Silent Hunter 4 patch v1.3: Where? When? What?

[atfcharger]

I've owned this game since the day it was released physically in the states. I was somewhat disappointed that my machine has some difficulty playing the game with everything maxxed out, as I love the visuals of SH3 and SH4. Once I got my game tweaked the way I wanted it to blend performance and quality I realized that my enthusiasm to continue on playing SH4 was seriously lacking with all the bugs that were present.

I agree that patches 1.1 and 1.2 fixed a lot of what kept me from even double-clicking the desktop shortcut at first. Even after that, however, I'm angry that as customers we essentially need to plead our cases to Ubisoft to fix the obviously apparent problems that remain. What's worse is that we post here in chorus with a number of review sites, many of them very prominent, that gave the game a lower score and even, themselves, pointed out the still remaining flaws!

You can't tell me that the leadership within Ubisoft doesn't troll through the net to see what people are saying about their games! I'm not just talking an owner or whatever; I'm talking about leadership at any level from programming leads to documentation/research leads or whoever. The fact that consumers are still talking about issues with a product and no apparent indication from Ubisoft to correct those issues isn't a more obvious example of execution and follow-through.

I don't want to say that I won't play the game until the bugs are fixed because that just gives them the ammo to say "Well we got his money anyway. Why make a patch if he's not playing the game?" I am still playing the game! And like everyone else I do want play a game that feels complete. The only way to do that is to make at least a third patch.

-Travis

[finchOU]

We need another patch!!

[abslayer]

This the same software devolper that made Pacific Fighters a WW2 fight sim??

They never did repair this game , game would not play on most game sticks , would not even take direct X imputs without this you could not program sticks to play flight sim and I swore I would never buy one of there games again.
Brand new game was not even usable . Only way you could play it was with keyboard , you ever hear of this type of problem in any other fly sim out there , inculding there other flight sims.
Ended up throughing game away , they left ever one hanging never ever got help from them.

I have Silent Hunter 111 never got 4 I do not trust them any more and after reading posts here with good reasons , sounds just like what happen with Pacific Fighters all over again , so do not get your hopes up , this is what they do now patch it a little bit but if there is biger problems that cost money to fix , well good luck.:damn:

[lavigne.mike]

Totally agree with this thread - UBI - it's time to fix this train wreck!!!

[MacGraham]

Please UBISOFT, finish the game!

[RavenOne]

Count me in with this one. Yeah yeah I know this is my first post on this
forum, but obviously there are legitimate concerns to be addressed.

Patch 1.3 :rock:is really an absolute must to bring this game up to standard.

RavenOne out.

[ref]

My vote too.

[Dreadnought99]

What do we want? PATCH 1.3
When do we want it? NOW!!!!

Either that or we all go back to SH3...

Cheers,
Dreadnought99

[Blarg]

I would buy from UBI again

If they do the patch

[neilbell]

Don't leave us users out in the cold - get this patch done for us.

[mabad]

Dear Ubisoft,

I wrote in this forum when SH IV was announced that I would wait until the game was fully patched. My experience with SH III was the first one, where I bought a game and had to be watching nearly on a daily basis on the net to see whether a patch to correct faults was issued. After weeks or waiting I gave up. In the end I downloaded, nearly a year later, a mod from the community to play the game... but that should not be the case.

I was looking here for the threads regarding SH IV, as I was supposing the SH III experience could be repeated. Hoping the company had learnt from errors in the past, I had the intention to buy SH IV at discounted price after a year of the issuing date: to compensate for SHIII.

In the case of SHIII: it is allright if modders patch a game and make it usable, but it is the professionality of a software company to produce a software that at least offers the functionality it announces, without having to re- re-patch the product to get a stable version (bottom line: without need of end user beta testing).

I am starting to think that Ubisoft is not the company to invest in this kind of simulation, as seems not to be learning from errors in the past (which is bad for the image you are projecting and for future projects of this kind you want to start).

To end my message, let me add my voice to the other members of the forum and request that you complete the product they bought (and that I could probably buy if you do it). If you don't, well.... it is up to you. For me it would be a "Goodbye for Ubisoft and Sub Simulations". Think that the competence does not sleep and if someone sees what the market is demanding and what the offer is, you are going to loose if you don't correct your ways. Nothing to say about the second thoughts we all might get at buying a new game from a company that repeatedly sends to the shelves not completely functional games, which do not get fixed because the teams get disbanded to work in other projects.

My two cents.

[Donner]

We need a third patch. Ubi please allow the developer's to finish the simulation.

[SubConscious]

I was one of the many who eagerly awaited Silent Hunter 4. I have learned, however, to be cautious about purchasing spin-offs of existing games.

The main reason for this is simple: I don’t like being an unwitting beta tester.

So when I read the reviews of Silent Hunter 4, I decided to wait until the UbiSoft team fixed the multitudinous bugs. I’m still waiting.

If there is a reason for UbiSoft to hustle on this and future patches it’s because of people like me. I’m the sort who will not only buy the game, I’ll buy the subsequent expansions and add-ons. I’ll also tell all my friends about the game and try to convince them to play it. One of my friends hosts LAN parties of up to 15 people. None of the regular players have SH4 yet.

They say time is money. In this case, it’s absolutely true. I won’t be buying the game until my SubSim compatriots are giving it two big thumbs up.

[SnowCajun]

Come on UBI, I didn't invest in your game to see you sit on your thumbs, I invested in it fully believing you'd support your product! Things need to be fixed, please continue on by updating and fixing Silent Hunter IV as we had faith in you that you would do, as any reputable game designer should do, and as their customers would expect them to do, especially if you want more of our money in the future.

SnowCajun

[stinger503]

woot signs we need patches

[Greggy_D]

Yes....another patch is needed Ubisoft.

[slow_n_ez]

Like I said a week after SH4 was released ... I won't play anymore until the game is playable .. Will hesitate about purchasing anymore UBI products until they stand behind their work ..........

[Nojoke]

Add my name to the list, please finish the job. Make it all it should and deserves to be...

Nojoke

[shipmodelmaker]

*Nods to Neal*

OK,
How do I vote?
Jerry G (Glickstein)

[Raedwulf]

I'm kinda tired of redoing the Commando Infiltration and having the poor guys paddle to shore upside down
Please release 1.3 update

[Capt RAP]

We Need patch #3..........Sooooooooo close but not ready yet!!
Patch # 3 PLEASE

Capt RAP

[sbelanoff]

Yes. We definitely need this patch and we definitely need these software companies to stop selling beta (and sometimes alpha) products as finished. If not, we can hit them where it hurts--right in their revenue!

[John Channing]

Signed in favour of patch 1.3

JCC

[MataHari]

The members of the SubSim community are people that not only want to have fun playing games, but also want to enjoy the feeling of being there while sitting at home. :cool:

That requires a realistic simulator, and I think UbiSoft realized it with the release of SH4. We all know that such a product can't be perect upon release. This is why the company should appreciate all the testing and recommandations we come up with to improve the quality of their product, because they couldn't afford a team of testers like SubSim. :up:

[robj250]

I agree with Neal Stevens.

Finish what you started Ubi. The Original Silent Hunter Commander Edition is what got me really into the game of submarine simulation, so I started a web site bragging about the game.

SHIV needs the new patch, you have thousands of dissappointed submarine customers. I have talked to many people about the SHIV and a lot of them told me they had to spend mega bucks to upgrade their computers just so they can play SHIV, so PLEASE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, GIVE US THE NEXT UPGRADE.

Rob (alias SUBGUY)

[bert8for3]

I'm still just playing sh3, but at some point I will play sh4 a bit, but it won't be until it's "complete". So I'm adding my vote for patch 3.

[Wayne Dryden]

UBI has turned out a tremendous product with SH 4 . As hard core gamers we undrstand and accept the fact that such undertaking are issued with flaws ,bugs and sometimes incomplete functionality . The modding comunity supports these better games at great expence of personal time for (free) trying to cure the short commings many times with great success . I personaly Love them all for their great efforts . UBI on the other hand must pay for the time that their programmers work on projects . Ubi must bear this expence and repair the issues such as manual targeting and other hard coded problems . Things beyond the scope of most of the modding comunity . I love the game and all of the eye candy but if we don't get reasonable support from Ubi on finishing what they started my vote will be cast on this subject at the cash regester in the future . Several companies have turned out interesting products that I refuse to buy because they dropped the ball too soon on unfinished or buggy products .

Ubi please finish what you started and we will support you with our purchases of future products . Ignoring this problem can cause great distrust in you future projects .

[Werewolf13]

Neal's list is good.

I'd add that Ubi needs to fix the AA gun view on the GATO class boats. When looking out at a 90 degree port or starboard the sight is obstructed by the gun tub walls - in other words the POV is behind the walls so the walls get drawn and you can't see the sight anymore.

[SeaSprite]

Adding my voice to the chorus :). Patch please, pretty please!

