns are inept and get killed in the few few minutes of the mission leaving you pretty much alone to deal with 15 or so Sov.tanks and SUs.Once you install ZW's mods it changes the behaviour of the AI which means your fellow German AI is active and kills a lot of the Soviet AI.Leaving you with fairly few targets and much less pressure.You get the mission successful fairly routinely whereas in the stock game you have to rally find the magic recipe and be lucky or uncannily accurate in your shooting to make it through the mission.The change in AI behaviour applies to all missions once ZW mods are installed

Cheers

[Dung_Beetle]

DB once you buy into ZeeWolf's mod you'll see how HIll 500 is changed.Before youi can onyl count on yourself as your fellow German tanks/SP guns are inept and get killed in the few few minutes of the mission leaving you pretty much alone to deal with 15 or so Sov.tanks and SUs.Once you install ZW's mods it changes the behaviour of the AI which means your fellow German AI is active and kills a lot of the Soviet AI.Leaving you with fairly few targets and much less pressure.You get the mission successful fairly routinely whereas in the stock game you have to rally find the magic recipe and be lucky or uncannily accurate in your shooting to make it through the mission.The change in AI behaviour applies to all missions once ZW mods are installed

Cheers

Thanks frinik,

I wish you could customize the loadouts; that would help a lot in missions like this. I can't kill anything with that o365 crap. 7 direct hits before I got lucky, and hit the fuel tank on a T34/85

I can't wait till have some cash to buy ZeeWolfs mod. ZeeWolf you could possibly sell more units; if you sold it for $20.00. I remember my economics class example of the motel; that sold 1 room for $120.00 and sold 5 rooms for $80.00. It was some crap like that, but the point is more units sold brings in more gross income; which yields higer profits.

Not that your stuff isn't worth $60.00, but there are probably a lot of people like me who want to buy it, but just can't afford it, yet.

[frinik]

O365???You're shooting T34s with Soviet shells????You mean Panzergranate 39:06:.... But it's not the shells that are ineffective int he stck game.It's the tanks that are not up to real data specs. My suspicion is because TvsT was primarily intended as a multi player game the developpers decided to balance the tanks to make them more or less even so not everybody would pick the Tiger.So what they did is decrease the reload rate of the Tiger( which MPP5 addressed by increasing it based on real data.) and somehow they either decreased the strength or thickness of the Tiger armour or increased that of the T34 to balance the odds and make the game more even.Once you have ZeeWolf's mod installed you'll see the difference; you'll kill those T34s with one or 2 shots instead of 3,4 5 as now.


Re Zee's fee .I can't speak for him but remember it's a one man enterprise.He'd rather have less members and charge more than reduce the price and have hundreds or thousands of people depending on him.Plus by charging more he is sifting or selecting his members. He figures that if you are willing to pay his fee you must be committed and truly interested in the game.Not necessarily a bad decision.:sunny:

[Dung_Beetle]

O365???You're shooting T34s with Soviet shells????You mean Panzergranate 39:06:.... But it's not the shells that are ineffective int he stck game.It's the tanks that are not up to real data specs. My suspicion is because TvsT was primarily intended as a multi player game the developpers decided to balance the tanks to make them more or less even so not everybody would pick the Tiger.So what they did is decrease the reload rate of the Tiger( which MPP5 addressed by increasing it based on real data.) and somehow they either decreased the strength or thickness of the Tiger armour or increased that of the T34 to balance the odds and make the game more even.Once you have ZeeWolf's mod installed you'll see the difference; you'll kill those T34s with one or 2 shots instead of 3,4 5 as now.


Re Zee's fee .I can't speak for him but remember it's a one man enterprise.He'd rather have less members and charge more than reduce the price and have hundreds or thousands of people depending on him.Plus by charging more he is sifting or selecting his members. He figures that if you are willing to pay his fee you must be committed and truly interested in the game.Not necessarily a bad decision.:sunny:

100's or 1000's x $60.00. I bet ZeeWolf would like to see that kind of money coming in. Also, a large fan base would help with the work.

