Silent Hunter 4 patch v1.3: Where? When? What?

[Bungo_Pete]

I have'nt touched this game since the ...alleged patches WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND WE KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE!.Rest assured you will not see a penny from me ever again if you insist on not living up to..i.e supporting a 50$ piece of software that you purported on us!:down:

[SoCalLefty]

Having purchased the complete series of this simulation, my loyalty as a buyer of Ubisoft software will be sorely tested if patch v1.3 doesn't materialize.

[jarmstro]

I agree that the game needs futher work.

[Bungo_Pete]

Quick someone lookup "purported"..I think I might have "popped a boner" with that one:huh:

[BlueSabor]

Ubisoft, your DEV team has created the most visually stunning sub sim ever, but patch 1.3 is necessary to allow them to fix some critical bugs that are still present in the game.

Please don't quit on the game now. You're so close to producing something really special. Give these Guys one more patch to fix this game, and let us all be proud of Silent Hunter 4.

Thanks,

Terry

I totally agree. :yep:

[Wilko]

I'm waiting to see what happens before buying SH4, please patch it :yep:

[Marcador]

So ubi, there you have it:

This community has been your link to your customers' opinions.

This community has also prolonged your products' (SH2,SH3) shelf life over and over again, because of all the countless hours of work that was spent by the modders to whom we all owe so much.

If you should be willing to honour these brave people, you ought to publish this patch.

Moreover, this is the chance to re-establish some goodwill, that UBI has clearly lost since the publication of SH4 with all its bugs (...and no, I'm neither flaming nor griping, I'm stating facts - read the threads).

I think we all love a good subsim, and we see the potential in SH4.
All we ask for is a little co-operation, that allows us to stay loyal to it.

my personal hope is that UBI will react - in any form - to show us that they still know we exist, and that they still take their customers' voices seriously.

@ Subsim: Thank you so much for putting out this petition! It's about time someone becomes active!!!

[Tachyon]

Whatever Neal said.
Ubisoft, please release that patch ASAP so I can finally buy the game, I've been hearing all sorts of stories about SH4. :down:

[Malc]

I currently own SHII and SHIII but havn't managed to exhaust their full potential as I don't have much time these days for PC gaming, but having seen the video's etc of SHIV I was really tempted to get that as well, just based on the graphics. However I then started to read the reviews and comments here and have held off adding SHIV to my collection. We're used to Microsoft rushing a product to market and then sorting out the bugs, but I wouldn't of thought UBI would follow suit !

I could understand it if the bugs were things that the development team could not of predicted, such as some issues with obsquire graphics card or chipset, but it seems that the bugs are gaps left by the programmers, or where the new coding simply hasn't been tested 100% to make sure it works.

Based on the comments here I don't think I will be adding SHIV to my collection, at least not until this issues raised in this thread have been addressed.

Malc

[Weissman]

Ubisoft, please, we need a 1.3 patch for SH4, it is unfinished as is.
Kim in Australia

[VonGanzUnten]

WE need the patch,just do it
the game is not finish

[preach75]

/Signed

[ghost_666_rider]

I have spent the past 3 weeks assembling my new rig at a cost of well over $8,000 (Can) just to do this game the justice I expected it to deserve. Thanks for saving me
those last few dollars if you don't FINISH this game.

If these glaring problems will not be getting fixed I hope the SDK gets released pronto. I will then pick up one of the hundreds of $10 used copies that will be floating around and send the balance of the price directly to the modders.

:up: To all the modders! SHIII looks and plays absolutely fantastic on my new 30" monitor!


Diesel Power Forever

[Malm]

As I recall the last patch only fixed eyecandy and stuff, something a lot of us would have prioritized lower than the +70 game stopping bugs this sim still is infected with :damn:

This game was never finished and most likely never will be.

[Mordeth]

I'm in!

I've actually delayed playing this game until it is patched to my satisfaction/ Which shouldn't be long now, me hopes...

[robbierob2005]

Whow!

This thread is starting to be very huge.
Well, Ubisoft. Is there going to be a 1.3 patch or do you've already earned enough money on the game and don't want to spend more.

Greetz

Rob Copier
The Netherlands

[D_arkTrooper]

Well as pretty much everyone is amazed at the the sheer panto like situation that has arisen regarding the SHIV 1.3 patch,it`s fully understandable how so many people are giving up with Ubi and boycotting future releases.

Although it`s of little consolation to the people who have already handed over their cash,I hope that my customer review over on http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/624411/Silent-Hunter-4-Wolves-Of-The-Pacific/Product.html (one of Europes biggest online retailers for those who don`t know) will help save a few people from disappointment in the future.

[badkarma]

fix it, fix it, fix it!

[Mueller72]

We need a patch my dear...

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:yXvPrNM1mURPpM:http://gimps.de/wettbewerb/albums/userpics/Patch_Adams-in-Kill-Bill-1.jpg

[steeler59]

We need that patch.I have stopped playing it because of the irrational behavior of the AI.

[Overkill]

We need that patch.I have stopped playing it because of the irrational behavior of the AI.

I second that. The game only needs a little more to make it complete. Don't let us down, UBI.

[Rafter11]

For some reason the periscope view of the angle on the bow is often very different than the actual AOB. The correct AOB can be obtained by plotting the target course, getting a good range and meausering the angle between the target course and the sub to target line. Often that result gives a far different AOB than one would estimate by looking at the target through the periscope.

I think this is a bug that along with others needs to be fixed by a 1.3 patch.

Rafter11

[KPII]

I just registered on the forum in order to sign the petition - hereby done. I'll also support any constructive initiatives to pursade the company to deliver a working product.

[r00t@localhost]

Don't release erroneous and incomplete software and stop supporting it three months later. *signed*

[Alan]

This SH4 game is away and beyond the best subsim out since Sh3,which was the benchmark others will follow..Looking forward to the next patch it should make it nearly perfect hopefully..:up:

[Perseus]

Haven't bought SH4 on the basis of the gazillion error-reports posted here and elsewhere, put off buying it until the majority of people here would say that it's close to 100%.

So therefore: SIGNED

[TaggedYa]

I'd say I want my money back but after several other disapointments from Ubi I didn't buy SH4. If it ever gets finished I will pick it up in a bargan bin somewhere. Personaly I wish the modders would shift their vast talents to the open source sub sim project. Then we wouldn't have to beg anyone for patches.

[Blackbird_402]

Patch 1.3 for incomplete software, please !!!

Marcel Frick
Germany

[Gasman]

Please UBI fix this game asap.

[legion33]

I Have been left hanging at least a dozen times when other companies could not or would not add fix patchs to products that were not completed on release. I hope Ubisoft isnt one of them.

[Ze]

[quote=sunvalleyslim]Neal is the heart and soul of Subsim. com.
If Neal is asking, he is asking for the community.
He knows the lifes blood that flow thru this forum.
He knows greatness when it's there
He knows what this community is looking for
He wants those who believe to step forward
He wants those that can, to change for the better
He knows what this community wants
And if he asks for change, then it is best to stand up and listen
Listen to those who have made "SH" what it is..........

Agreed! Lets stick together! All hands battlestations! SH IV patch now! These series deserve more respect!

[robj250]

Someone mentioned BattleCruiser 3000 in this thread. BattleCruisers came from the Blizzard's game Starcraft which I have played since it came out and still play it. Now Blizzard is going to release Starcraft2. Just thought I'd mentioned it.

I still play SHIII even though I've already won the war once, so am starting over again. I'm sticking with you for now Ubi, so please finish the product you started - with a patch which will fix all the bugs in SH4.

My EnemyBeneath website contains a link to my Starcraft website.

[Trekkman]

*signed* :yep:

We need another patch.