[obierod]

I haven't purchased SH4 yet because i usually wait to see what other people think first. In this case all I can say I will not but this product without a 3rd patch.

[SmugFish]

Yup. It's not finished as is and they will certainly hurt their future sales if they leave it in this half-baked state...

[ScottD]

Patch it please!

[Ilpalazzo]

Yes Please! I am still waiting for the next patch. I haven't played in weeks. I am so sick of it. Almost everytime I find a convoy or task force they eventually all decide to sit there or slow to a crawl at 1knt. It makes the game too easy. Destroyers barely ever get to me. I take precautions and all but sometimes I try to get caught on purpose to see if they can kill me and they still fail most the time. There are still many bugs and all those problems put together have forced me to stop playing and wait for a next patch or super mod of somekind.

I really hope they've been secretly working on a super patch, otherwise just lame, JUST.......LAME. Come on!

[ATF 8 Ace]

This trend of releasing unfinished or unworkable games is something that the gaming community is starting to speak out against. If people buy a game they should reasonably be able to expect it to work - not be unplayable without major patching.

So Ubisoft, could you please fix the game for us and don't just take our money and run.

ATF 8 Ace

[Dixbee]

Agreed! Silent Hunter 4 has great potential but it just hasn't been quite realized yet. Modders can only do so much and they really shouldn't have to fix such fundamental issues anyway. As it stands the product is flawed and incomplete.

[KG_Jag]

The customer deserves a complete and stable product. What is done or not done now will affect future sales. A new patch is needed.

[HarleyRider]

I agree!!! This game definitely needs another patch. Along with what Neal said, there are also alot of other bugs that need to be addressed.

C'mon Ubisoft. Put your grey matter to work and help make this the best sub sim ever!!!

Cheers!!!

[Edward]

UBISOFT PLEASE fix this game :cool: One more patch to fix the nagging issues like the convoys that stop in their tracks when attacked and the chronometer would make this game perfect :D

Edward

[ThorGoLucky]

Here here, Neal.

Please finish the game, Ubisoft!

[Chief Dean]

Finish what you started UBI, the Silent Hunter Series has had a great reputation. It should be completed properly.

RDP

Absolutely and right on! Have supported this game from day one and want to continue.... Must be fixed to be "all it can be"

[mnordby]

Having not purchased SH4 yet, I can assure Ubisoft that I certainly WON'T buy it until these issues are resolved, and probably WILL after they are.

Why pay for something that's broken, and have to wait for it to get fixed?

[genen]

I've put gameplay on hold since finding a bug where engine damage repair results in a dead engine. This is a major problem! If engines get damages they will continue to work while repairs are going on, but as soon as repairs are complete, the engines are dead. No way to return to base or do anything.

[capnmike575]

I need to upgrade my computer ,but I bought the game anyway.

that was on faith the game would be in better shape then hunter III right out of the box , and would be great after the moders got to it.

from what I read ,the mod guys are trying to make it playable while ubi is off onto the next thing.

if this is true, I'm not not buying anything more from ubi.


patches are not free expansions, patches are covers for mistakes.

to need to issue one should be embarrassing.

to need to issue one and not is disgraceful.


if ubi hasn't the pride to finish the job, I have to much pride to buy the next game.

[Tricky]

I have waited to buy this game, pending the approval of my fellow subsimmers, and I have to say, I won't be buying it until I hear that people here are satisfied with the quality of the game.

Please, develop a 3rd patch for the above stated issues!

[Switch]

Please, patch the sim...

[Madcowz]

UBI,

stop selling unfinished games and please do the job properly.

You wouldn't like a decorator to come in and only undercoat your offices then charge you full whack for it?

Why then do you continue to release half finished games?

Won't be buying this game until it is:

A) finished
B) in the bargin bin and at a price that is relative to the quality


/Mad

[TwistedAdonis]

What they all said.

[sabre88]

2 months of patch support is not enough for any game, Ubisoft. Please, let the developers finish the game they started.

[Radikal]

As a reputable gaming software developer as Ubisoft has established itself as; one would expect them to be responsible for their product and equally responsive to their customer base that drives the bottom line. Silent Hunter 4 is in definate need of a v1.3 patch for problem areas in the game that have been thoroughly noted and discussed in this and other threads. I shouldn't doubt that Ubisoft has recognized this and is in the process fo planning the development and roll out of the next v1.3 patch. One can certainly hope.

[Munchausen]

I have every confidence the dev team will continue working on SH4 until they get it right ... and Ubi will support them as they do so.

Now, if you’ll excuse me. I’ve got to get back to teaching my pig how to fly.

[rabu]

I read the forums now before buying an expensive game.. I've been waiting on SH4 to get patched correctly and looks like I will keep waiting before buying

.:|\\

[milesjb]

I've been really looking forward to SH IV. Driving a U-Boat was fun but I really wanted to be in the Pacific in a Gato. SH III was a teriffic game and I expected it's successor to be equally well done. But I've learned with time to be cautious and so I hesitated purchasing it until I heard what the community had to say. Vey glad I've waited. And I'll continue to wait until Ubisoft finishes the job to this group' s satisfaction.:down:

Miles

[Quillan]

I bought the game the day it came out, and I'm having quite a lot of fun playing it, but it does still have issues that need a further patch to resolve. The modders can't do everything, nor should they have to.

[Gizzmoe]

A little bit late, but: /signed.

[Shigawire]

Hear Hear! We want patch Nr. 3 :yep:

[MobyGrape]

:|\\ Patch Please:ping:

[abb]

Haven't played any version in a few years. Whatever I was playing was really detailed and interesting and I learned how talented and devoted and knowledgeable a bunch of people out there were. Y'all put me to shame.

I may upgrade and play again someday, but one of the things that slowed me down before (eventually to a stop) was the bugs in the game. I'd patch it and then there would be other problems that were not there before. Here's to Ubisoft making their product everything it could and should be so as to attract an even larger customer base that has a fully functional simulation.

[Hawkeye]

I agree!!! This game definitely needs another patch. Along with what Neal said, there are also alot of other bugs that need to be addressed.

C'mon Ubisoft. Put your grey matter to work and help make this the best sub sim ever!!!

Cheers!!!


I totally agree.I've not played SH4 for awhile now as the sim needs to be finished.We've all spent good money and we should not be penalized for having bought the game the day it was released!Pleae fix it Ubisoft even though your record in the past has not been great!

[jorgedaniel]

I keep getting sent on the same mission. I have been ordered 3 times to photograph Osaka harbor. I enjoyed the challenge but I don't want to keep going there. I have completed this mission with little or no damage to my ship and have received many medals for the same. Please put out another patch to fix this problem. I also keep getting booted out of the program when I attack a ship with my deck gun, so I have been saving the game a lot. In fact every time before I attack a ship and after I put it down. This is a pain in the butt! I have all 4 games, so I don't think I am asking for too much to create another patch.

[Akula]

My sub is in desperate need of the v1.3 overhaul.

Ubi please service my sub so I can continue my war career.

Pretty please. With systems not working as it should, we could well loose this war....

[mfykes]

UBI, Thank you for stepping up to the plate and providing us with some of the best subsim software to date. Since the days of DOS, several software companies have produced a promising piece of software then vanish from the face of the earth. Stay with us, support us by providing continous updates, patches, and news. we need you UBI!

Mfykes

[uboat1]

Hello All,

first post here, although i'v been registerd for a while.

I definitely agree, We badly need a 1.3 patch! It gets my vote!

[Donavan]

/signed

[trlange]

Yes I agree we need a patch. Make the game at least as playable as 3 was!

[kludger]

Agree,another potential purchaser of SH4 here waiting for a fully functional patched product before buying... I continue to play SH3 GW in the meantime...

[dacoobob]

I'm yet another potential customer waiting on a completed game to make my purchase. Finish your game and I'll plunk my money down tomorrow!

[pensioned]

Just want to add my support to the cause.:up:

[Shimano]

If they fix the game with a 1.3 patch - then I´ll buy it.
Its that simple.
Shimano

[rfbranch]

Patch it please! I'm mroe than willing to be patient with a "not ready for primetime" initial release, but I do think it's unfair to never complete the product. Please adress the basic issues of gameplay with another patch!

[DeePsix501]

Don't let SH4 sink into nothing because you didn't finish patching the game. I too, call on Ubi to finish patching SH4 with a 1.3 patch.

[CoolHand]

we need a patch sooner then later. i put off playing anymore SHIV the past month or so because of the problems that Neal stated

[VoodooPriest]

Call to arms received, reporting for duty.

Although I'm still menacing the atlantic ocean, it really saddens me that the dodgy patch policy we already encountered with SH3 is continued on SH4, only in an even worse way.

UBI! If you don't want to lose the last bit of credit the people here have for you, at least give them a patch to bring the game to the state they have PAID for, which is nothing more than a correctly functioning game, but nothing less either.