I am definetly a tanker at heart, but, really, seriously, can't afford it, yet. It's just not in the cards for me. So, he is also blocking truly dedicated people from joining. Just my thoughts, jealous of all you ZW_modders. driving around in your fancy tanks.:rotfl2:

[frinik]

DB none of us is a modder.We are just dedicated members .We help him but in a limited way by providing feedback and acting as testers when we have pcs that actually can play his mods-releases with sufficient specs.

As for the fee better ask him because he´s the one who decides and I am just assuming that for the time being he prefers having a limited member base rather thna going all out for a huge crowd which would overtax his physical resources.:yep:

[KdF]

I run 2 forms of the game on my Machines. First is Zeewolfs, and then a stock copy with Monks MMP Mod 5.0. Monks incorporates the better engine sounds, correct load-outs, gears and trajectories for each tank. I never had a problem beating Hill 500, but I never hide in the gullies, I sit on top of the hill to the left, which gives me a full view of the battlefield, just have to make each shot count, as you can run out of ammo fast, and then you never get the 2 sissies hiding in the far gully.:rock:

[frinik]

I tried hiding behind that hill or even on top of it, hiding behind the trees and after killing 5 or 6 tanks I would end up being killed thanks to the X ray vision of the AI in the stock game.Once or twice I managed to finish the mission successfully by backi ng my Tiger all the way back to the thicket of woods just behind that road and then circling back around it to kill that last 2 tanks however I did not manage to save the whole convoy.Another time I sat behind a small ridge in front of a log cabin to the right of where you start the game and concealed by a shrub I klled 11 tanks and 3 of the 4 SUs stationed atop that buff .But I got clobbered and a managed to survive 13 hits. Did not get the 2 tanks hiding in that ravine as my Tiger was crippled but still got , surprisingly, a mission ended successfully message.

[KdF]

I wish there was a way to make a video of that mission, as to show ya what I do. After I found out on the last stock mission to let the first colum pass by, I actually finish that one also, so many tricks to this game, and without each others suggestions, no wonder this game had a hard time catching on with others. Daunting unless you know what to do, and when.

[Dung_Beetle]

frinik, I didn't mean to imply that you were all modders, but I did mean that you are driving around in luxury tanks, and I want one.:wah:

I did mean to say, and did, I think, that more fans might bring more help...:rock:

Maybe he could offer a sweat-equity deal for people like me; who are unemployed.:06:
Maybe, I could do some mundane task to pay-off my ZW_Project.:hmmm:

This is probably giving ZW a head-ache.:)

DB

[frinik]

DB, I understand how you feel Man.I was unemployed for almost 18 months and I remember how tough it was not being able to afford things I wanted and seeing others being able to afford them.Without my parents to help me it would have been even tougher.I remember those days and treasure them as a reminder just in case I take things I have for granted. Yes truly this is a luxury when you're out of work.I sincerely hope you can find gainful employment soon.

As for those who work and complain about the price I say how much does it cost you to fill your car tank?In the States probably close to $ 60 depending on the vehicle you drive.In Western Europe even more close to double.Just to drive around and then once the fuel has been used soemtimes after barely 2 weeks you have to pay another similar amount!!!! With ZeeWolf's mod for that price you get a game that remains with you for months or years to enjoy.Or go to the cinema these days and how much you pay for a film, parking fees, popcorn and soft drink for just 2 hours of entertainment.When it comes to money it's a matter of priorities.

Re ZeeWolf's fees I cannot speak for him.he is the master of his ship and those decisions are for him alone to make. AS I said PM him he always answers people frankly and he is a very nice and friendly guy!