[weedmate]

Game is impossible to play seriously its just broken. I stopped playing it after the first campaign mission. I may play it from time to time but thats just becouse i like the beatiful graphics and never more than 15 - 25 minutes. To many bugs. We need a patch/patches. I payed 40$ for a game i cant even play. :nope:

Patch it!!! :stare:

[Condor96]

I'm a long time gamer, since the 80's my first PC was a Vic-20, many probably never heard of those,needless to say I have purchased many games,good ones bad ones, but never one that had more bugs than SH4,totally unbelievable that this game was released in such an incomplete state. I have all four Silent Hunters.When I started SH1 I'm like 'wow this is so cool', when I heard there was gonna be an SH2 man I couldnt wait, got it and was impressed. Then I heard about SH3, I'm thinking gee if its gonna get better that this I gotta have it. got it, thinking 'wow this is the best', then started getting mods then Grey Wolf, I was inspired how can it get any better than this. Then I hear SH4 coming out Im thinking 'if this is gonna be better that SH3 its gonna be awesome'. What a let down no one had to tell me there was bugs I knew it from the get go. I have other Ubi games like Brother in Arms and some others that Im totally happy with, and I was just dumbfounded that this game SH4 was just crap, I could not believe that any self respecting company could release such an incomplete game especially Ubi, I expected more from them.
However, the graphics are very,very good gotta admit that, but I want to do more than just look, I want a challenge, I want my systems to work correctly. I want my crew to do there jobs, is that too much to ask? This SH4 has the potential to be the best combat sim ever, Ubi needs to stand up and make good for the mistakes they made for releasing an unfinished game as im sure they will, in my book Ubi has a good reputation for great games, I hope they dont let me down, if they give up on SH4 I'll never buy another Ubi game and I dont think I'll stand alone on that.

Looking forward for the new patch.
Condor

[livewire68]

While I don't think that the game is unplayable, it definitely needs some more work. Please allow the Dev team to work on finishing this product. It's good, but it can be a lot better!!! 1.3 patch:up::up::up:

[Tenebrae]

Ubisoft has the unusual habit of letting out great simulation games who are often incomplete or riddled with bugs and compatibility issues. It has been so since Lock-On: Modern Air Combat (you actually had to update it to Flaming Cliffs - buy it, that is - which had Star"Brute"Force, and it still had some bugs), it has been so with SH3, it is so with SH4. So, although I don't believe this long thread won't be so important to them (do they actually listen to us players?), I do think they should resolve their bugs. And who knows more about their games' bugs than the players suffering from them?

[L_DOG]

id like to know when they are gonna release a finished product for once ??
should we have to pay 60 bucks for a game we cant play ?? what gives?
some how this dosnt impress me much.:arrgh!:
but i digress.
i still like sub sims and will play it after its fixed.

[Sectus]

/Signed

Another patch would definitely be good.

[callidus]

I backup Neals call for a new patch

[Born]

I enjoyed Silent Hunter 3, & wait for patch 1.3 to buy the 4th.
Remember me of Falcon 4...
Christian

[Enchavado]

I agree with Neal in the seriousness of the issue, even when I can't play the stuff because my graphic card (ATI 9200 AGP) is unsupported, but after being playing SH3 some time by now is sure that a big and helpfull comunity like ours deserves more support from Ubisoft.

Calm seas and good hunting.

[VonBlade]

Perhaps instead of a new patch, UBI can transfer 50% of their profits from their account to the modders? Seeing as it's them who have got it remotely playable.

:arrgh!:
VB

[listerzuk]

Come on Ubisoft, get ur finger out & finish off what uve started. i vote :yep: to another patch

[Steeltrap]

Perhaps instead of a new patch, UBI can transfer 50% of their profits from their account to the modders? Seeing as it's them who have got it remotely playable.

:arrgh!:
VB

LMAO..... what he ^ said

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rock: :rock:

[Zatoichi]

Indeed this game needs another patch to stop-up the holes that are flooding the ship and sending her to the bottom. When I prefer playing Deer Hunter over Silent Hunter 4 there is a serious problem. Please, address the issues that this group has discovered, it's good for us it's good of the devs and it's good for Ubi.
Ichi...

[Cliff]

C'mon UBI. Do the right thing by the community that purchases your products, and issue another patch for this potentially great game.

[DaveP63]

I agree that another patch is needed...

[ARAXTHEBOLD]

a new patch must come,really and hurry:oops:

[Jorge]

I was looking forward to SH4 but was put off by all the bug reports. Until the last of these issues is fixed I am holding off on buying SH4.

[The Enigma]

As commander of the whole fleet I support this request fully.
Ahoy!

[chrisp]

Shoot, I bought a new computer so I could play this game....

Be nice if it were more stable. And got feet/meters straight.

(Didn't NASA lose a Mars probe because somebody confused feet and meters?

Chris P.

[flamewagon]

I agree, the next patch should be made.

[gum22]

There are a lot of us lurking here on the subsim forums who you guys have never heard a peep from. I believe this is my first post ever (edit- OK, second) and I've logged on subsim almost every day for nigh on two years. Guys like me have been quietly playing SH3 (in my case, heavily modded with GWX and Ducimus' tweaks and other great stuff produced by the SH3 Mod community).

Personally, I log in to subsim in order to keep up with the mod community and also to do recon on the next "latest and greatest" subsim coming down the pike. For the last many moons that "up and coming" sim has been SHIV. I found SH3 to be very unfinished when I bought version 1.0 back in the day, and I expected that SHIV would be the same. SH3 is now "just right" thanks to the hard work of the Mod community (thank you KpLt Lehmann, GWX team, JScones, Rubini, JCWolf, Ducimus and all of the others). SHIV is still in development, from what I hear...

My point is this- there are probably a whole lot of sub simmers just like me who never ever post on the forums but who are extremely tuned in. Players like me are waiting on our community experts to report that SHIV is finally fixed enough to justify buying. Without a 1.03 patch, I'm gonna stay in the Atlantic with SH3 because it WORKS, the mods make it the best boat in the ocean, and why would I want to spend my hard earned money on an unfinished product the developer and the dev team have walked away from already.

PATCH IT AND I WILL BUY IT.

Two cents from my first (err-Second) post.

Gumby, U554.

[Gooddoc]

Add me to the list those that will not buy SHIV until the game is properly patched. I'm tired of buying beta software

[PHeberer]

Please Please! Make this sim what it was intended to be. Graphics are great but that is about it.

It is with great disappointment that I have had to remove SH4 and continue using SH3.

[cruiser2132]

Agree on the need for a further patching of the game. Really want to play it, but the performance of SHIII, at this point, is far superior to what I get with WotP. Not to mention the fact that I would really hate to have the game end my career suddenly due to glitches...

[Zargi]

This is what i need to live in this world, water, love and the SH4 patch 1.3

[nunosm]

Always a sub fan...always payed for the silents....but i'm beginning to feel cheated...because UBI prefers to launch a new game and pick pocket me again, than to really put the one already released up to standards....I've seen that regarding sh3...and now the same movie all over again...

So a patch is not needed, it is demanded for the product to be complet, or else...please send 20% of my money back...:D

Nuno - Portugal

[stevekl51]

You have always provided such great sims for us, keep up the good work and nail this one as well. Thanks for all the great dives!!!

[darksythe]

Come on Ubi Do your jobs or be replaced its as simple as that. This release is the worst software i have bought in many years due only to the fact of how long it took them to get us some patches, and now it seems they've packed it in and quit. This will be the last Ubisoft title i buy untill they show us some support and fix this game.

[baxterrj]

yeah these issues need to be taken to ubi and handeled.

[spudweasel]

Want my money for the next UBI title? Patch this one. :damn:

[KLARCH]

I bought Silent Hunter 4 as soon as I saw it on the store shelf, but have not played it regularly because of the instabilities and crashes I've expereienced with it. I have since gone back to SH3 as this game has been made complete thanks to the hard work of several modders in the community.

Come on UBI, we payed you our hard earned money for the game, the least you can do is make sure it is stable and usable by your customers.

[HarleyRider]

This is EXACTLY the reason alot of people download hacked versions of a game!!! I'm not condoning it, but why should they pay hard earned money for a game when it's not even close to being finished. And then the developers and publishers get very annoyed and wonder why people do this. Well, D'UH!!!

C'mon Ubisoft. Get it together and finish this thing!!!

Cheers!!!