[Mick W]

Count me in. If they finish this game perhaps i can stop playing SHIII for a while :up:

[rdahmes]

The Dev Team at UbiSoft has created spectacular subsims with SH3 and SH4 and they deserve credit for all their work.....BUT, as so aptly stated in previous posts, SH4 is an unfinished masterpiece. Would you honestly let your grandma sit on a rocker that was only partially completed? Would you let your child ride a trike with only 2 wheels on it?

Please UbiSoft, understand that you're so close to completion and don't "Give Up The Ship"!

rdahmes

[JerM]

We need patch 1.3. This sim has the chance to be great.

[boblj60]

Please. :rock:

[cklink]

Agreed Neal,

I have had had every version of SH (and every other one since Wolfpack), and while 3 was a huge upgrade over any subsim to date IMHO, SH4 feels like we went backwards overall. Many features I enjoyed in SH3 are non existant in the new and improved SH4. New tools, big deal - we had those in a mod within a month after SH3 release.

What's the short, after my 18 consecutive trip to the south china sea in campain mode - I've quit playing it and gone back to SH3 with mods. Another botched release by UBIsoft, becoming more of the norm from them.

Someone needs to drag the beancounters in here (or in a back alley), for a lesson on what their great strategy of rush to market for profit, followed up with not allocating resources to fix the game does for customers attitudes and potencial repeat business.

The game been shelved by me and after so many releases from UBI like this, if they don't fix it soon - I'll only be buying UBI titles once they hit the bargin bin at $9.99.

Regards'

Colonel Klink

[Dodger01]

/Signed

I'm enjoying SH4, but within the limits imposed on me by problems within the game itself, which I'm not overly fond of. Here's hoping for a new patch to address these PITA issues.

[Zinmar]

I haven't yet bought SH4 due to all the problems that I have read about in this community. I fully intend to not waste my money on a product that from everything I have seen and read has superior graphics but worthless in other respects. It took the modders to bring SH3 to the level that it should have been when released and is now a completely captivating game in my opinion (THANKS GWX :up: ) Why does UBI feel that releasing a product that is so faulty can be a good idea? They lauded to so many things but so far from everything I have read they have fallen far short. I can understand patches coming out to fix problems, after all, there are so many different systems out there that compatability and stability issues will arise. So my money will stay right in my pocket until UBI gets off their corporate behinds and allow the dev team to get this game to a sufficent level.

[captnmike]

Yes we need the next patch to correct some issues that make "wolves of the pacific" more user friendly. I would like to see more interfaceing with the crew and interior compartments such as an "engine room" and Captains cabin? The manual targeting also needs simplification?
Captnmike

[Neutrino 123]

I too wish for a 1.3 SHIV patch to resolve the serious bugs. I am waiting to play the game until this patch comes out.

[Badger6052]

May 19, 2007

To whom it may concern:

Gaming programmers would earn a lot more credibility if they would not foist off junk to the purchasing public just to cover their own poor capitalization. I am glad I have not purchased Silent Hunter 4, and don't plan to until I get a clean bill of health from Subsim on this product.

[Flybywire]

this will probably be the last game i buy from ubi since they release games in such bad shape.

[Deputy]

Hi!

I can't offer any testimony on whether SH IV is good or bad: I have held off purchasing the game after reading many independent reviews and player comments regarding the number and severity of bugs in the game.

I would like the game to be at least as mature (with regard to bugs that require developer intervention) as SH III was after its final patch before I purchase it, but it appears from player comments and feedback on V1.2 that SH IV is not quite there yet.

I think the game could be quite a worthy successor and improvement upon SH III and a game I would consider really worth buying, so I would like to encourage Ubisoft and the development team to make the necessary repairs and make available any information that would allow the modding community to take it from there, even if it takes another patch... or two.

Pablo

X2. I've been holding off for the same reasons. I appreciate the guys that took the plunge (no pun intended) and bought the game immediately after release. But I'm holding off until the game is at the same level as SHIII before spending the cash.

Dep

[kentcol]

We Need Patch 1.3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Direowlf]

Agreed. I wholeheartedly support this request.
Ubisoft, please continue to support development for SHIV in order to make it the best it can be.

Cheers,

Direwolf

[neilbyrne]

I have purchased and exhaustively played all previous SH versions. I have not yet purchased IV because of the mediocre reviews and heavy forum complaints about excessive , unpatched bugs and resultant gameplay frustrations. I won't purchase this game until the word is out that it's been patched to the point where the community is talking more about great patrols and less about what's wrong.
Cordially,
Neil Byrne
CAPT USN (Ret.)

[Ken Cloud]

Yes, I would really like to see the new patch, just to close a few problems.

Ken Cloud:|\\

[skullman86]

I remember when it was released and a WHOLE bunch of people were saying "don't worry they'll fix it", "the game is fine just play it", and "shut up, they'll patch it, don't worry"....etc and plenty pf people were pissed and weren't buying the positive reinforcement and everyone hated the complaint threads because "the game would get fixed" and that we should just be happy because it technically did run (not well but it does in fact run).

I've been thinking about that now and wondering where all the support went?Some random moderator says there might not be a 1.3 and all of the sudden we have a 40+ page petition for 1.3 :doh:........WHAT?!

I REALLY want to say "We told you so" but I don't want to be too much of a jerk, I just wanted to point out how everything is different now even though people could still easily side with Ubi, saying "they'll do the right thing" and so on.Personally the game was fun but I always thought it could've used more patching...You know, when I began GUESSING the speed of an enemy craft because it was more accurate :dead: :rotfl:

[Caseck]

Call your local cable operator and tell them...

"I want my 1.3!"

[davidaspy]

Come on now, finish the game. Patch it.

[vonDeez]

I too agree with what is being said in this thread.
Its unfortunate, but evey pc title that interests me happens to be a ubi-suck product.
And this is always the same dilemma,a decent game with tons of potential that never quite becomes as good as it should be........
Patch the goddamn sim already...
That is all
vonDeez
"death will come easy just close your eyes and dream of the friends you will see"

[esperdiv]

I cannot be considered a hard-core simmer. However, submarine games really interest me. I cannot, for the life of me, begin understanding complex procedures to determine target speed. I need it to work as advertised. The game has been on the shelf since day 1.

I really want to continue to support Ubi with silent hunter 5. However, my interest in submarine simulations will dwindle if I cannot even play sh4.

ESPER out...

[loreed]

This is an exceptional simulation game. It has the potentional to be a great one, have faith in it and keep it moving along the road to becoming a legend!:yep:

[RustySubmarine]

Count me in, we definately need ANY needed updates.

Rusty:p

[Zorg]

Yesterday I played multilayer game with two fellow (Spike and Mac) that I'm used to play with. Two Baloa and one Gato Class and we liked a lot our game. We were every time telling all the good of the new patch 1.2 and the nice graphic now that we were witness off. Everything was more stable. No crash, no boat up side down, no warping or just a little.

Still some torpedoes were turning around, some boats were nearly unsinkable and even hurt with many torpedoes, half submerged like us and were running at 16-18 knots after 20 minutes. Sometimes with half of the propellers stopped. And 1 hour to sink it, with imagine the number of amunition to load it. Some Carrier and boat attitude also .They reversed and stopped like a car without any inertia in less than a minute. No I don't think it does work this way even if I m not a specialist.

I think lot of good work have been made on this game and it still have some minor ajustment now to be done in order to get a final game. Ya this is true with all the gratitude for the SH4 team that developed for us this handsome game we hope the 1.3 on the table. Maybe also to add some small items in order to let the multiplayer experience much more fun. Ya small things at this stage of the game will give great amount of value.

I know asking to see the boat crew panicking and feel them to repair the boat in panic or grab prisoners for extra points are maybe a bit to much to ask, but it's not what I noticed that is missing from my point of view.

Zorg the Zorgy

PS: I still wonder why some details from SH3 were removed: Result details table and the select in order by column at the end of the game.

[skullman86]

I don't want to see SH5, not that they'll make one anyway.I would rather see a submarine sim made by someone else who is capable of providing decent or better support and a decent work schedule for the developers so it doesn't end up like crap.

[davejb]

SH4 is desperately in need of some official fixing, without the incredible support of the modding community SH4 woul still be unplayable - as it is the game has managed to lose my interest by throwing so many glaringly stupid things into the mix that I realised it was more frustrating than entertaining. The contrast in support between UBI and other companies I buy from is marked.
Dave

[MothBalls]

The decision UBI makes to finish this game will affect my decision to purchase any more UBI products.

[U-161]

Though Ace of the deep was a realistic simulation game, SH3 was not a realistic simulation game.
I do not purchase SH4 yet because I was disappointed by SH3.
I hope ubi can fix the problem.