Best of luck!:rock:

[Dung_Beetle]

DB, I understand how you feel Man.I was unemployed for almost 18 months and I remember how tough it was not being able to afford things I wanted and seeing others being able to afford them.Without my parents to help me it would have been even tougher.I remember those days and treasure them as a reminder just in case I take things I have for granted. Yes truly this is a luxury when you're out of work.I sincerely hope you can find gainful employment soon.

As for those who work and complain about the price I say how much does it cost you to fill your car tank?In the States probably close to $ 60 depending on the vehicle you drive.In Western Europe even more close to double.Just to drive around and then once the fuel has been used soemtimes after barely 2 weeks you have to pay another similar amount!!!! With ZeeWolf's mod for that price you get a game that remains with you for months or years to enjoy.Or go to the cinema these days and how much you pay for a film, parking fees, popcorn and soft drink for just 2 hours of entertainment.When it comes to money it's a matter of priorities.

Re ZeeWolf's fees I cannot speak for him.he is the master of his ship and those decisions are for him alone to make. AS I said PM him he always answers people frankly and he is a very nice and friendly guy!

Best of luck!:rock:

I totally agree with you, but I am making a purely economic argument. Not an argument of the merits of his work.:timeout:

If you lower the price; then demand will increase. There are some examples on this page: http://www.investopedia.com/university/economics/economics3.asp:know:


This is not in anyway a criticism of ZW_Project. I honestly think he could do better for himself; if he lowered the price. Not to mention, I could buy it sooner; if it was priced lower.:yeah:

[Priscalan]

:salute:hello everybody,
I'm back after a few days of renovation and a move for my daughter ... what's new or as G. Clooney: What else?

[ZeeWolf]

Well Kamerads,
I am delighted to tell you that adding and tweaking trees and bushes is now
fully possible. This includes the wind effects and shadow as well as new tree
textures. So if you have any images of tree types that should be in an area
of operation please let me see them. Or any SpeedTree CAD files that you want in the game let me check them out. The adding of SpeedTree files
needs to be build from existing T34vsTiger trees but the parameters and
textures can be easily adopted.

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_Forest_1.jpg

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_Forest_2.jpg

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_Forest_3.jpg

Vorwärts Kameraden! :salute:

ZW

[Priscalan]

Well done Zeewolf, :salute:
I would love to help but all I need to understand the editor. Could you give me a leaflet. some elements are not implemented in, and the study of the editor in a language that is not mine is very long ...:hmmm:

[frinik]

Zee I didn't know you had found a new outlet for your talents? Landscaping?How about opening your own nursery????:D

So it's Tree 34 versus Tiger again....

I think it would be nice to have a variety of trees.It seems that the trees are exclusively pine trees and evergreens in the game. As Operation Bagration, on which TvsT is based, took place mostly in Belarus( then Bielorussia) and Northern Ukraine I think trees species native to those areas like birches, maples, ash trees,willows, poplars, oaks etc would be nice to add a bit of variety to the landscapes.

[ZeeWolf]

Zee I didn't know you had found a new outlet for your talents? Landscaping?How about opening your own nursery????:D

So it's Tree 34 versus Tiger again....

I think it would be nice to have a variety of trees.It seems that the trees are exclusively pine trees and evergreens in the game. As Operation Bagration, on which TvsT is based, took place mostly in Belarus( then Bielorussia) and Northern Ukraine I think trees species native to those areas like birches, maples, ash trees,willows, poplars, oaks etc would be nice to add a bit of variety to the landscapes.

:haha: I like that frinik,
Of course the tree issue is no small enhancement for future plans in two
important categories, one is new battlefield locations and two is seasonal
change. This is one area I really was counting on opening up. The extent
however goes beyond anything I had hoped for, truly an amazing level
of scope and artistic quality now can be archived. A very good thing :up:
And thanks Priscalan, cridit goes to you for the inspiration.

Cheers!:salute:

ZW

[Dung_Beetle]

Success on Hill 500

OK, here is how I did it:

1. I put my Tiger in VIII gear, and at close to 40 mph; I take my tiger up the NW valley. I drive through the 3 oncoming T34's with my barrel pointed in the 6 o'clock position. As soon as I pass them I stop, and kill them at point-blank range.