[fidget]

This is EXACTLY the reason alot of people download hacked versions of a game!!!
I will say that almost every game I've ever bought (maybe every one), had a demo download available to try out. I tend to think this is a good quality indicator (and an act of good faith by the publisher) for a game, since, if there are serious issues/bugs in the basic gameplay, they would be very appearent in the demo. That also removes the 'try-before-you-buy' motive of would-be pirates. UBISoft doesn't seem to support this concept, and I think that I now know why. In the future, I'll stick with my 'don't buy it, if they are afraid to let you try it first' rule.

[Zakalwe]

I haven`t bought SH4 and won`t do it until this game is patched to a somewhat playable level.

Want my money UBI? Do your homework.

Until then I`m perfectly happy playing SH3 + GWX.

Z.

[Ragnar39]

Ubi get this game fixed ! Its sad to see a good series like SH have to be so heavily mod by the player community to make it playable. Thats your job Ubi, its your game and you take our money NOW get a 3rd patch and fix this game. For my part i wont buy any Ubisoft game UNTIL you get SH IV fixed period ! :arrgh!:

[JerseySeven]

I pre-ordered SH4 from UbiSoft. Over the years, I've played every WWII sub game since the birth of the PC - Spectrum Holobyte's Gato, Epyx's Submarine Simulator, a couple of DOS titles I can't remember, Das Boot (which I wish I could forget), Microprose's great Silent Service, Dynamix's Aces of the Deep and of course, SHI, II and III.

Given this perspective, I am certain of one thing: Fancy graphics and pixel shaders can't make up for broken core game mechanics. I would have thought that the folks at Ubisoft Romania would have figured that out by now.

To the programmers, designers, developers and publishers: You have come so very far towards completing a very fine title. Please, for the sake of your own self-respect, go the final few steps and get this thing working properly.

Thanks.

[raymond6751]

Dev Team...get crackin!

[jimbob]

I agree completely that patch 1.3+ is needed.

While the modding community never ceases to amaze me there are things that even they can't fix, things that require a developer's attention. Please provide that attention and make SH4 the quality title it deserves to be.


ditto

[IYIENACE]

....Ubisoft, your DEV team has created the most visually stunning sub sim ever, but patch 1.3 is necessary to allow them to fix some critical bugs that are still present in the game.

Please don't quit on the game now.....


Well said.

[Capt. D]

:up: That's a Big 10-4 Neal.

We need to complete what was started and complete it correctly. Feel like I have been sent to battle without any weapons. UBI let's get on the with the program and finish what you started.

Happy Hunting :ping:

[Rhíon]

Ahoy,
I just registered to these forums to support this campaign.
I am owner of the No. 1246 of the exclusive limited edition boxes.

Although the game runs mostly fine for me and i really enjoy what i see so far i absolutely agree that those issues mentioned by Neal Stevens should be adressed.

So please Ubi and SH4-team take care of those bugs and gameplay issues and give those who would really appreciate it a 100% working game to enjoy!

Thank you and greetings from Germany,
Rhion

[Puzz3D]

Since I own Silent Hunter 3 and get a lot of enjoyment out of it with the Grey Wolves modification, Silent Hunter 4 will be a definte purchase for me if the outstanding issues mentioned are corrected in a v1.3 patch. I hope the SH4 dev team is given the go ahead to make another patch.

[cwchute]

Agreed. Please patch as needed to keep this sim up to the high standards of prior versions.....

[BFawlty]

....Ubisoft, your DEV team has created the most visually stunning sub sim ever, but patch 1.3 is necessary to allow them to fix some critical bugs that are still present in the game.

Please don't quit on the game now.....


Well said.

:up: Agreed on both posts! Come on Ubisoft.

BF

[1gandy]

Fix it, Ed

[subroc]

Having purchased the complete series of this simulation, my loyalty as a buyer of Ubisoft software will be sorely tested if patch v1.3 doesn't materialize.

rgr that same here.. I have seen better multiplayer lobbies in 1992 vintage multiplayer games... standard should be going up not down.. I even layed out $20.00 so hopefully we can get hyperlobby support for SH4 which dosent look good Jiri must have disappeared for 6 months..:down:

[Airborne!]

Fix the game so its enjoyable or don't expect me to lay money out for any more UBISOFT products. If I am going to Beta Test your games you could at least fix them.

[TEO438]

Please make PATCHES to fix all the unmoddable problems. I would settle for this. Ubisoft, if you take the time to look at every post, just count the number of first posts in this thread. This is mine and I would bet there are at least 100 posts where the posters count is 1. This tells me there are a lot more people out there concerned enough to sign up just to voice their oppinion here. If you fail to patch and decide on a SH5, the only way I would buy is if you gave SH4 registered users 75% off. Why 75? I say this because I feel the released game was about 25% of what it should have been before patches. Some of the mods have made it playable for me, but no mod is going to fix the save game bug. If I offended any fanboys out there, sorry, this is my opinion. :damn: :damn: :damn:

[Dunwolf]

Complete the game and do it right. Its a great game that just needs to be polished and finished with another patch!

keep it going...

[Krabbenfischer]

patch 1.3+ is needed. :up:

[Malc]

Do UBIsoft do any beta testing... If so you would of thought that all these bugs etc would of been flagged up before the final release ?

[stoneys-nutz]

Please do the right thing and stand buy your customers who bought the game and release a patch that goes some way to making the game what it was intended to be. Come on UBI play the game

[BobStewart57]

Add my name to the list. :rock:

SH-4 is a very fun game, but it REALLY, REALLY needs more work!

[AlexSN]

We all need the patch!!!!!!!!! Now!!!!!!

Alexej

[mags4eva]

I did not buy sh4 because i liked the look of the artwork on the box or because it goes with my copies of sh2 and sh3, i bought it because i wanted to play it but so far all i have done with it is mess about with it checking out a few of the mods. Please ubisoft fix the game so i can play it properly, so i can feel more like this :D than feel like :damn: .

[wilted]

This game really needs something to help it out. I've gone back to SH3 - it's really more enjoyable. So far I consider SH4 a poor clone of SH3 and am sorry I wasted my money on it.

E.Collins
Nanaimo, BC.

[Lyndy62]

We need this patch! you made a great game.. but its got flaws.. lets fix this puppy and call it done! we want a game that is finished and you want happy customers.. its a win win situation! come on already!

[Floater]

I've not read all the way through this thread (55 pages!), but I'll echo the sentiments of the original post.

SH4 has all the makings of a great game. Visually, it's absolutely stunning, but it's simply not complete. So many things don't work, and it's an awful shame to see what could be a wonderful product to end up as a half-finished idea, with so much potential remaining.

Please, Ubisoft, listen to our voices, and clear up the most important remaining bugs. If you do, and if you decide to invest in developing another sim, you will have sales from a solid fan-base on the grounds of the whole Silent Hunter franchise. If you don't, I for one won't ever consider buying anything from you again.

[KPII]

Do UBIsoft do any beta testing... If so you would of thought that all these bugs etc would of been flagged up before the final release ?

This product is far from ready for beta-testing .... it's somewhere between proto-typing and alpha-testing with a few incomplete tasks in spec'ing the product :)

[Dilbert]

SH4 is a great game. Make it the finest sub simulation ever by providing another patch!

[docnobby]

Well I guess it's all about money right?!

Be assured I'll not buy another Ubisoft game untill you brought SH 4 to a point where it's fun to play!

So Ubisoft, do what you took our money for!!! :shifty:

[Desjelle]

Gimme me patch....

[Sixpack]

UBI,

I'll buy SH4 when Neal Stevens confirms it can be considered a finished product.

Looking 4ward to that time.

[Apocalypse]

SH 4 is an adequate product at the moment - but with patch 1.3 it could be so much more enjoyable. Please release a new patch fixing the remaining problems as soon as possible.

[seaniam81]

Ubisoft, your DEV team has created the most visually stunning sub sim ever, but patch 1.3 is necessary to allow them to fix some critical bugs that are still present in the game.

Please don't quit on the game now. You're so close to producing something really special. Give these Guys one more patch to fix this game, and let us all be proud of Silent Hunter 4.

Thanks,

Terry

I totally agree. :yep:

I also agree 100%

[schurem]

while the game is very good as it is, it still has some gamebreakin bugs. get on the ball ubi, throw them romanians some euro's to finish their job!