[U-3816]

I shall heartily give my agreement to Neal on a patch for Silent Hunter IV. I am a veteran of the old days, when we struggled through the multiple bugs and disappointments of the then-famous Silent Hunter II. For two sims I have travelled the seas as a Kaleu, driving a rusted, weatherbeaten VIIC across the Atlantic. Let us now have the completion of patch 1.3, in order that the return to the classical American submarine might be a return to excellence in the Pacific-and a mark up for the development team of Ubisoft. Let us not have another pre-patch Silent Hunter II on our hands, but a well-developed and fully-armed boat for the Pacific theater. My regards to Neal and any old salts who may still be here; I have not been here for a long time. Auf Wiedersehen, until the next sailing. To Ubisoft, this: Silent Hunter III was a step up. Please continue to return to excellence when you develop a new subsim. Danke.

The U-3816.

[gatlin7]

So close yet so far away. C'mon Ubisoft! Patch it!

[Justinof]

I agree Neal's statement.
I had played and enjoyed SH3 a lot, but SH4 is far from be a completed and worthy game. Customers needs better attention from UbiSoft, or the softhouse will lose their support.

[RDDR]

When I purchased SHIV and saw what a flawed piece of work it was I was furious.

Probably more than some others,never the less I tried to cool off and listened to posters,with the hope that some patching would repair this potentially wonderful simulation which at the moment is not close to wonderful at all..
We have now had two patches released.
The first one after all the initial noise and (rightful) disappointment from customers,and the second one after more continous frustration that SHIV was still far from being a stable platform that it "should" be.
The owness is on your Dev team to fix this .
In closing I ask Ubisoft directly the question,"Why do you think Oleg Maddox is held in so much respect by gamers that have bought his flight sims?

[canine9]

come on ubi give us a fix soon where is patch 1.3

[sourisnoir]

I usually stay at periscope depth around here, but have come to the surface for this important issue.

I have been at sea in SHIII for a long time - occasionally coming back to port for patches, upgrades, and to clean the salty spray from my deck (desk). It's truly a great game.
But all the hoohaw about troubles with IV have kept me in the Atlantic.
My father was in the US navy and sailed widely in the Pacific. I spent my childhood reading about WWII Pacific Theater and visiting wide-eyed the monuments in Hawaii. One of my favorite things as a kid was to visit the periscope installed at the Burke Museum in Seattle and sweep the horizon.

I suppose I'm the type that should have just bought the darn thing and muddled through. But I see the frustration others have had and I just can not bring myself to fully support a product with these sort of issues still in the code.

AAAAAAAAAALLLAAAAAARM!!!!

Gotta go!!........

sourisnoir

[sourisnoir]

never mind. Just a trawler.

[OldDog]

Take her down, take her deep. Give her another patch!

[melltan]

I agree, a further patch is required before I will feel totally happy with this game.

[HardTicket]

yup couldn't agree more...getting tired of paying my hard earned $'s for programs that are half finished and then never gettin the support needed to get them running properly :nope: :down: ...c'mon UBI...make me believe again !!! :up: :rock:

[s.stormont]

The career bug did me in.

I started in Manilla in 1941. Went out on two patrols and Manilla was lost during the third patrol, so I had to dock in Australia. I get the message that a new sub is available and I get the Gato even though it is well before the date that it should be available according to flotilla.upc. Next mission has me starting from Pearl. I go out, complete all objectives, sink 110,000 tons, and return to Pearl (still before the April 18, 1942 date that Pearl is supposed to get the Gato) and get a message saying that I was mothballed for poor performance.

[Kingswat]

Ubi needs to either release a patch or make the game open source so people who care about it can make a patch. Sadly it won't happen because ubisoft seems to be in a competition with EA to become the worst game company ever.

[nerram]

make my radar work correctly like in sh1 please~

[robj250]

Though Ace of the deep was a realistic simulation gameI hope ubi can fix the problem.

As I am a very elderly person, I have played every submarine simulation; as this aspect of our "history" is fascinating and will grab some people into a new realm of simulation. However, the earlier games had problems, but they were at least playable and some where even patched.

After having a great time playing the original Silent Hunter Command, I heard that SH2 and Destroyer Command were such a great single campaign or multiplayer player game, so I purchased them. I was very sadly disappointed. I open and installed SH2 and when I started to play it, the colours were NOT correct. Whoever heard of a brown sea on which to play on. That was it, I shelved both of them.

Aces of the Deep (Command version) was fantastic for that time of year as a naval simulation where the submarine was the prime character. I spent many an hour(s) playing the game instead of doing my work (like marking student papers). I would be caught up in it so much that I would play for HOURS, many long into the night.

You (Ubisoft) have now disappointed me with SH3, which many developers within the Subsim forum had to fix many, many problems, howerver, there are still hard core problems in the original product that our developers cannot repaire and therefore need to be fixed.

Now you come out with a product, on a rushed release date, which has made many submarine simulation players very, very unhappy with the sloppy product you release, which is really below the standards which you indicated in your advertisements made the SH IV worth buying.

Well, I have heard from people around the globe, plus the people in this forum, discuss the problems in SH IV; so naturally I will not purchase any further games from you (Ubisoft). After I purchased SHIII, I had to upgrade my computer in order to play it, and being a person on a government pension, simply cannot afford to fork out to keep up with the gaming developers. After I upgraded to the recommended requirements, I still had problems and I had many email correspondence in trying to repair the problem I was having. Well, I would like to inform you that your technical "SUPPORT" were unable to solve my problem. I can tell you though, that it was so much a simple matter, that a member of the subsim forum was able to solve the problem for me and now the game (as it is) works, with some hardcore bugs.

So I beg you, PLEASE come out with the necessary patche(s) to make your very well promoted game, PLAYABLE.

I support Neal and all the other people that have responded in this thread, in getting down on my weak knees and asking you to please LET and SUPPORT your team of developers in coming out with a great patch to make SH IV something to remember, before I leave this earth.

[home2day]

I've purchased and played all the the Silent Hunter submarine simulations. With each new version, I've been excited, even at the expense of upgrading my computer to meet the new requirements. Now SHIV is outstanding, but it was rushed to the market place...... Patches 1 & 2 made vast improvements. Please take the final steps to complete this great gaming experience.

[BeRetta]

Dont even try to get away with just releasing two patches for this game. It is not even close to finish as it is now. Way to many glitches and annoyances! Start working on the radar issue for instance!

[kanolsen]

The game should be a game in development, as there always will be fixes to be made. It will make many people happy.

Kanolsen

[WWSandMan]

Signing the pettition for a v1.3 patch to correct the myriad issues that still exist in SH4.

To see list of issues that need correcting, just look at the list of gameplay fixes created by the modding community. Requiring the purchasing public to fix what should have been done correctly in the first place is, at best, highly annoying. And there continues to be issues that even the most talented modders can't completely repair (surface radar anyone? ). The modding community should have it's sights set on adding content to the game, not fixing basic flaws.

Patch 1.3 is needed for SH4 to come closer to being a finished product, and worth the purchase price. How many customers have been lost because they read about all the inconsistancies and errors present? You would think the fourth title in a series spanning (how many years?) would be immaculately polished and ready to play out of the box.

Two patches later the community is forced to resort to pettitioning the publisher for another patch. :down:

Take a step back in time to the days when publishers and developers took pride in their work, and it was taken for granted that they would stand behind their product. Dedication to making the product as complete and polished as possible was what brought customers back to buy other titles. And is what keeps older titles on the 'still playing' lists.

[Thepolack]

I can't even play this game !! I cannot play for a half hour or so without the game completely crashing. I have had this game since the day it came out and I haven't even been able to finish one patrol. Taking our money and issuing a game like this with all these bugs borders on fraud in my opinion. Fix it or give me money back ! The same was for Silent Hunter III until finally after about a year it was good to go.
Shame !

[andym]

lets get it 100% right,i vote for the patch as well.

[Oli]

+1000 !

[grafix7]

I support this push for further patching 100%. Ubi, please finish what you've began...

[Mouseketeer]

What I can say more that wasn't said here?
Sign me in, there is a lot of potnetial in this game that can be unleashed with this much needed patch.

[LorenzoDV]

I agree: please bring us patch 1.3.
And I add that games of any genre should not get green light for release until properly tested.

[Newport]

sign me up!!!

[Dogster]

I agree with Neal, This game needs another patch. At least make it perform the way manual states it should perform. From my point of view I paid $60 for a beta version and after 2 patches its just a better beta version. I'm somewhat new to gaming and this is the first game I've bought off UBI. I will think twice before I rush out and buying a new release from this company again.

This is my first Subsim and if it wasn't for this forum and the help of you guys, I would have put this game on the shelf. I wouldn't of had a clue on how to play it. That manual is all but useless, a lot of serious omissions(controlling the sonar! etc....).

So I hope UBI does the right thing and finishes their product.

[U522]

While I am always amazed and impressed that the community of fans and modders can make so much from so little raw material, SH4 should have been so much more from the beginning! Ubi should have learned from the mistakes of SH3 (especially when so much of SH3 is still hiding under the skin of this sim).
Patch 1.3 is absolutely required to restore the faith of a beleaguered community.

[Lucretius Grazer]

I would like to ask Ubisoft to please fixe SH4.

Please release another patch and complete the game.