2. I proceed up the hill, and Blast the Su85's.

3. I take out the next wave of 3 T34's coming out of the NW valley.

4. I drove over the hill with the smoked SU85's, and come out behind the
2 T34's in the N valley.

5. I creep up on the 2 T34's sitting on the road where the column was heading. Needless to say the column was collateral damage.


And yes I have way too much time on my hands:rotfl2:

DB

[ZeeWolf]

Success on Hill 500

OK, here is how I did it:

1. I put my Tiger in VIII gear, and at close to 40 mph; I take my tiger up the NW valley. I drive through the 3 oncoming T34's with my barrel pointed in the 6 o'clock position. As soon as I pass them I stop, and kill them at point-blank range.

2. I proceed up the hill, and Blast the Su85's.

3. I take out the next wave of 3 T34's coming out of the NW valley.

4. I drove over the hill with the smoked SU85's, and come out behind the
2 T34's in the N valley.

5. I creep up on the 2 T34's sitting on the road where the column was heading. Needless to say the column was collateral damage.


And yes I have way too much time on my hands:rotfl2:

DB

Wow! It's - Dung "John Wayne" Beetle :haha:

Onwards!
ZeeWolf

[frinik]

Sure DB it's easy for you to do with 3 graphic cards working in sync those T34 have no time to shoot or catch up with you...:D

We on the other hand with lesser specs have to plough the fields to get there.

I guess you were driving automatic otherwise you would have burnt your engine....

It's good to have time on your hands later when you get a job you'll be missing those precious free moments.Enjoy them while they last!:yeah:

[Dung_Beetle]

Sure DB it's easy for you to do with 3 graphic cards working in sync those T34 have no time to shoot or catch up with you...:D

We on the other hand with lesser specs have to plough the fields to get there.

I guess you were driving automatic otherwise you would have burnt your engine....

It's good to have time on your hands later when you get a job you'll be missing those precious free moments.Enjoy them while they last!:yeah:


I swaggered out there quickly, and shut off the engine, before switching to the gunner position.:rock: I didn't know there was an automatic in the Tiger.:o

It's a poor carpenter who blames his tools, frinik.:rotfl2:

[frinik]

Yes DB check your menu and your press a key( I can't remember which one since I have set up my game to drive automatic).Then you start the engine, just switch gears and then you simply steer your tank while staying in external view(F6).Whatever sim I play I like to drive in automatic and look at the landscape while peering for enemy tanks...:shucks:

Cheers

[jaggy]

Hi, Zeewolf

Is it possible to implement a range estimation feature where your tank commander in outside binocular view can right-click on a target and it displays a range to the target. In reality the tank commander inform the gunner of the range, so if this feature is possible to implement, it would increase the realism even more, and help save expending ammo ranging for the target. Just a suggestion. Thanks in advance. :)

[ZeeWolf]

Hi, Zeewolf

Is it possible to implement a range estimation feature where your tank commander in outside binocular view can right-click on a target and it displays a range to the target. In reality the tank commander inform the gunner of the range, so if this feature is possible to implement, it would increase the realism even more, and help save expending ammo ranging for the target. Just a suggestion. Thanks in advance. :)

Hi Jaggy, I intend to eliminate the commanders range calls and move to training to range find like the Germans did it in a separate training mission. They used the lens reticule that had triangles that aided in range calculation I will provide more info on this later so you will see what I mean. Cheers ZeeWolf

[morttheslayer]

Hi Zee like the idea of seasonal changes in landscape for the future anyway - v.nice.

I'm hanging around --- but not idly!! Mrs PC has made me decorate the house. A project avoided for 9 years but now retired I've been caught in the barbed wire :wah: So I get a games fix now and then, between coats of paint.

Still listening out though!!