[3771730]

I played with SH I, II, III. Why deploying so much graphics science while forgetting IA basics ? Attacking a convoy protected by 8 DD triggers such a mess that you are safe at persicope depth and can even rearm and attack once more...

Ubisoft must understand that neglecting SH IV will tarnish its global image.

[Deep Six]

I have bought EVERY Silent Hunter game that Ubi have released. Die-Hard, Spanner whammer, Rivet head counter, call me what you will. I have always had an affinity for Subsims, please Ubisoft, honour the Die-hard, the quick go-getter and the Rivet header in releasing a much needed third patch. You know we might be a Small bunch of niche market gamers , but we ARE passionate about THIS genre of gaming. You have always done the right thing in releasing patches for this series, Don't let SH4 which should be your Coup De Grace...Fall into shallow seas to rest there for all time, undone, unfinished

Respectfully yours, Purchased one of only 3000 Limited Edition Delux boxed sets


Deep Six

[robj250]

Could they also remove the disc check it doesn't work properly most of the time on my computer, it's annoying having to try 4-5 times just to play the game in the first place.

Did they put a disk check in it just like they did with SH3?
If they did, then it's garbage. Other developers don't "have disk checks" i.e. Blizzard, (Starcraft - Broodwars) which by the way sold millions and is still a working and demanding game today, which is a long time since it was released.
They are still having tournaments with this game and will continue.

PLEASE ADD THE PATCH/ Signed

[hocking]

This seems to be a concern for more games these days. Rush the game out the door to raise revenues, and then abandon the game before you have fully patched it up in an effort to look for even more revenues from a new title. This type of activity is a huge threat to PC gaming in general. People lose interest in PC games when they experience poor game play on nearly every PC game they buy.

Ubisoft, you need to fully patch this game up before you can move onto other titles in this series. It is a must for the survival of the series.

[thehiredgun]

Ubi has been known as leader in sub sims ! Will this continue ? I support Neal & his efforts !!

[Roy]

I am hoping to hear the patch has been released BEFORE purchasing the game.
Roy

[vois2]

I have been an absolute addict of the SH series, but the current state of SH4 leaves me very disappointed and sincerely questioning why I should purchase Ubisoft products in the future. Like any other product of and kind of quality in the Western markets, this piece of software should be supported until the major fixes are in place. I'm getting ready to purchase a console (and will continue faithfully as a PC gamer) but I can't buy Ubisoft products in future until months have passed (and even if then) because of my knowledge of incomplete productions. I really want to play - just fix it so that I can and then you can sell me many more future products. Thanks!!

[jhay]

I have been a fan of SH-3 and eagerly anticipated SH-4. But the appearance of so many bug reports has made me withhold my purchase. I actually held a copy of it in my hand at Circuit City a few hours ago, but I put it back on the shelf and will leave it there until an effective patch resolves these many issues. Thanks Neal, for spearheading this effort.

[U56]

Thanks Neal for bringing this up. Please UBI complete this game.

Regards

[Reyern]

weth meh patch!

[Marnault]

definatly need a third patch

[EinsteinEP]

While I applaud Neal's effort to re-direct all the Ubi-hate mail I'm sure *he's* been getting, this forum won't haven't any effect on the Developer.

If the intent is to gain visibility in Ubi's eyes, accurately poor reviews of their product need to be given to those that haven't purchased yet. Ubi then has the choice of accepting a loss in sales, or of improving their product, increasing sales and good word-of-mouth. Sadly, I think the time has long passed for SH4. It was amazing enough to have gotten 1.3, as little as it was. Any more is a pipe-dream. Ubi may spit something out between now and then, but I'm not holding my breath.

I bought SH4, and I occasionally play it, but, sadly, I do not enjoy it as much as I feel I should. Sure, the eye candy's nice, but if that's what I wanted, I would have just bought the box.

Want to get Ubi to change their ways? Tell everyone you know that SH4 sucks and is a waste of money. Either Ubi will fix it or they'll try harder next time.

In the meantime, mein Uboot beckons. :arrgh!:

[DJ Funk]

SH2 really made me the subsimmer I am today & I loved both playing & modding it for years. When SH3 came out I was already waiting for it & bought it right away only to shelve it for about a year because of all the issues that didn’t seem right or needed fixing. Fortunately for me & the rest of us the patching & the efforts of this community renewed my faith & I’m loving my SH3 today. I love it so much I bought SH4 simply because even if it was launched only half baked (as did both earlier versions), I was sure it would receive the same respect & treatment as SH2/3 did both official & unofficial.

C’mon Ubi… U can’t drop the ball just yet!

[Captain Affenschwanz]

Figures that UBI would market another game before it's ready as they've done it before... That's why I'm waiting until the bugs are gone BEFORE I put down my money.

[Nokia]

I agree 100% that we need a third patch for SHIV NOW!!

edit: starting SH3 and continuing my old career

[DerKaleun]

That the worst Subsim release I have ever played. SH3 was marvellous, SH4 stinks. Not the concept, but the bugs!

That was the last UBI Game for me, if they don´t come up with a patch shortly which REALLY solves all bugs.

For the meantime, I take U-57 again :rock:

[SteamWake]

That the worst Subsim release I have ever played. SH3 was marvellous, SH4 stinks. Not the concept, but the bugs!

That was the last UBI Game for me, if they don´t come up with a patch shortly which REALLY solves all bugs.

For the meantime, I take U-57 again :rock:

Sh3 needed a little loving too.

[joea]

That the worst Subsim release I have ever played. SH3 was marvellous, SH4 stinks. Not the concept, but the bugs!

That was the last UBI Game for me, if they don´t come up with a patch shortly which REALLY solves all bugs.

For the meantime, I take U-57 again :rock:

Please, SH3 had plenty of bugs too! :roll:

[TopcatWA]

:yep: I quite agree with comments made by previous posts. You would have thought from producing SH III UbiSoft would have learnt that quality control of a product is paramount if you want people to buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!! :damn: :damn: :damn:

[Kickbum]

I agree!

[Fletcher_Z2]

Patch 1.3 is needed

[Mancuso24]

Finishing the sim should be a matter of honor for UBISOFT. I strongly support this thread.

Greetings from the 24th Flotilla, Spain.

[THE_MASK]

Everyone chip in $10 each and buy ubisoft will be the only way to fix SH4 . :88)

[Gollan]

SilentHunter is a great franchise, it would be a shame for it to end on a low note. I support additional patches to address the issues with SH4.

[nimitstexan]

This should be (and I still hope will be), my all time favorite Sub sim. All that is needed is a good Patch 1.3 . . .

[tycho102]

I'm up in this thread, too. The radar needs serious fixing.
I guess I'll get my paypal password hunted down this week and throw some money in the pot. There's a few places and I might as well get them all knocked out all together.

[Hydra]

Come on UBI, your reputation is on the line. Finish what you started, give us what we expected and paid for. Give us patch v1.3. :rock:

[red_one]

Patch please.

[Radtgaeb]

Everyone chip in $10 each and buy ubisoft will be the only way to fix SH4 . :88)


Y'know, as sad as it is, I'd honestly do it at this point. But I'd never purchase an UBI game ever again. :yep:

[Winslow]

I don't usually post, but this game could be so good. It would be a shame to let
it go unfinished.:nope:

Winslow

[Snuffy]

On a side note ... I'd like to see the spelling errors and location names fixed as well.

[mrmertz]

Yeah, all of the above would be nice but for me running Vista not having a CTD would be AWESOME!

Too bad for Ubi as I suspect this wwill be my last title I buy from them. I got stiffed with SH3 and that incompetent StarForce fiasco and now this half baked thing. Don't get me wrong, it's good - when it's not crashing.

I think I'll stop here before I get flamed. Let's just hope there's not too much vodka floating around the 'ol dev room.

Jeff aka mrmertz

[irish1958]

SHIII had 1.4B patches. SHIIII deserves at least as much. I don't have a problem with releasing a game that must be patched several times; but the developers should keep up with the players and patch the obvious faults. PATCH THE DAMN THING!!!

[androo]

I don't buy games from companies that do not support their products with necessary patches.

Come on Ubi, another patch is needed! It is the right thing to do and it is the only way to insure sales of future games, whatever their genre.