Sebastian "Grazer" Rust
Springfield, MO
USA

[Szut]

I am quite disappointed that development team don't try to create with SH IV customers the confidence between Ubisoft and the players that exists for example with Il-2 ,which was also published by Ubisoft though .

I believe that such games (simulations) don't worth playing it until they are not FULLY fonctionnal.

So we really need a complete third patch which should fix every known bugs.

[Athanase]

Please
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Thankyou

[Skipper John]

I appreciate Pablo's post -- I too have not purchased SH4 because of the user community comments (although I am dying to). Do the right thing Ubisoft -- bring SH4 back to the repair dock and fix it. Then I'll consider a purchase.
Bring back Red Storm Rising!
- Skipper John.

[Stryck_9]

Signed as stated patch 1.3 is needed

I have not purchased SH4 and will not until the community endorses it.

:) long time lurker first post wheeee

[StkNRdr]

It is time to fix the bugs in SH4. I am tired of work arounds and have played it less frequently as a result. Any future purchases from UBI will be after at least a 3 month wait after the release to see what is said in forums. Had I done that with SH4 I would not have bought it. I do not recommend this product to friends in its current condition.

A very comprehensive Patch 1.3 is needed NOW.

[baxter]

I have been waiting for this 3rd patch before I buy SH4. I'm patient but Ubisoft is losing business. There are many like me who after years of gaming experience know better than to buy something until most of the problems have been corrected with patches. We need patch 1.3!

[HTX386]

It is time to fix the bugs in SH4. I am tired of work arounds and have played it less frequently as a result. Any future purchases from UBI will be after at least a 3 month wait after the release to see what is said in forums. Had I done that with SH4 I would not have bought it. I do not recommend this product to friends in its current condition.

A very comprehensive Patch 1.3 is needed NOW.

Hear, hear!

[sinner6]

Please follow through and complete this game.

[REAPER_MAN]

/signed too

[kgwanchos]

Yeah real pity bout this game I never purchased as it just sound a real mess.... would be temped if it was patched tho :hmm:

[jas39]

i support Neal!

[peckerwrecker]

I agree that SH4 needs to be patched. In it's current state it is only 60% playable. UBI, don't screw up this game like you have so many others because you got lazy and decided not to continue providing patches.

[j.faller]

We need patch 1.3 now

[lallous]

/signed :up:

[jimcarrel]

Surely another patch is forthcoming,,, it is greatly needed! When the sim becomes stabel, I shall buy!
JimC.

[Convoystalker]

I agree the game in it's present form even with Patch V1.2 is still unfinished and requires further remedial work to attain a standard worth calling release.

Mysterious critical failures & sinking of sub when damage indicator shows sub fully intact.

Mysterious critical damage & loss of sub when resting on sea floor in shallow water ????

Inadequate damage control screen.

Early career terminations.

Repetitive missions.

Mysterious lost sub messages & demotions to lower grade sub when returning to base. If you managed to return to base how can you have lost your boat ? :)

Crazy numbers of air attacks in some map locations.

Air attacks in mid ocean by land based planes well out of the range of airbases.

Repetitive convoy composition.

Insufficient variety of mechant vessels.

Developers. Please work on patch V1.3 to sort out these issues.

[Wulfmann]

When ShIV was announced and all were making their request I made a simple one.
Just make it work right without needing a patch.

Obviously that did not happen.

What else that did not happen is I did not purchase the game.

So when will I buy this?
When it has been fixed!

Verstanden?

Why ask in German?

Because I will still be playing SH3-GWX until you fix it and if I have to wait for the community to fix it I will likely get it for 5 bucks used and you will not profit!

There are many like myself that insist on buying this when it is right or not at all.

It is up to you if you want our money.

Hear that?---------------------- No?; of course not.
It was the Ka-ching sound of money not going into your account in spite of the fact I want to give you that money.

Wulfmann

[Silverfox18]

Well, another reason we need another patch might be to clear up something that happened to me on patrol #6 near Rabul. It just STUNNED ME! I see a US task Force and join it...there were several US destroyers, light cruisers, cruisers, heavy cruisers, and what looked like N. Carolina class BB's. No Carriers. So a Japaneese air raid ensues...my sub is the only one shooting at incoming air craft. WTF is that all about? I end up getting sunk by several aircraft with only ME firing at them! I know for a fact that in SH III friendly ships fired back at incoming enemy aircraft. I just cannot figure this one out. There are just too many aspects of this sim that make it almost un-playable. Way too many crashes etc. I could go on here forever by needless to say...something needs to be done by devs or the SS community! Help! THis is NUTS! :down:

[melendir]

I agree that more patching is needed for Silent Hunter 4.

I bought the Silent Hunter 4 Collector's Edition, but at Silent Hunter 4's current state I prefer to play Silent Hunter 3.
I try to play Silent Hunter 4 from time to time, but it always starts to annoy so much to see how much there is potential and to see it's wasted because of things not working correctly. :shifty:

If there's no more patches for Silent Hunter 4 that corrects things, I will definately feel ripped off :down:

[Snuffy]

I concurr ... there are things that need to be examined at least one more time by the producers and programmers of this sim.

Please, 1.3 isn't too much to ask now is it?

Thanks.

[Kurek]

Posting my support. :yep:

[Sub Libertate Quietem]

I currently am not playing SH: Wolves of the Pacific. While the game looks fantastic, and has incredible potential, it just isn't quite there yet. I am confident that the Dev Team will fix the problems; after all, they patched SH3 all the way up to 1.4b.
My brother is an ardent fan of the Silent Hunter series. He actually was the one who got me interested in it. I have advised him to hold off on buying the game until it has been fixed. I told him it looks incredible, but until it has been adequately patched, it will just serve to frustrate.

[K-61]

Give us at least one more patch. 1.3 or you'll never see me for eternity.

[stuka01]

Of course, we need at least patch 1.3, if they don't for me it will be like Ubisoft make fun of us :nope:

I'm totally with you Neal :up:

[Immacolata]

Give us at least one more patch. 1.3 or you'll never see me for eternity.


Ill not be that categorical. I'll not hesitate to buy an ubi game if the quality is okay. Which means I know from boards or friends that no serious flaws are present, or that sufficient patching has taken place.

If Ubi wants to beat EA they REALLY have to start doing some better after-sales support with patches. And invest in QA.

[Detonator]

Where's this bloody patch then?

Why do Betty BOMBERS just do straffing runs?

Why do Zero FIGHTERS have more bombs than they could get off the ground with?

Why does it take ages to open the clipboard when i'm weeks into a mission?

What's with the chronometer?

Why if I save my career 2 weeks into a mission with a ship in sight does it take 4 minutes with the "Please Wait" screen on before it starts?

Why can I fire the deck gun under water in a heavy sea, when the crew have more sense than to man the gun?

Why is it a flat calm when I save the game and a storm when I load it?

Why did I spend £35 on a beta version?

[Thumper44]

I purchased the grand delux version, one of the 3,000, as soon as it was available. The metal box sits beside my desk ... awaiting a final patch to make the game 'all that it can be,' to quote someone's recruiting slogan. Let's see it happen.

[henriksultan]

/sign :smug:

Sorry to say, love the game and the serie with is the greatest sim ever! :up:
Please give us som word on what you are doing atleast. we deserve that...

[Rotor]

Fix the game please - show some fighting spirit.

[kgsan]

Another vote for a patch 1.3

[buck28]

Yes please; come out with patch 1.3. This game, I, like everyone else, have been waiting for, for so long....But it has more bugs than a Tennessee ant hill. When you fit for SD radar, where do you find it? and how does it work????? Don't fit with twin AA guns, if you do your head is stuck in a bulkhead with no view, while the aircraft attack. One of my favorite pastimes in SH3 was the sound room and radio room. What happened?? Obviously the sound of distant propellers were not important to the U.S. Sub's? The sound room (sonar), radio room, and radar room are gone in this game as far as I'm concerened. All you can do there is look around. Nothing is functional as far as I know.
This is an OK game, but could have been a Great War Sim. I find myself back at SH3 playing it. (thanks to the Grey Wolves).
One last thing, everytime I try to change the realism settings, (in port mind you) they don't take. The only way they work is with a complete career restart??? Please wake me when this game is fixed. It's to bad the company makes all the money on an incomplete release, and it takes the mod maker comunity to correct the many problems.

[cmacq]

Adding my name to the cause.....let's go with that patch folks. Don't leave us languishing in the wilderness

[0ldTimer]

1.3 gets my vote

[cowboys98]

this is why

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/8519/ship1fa8.th.jpg (http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ship1fa8.jpg)







http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9697/ship2ml4.th.jpg (http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ship2ml4.jpg)




http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2721/ship3dc6.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ship3dc6.jpg)

this is a destroyer that was sinking and it went right thru the sub.

stuff like this needs to be fix,we need the patch right now!

[flea]

One more vote for a new patch!!!

...its impossible that Ubisoft can do it worse than EASports and I hope they confirm that with the release of a new patch!!!