Peter Sellers ---- on painting:

"Vinston Churchill vas a painter? Ja, but no good!!

Adolf Hitler? Ja He Vas a real Painter:
one apartment two coats four hours!!":haha:

[ZeeWolf]

Hi Zee like the idea of seasonal changes in landscape for the future anyway - v.nice.

I'm hanging around --- but not idly!! Mrs PC has made me decorate the house. A project avoided for 9 years but now retired I've been caught in the barbed wire :wah: So I get a games fix now and then, between coats of paint.

Still listening out though!!

Peter Sellers ---- on painting:

"Vinston Churchill vas a painter? Ja, but no good!!

Adolf Hitler? Ja He Vas a real Painter:
one apartment two coats four hours!!":haha:

Hi Morty,
Glad to hear your taking care of your little Gal :salute:
As for me I've been working for the last few days trying to get Google
to lift the warning of mal-ware and viruses on my web site. :damn:
been a pain figuring out what the hell to do - but I think the problems
have finally been resolved.:yep:

Best regards Mate :up:

ZW

[morttheslayer]

Thanks Zee
Paintbrush in one hand and brain in the other!! just wanted to say I liked the new May missions especially the mass attack, my downside as others found (German Mission 4) was lowest FPS was 3.4 (very stuttery) improved when I switched views to commanders F5 but it was a bit heavy for my PC until a few T34s and SP guns had been "harvested". Nice change to be able to enjoy some night action, would think any difficult missions would be checkmated by limitations in graphics for "player" targetting though. Nice to see the Tigers "earthbound" and not elevated like we're viewing the game after eating "Magic mushrooms".

I knew Lc would be about in that night mission - he never sleeps. :haha:

You will notice I'm late commenting on the May missions but it would be out of character to be anything else now!!
BTW Zee my little Gal ain't so little anymore and she ain't no Gal either - BUT she's all mine :wah:
If she sees this I will have a retrofitted paintbrush somewhere "up" me!! All the best

Mort :salute:

[ZeeWolf]

Thanks Zee
Paintbrush in one hand and brain in the other!! just wanted to say I liked the new May missions especially the mass attack, my downside as others found (German Mission 4) was lowest FPS was 3.4 (very stuttery) improved when I switched views to commanders F5 but it was a bit heavy for my PC until a few T34s and SP guns had been "harvested". Nice change to be able to enjoy some night action, would think any difficult missions would be checkmated by limitations in graphics for "player" targetting though. Nice to see the Tigers "earthbound" and not elevated like we're viewing the game after eating "Magic mushrooms".

I knew Lc would be about in that night mission - he never sleeps. :haha:

You will notice I'm late commenting on the May missions but it would be out of character to be anything else now!!
BTW Zee my little Gal ain't so little anymore and she ain't no Gal either - BUT she's all mine :wah:
If she sees this I will have a retrofitted paintbrush somewhere "up" me!! All the best

Mort :salute:

Thanks Morty,
I'll get the Gun site range fix out to you as soon as I have a few more updates to go with it (like more trees, etc). About your wife, you say she
ain't no Gal but praise God she ain't no Guy either :haha:
It's been kinda quite lately, I hope it is because everyone is playing TvT :DL
And yes, the night mission is a true night mission too I'm sure LC will make
us all proud. :up:

Vorwärts Kameraden! :salute:

ZW

[frinik]

Zee, the night mission is quite stunning with the bright and beautiful full moon.I have a technical question related to it.How did you get that full moon into the mission?Was it a lot of work to put it there?:sunny:

Hi Morty; how much are you willing to pay us so we don't leak your latest post to your GAL????:D I am sure being retrofitted with a paintbrush somewhere up is going to be more painful than any alms you'd be willing to fork out?????:smug:

Lc will probably use the full moon to romance a grey mouse....:|\\

Cheers

[ZeeWolf]

Zee, the night mission is quite stunning with the bright and beautiful full moon.I have a technical question related to it.How did you get that full moon into the mission?Was it a lot of work to put it there?:sunny:

Hi Morty; how much are you willing to pay us so we don't leak your latest post to your GAL????:D I am sure being retrofitted with a paintbrush somewhere up is going to be more painful than any alms you'd be willing to fork out?????:smug:

Lc will probably use the full moon to romance a grey mouse....:|\\

Cheers

:haha: Poor Morty!