[frenzied]

I've actually held off buying SH4, partly because I didn't have enough time to play it, but now that I do have some spare time, I'm still going to put off buying it until a patch comes out.
Please Please patch it, I do want to get it!

[Dreamer]

Further patching is most definitely required, and soon! I played SH4 for a few weeks after getting it but it holds absolutely no interest for me now in its current, buggy state.

Martin

[Fourpaws]

By all means, Ubi please bring SH4 up to the same stellar standard weve come to expect from the SH series. In doing so you ensure active interest/sales in any possible SH titles.

[Quiksilva]

Has UBI actually said anywhere that they will not patch it? Just because they have not told you doesn't mean they are not working on it.

Games publishers rarely tell us when patches are due out, much to everyone's frustration.

[lancer]

Goodaye,

We need the patch. Come on Ubisoft!

Cheers,
Lancer

[Lupuscanis]

I have to say that I was playing a quick game of the Midway battle. I was concentrating on getting a manual solution on a battleship when I got rammed full on by a destroyer at periscope depth. I was hit so hard I went from PD to about 80 ft forced down by the weight of the destroyer, and as I gritted my teeth in anticipation for damage reports and flooding, none came. I took absolutely no damage, and as far as I could tell, neither did the destroyer. We need this bug addressed as well as the speed judgement for the manual TDC.

Can't wait for patch 1.3!

[Oligo]

We definitely need a patch still.

[Aceman]

I have played SH4 for maybe 10 hours now - compare that to the 20 hrs I played SH3 the first day I bought it... I'm very confident the patch will come but I just wish I had it the day b4 tomorrow... Patience is otherwise on of the best skills we can posess -try as my brother and I did - play SH3 in realtime and no help from the crew - 7000 tons in 168 hrs non stop gaming - NOT an easy task I must say - Aceman

[Lookout]

It's SO close to being good!

[metrocube]

I'd like a third patch, please. Fix the measurements, fix the stop watch. Then open up the source code so that we can fix the rest of the little bugs. All these little issues add up.

[andysk]

Hello Skippers!
Although i'm a little late for the topic due to my son's birth i agree we should press ubisoft in releasing the next patch within a short while because it's such a nice game and i cannot play it because of all the irritating bugs you mentioned above...

Thank you

[Tonnage_Ace]

I haven't been on Subsim since SH4 came out. Then I get this email and I'm shocked! No 1.3 patch??? We all need a reason to give SH4 another shot!

Support this game Ubisoft!

[Hammertime]

Patch needed please!

[Marko]

sign me in

[SteveW1]

Add me to the list to, Please UBI another patch to fix some of the bugs

[McBaresark]

Add my name to those wanting a next patch sorting these issues out...

McBaresark

[U-dat]

I have shelved Silent Hunter 4 after playing a couple of War Patrol missions. Although the potential is there, I find it so frustrating to play sooo slow if you want the good graphics (and my computer is no slouch) that I'd just rather go back to SH3. And then the destroyer rammed me and I survived without damage???????? Unfortunately I'm rather tired of SH3 and was really looking forward to SH4. It's like a bad case of deja vu. ONCE AGAIN UbiSoft releases a subsim too quickly without the major bugs worked out. Only at least with SH3 they seemed to be willing to see it through. SH4 they seem to have given up on like a retarded stepchild. It will be a long while before I "buy in" to another UbiSoft con job :arrgh!:

[OneTinSoldier]

Do UBIsoft do any beta testing... If so you would of thought that all these bugs etc would of been flagged up before the final release ?
Ubi made it very clear that they delivered an unfinished half-baked product, and apparently expected us to be happy with it. :down:

I wonder why on earth Ubi thinks that more patches aren't needed while it's still unfinished and chock-full 'o bugs. Why was SHIII supported only to dump SHIV in it's time of need? Is the management there new and showing it's true colors?

The way this whole thing is being handled by Ubi is disrepectful, not to mention ridiculous. And if I were working for them on this project and saw how bad they were making me and the company I work at look, I'd be quitting. Needless to say, they've lost me as a customer.

This whole 'whether or not a patch 1.3 is needed' thing is just stupid.

[Cyrus Grissom]

/signed.

We not only need the patch, I think, we deserve it. :rock:

[Avance]

I agree that more patching is needed for Silent Hunter 4.

[SilentOtto]

I agree on the idea, software businesses should be more responsible with the products they market, and how they do it. Please fix the problems the community asks for. Don't wait for another company to come and grab all this customer base from you!

[sablotnik]

Late aboard due to weekend release,
but I agree that there is a rightful demand for patch 1.3 !!

[zande]

/signed

[Lt. Staumeier]

I'm for another patch. There are reasons as to why Silent Hunter 4 is still on my shelf and I'm finding myself playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and WoW instead. Please give a working subsim?

[alfonsuas]

And multiplayer needs some work too :smug:

we need ship sunk details. Is imprescindible

[fasteel]

SH4 can be the best sub game ever, so please finnish it :yep: :yep: :yep: :yep: :yep:

Fasteel

[Sharkfin]

Please Ubi start working on the next patch!

[Fragellan]

A good game that could be excellent, further patching required to reach it's full potential. If support is lacking it will certainly influence my future purchase decisions in regards to Ubisoft products... and not in a good way.

[karac77]

It is so sad that you have to ask (almost beg) for something you already paid a serious ammount of money. No way I'am spending mine if they don't finish it. My friend did and know he is pi...ed. It is simply a rip off.:down: I hope there are still some decent people in UBI. BR for all of you!

[hmatthias]

I've already stopped playing this game waiting for the patch that will make radar work correctly. Also bought the game knowing it would need to be patched, but if this patch doesn't happen, forget me ever buying another Silent Hunter game.

[SimJack]

I think the game is great, but along with everyone else I have a few items that should be addressed in a patch:

My apologies if this is redundant.

1) The lifeboats....................great concept. In my opinion they need a little work. When a ship is hit, the lifeboats are in the water way too fast. They also travel way too fast and show on radar as merchants.

2) The AA gun eye point needs moving. If you are on a sub that has the "tub", the gun is almost useless, except directly toward the stern.

3) The rocks on the bottom, make em disappear. :rock:

4) Slow down the land vehicles.

5) The Japanaese aircraft must have homing devices, and they seem to appear out of nowhere.


SimJack

[Strokkur]

Just adding my voice to the many. Its unacceptable to leave the game as it is, we need the game as it is meant to be. Ubisoft fix it.

[Argento]

We need another patch(es) fix the sim please!

[Philipshari]

Ahoy mates! Enjpy these simulators and agree there's allot to fix on sh4 but I was wonderin.. If memory serves me correct, Silent Hunter did not have too many bugs in it when it was released. Sh2 did have problems. I never even finished the game it crashed too many times. I seem to remember something about the game being delayed due to personnel changes inside UBISOFT. Does anyone else remember this or am I wrong in my remembering.When sh3 came out I remembered thinking "well here goes another 50 buck wasted.." and we were all really suprised how well it eventually came to play. I still have it active on my pc in case I get the craps of sh4. When sh4 was announced I assumed like everyone else that ubisoft is getting their act together and sh4 has got to be the best to date. What a letdown. Did the developers loose personnel or something? What would prompt a developer to knowingly release software packages that have many fixes needed..Sub simulators aren't plentiful so we got to keep going back to the only show in town. I think they know this and realize they ARE the only show in town.

[uzi]

Don't let us down UBI. Regards. Uzi

[simonz]

SH4 needs a v1.3 patch (at least!) I bought this game in full knowledge that it would be incomplete as I also was an early adopter of SH3, but SH3 was patched to a state of acceptability. I expect the same of SH4. If I am to be a mug due to expecting patches that never eventuate I will be most displeased.

[Sailor Johnny]

SH4 needs a patch, at least to address known problems...

Please, make it for the community.

[cdragon]

I agree with everything Neal says. Ubi, please fix these issues!

[ICDP]

I have been holding off purchasing SH4 until it has matured. Please don't abondon this Sim Ubisoft, it needs another patch.

[Wyckoff]

<font size=&quot;2&quot;><font face=&quot;Arial&quot;>It's coming up on two months since Silent Hunter 4 was released. Two patches have brought the game up to where it is stable and most of the basic features are functional, but there are still several key aspects that need attention and it's too quiet in the Ubisoft camp. I have not heard anything about the status of a third patch, which the game needs to be considered complete. Before the dev team gets too far from the construction site, Subsim is going to mount a campaign for patch v1.3... Neal +++<img>

[Rolf Eschke]

Hi !
We need the Patch!
Good Money for a Good Game,or what ?
Regards Rolf

[letterboy1]

Please add my vote for at least one more patch. SH4 is too good a game to be neglected. The mod makers can only do so much. Get SH4 to where it functions like it should and then let the mod makers polish it. Then it will become a classic.

[Mash]

Ubisoft fix the game as it was advertised regardless of the number of patches it takes. Show that Ubisoft cares about its customers and is willing to do the right thing.

[strelnikov]

Of course I join to the request for the patch v1.3 creation. Why? Because:

- sonar and radar do not work correctly
- I got sonar contact with ... sampan
- destroyers do not use all guns
- marchant ships AI need to be improved
- I can't reset my TDC data (eg. range)
- where the order "abandon ship" is? :)

but I have one question:

where is the official position from UBI in the matter of this patch (v1.3)? In other words I ask where is officially written that will not be v1.3 patch in the near future?

[poncho]

I quit playing this game since it is far from complete .

It is a shame that we have to go through this exercise to get done what should have been done to make this game playable .

[latemail]

A good game, but further patching is required to make it really playable.

If support is lacking it will certainly influence my future purchase decisions in regards to Ubisoft products... and will definetly return SH4, if there is no additional patch.

[Biggs[CV]]

Guys this is no big surprise. I have played the Tom Clancy series since 2000. Recently they have put out games that needed 2-3 patches just to be somewhat decent. They stopped support for R:6 Vegas when the game desperately needed at least another 2 patches.

That is how UBI treats its costumers. I had hoped that UBI was gonna be differant with SH4, I was wrong.
UBI, I am done with you, I will no longer buy your products. But its not like you care anyways..........

[gg.]

I think the Ubisoft poll for 1.3 patch is a shame...:damn:

[rgstephanz]

Ubisoft needs to patch this game. It is ridiculous that we are having to proceed as we are in begging for this patch. If Ubisoft is to continue producing games for our $$$$, they need to uphold their end of the bargain and produce a worthy product.

[bruschi sauro]

I think the Ubisoft poll for 1.3 patch is a shame...:damn:
YOU ARE RIGHT.:yep:

[froschman]

Since SH3 did get patch 1.4 it is a very good game, and I have played it for many hours.

Therefore I did hope that SH4 should have the same quality and completeness, that Ubisoft had used the lessons from SH3. They have not lived up to my expectations yet, so I hope patch 1.3 will bring SH4 up to the level of SH3.

[oblio]

I agree an additional patch is needed. Thanks.

[dean_acheson]

Guys,
I would really like to see a couple of things cleaned up. I'd hope that UBI would be willing to do this for us, to make the game as complete as possible.

We all in the Subsim community love the fact that UBI went ahead and gave us another WW2 Subsim, it took guts to do this, in a world of shooters and sports games, and most of us love SH4, but please work a bit to clean up the AI and make this buggier-free game.

The community would love you for it.

Thanks.
A loyal customer.

[Dellwig]

I support Neal's statement.
Thank You!

[Duck]

Gentlement at UBI,
A patch is definitly required. Also I don't know if its been mentioned, but when opening the captains log at later stages in the carear mode takes longer and longer!

Looking forward to a prompt and professional fix

[Typhoontony]

Come on Ubisoft, finish what you started. This has the potential to be a great sim.

Tony

[meerkatt]

:up: I have held off purchasing the game after reading many independent reviews and player comments regarding the number and severity of bugs in the game. Enjoyed SHIII, Ubisoft needs to complete the game. My ol' grandpappy used to say; "If you got time to do it right the first time, then you got time to do it right the second time" Let's get it right Ubisoft!

Ray

[gcosta]

Hello
I'm signing. I spent money on this game, only to find it's incomplete. I understand that UBISOFT wants to develop the next Tomb Raider game, and so thinks this game is too 'nitch' and doesn't have enough 'mass appeal'.
I too play 'casual' games when I'm busy, but when I want to play a realistic sub sim, I want a realistic sub sim. Not a dumbed-down version, and not one that's not complete and not fixed.
If a patch is not released to at least make the game complete, it will reflect very, very badly on UBISOFT as a company, and many will refuse to buy further UBISOFT games.
I really urge you to complete the game, even if you cannot make more than one patch.
I've been seeing many cases where more hardcore games are not being patched so that resources could be put into the next 'movie tie-in' game. Please finish this great game.

Thank you,
Gino Costa

[yllekm]

Add me to the list too.

I know there are some important bugs to fix, but we are still short some important features, like a functional sub tender so that wecan rearm/refuel without returning to port.

[Mark Edwin]

I purchased the game soon after it came out. I have been playing my first patrol under the career menu. I like the game very much but also have found many of the same problems with radar, and all the other things as mentioned by others on this thread.
I expect that UBI will patch this game again (1.3) because if they do not, I will not be able to justify ever buying another product from them. I have come to expect that they would address these issues that severely hinder gameplay and what I consider replayability. This is a great game but not patching it again is like birthing a child and refusing to take it to the doctor for corrective help because it has a turned in foot= crippled child becomes crippled adult (without help). I simply cannot believe that they will not address these other issues and soon. Please UBIsoft - someone please help.

[DocDarm]

Yup...still needs work. Count me as SIGNED.

DocDarm

[Koranis]

This baby needs one final patch (a good one) to be finally finished. Please, do it guys.

[madmax]

My vote is with Neal.... Now if this were a K class simulation we wouldn't need one

:up:

"My end is diving No1.... What the hell is your end doing?"

[MemoryLeaK]

UBISOFT-- can you say "Consumer Fraud?" because if you look up the definition you will discover that it includes knowingly making false statements about a product.
I think the fact that you did it deliberately is what irks me the most. You intentionally defrauded us. When that game was in beta testing the majority of these issues would have been discovered in the fist few minutes of playing. Therefore you intentionally released a faulty and flawed product while making statements to the contrary.
Even with a patch you knew in advance that the only thing that will save this game is the dedication of the modders and the loyalty of this community.
I swear you will never get another penny of mine.

[Chuck B.]

/signed

This game needs (at least) another patch. They should be ashamed that 1.0 started well behind the latest version of SHIII when it comes to quality and bugs - there is absolutely no excuse for the amount and type of bugs we encountered in 1.0 and are still encountering in 1.2.

To all those who think that this petition might lead to Ubisoft never making a Silent Hunter game anyomre: So be it. If they are not able to produce a decent, relatively bug free submarine game, let them fail and give someone else the chance to do it right.

To all those who point out at all the great mods: You are right, but I paid Ubisoft for delivering a working product, not the modders. While I'm certainly very thankful for what the modders did and do, that does not free Ubisoft from delivering a solid basis.

[marc420]

Ah, this is why I've stopped buying new releases. I'm sick of game companies putting out junk. The email I got says it took two patches just to get the game stable and the basic features functioning. To me, that's a game that should never have been released. I'm sick of game companies stealing my money by putting out junk releases like this.

So, I've never bought this game. And possibly never will. I certainly won't unless there's a patch that addresses these continuing issues. For example, I rarely play multiplayer, so an AI that can find its rear without a road map is a mandatory feature for me.

But all in all, I just wanted to say how happy I am I haven't given anyone one red cent of my hard earned money for this game. Sometimes its hard to resist temptation when a title comes out that sounds good. But this time I did, and the only thing I can say now is WHOOOOO-HOOOOOO!!!!!!

There are a few developers out there I trust not to release junk. But Ubisoft certainly isn't one of them. In fact, they are pretty much on my 'avoid like the plague unless everyone says there's a patched and modded game that really works' list.

[GreenTea]

Astonishing that we need to vote in the first place. Like the old car manufacturer analogy; release a broken product to the market that barely works, then ask your customers what their top issues are in order of importance... the remainder the user can fix themselves with some duct tape. *Maybe* they'll fix your top issues-- they'll poll it.

I understand the financial concern as well, but honestly. We have games that were released years ago to the market which are still being patched for nominal issues. The ability to play a complete and fulfilling game is there already. But with patch v1.2 for SH4, this game is barely held together, and for Ubi to question the necessity of a further patch is unconscionable.

It is situations like this that point to the argued "death" of computer gaming. Most people here are looking for a deep experience-- not the latest inane FPS or RTS that brings no innovation to the market. If games like this fall by the wayside, I will have no reason to upgrade my computer any longer. Should Ubi choose not to complete a further patch, at the least I will be sure not to support them any further.

I would have voted, except the Ubi website doesn't seem to remember my account (even though they have a record of my email address since I bought the $60 game directly from them), so there's no way for me to retrieve it to vote. Quite ironic.

[GreenTea]

There are a few developers out there I trust not to release junk. But Ubisoft certainly isn't one of them.

Ubisoft was not the developer.

[UWS]

This game really needs one patch to be finally finished. Please, do it guys...

[whimsical]

Ah, this is why I've stopped buying new releases. I'm sick of game companies putting out junk. The email I got says it took two patches just to get the game stable and the basic features functioning. To me, that's a game that should never have been released. I'm sick of game companies stealing my money by putting out junk releases like this.

So, I've never bought this game. And possibly never will. I certainly won't unless there's a patch that addresses these continuing issues. For example, I rarely play multiplayer, so an AI that can find its rear without a road map is a mandatory feature for me.

But all in all, I just wanted to say how happy I am I haven't given anyone one red cent of my hard earned money for this game. Sometimes its hard to resist temptation when a title comes out that sounds good. But this time I did, and the only thing I can say now is WHOOOOO-HOOOOOO!!!!!!

There are a few developers out there I trust not to release junk. But Ubisoft certainly isn't one of them. In fact, they are pretty much on my 'avoid like the plague unless everyone says there's a patched and modded game that really works' list.



Could'nt agree more with every word said. Unfortunately I bought the game. I tried to get a refund on the premise that it was "unfit for purpose" but no joy. The recent patch helped but it was by no means a fixed

The worrying thing is that this seems to be the trend nowadays. It seems as though every game I've bought lateley has had major issues. There obviously is'nt a law against it but there should be. Surely this is theft!!!!

[teeps]

Count my vote please.

[Akinesis]

I am refusing to start playing SH4 until there is a decent patch released to fix everything that is wrong. So, until then it is collecting dust on my shelf. In the mean time I'm continuing with SH3, using the GWX patches (which rock btw :rock: ).

[J B Lansing]

It would be a shame to leave it unfinished. Shades of falcon 4
J B

[marky]

patch it till it works!

[rulle34]

Of course there should be a 1.3 patch!!!!! how could UBI even think about leving the game in this half made condition:nope: This is a simulatorgame!! The lowest level is that it should work.
I fully support Neal´s statement

[robbo180265]

I would like to add my support and ask for the patch

[tiger_tim_34]

It's a well known law of marketing that if someone likes a product, they usually tell someone. But if some is unhappy with a product they usually tell about 10 people.

Do the maths. Make us happy consumers with another patch. Then do the maths again.

[mskvforester]

I'm an avid player of SH3. I've waited on buying SH4 because I knew their would be alot of tweaking/modding/PATCHING that neede to be done. Ubisoft, please do another patch, and another and another if needed. If you do so, I'll buy it. And I'll buy SH5 and 6 and so on. I have the giftcard ready and waiting.

[Kretschmer80]

I totally agree!
SH4 needs a patch v. 1.3 patch like few other games I've ever played...

[Red One]

I'm an keen player of SH3. I've waited on buying SH4 because I knew their would be a lot of tweaking/modding/PATCHING that needs to be done. Ubisoft, please do another patch, and another and another if needed. If you do so, I'll buy it.
Regards to all,
Roger

[KypFisto]

I hate to say it Ubi but your job isn't done yet. I've seen what you guys can do with other franchises I'm just hoping you can go all out and finish polishing this fine game. Please don't let us down.

[Samson]

/signed

[d0nk]

Please count my vote for another patch as well.

[[dc]Blade]

You defenatly got my vote, not touched it for fair few weeks, its a shame to admit it but Sh3 is still the one for me at the moment especialy with the GWX mod:yep:

[ComradeP]

/signed

[jtomicic]

I will purchase SH4 when I read its in an acceptable state,
like perhaps many others.

[Ikari]

i agreee to the fact that the game need to be done.. :down:

it´s clear that comential times are different from programing and developing times, but i, like a great fan of SH, always prefer to wait six months and get the finished game..

i love the graphics, but in the same proportion, i hate all things they take of from SH3.. i mean, dialogs with officials, weather reports, radar?? :hmm: , and many others little things that contribute to make SH best SS far away..

and of course, too much bugs...:down:

i think ubi is one of the most enjoyable game companies for my taste
hope they can hear us..

regards!

[Javigato]

I haven't bought SHIV as I am still playing Sh3 and quite happy with it I might add. It really saddens me when a product as buggy as this one gets out, and to top things off they are considering whether to patch it or not. Maybe is not fair to compare UBisoft with other companies, but it amazes me the HUGE differences between them and for example Thirdwire. Thirdwire makes the "lite" simulator series Strike Fighters, Wings over Vietnam, Wings Over Europe and First Eagles, great games (with some bugs like all software) but the guys there are still patching/upgrading their first release, Strike Fighters, which is... drumroll please... 5 years old!! That's right, release in 2002, but they still take ownership in their product... I think we would have more happy customers if companies took more ownership in their product, and not just the numbers...

[Grobschnitt]

I have not bought an EA game in over 7 years. Not for my kids or anyone and I bash that company every chance I get.

UBI is almost on the list.

We love the subsim UBI, show some pride and balls..fix the mess.

Maybe once EA finally takes you over they will do a better job?

Hostile takeover! lol

How much of UBI does EA own anyway? 10-20%?

[ruskoz]

I haven't bought SHIV as I am still playing Sh3 and quite happy with it I might add. It really saddens me when a product as buggy as this one gets out, and to top things off they are considering whether to patch it or not. Maybe is not fair to compare UBisoft with other companies, but it amazes me the HUGE differences between them and for example Thirdwire. Thirdwire makes the "lite" simulator series Strike Fighters, Wings over Vietnam, Wings Over Europe and First Eagles, great games (with some bugs like all software) but the guys there are still patching/upgrading their first release, Strike Fighters, which is... drumroll please... 5 years old!! That's right, release in 2002, but they still take ownership in their product... I think we would have more happy customers if companies took more ownership in their product, and not just the numbers...

The problem is UBI is not really concerned with a quality product. They want a product that they can market and make some jack on and then move on. I have seen UBI do this on many of its PC titles. If UBI is the distributor...its like the kiss of death for me, I stay away! I wait to see if they support it, chances are its left in a beta state. The way to get them to notice is were there heart is, their revenue.

[Grobschnitt]

Oh almost forgot.

Word is spreading..check out the front page.

http://www.bluesnews.com/

[JconradH]

We will all be very grateful.

Happy customers remain loyal customers...

:D

Jeff Hunt

[mavmcleod]

sign me in!:rock:

[Marcantilan]

1.3 Patch crusade: count me in!

[Maverick2799]

Count me In!!!:up:

[Phantom Mark]

Please give us patch 1.3 :damn:

[CV32]

The sim is good but please bring on patch 1.3. :yep:

[Berengal]

Dear UBI Soft

Last night my sub was sunk by two bombers because my air search radar doesn't work. Give me a working radar now, or I will send you angry letters.

Sincerely, Ltd. Com. Edgar Kain of the USS Drum

[GT182]

Neal, I hope you don't mind if I ask this. Were you one of the beta testers for SH4 and at what level? And seeing your site is one of the foremost sub sim sites for SH3 and 4, hopefully Ubi will listen to your input and request. Unless they don't take feedback from beta testers. In whch case me thinks all hope is lost, as it looks like they aren't listening to the public that bought it. And too, hopefully I'm wrong on that count. ;)

As I've said it's in Ubi's best interest to patch SH4 to a finished state to insure their own credibility with the gaming public. [SHIII should have been finished too, as we all know. ;)] Tho I'm afraid that more than one patch will be needed to do the complete fix. And 1.3 will not be enough only because of the size of the download, seeing it will also include the pervious patches.

[popeye]

popeye wants a finished game.

bump.

[CaptBC]

Hello UbiSoft;

I currently own three UbiSoft games. While I currently derive some enjoyment from Silent Hunter 4, I have also some frustration. There are numerous posts in this forum that address the issues involved, so I will not go into them here. I simply ask that the aformentioned issues are addressed in a timely manner. If there are problems dealing with these issues, as there may be with programming of this magnitude, then please inform your customers of your progress. In this case, no news is bad news. Thank you UbiSoft for bringing this simulation to us. Please follow through to make it all it can be!

Respectfully,

Robert Chamberlain
Lancaster, Ohio, USA
Capt. BC

[PAW]

Hooa

Cummon Ubi, you don't wanna let the old version beat the new.

[ironkross]

I've always thought of myself as a faithful fan of subsims. I bought Silent Hunter II, III and IV. I don't play a lot of other games; only one other currently. So I think I am somewhat dedicated to this form of entertainment. I understand the practice of rushing games such as Silent Hunter IV to the market, as there is pressure on the developer from the gaming community for the product as well as pressure from the publishers to get the product to store shelves on time. I accept that as "business as usual." There was even a much needed patch out before I had the game in my computer. That demonstrates how rushed the game was but I'm "OK" with that also, it happens.
What I will not accept is the developers and publishers giving up on their commitment to providing their customers with product satisfaction. You have sold us a product for entertainment. That is the business Ubisoft is in. If the product is basically bad and unentertaining, much like a bad movie, there is nothing more to do but learn and change. Silent Hunter IV is not like a bad movie. It's a great movie, but it's ending was left out. So if you could, wouldn't you go back and replace or re-edit the ending of the movie to make it complete and make it a fantastic movie? That is not just your job or your obligation. It's more than honoring a commitment to your customers to provide us entertainment. "Finishing the movie" is an idealism, a striving for a goal of excellence; it's a promise you made to yourselves, at some point. You can do that with just a patch! And have a lot more satisfied customers.
However if you give up your ideals, not to mention your obligations, you should just get out of the business. At the least you won't have mine anymore.
Thanks for the future patch which I am faithfully sure will follow soon.

[Joe S]

I wish I could list some things to fix but I havent been able to run the sim long enough to discover all the bugs. Joe S

[Skipjack]

When it is more challenging to play Silent Hunter 3 then the new release I'd say a patch is badly needed. Thanks Neil for the update on this issue -- I thought I had lost my touch and all this time the game has been flawed. Come on UbiSoft, help us loyal Silent Hunter players out. Skipjack

[Eternal Patrol]

Congratulations to Ubisoft on a fine submarine simulation must be withheld until at least the minimum standards of project completion have been met. Finish the job correctly, and regain your following.

[Chief]

Please don't move on before SH IV is right. 3rd patch is badly needed.

Thanks

Chief
USN/USCG Retired

[usafadam]

I love this series--except for the glaring fact that the Widescreen resolutions don't support the basic HD settings of 720p or 1080i--and the glaring craptastic bugs that you previously mentioned Neal. I've pretty much given up on this developer team and Ubisoft. Unless they patch all of the above, they won't get any more money from me.

[csg_enven]

Haven't posted on the forums in some time..I've been thwarted from playing SHIV from numerous sub-sim fans/friends who were let down, and feel that there is indefinitely...No hope.

I do not know what to say except for...SHIII still gives a great deal of gameplay value imo.

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What is UBI and the devs saying? Does anyone know for sure? (Regards to the patching)

[Cap]

Ahoy
For many years since the time of SH1 I have been a supporter of UBI's subsims.
SH2 was not ok and SH3 needed some time to mature but they were supported by UBI.com and from a great community of modders.
The community gave all the hinds a company can wish to get and all is supported by Neal whom I really thank for his great work.

For the first time in years I stopped playing UBI's subsim and will not go on as long as UBI is ignoring quality.
I am not interested in the money I payed for it but in the fun I could have if SH4 was patched a little bit more than it is.

This product is not complete and needs more patching by the developers.

Don't wait longer. Just do it.

[PPVAL]

Is a pity the SH4 ends its life as soon as it born…
The actual status of the simulator is unplayable because the bugs unresolved.
Patch 1.3 is must; otherwise the SH4 will lie in the bottom sea for ever.
Please do not leave the simulator at today level !!!

PPVAL (from Spain)

[dzoulias]

I am in favor of developing patch 1.3 to at least correct the most glaring and serious issues of this otherwise outstanding game.

dzoulias

[Condor96]

I dont know what goes on in Romania, but in the United States I think there are laws about truth in advertising and selling defective products.maybe the better business bureau sould look into this.

[Chamot]

I am a Deluxe copy owner of SHIV - I paid a total of approximately US$150 for it including shipping but unfortunately it's pretty much shelved now. I also own copies of Silent Hunter II and III, Destroyer Command, and really have been a loyal customer of UbiSoft as I like their other product lines and franchises, games that are not simply going for the easiest sells in the industry. Almost all of Ubi franchises have a substance and are closer a definition of what PC gaming has been about.

Unfortunately though, the recent releases from Ubi have started to be leaders in another tradition of PC gaming - unfinished products requiring numerous patches (which may or may not be released) to work properly or as advertised. This is a real shame as Ubi still offers the best AAA titles for the platform in my opininon but they are almost always released early to decrease costs or recoup them quickly, before the product is actually ready.

This is a real shame for games like Silent Hunter IV, games that have the potential to be real classics and revitalize genres but instead get forgotten as games are judged by customers and reviewers mostly on their release. I don't think Silent Hunter IV can realize the potential of what it could have been financially for UbiSoft anymore. Early releases kill games, yes; but lack of post release support kills franchises. I believe a properly fixed Silent Hunter IV could save the value of what UbiSoft have invested into the franchise until now.

Losing the franchise of Silent Hunter would be the biggest loss of Ubi in this story - a loss far greater than the cost of development of any patch, killing off the incredible work of the unlikely resurrection of a long thought dead franchise (and maybe genre) with SH3, and the respect of fans Ubi earned from that.

Please, give this game, this franchise and this community what it deserves - the more you put in, the more they will pay back to you. First step is AT LEAST one patch to fix the game.

Please, people at UbiSoft - this franchise can still live on and expand! It's all in your hands.

[Eyebiter]

Ubisoft should develop patch 1.3 for Silent Hunter 4. Consider the Silent Hunter III situation. Even though the game is a few years old it's still popular in the sub sim community. If you get Silent Hunter IV to a stable release with another patch, it's likely the mod community will eventually adapt that title as well. Encouraging user defined content is the best way to keep your game alive in the marketplace, selling new copies years after it's initial release. 1. Make Patch 1.3 2. .... 3. Profit!

[Mush Martin]

agreed another patch is required

MM:up:

[mantell]

On my first patrol I sunk more than 50kt , including 5 destroyers. Two of these I sunk using topedoes because they were just sitting there, flashing their lights, moving at perhaps 1-2kts. The 3 other ones I sunk using deck gun only. They hardly fired back at all. I remember at least 2 cases when I was trying to outrun one of them, constantly hitting it with the sternmounted deckgun. I was sure it was going to be over when the destroyer reached me and rammed my boat for half a minute. Well, it should have been over. A terrible noise, but hardly any damage! I just kept firing at it from point blank range, until eventually after taking nearly 20 hits, the destroyer exploded. By then I was getting bored. No fun playing a subsim in godmode (difficulty set to normal and realism 94%). I don't remember there being any other vessels nearby that could have caused any friendly firing issue, especially not while the desperate DD was ramming me.
I bought this game cause I really like subsims ever since SS on C64. But even then the AI made much more sense! I understand that technological progress comes with some issues, but still the AI of sh4 leaves me confused: Didn't anyone test even the simplest situations? Rookie Sub surfaced vs 3xDD: sub wins 3-0. That's a failed test.:down:


Patch please!!