Greets

[HunterKiller]

I'm a fan of the Silent Hunter subsims and I own a copy of the latest release, Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific. I agree that it is in need of another patch, at least to address the issues mentioned in the original post, and to further polish the game to bring it back up to the standards that this fine franchise of subsims is known for.

I. along with the many other dedicated subsimmers here, respectfully request another patch to Silent Hunter 4 (Wolves of the Pacific). Thank you.

[Typhaon]

Please UBISOFT, finish Silent Hunter IV!
It would be a shame, if such a great series of games would end like this... unwanted and forgotten by the developers. The community thinks to have been fooled by UBISOFT and many have lost faith in the company. DO NOT LET THEM BE RIGHT!
There are still many people out there who believe in the completition of SH4, who love this game and who want it complete, as they have paid a complete price for this product!

[blue3golf]

I'm all for the patch!

[deacon211]

I agree with the rest. Absolutely great game and a solid effort on the first two patches. But we really need one more to put this in the "classic we'll be playing for years" and more importantly the "highly supported game so I have full confidence in the next one" category.

Come on Ubi; the finish line is in sight. Don't give up now!!! :up:

LtCol K. A. "Deacon" Swanick USMC

[Doolan]

One more vote for the patch!

I love the game, dearly, and play it often. However, it's still a bit far from delivering what it should. Patch 1.2 was good, but it left many important bugs out.

[Malt]

I support Neal's statement.

[RoyalHighlander]

Myself, what I would dearly love to see is at least a responce from ubisoft that
A) Yes a patch is in the works
B) but it may take some time to release it as we are hard at work looking to fix all the issues that have been brought to our attention by all the sub simmers and loyal customers of our products.
Saying that we are at work designing a patch that will be the only patch that you good people will need so with that being said give us the time to do it right...




NOW.. If that was the answer they would give us we could find other things to piss and moan about... Like the girl friend not putting oput and other less important items.. But at least let the public know that you are doing something about the issues... Thats all

[QU-3]

Will the 1.3 patch fix the "cannot connect the internet" message without me having to change port settings?

[greywolf39]

I agree with all...continued patches are needeed. I have special problem with in career mode not being able to finish an assignment after sailing all around for hours within the area starred as my objective. Also the antiaircraft gun in the Gato seems like I am sitting in a bucket and my arc is stopped by hitting the sub center.
Also why can't I use the torpedo cam in the career part of the game??:nope:

[Engel der Vernichtung]

Interesting. I got an e-mail on this, which is really interesting, considering I don't even have SH4...

[MrOblongo]

My support to this :up::arrgh!:

[santini812]

Don't abandon this great series, with work this could be the greatest sub sim ever. Patch the game!

[Thulin]

I agree.

[Gildor]

Please work at patching this game and make it even better.

[hellas1]

Hello all, I put in my vote for a new patch.It IS sorely needed.Please release it.hellas1

[Echelon1010000]

/signed:
It would be a great great pity if this longlasting series would go down.
I'm with the Silent Hunter series from the first days and I think SH4 needs a 1.3 patch to make it the state of the art subsim it could be and should be.

regards,
Echelon

[SamF7]

/signed
There are so many things that modders CAN do
and things modders CAN'T do.

I'm hoping a patch can correct a lot of the things the modders CAN'T fix.

SamF7

[Stan Lingard]

Come on Ubisoft, finish the game!

[Basto]

signed

[Charlie901]

Patch 1.3 Is Mandatory For The Current State Of This Game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chief of the Boat]

Well... I dunno HOW many patches this thing is going to need, but I'd damn sure like to play an American Sub... that was at LEAST as good as that @#$% Nazi boat.

If this is The Last Submarine Game, so be it... but make it a GOOD 'Last Submarine Game'

COB

[hyperstork]

Please patch this game, Ubi. It's potential is great, and there are a lot of fans here.

[pilpoilsl]

The speed calculation with the TDC that does not work correctly is the to have a 3 legs horse !
I really like SH, I am a bit desapointed with the problems encountered with SH4, how the developers have tested the TDC stadimeter ?.

It is really difficult to estimate the ship's speed manually - for me I mean :-) - so I have re-install the SH3.

I think that this patch is crucial for the credibility of UBI and facing the quality they claim about their products.

the patch , the patch , the patch !!!!

[jlwalker]

It's coming up on two months since Silent Hunter 4 was released. Two patches have brought the game up to where it is stable and most of the basic features are functional, but there are still several key aspects that need attention and it's too quiet in the Ubisoft camp. I have not heard anything about the status of a third patch, which the game needs to be considered complete. Before the dev team gets too far from the construction site, Subsim is going to mount a campaign for patch v1.3. Silent Hunter 4 is an enjoyable game but has yet to reach the point where we consider it complete. The future of the Silent Hunter franchise depends on maintaining a reputation for quality.

We call on Ubisoft to complete Silent Hunter 4. We don't expect every wish to be fulfilled, but there are several key gameplay issues that loyal players and Ubisoft customers, who bought an incomplete game, deserve to have addressed. These include:

All AI needs tweaking, too often merchant ships all come to a stop and muddle around when under attack. Destroyers guarding merchants and especially in task forces occasionally seem somewhat uninterested in firing back. The Subchaser is unable to fire its main gun at all. If you mod the Subchaser to have a second gun in a raised position where the AA gun is it will fire this gun. The Akizuki DD has a similar issue, of the four guns it has only the two guns on the raised platforms actually fire. When the boat is rammed by a destroyer (for example) the destroyer generally comes of worse and often explodes.

Units of measurement: Imperial units for ship dimensions, torpedo depth gauge, range figure in the TDC and Position Keeper, all UOM issues need to be resolved.

Campaign retirement – feature or bug? Bug. Suggestion that it should be optional.

Repetitive patrols still get assigned.

Chronometer still doesn’t work as described in the manual. “The Chronometer bug”, this needs a quick and dirty fix, just a simple speed response in the text box when the Speed button is selected in the TDC, as occurs when the player clicks the Depth Beneath Keel button. But, importantly, the player should still have the choice of manually entering his own speed estimate in the TDC.

Radar needs finishing touches. It doesn't work when heading South 90deg to 270deg. Is SD radar fixed? Does is not detect ships but will detect aircraft? Also, when SD radar fitted there is no A scope display. We need your help to demonstrate the need for patch 1.3. Join the campaign here and make yourself heard. Post here. Don't hesitate or put it off. This thread will need hundreds of names to merit any attention.

To vote, simply make a reply in this thread and add your thoughts.


Neal Stevens
Subsim

Other issues and discussion can be found in this topic. (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=531615#post531615)


Thank you Neal....I am in agreement and want to add my name to the campaign to have UBI fix the major remaining problems with SH4. We need the 1.3 patch ASAP.

Thanks again

Jlwalker

[Bob007]

Hey UBI! How about releasing a new patch to correct all of the problems! I really enjoy the sub series, but would like to get the "fixes" done.

Thanks,

Bob007

[Hmasdog]

"PLEASE UBISOFT PUT A FLARE UP IF THERE IS A V1.3 IN THE WATER HOMING IN ON OUR WAKE'S , and if not can you please have a look through the periscope at doing a patch for what could be one of your GREATEST games with a little TLC."

I Know that you do care about your products, and have so many fish in the water to track, but this game series has a more loyal following than most other Ubisoft products from my experience, as I purchase many of your games!
And I don't usually post in this forum due to other Commitments ATM
so it has to be something important for me to do so, and a SH4 REFIT is a reason as it is a game with such potential and gives you an Older audience as well as the younger Gamers, in your fan base Demographic! - So the Upshot is don't let this game/Sim sink without trace and no lifeboat in sight PLEASE!!!:cry:

Also while your at it could you include an Option to fit a MK48 ADCAP 7 in my BOAT thanks :o

REGARDS AND FULL AHEAD - Hmasdog:arrgh!:

[MarkShot]

As a customer who bought SH4, I want to see that the game is completed to a level that the stock game is stable, fully functional, and provides reasonable game play. Having not waited, but bought SH4 a couple of weeks after its release, whether there is a 1.3 patch and its corresponding quality will have a big impact on if I should buy future UBI titles or not.

Do the right thing!

[DCOg]

I agree. I love this game but think it can be made so much better.

DCOg

[SleazeyWombat]

I was really looking forward to this game. I found SH III a great game worth many many hours of play. The thought of doing it again in the Pacific theater was something I felt would be even better.

I assumed that the work done by modders on SH3, and the experience of the development team would promise a major improvement in gameplay, realism, and enjoyment.

Unfortunately, that promise is still unfullfilled. I had my copy of SH4 on preorder weeks before it was shipping. I received mine the very first week. I only played it a few times before the obvious bugs and incomplete features made me decide that there was no point in playing until the game had been fixed.

Each patch has improved the game, but it still has some major deficiencies. At this point, I still consider the game incomplete, and not worth investing much play time.

I think it can be fixed, and must be fixed, to be a worthwhile followup to SH3. It would be a shame to leave SH4 in the current state.

[mhethco]

I think Silent Hunter IV is a brilliant simulation that deserves to be a workable sim. In my opinion, it is a definite improvement over Silent Hunter III in many ways. Please produce a third patch so that Silent Hunter IV is functional in all respects.

mhethco :D

[mikwarleo]

sigh @ companies that release and make money off an unfinished product and waste the time of and cause frustration to their customers

fix it and get on with it ubi

:damn:

[Tigrone]

We all have made a huge investment and commitment over time to Silent Hunter and it's children. Silent Hunter 4, as today's Silent Hunter, could have repeated the huge success of the original, except for the failure to complete it. This, because of its attraction to the most important English language market, could have been a huge success for the developer. It's still not too late, and a comprehensive patch and knowledge by the community that it is coming can still boost it enormously. It can be saved.

[Depth Charge Dodger]

I am waiting faithfully for the customers who already have the game to be happy with the state of the game before purchasing SHIV. I still play SHIII, and enjoy it immensely.

If you finish it, they will come.



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[jkling17]

I am a HUGE fan of SH III, and still play it for HOURS regularly. I would absolutely buy SH IV in a second - but only after it gets the one additional round of tweaks that it needs.

[TheSatyr]

I also agree that SH4 is in need of at least one more patch.

I also feel that 2 patches in two months is a pretty damn good job. When I beta tested it once took us nearly a year just to get ONE patch out. (Course there was animosity between the Devs and the Publishers which didn't help matters).

What I DON'T want to see is this vote thing causing them to rush a poor and incomplete patch out the door just to placate this community. We need to have more patience than we are showing. If any of you have ever beta tested patches than you know how long the process can take and the more time spent on a patch the better the patch will be.

I would like to ask people who post in this thread to be polite both to Ubi and to the Dev team and treat them both with respect. One thing I learned was that while Devs (and publisher reps) do read forums they tend to ignore any thread that contains rants. Those are always counterproductive.

Finally,I would like to reiterate: Ubisoft,please give us at least one more patch for SH4. A small patch that fixes radar and stadimeter problems would make this game great. A large patch that fixes that,the AI and a few other things would make this game a masterpiece.

[firouz]

Hooked on SH3. Will buy SH4 when it works to the satisfaction of this community.

[Ruggo]

Haven't been around for a looooong time, but would like to cast my vote for those that play this game.

Come on UBI, you'd think that you could get it right for your loyal userbase. Still have a nasty taste in my mouth from SH2, don't let history repeat itself again......

[kiwi_2005]

Heres my vote for a 1.3 patch!

[milkshakeman]

I agree with above. I still play SH3 and if on the 28th of May Ubisoft decides not to continue doing bugfixes on SH4, I see no reason to spend money on something of which I already know it will not work properly.

[andyleroo]

I played the first Silent Hunter and tried to play Silent Hunter 2. I bought SH3 when it came out, and I'm still playing it. But I wouldn't be if it had remained as the game I first took out the package.
I was planning to buy SH4 until I read the reviews from pretty much every gaming site saying it was bug-riddled and in dire need of patching before it became half the game needed to suceed SH3. So currently I haven't bought it. If Ubi releases a patch or two so that the community have got something to work on, then I'll buy it. But if it remains in the state I've heard it's in, I'll consider it unplayable and stick to SH3.
It's a real pity that SH4 has been released too early, as I'm sure the devs would have done so much more if given time. At present, SH4 stands to be a real missed opportunity for Ubisoft.
The idea was to appeal to casual gamers? I've got three non-subsimming friends who've considered buying it but decided not to unless it's brought up to standard. Believe me, I want to have a game I can recommend to them so I can start to drag them into the world of naval simulation from which they will never escape! With a little more time and work, this could still become a great success story. Don't pull the plug, Ubi!

[Webchessie]

I believe SHIV has the potential to be a GREAT game when Ubisoft provides at least one more patch (or maybe two). Let's don't get them to do a rush job just to keep us happy . . .

. . . However Ubisoft does owe us reasonable time lines of when to expect improvement on products they sell if they want our repeat business.

Like Silent Hunter V.

[Bilbo226]

Right now the game is so close to being the great game it could be. Come on UBISoft, do the right thing! Make it so.

[fastfed]

Since SH4 was on the horizon I was nothing but stoked!!

Sadly when the game came out I tried to be positive, but just cannot.Until a new patch comes out I am stuck not playing it and playing SH3

[lm178]

I still enjoy playing SH3 with deep gratitude to the SubSim modding community but will not get enjoyment from SH4 until this broken game is fixed.
You can't build a house on a concret slab that's covered with cracks!

[Marmic]

I hope the developers feel that there is sufficient economic worth to get SH4 really "ship shape" by continuing to refine the current software and clean up the glitches. As former submariners, quality was a necessity, not a nice-a-ty....in equipment, people, and service. I do not believe this product should be any different.

Keep a quality product.....keep quality customers.

Marmic sends.

[TechnoJedi]

Here we are again as customers. There is a need for a patch--when one wouldn't be so desperately needed if real beta testing would've been done before going gold and shipped--yet there is silence from the developers.


Obviously "Silent Hunter 4" is considered 'nitch' by Ubisoft bean-counters and feel any more time 'wasted on a nitch game' is pointless because the game didn't sell into the millions and millions of units. But there is a flaw in Ubisoft's accounting office: usually units sell because the game is FUN, System Resource friendly, and STABLE (free from bugs). A game that fails in even one of these categories is doomed NOT to sell in the millions. BattleCruiser 3000 anyone?


Ubisoft has shipped a product that is not STABLE. As a result, they have placed the responsibility of fixing it onto the developers. If the product is so buggy that it needs several patches to fix because, as a developer once said, "There are so many issues to address that we cannot address them in just one patch" then obviously the game wasn't ready to sell!:nope: Even the June 2007 edition of PC Gamer in Andy Mahood's review of "Silent Hunter 4" on page 64 states in the Verdict section of the game's Low points: "A long list of bugs." Also in the review itself: "Regrettably, bugs, stability problems, and questionable design choices float around like sea mines laying in wait to sink your expericence." But Ubisoft sent out the game anyway and now they must fix it in order to keep customers happy enough to purchase future Ubisoft products as I have done in purchasing games from Ubisoft like "IL-2:1946".



Unlike customers that don't stick to a game genre for long or change genres on a whim and quick fix of thoughtless fun, 'nitch' customers are LOYAL and stick to their word of actually PURCHASING games because of the loyalty in sticking to a game that provides hours of fun (and escape) which is the point of even playing a game: to be entertained. Customers around the world pay in order to be entertained--just ask any webcam girl. When the entertainment becomes stale, expensive, or just not fun (or a hassle to play), customers take their money elsewhere.



In conclusion, Ubisoft has a responsibility to fix a game they sold to customers. Ubisoft, in order to keep customers, must see that products they sell are 99% (no one is perfect so there's wiggle room for them) fixed before moving on to other products or just dropping products because the product "doesn't sell in the millions." Ubisoft is in the business of making money, true business logic, but to be a business that STAYS in business, Ubisoft must keep their customers--even core, loyal customers--coming back to buy more Ubisoft games that are FUN, System friendly, and STABLE. Once Ubisoft turns a blind eye and a cold-shouldered back to a game, it means they will do that to any game that carries the Ubisoft name. That is why Ubisoft needs to not only send out a Patch v1.3 for "Silent Hunter 4" but see the product to completion (i.e. completely fixed) for the good of future Ubisoft products and the company itself.



Thank you for reading,
TechnoJedi aka Liberty A.U.

[BM357_Fuse]

S~ All reguarding future patch 1.3+

I believe that the Developers should react more with the community and listen to our needs. It only makes sense that if you want to sell products or services, then you should know what kind of products or services your public desires.

My best example would be Oleg Maddox's IL2 (Series). The developers cared enough to listen to the community, and respond from time to time with new Free patches, and free and paid addons.

It is for that reason that the simulation is now #1 in the field of all the WW2 Combat flight sim's as far as realism and flight modeling etc.

Folks, in a nutshell, people cared. And if people care and maintain a tight community here, and dont split or act like spoilt little children, in time they will be rewarded. Either from UBI or another developer will rise up to seize the spotlight and challenge them for that perticular sim.

I dont think most of us here are little children. I for one am 48 years old, and have been doing my simming for over 15 years now as a hobby.

UBI, I expect you will look at the responses here, and start taking some notice. All we want is no less than your best abilities to finish this sim correctly, and at some point after rendering what we have allready paid for, then continue to listen and come up with additional refinements from time to time.

I for one would be willing to pay extra later after the sim is finished, if you could create the entire submarines in 3D and make the control's to where the player could take over that position of the submarine. Inside flooding and animated characters in action would really add to the realism of the moment in 1x as often as I play that way.

Later addons could be released to enhance the game engine to make ships with 3D compartments and add them as well for players either on OR offline.

Just my 2 cents worth~

[oritpro]

I cannot believe we are begging Ubi to fix a game that should not have been released in the first place. In my opinion they owe it to their customers to fix the game so it performs as advertised.

This might seem harsh but think about it; we buy games on good faith and with the expectation that there are going to be a few bugs; however, there are certain parts of SHIV that do not work as advertised and in some cases do not work at all. For example, the box says "more realistic action than ever before." I would like to know what is so realistic about a Japanese destroyer completely ignoring me while I blow away the convoy they are supposed to protect. How about "Authentic and historically accurate U-boats, weapons, and equipment." If United States sub captains carried around the same chronometer found in SHIV we would all be speaking Japanese today.

When you buy a TV you expect it to work (as advertised) out of the box; and when it doesn't you take it back to the store. The same goes for a toaster, mp3 player, or computer accessories. When you buy software all you can do is HOPE that it works and if it doesn't HOPE that the developers fix it so you can enjoy your investment.

The software industry is out of control. We should not be begging that the product be fixed, we should demand it.

[Tigrone]

Comprehensive means that a casual, ordinary player, ought to be able to install the game, then apply a single patch and be able to play with major game play flaws. I don't understand why we are not getting there?

[Deep-Six]

If Neal says we need a patch, we need a patch. The game right now is stable, but bugs and such still need fixing.

my 0.02 pfg worth.:D

[TarJak]

I'm on board. One of the main reasons I've not bought the game is the bad reviews I've been reading hre and the view I've had from one of my mates who bought it when it first came out. Third patch is a much needed fix for some of the issues that are still in the game that need to be addressed.:yep:

[zzodr]

This game requires 1.3. so get cracking Ubi.

[Tim Burton]

I won't be picking this up till it is fixed.

[Chief_WH]

Hi all,

I will not be buying the game until a patch 1.3 comes out. I'm not saying this as some pathetic threat, I realise my money is insignificant to everyone except me, I'm just simply stating fact.

I was a late discoverer of SH III (due to word of mouth from someone who played the first one), so luckily all patches (and Grey Wolves) were out. And now (post patches) it is a great game, which I have now recommended to others to buy. But, word of mouth strongly suggests SH IV needs more work, so please work on another patch and I can then buy this game.

I'm not singling out SH IV as a particularly bad example of what seems to be the norm of releasing bugged games, in fact it's because I've only just been able to play another eagerly anticipated game that was flawed since it came out months ago that it is now my belief that it's best to wait a few/several months before buying games in future as you run the risk of completely wasting your money.

Regards,

Chief_WH.

[kola]

Definitely needs patch 1.3.

SH3 is awesome, SH4 not quite there yet!!

[subman603]

Ubi really needs to finish what they started , SH4 would be an awesome sim if they put as much effort into it as SH3. :damn: come on let's fix this thing

Subman603

[mrwinnie76]

Fix this game ! I paid for a complete simulation!

[tridentseal_56]

Ubi Plzs Take The Time To Bring Wolves Of The Pacific To A Higher Standard Gameing

[CDNSUB]

Please continue to offer patches for SHIV!
Release the SDK code for SHIII to the community so they can fix some of the bugs, i.e. weather, x-ray lighthouses etc...
My 2 cents worth...

[NealT]

To make this short and sweet...

Until UBISOFT releases anough patches to fix this game to the point to where it is playable at all times for me, I will not spend the money to buy it or upgrade my computer to where I can run it properly. I love subsim games and not having SH4 up to the level that I know it can be is quite disappointing.

[kb1esx]

I'm not buying until it's stable.

David

[mwren]

Although I am a constant skipper in SH3, having purchased at time of release and patched as they became available. I have not purchased SH4 to date (finances:damn: ) but have been keeping an eye on the progress of things.
I am almost at the point of purchase and had been heartened at the patches that have arrived but it appears there is some way to go.
Releasing patches for product seems to be the norm these days, but it's not right that the community becomes the testers.

Complete (patch) SH4 to a community acceptable level, and you will have one more sale and a happy community.

Thank you,
Mick

[JohnyRangr]

Come on Ubi don't do things half-ass like most developers.

[Fihnakis]

Also holding back purchase until I can read messages about people having a good time playing a stable game.

So sick of corporate a-holes releasing crap products.

[Wijbrandus]

1.3! 1.3! 1.3!

Aye, I'm in favor Skipper. :)

[ManTool]

When I give my orders, I prefer my subordinate look at me and nod when I request his attention and also repeat (mouth) the order I give him - just like in SH3. Is that too much to ask since that visual was all ready incorporated into SH3? I assumed it would be part a SH4 patch. This is a completely "missing" feature of the new game when compared to SH3 and as such, there most definitly needs to be a 1.3 patch to include it and bring us back to reality.

Sincerely - Capt. Mantool

[Onkel Neal]

UPDATE: May 19: We've nearly reached 1000 submissions since this thread started May 16 (Weds). Already, Google has this thread listed as the #5 result when you query silent hunter 4 patch (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=silent+hunter+4+patch&btnG=Google+Search)

Post this in any other forums you belong too. Be sure to vote in Ubi's poll. (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6421019045/m/3711041855) Are we serious? Yes, so let's make it happen.

thanks
Neal

[SinisterDexter]

I, too, would like a patch.

I do purchase games on their release dates and plan to get Team Fortess2 and Crysis when they are available. But, I can honestly say that I will not buy another Ubisoft product on or near its release date. I will instead wait until the suckers (which I currently consider myself to be) have posted their complaints and at least two patches have been released. I have learned my lesson with regard to Ubisoft.

Ubisoft has published some great games (FarCry, anyone?) but have also provided poor support to others (Splinter Cell: Double Agent - ported from Xbox360 and remains a buggy POS). I want to support good game developers that care about their product but, if they choose a lousy publisher I cannot continue to waste time and money on their efforts.

I don't know all of the isuues involved but, at the moment, I would like to see the SHIV team move to a different publisher and continue their efforts (under a new title, if need be).

[Torgen]

/signed!

Remember the motto of Election Day in Chicago:

"Vote early, and vote often!" :up:

[lanejl]

As only a matter of professionalism, the game should be made right by the designers. Afte all, this isn't Microsoft.

[Greg Wak]

I have put off buying the game as I do not see how full manual targeting can be done with the unit of measurment bug and the detecting speed bug. SH3 I could play to completion with no problem. It is very disapointing the series has taken a step backward. If these two issues are fixed, I will purchase the game immediatly

[bsub]

I want the 1.3 patch. The game is unfinished without it!!!

[Charos]

One patch with a side order of bug fixes to go thanks. :yep:

[inertia89]

I'm not buying the game until it is patched to fix these critical issues.

Cheers,

Fergus

[xanthos581]

Here's hoping Ubisoft will git-r-done.

[Bubbles68]

I can see this being a great game - it has a lot of potential and looks beautiful, but it is really annoying when things described in the manual just don't work.

Please give us 1.3 and further patches if necessary.

[Probex]

Fix the game. Keep the patches coming!



S!

[manitoba1073]

im in agreement with alot here, it needs fixing or i wont get it. I loved SH3 and was wanting to get SH4 but not with all the bugs that are in the game. BRING ON PATCH 1.3. plzz

[Docjonel]

We want the game that SHIV SHOULD be!
We need Patch 1.3 so that the manual is feature list, not a wish list!
We know you can do it, guys! :rock:

[achtungbaby1976]

I'd like to add my name to the clamouring masses. We need another patch to fix the remaining problems. Please just make it work the way it is supposed to!

[bill clarke]

Please fix these problems, I am overseas, and have yet to play this game, i have been eagerly awaiting it's release since before I went away, but don't want the experiance spoiled by bugs and glitch's.
Please UBISOFT, give us patch 1.3 :up:

[fpg909]

You have our fifty dollars. Please support your product and patch to fix its issues.

[Bum]

Yes, please UBI, don't leave us with a 7/8 finished SH4 and expect us to warmly receive SH5 in a few years. You did well with SH3, give us a more finished SH4. Enough is enough.

[ulysses]

we really need another patch !!! the game could be one of the best ever in the sims world, but actually is one of the worst !!! difficult gameplay ,horrible graphics and frames......a total failure. but it' fixible.....please release another patch !!!!

ulysses

[ruskoz]

For what its worth I havent bought SH4 yet for this very reason. I have learned from being involved in the past with a certain UBI product, be it at a small level that UBI pushs developers to get the titles out finished or not. I will not get near a UBI product until its been patched up and complete. The real kicker is that there are several titles out that are not ever going to be completed. SH4 might be one of them (I hope not)...i have seen UBI do this to many times. The only way to make them see the error of their greed is stop buying their beta versions. :dead:

[ruskoz]

Ah..1000th post.

[Bet]

Had this game preordered so buying it isn't an issue with me anymore. However, I have had the game shelved while waiting for another patch after the second one since it didn't resolve enough issues for me to be able to sit down and play it like I did with Silent Hunter 3. More patches for SH4 would be outstanding.