The full moon is part of the Sky image used. The technical part is the
aligning the the Sky image with the light direction and the color adjustment
of the fog and light as well as intensity settings. Easy as painting by numbers. :DL

Cheers:salute:
ZW

[ZeeWolf]

Sunrise over Dubrova...

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k442/autopilot_2008/ZW_SunRise.jpg

Kameraden Erwachen! :salute:

ZW

[Hitman]

Beautiful :yeah:

You are God sent Zee, I can't beleive what you have done with the old dog :|\\

[frinik]

I told you he is Leonardo da VinZee :|\\ or is it Michel AnZeelo?:hmmm:

Lovely work Zee! Can´t wait to see battlefield with mist or even those looming dark stormy skies that you posted in one of your early posts about Kursk.

What are you working on these days besides heavenly designs?????Please don´t tell us that you´ve become one of those wandering French artist who suddenly struck by a Muse left everything and found inspiration on some forgotten South pacific heaven surrounded by Hula-Hula girls.Next we´ll see paintings of you depictings Tiger camouflaged with banana leaves or even worse you´ll be painting our Tigers with stripes and surrounded by howling monkeys....

Cheers:salute:

[Dung_Beetle]

See if you can paint a tiger to camouflage with these young ladies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Paul_Gauguin_-_Deux_Tahitiennes.jpg

[ZeeWolf]

Hey Guys
I did take a few days off but I back in full production. :up:
I solved a couple of issues, one was the AI Tigers moving with destroyed
track and the other was a mistake I did with the Missions Menu.
Also I've been digging up battle details that involved Tigers that will be the
bases of new Campaigns and missions. This research has taken a solid week
of some real fun stuff. Things like locating the digital elevation data the
will be used to create the new maps that will make the terrain as authentic
as possible. And of course maps and unit histories that I will incorporate
at a playable level and still attempt to hold true to the event.
There is a strong possibility that the first winter battle will take place in
February 44 at Korsun west of Chercassy. A ferocious battle that I am
still doing research on that is sure to be awesome. There it said the JS-2s
attacked in numbers. So that's something to look forward to.
The Kursk Mission #2 is coming along nicely and you are sure to notice a
few changes, for instance the swamp effect it just about a thing of the past
but will still dog the slower computers. The FPS are less of an issue in this
mission compared to #1.
Meanwhile I will keep you posted on it's completion with some more screen
shots.
Cheers:salute:

ZW

[frinik]

DB MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! I like their camo very ...natural, very simple.But I am afraid the only shells these 2 have ever seen are those you comb on a beach and as for the tanks only those used for scuba diving.Thanks for the thought though!:D


Good news Zee about Cherkassy-Korsun.Is it when you are going to introduce the IS(JS)2 as a playable tank?Not a bad tank if you make exception of the low shell load( 28 including only 8 AT ones), the abysmal reload rate( 3 shots a minute) and the terrible Soviet optics...:smug:

[ZeeWolf]

DB MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! I like their camo very ...natural, very simple.But I am afraid the only shells these 2 have ever seen are those you comb on a beach and as for the tanks only those used for scuba diving.Thanks for the thought though!:D


Good news Zee about Cherkassy-Korsun.Is it when you are going to introduce the IS(JS)2 as a playable tank?Not a bad tank if you make exception of the low shell load( 28 including only 8 AT ones), the abysmal reload rate( 3 shots a minute) and the terrible Soviet optics...:smug:

Cherkassy-Korsun is still in the very first stage of development but I would
like to have the JS-2 (AI) included for sure. The work on playable units has had a low priority while I work on and improve on the exiting Playable units
and terrain and all else that needs the ZW touch so-to-speak :DL

And DB you definitely got to be a old man:haha:

Onwards!
ZW

[Dung_Beetle]

DB MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! I like their camo very ...natural, very simple.But I am afraid the only shells these 2 have ever seen are those you comb on a beach and as for the tanks only those used for scuba diving.Thanks for the thought though!:D


Good news Zee about Cherkassy-Korsun.Is it when you are going to introduce the IS(JS)2 as a playable tank?Not a bad tank if you make exception of the low shell load( 28 including only 8 AT ones), the abysmal reload rate( 3 shots a minute) and the terrible Soviet optics...:smug:

Glad you like the art from Gauguin. It was Gauguin that went to the South Pacific. He was friends with Vincent Van Gogh.
They were from the 19th century, and I think Leonardo da Vinci & Michelangelo were from the 15th century.:know:

The masters would be proud of your work ZW:rock:

I use a lot of impressionist art for my desktop wallpaper.:sunny:

[ZeeWolf]

Thanks DB
Don't forget Arno Brekker the one I would say comes close in skill to Angelo.
Of course he's on the mandatory "Hate list" for being a Nazi. But I don't
care about his politics I think he was a fantastic artist.

Vorwärts! :salute:

ZeeWolf

[frinik]

Hi DB, I know Gauguin was the one who went from Brtittany to the South Pacific where he allegedly fathered several children with local Tahitian women.As a French Impressionist he lived in the mid to late 19th century and I think he died in the early 1900s.Da Vinci straddled both the 15th and 16th century while MichelAngelo lived in the 16tH. I find the Impressionists a bit too focussed on the aesthetic too lofty a times I prefer the Pointillists or Divisionists, as they are also called, like Signac, Seurat and Cross.Now a Tiger tank painted by Seurat would have been fantastic....:up:

Arno Brekker was a good artist unfortunately he was conscripted into making those pseudo classical statues and art that Hitler seem to favour.Hitler wanted to build a new Rome and he succeeded but unfortunately for Germany it was the Rome destroyed by the Vandals that Hitler bequested to the German people.:down:

[LcSummers]

Hi Panzerkameraden,

first of all i am back. I am very often at my gym manipulator. Now its 3 weeks ago and i have thrown away my crutches. It s a kind of freedom after being 3 months in a kind of imprissionment. I can go outside and sniffing into the world. I know i am humbling but this doesnt mater. Now i am free. Cool.

I read a little bit what happend here in the forum. ZW i must say i am very pleased by that May release. It is really fún and you have made a great job.

Looking at the other shots taken from "your" game is a real improvment in any sence and case made by your hard work. Looking forward but if you do so much nice envirionment it is possible for me to forget the battle crawling outside my tank a make a sight, i mean treeseeing.

Very nice sunrise.

Just one question. What about fps? Any improvments?


For all tankers a nice week


LC



PS: i am sleeping at nights too:yawn:

[Dung_Beetle]

I myself love the impressionist painters: Cezanne, Van Gogh, Gauguin, Monet, Matisse, and the like. I think ZW should paint a tank in the impressionist style.:rotfl2:

OK, guys I got a job, I am relocating, so you may not hear from me for awhile, but I should be back soon. Hopefully, I'll make enough to contribute to the ZW_Project, but don't hold your breath. I've got a lot of catching up to do, and whole bunch of new expenses. Plus, the job is only temporary and not a great one at that.:rock:

See you on the other side, I'm packing my computer up now. This is the last computer action before it goes in the box.:zzz:

Over and Out:salute:

DB

[frinik]

Good luck DB looking foward to hearing from you!

Don´t forget to stay in touch!

Don´t forget Sisley, Odile Redon and Manet ( my own favourite especially his painting of Camille, his defunct wife, on her death bed.Very moving.

Cheers:salute: