Silent Hunter 4 patch v1.3: Where? When? What?

[CaptainHunter]

I think Neal speaks for us all.

Thanks
Neal & SUBSIM.com

[shawnyp420]

yup

[Jeffg]

I agree tenfold that we need a 3ed patch.I love the sim but there is to many problems left to fix and if UbiSoft would do that this could be the best sub sim ever done.
JeffG

[l3th4l]

Signed. :yep:

[DRS56]

Tried it again after second patch. Great looking with widescreen and AA but still not what I want. Back to GWX:)..after 3 years SH3 is still my #1 game. Thanks to all the great mods and the guys that make them.

Still hope for SH4 with some patch improvements....please Ubisoft..at least one more good one.

[Cap'n Crabs]

Add me to the list of those requesting another patch or two.

:sunny: But please... take the time to do it right. :sunny:

I enjoy the game quite a bit, but it would be a travesty to leave it in it's current state.

[CaptBackasswards]

Yea vote here. The development team did too good a job on SH 3 to stop here on SH 4. Salute to the modders for getting this game to the point it is now.

Rick

[ViperU48]

This sim definately needs some tune-ups here and there! Thinking that SH4 doesn't need a patch 1.3 is nonsense...

Please Devs, give us a patch...

[Spike]

I have been wondering about this too,after SH3 only being pached twice and this not being finished and paying $49.99 twice for support of this game.Please don't leave us just hanging out to dry....We are the ones that are buying this....:damn:

[darius359au]

Put me down for a patch.

[U56_Dragon]

Hello,
I do agree to the DEV Team creating one of the best sub sims ever.
I hope they will consider working on an update to clear all the smoke I have seen in the past few weeks.
I really like the simulation.
Please do your best to keep this sim one of the best creations for WW2 Submarine warfare. I have nothing but positive feelings toward this sim.
Thanks ... to all of you.

[Kpt. Kellar]

yes to 1.3

[HolySdrJR]

A patch is obviously needed - There hasn't been anything this buggy in release since... uhh well - any Madden for the PC. But, um. You don't want to be compared with EA do you, Ubi? First time buyer (though I did play Wolfpack series back in the day - so not COMPLETELY a noob when it comes to subsims <but I am close :yep: >) because I heard you guys were the best.

Why would you want to alienate someone making the switch back to subsims? Justify my purchase, or refund my money. Or just take my money once, cause you'll never get it again.

::spoken as if Ubi would ever read this::

[aanker]

I can only echo the remarks in the above 14 pages. A patch to 1.3 is definitely needed by June and afterwards a 1.4 patch to finalize this potential masterpiece; SH4.

Don't let us down Dan.... I've stuck with you so far!

Art

[Ping Jockey]

We need the patches to fix a game that was not complete when released. I can't believe that UBI thinks this game is done.

[UBootMann]

I still can't play SHIV due to many issues with my old PC:damn: but I WILL be playing once they are resolved. The patch is vitally necessary for the game to be considered complete.:know: Then the Mod community :|\\can sink their teeth into this baby and we'll all be happy as clams sub simmin' to our heart's content. :rock:But.... the paaaatch......the paaaatch.....where is the paaaatch....?:hmm:

[Minimax]

Hi folks,

I agree 100%!

We (two other guys and me) have written a 350 page user guide (http://sh4.wamotec.de/phpBB2/downloads.php?view=detail&df_id=31) (http://sh4.wamotec.de/phpBB2/downloads.php?view=detail&df_id=31) to SH4 for the German SH4 Community and we've got a lot of very enthusiasm feedback. But the community is very irritated about UBI's communication and patch - policy too. Many people claimed their money back and I'm unshure wether there will be a vital community for SH5, if a patch 1.3 doesn't come soon!

[CaptainHaplo]

Ubisoft - listen closely to the outcry. We appreciate your desire to serve our desire for games of this nature, but we do expect the product to work as "advertised". Its not just the community that says another patch is needed - almost every review points out still existing bugs.

SH3 was supported well, and I gladly plunked down my money for SH4 because of that. Your hearing from a number of people just like me. We looked at your actions, your reputation, and your responsiveness to us the customer. You listened when we expressed our concerns about the one element in SH3 that stood out - and you fixed it in SH4. (Note - I am talking about starforce). You supported the game itself through v1.4 - solved the major bugs and had, for the genre - a blockbuster hit.

SH4 has the tools to succeed - many customers are waiting on that one review that says "BUY THIS - UBISOFT FIXED IT! ITS GREAT!" - but that wont happen until the glaring issues are taken care of. Every review raves about the graphics - but without correcting the major gameplay issues - you will see little additional sales.

In addition to the issues that Neal raised - one other item does need attention - and that is Damage Control. It may not need much work, but it does deserve an explanation as to what is happening so that we can react appropriately.

Continue to produce quality products with reasonable support cycles, and we as gamers will continue to buy, and brag about - your games. Fail us, and we will walk away.

[D'biter]

amen to all

[Radtgaeb]

New patch needed for a game that wasn't released complete.

To UBI *not devs*: We went out and spent $50+ (american) for your product, and we've stuck through it with you all since April. Don't waste our money on yet another Far Cry "improvement" and give the devs what they need to fix the game YOU rushed out unfinished. Yeah, they'll probably never see this...but as a future law student, I HAD to get my two cents in. :up:

I definately back this petition deal.

[oldgoatsboats]

I've been playing Silent Hunter sims for years, SHI, II & III and SHIV can be the best one yet.

You have done a fantastic job on this game but it needs a little more work to put it over the top. Help us out with the things we can't fix ourselves and you'll have a game that will be played for years to come.

[FIREWALL]

I have been wondering about this too,after SH3 only being pached twice and this not being finished and paying $49.99 twice for support of this game.Please don't leave us just hanging out to dry....We are the ones that are buying this....:damn:


I'm into this game over $200.00 This better get patched or it's bargain basket e-bay $10.00 if I ever buy one of their products again. Now that's out of my system...... :smug:


It took awhile to get to 1.4 patch on SH-3. So I don't expect SH-4 to get that far immediatly but this Thread should give UBI a wakeup call. :yep:

[SteamWake]

Are we allowed to post twice in this thread ?

All I can say is my opinion that if the well documented issues are not resolved in a patch we as a community can kiss the submarine simulator genre a fairwell.

I certainly dont want to see that happen.

I dont think particurally the developers want to see that happen.

UBI .... well the jury is out. I could strongly advise that they see that it happen. A future title could be a source of revenue. However a sour taste left in alot of players mouth from abandoment would be left. Sales 'would' suffer.

[nurka]

ALL I CAN SAY IS IF UBI DOES NOT FIX THIS THEY WILL LOOSE ALOT OF CUSTOMERS SUPPORT IS A VERY STRONG ISSUE ALOT OF COMPANIES HAVE MADE THAT MISTAKE.:yep:

[Caltone]

Thanks for the thread Neal, agreed we need at least one more patch.

[NZ_Wanderer]

Adds name to the list... (adding nothing else as everyone has covered it all)

[codmander]

better yet give subsim the game codes so the evil modsters here can fix it ;) i also don't own sh4 probly never will unless I see vast improvments in responses in these forums sh3 does me fine:rock: (5$ limit for sh4)

[Godboo]

Co-signed.

[Faamecanic]

Signed..... even though Im not at all surprised that yet another major published will possibly take a dump on the consumer.

Please dont let this happen UBI....

[plaice]

In reference to radar the original SH game has better radar than this one. and I am having a problem with the box showing the torpeodo leaving the tube and showing it on to the target. Is this a problem with anyone else. It makes it hard to know if you need to fire more fish or not. any help from the group would be appreciated. Also these crashs happening doing the game should be considered in a new patch. Also why don't they include the submarine combat pin we all received. The other problem is the patrol doesn't end. you do all that is ask and there is no completions. how about a msg on the radio stating the patrol is suscessful and return to what ever base you need to return to. everone needs to get behind this 1.3 patch.

[GoldenEagle8]

I think a 1.3 Patch is needed. Sure, the basics work, almost. But, with just the basics, it's too arcade-ish. Liners sink too easy (They always seem to explode), and the DD do almost nothing all the time. Sure, sinking something is great and all, but when it happens, and nothing is done by the escorts, it just kinda kills the sence of accomplishment, you know? The Aircraft almost never even notice Im there, either. If there are gonna be so many, why don't they do anything? I know the SD Radar works, but since 1.2 it kinda stopped. I dont't get anything from the SD anymore, not even aircraft, maybe it's just my early SD Radar, but surely it should pick up something? I would also like to see the 90-270 heading issue with the Radar fixed, I don't understand why that is messed up likr that? I would love to have the chronometer fixed most of all. I'm not good at math, and not very good at guessing either (apparently) and I Don't enjoy using the autotargeting, but with out the chronometer, it's the only way I can get anything. Please, I beg of you, fix it, fix as much as you can.:(

I Add My Name to the List.

[leeclose]

I agree a 1.3 ptach is a must and more as likely not a 1.4 one will be needed as well at the rate things are going:nope:

[lurker_hlb3]

sign me up

[XLjedi]

:yep: :up:

[Barkhorn1x]

Com'n UBI - Patch 1.3 IS needed.

[Devilray]

I agree with Neal. Do the RIGHT thing!

[Sonny]

Why waste all this work when just a little more will make the game a masterpiece.

[Molon Labe]

I'm with Neal. :up:

[subzero1944]

I'm with yer !

[Old Dog]

Ubisoft, your credibility is on the line here. Do what's right and finish what you have started.

Old Dog

[acetoolguy]

:up:

[cowboys98]

when you go to a restaurant and order a cheeseburger with fries,and you get your order and everything is in there,the cheese the mayo,the fries, the lettuce,the ketchup and pickles,umm you take a bite and smile,becouse its great to half a complete order,in the other hand ubisoft,gave us the bun with out meat,with out cheese and mayo and pickles,no fries,now i am a mad custumer and maybe next time i would not buy anything from your store,well ubisoft you need to fix this,you have to make the custumers happy,you not going to make them happy if you give us a unfinish product,please give me my lettuce,cheese and fries,i want the whole enchilada!
please give us our patch 1.3,we need it badly,well im very hungry.:yep: :damn:

[JSLTIGER]

All for patch 1.3!!!!
:rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:

[leonil]

:damn: need 1.3

[Seatroit]

S.ave
O.ur
S.ubs

[Juju]

Agreed. it needs more patching. It's been collecting dust on a shelve for weeks, now. That's a shame.

[CDR Resser]

As a loyal SH consumer and player, I hope Ubisoft will issue a fix for all the problems that we have all noted.
From someone who has purchased all of the Silent Hunter titles, whether Uboats interested me or not, some loyalty in return would be refreshing
(I never could get used to shooting torpedoes at the stars and stripes. It felt really weird.):-?

Danny

[submariner]

With the two previous patches, this game is playable.

BUT, the biggest game killer for me is the fact that all convoy ships almost stop while under attack ..... dumb .... dumb .... dumb ..... makes me not want to play an otherwise great sim.

I also wish the stad range issue was fixed .... I play Imperial ....

WE NEED one more PATCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[momo55]

Well ..i just took a look at my shelf ...Ghost recon collector's pack...Rainbow six collector's edition ...Silent Hunter 1 2 3 and 4 .....mmmmm...dit not know i was so loyal to this compagnie ....must hade a lot of fate in them in the past i suppose.

I'm also a humble admin of a belgian-dutch fun clan , and a little time ago ...when they saw me playing SHIII ...they asked about it and if they chude buy it ..."shure ,when you are intrested ,why not"..." it's a good game and with GWX it's an even greater game".
2 are starting to play it and 2 are considering buying it.:D

Now they see me play SH IV(only with mod it's playable...thanks modguy's for that) and when i get that same question , i'll say ...."wait for a little while ...it needs some patching ...and like whe play allot bf2 ....i'll ad mostly .."it' a EA game for the moment and they understand what i mean by that:rotfl: .PATCH PATCH PATCH PATCH PATCH........

I AGREE whit Neals comments and support him and all the loyal SubSimmers here ;)

[Gino]

Neal is more than right!

I second his motion.

groetjes,

[LobsterBoy]

I believe that the company's honor is at stake. If they choose not to patch, that's a choice they can make. Choices have consequences. All I ask is that, should they choose not to patch, they release the SDK for the community to work on. I played stock SH3. I got away from it for a while, and when I got back there was something called GWX 1.03. It was like a new game. I have complete faith in this community and the talent that's here.

To the modders :rock:

[StandingCow]

Get em neal! :D

[TheBrauerHour]

Just like a smoker, I need the patch!!!!!!!!!

[donut]

At 300 Sig.posts,thats at $50'00 a head,$15,000 in sales they stand to lose,if UBI
Expects to sell any other game. Perhaps it's only a drop in the bucket to them,but the damage to there reputation =s unemployment.:down: Good figuring Onkel

[Brag]

Neal echoes the complaints we've been hearing from our comrades who return to the Atlantic discontented with SH IV. Personally, I'm not buying until I hear the bugs been fixed.

Ubi really has a masterpiece with Silent Hunter if things work right! But is losing good will if the needed patch is delayed.

[badaboom]

Come on,You know It's the right thing to do!:up:

[FlyingThermos]

The thing that is the most frustrating to me is the potential that this sim has. If the vision would be followed through all the way to completion, it would be a thing of greatness. I believe this is what upsets most people.

[wolfhunter007]

Yes I wholeheartedly agree this game needs 1.3.
And as a digruntled vet with nothing else to do if it doesnt happen I will hunt you all down Ubisoft:dead:

[Weather-guesser]

Twice as many bugs with half as many fixes as SH3? Not good for the reputation of a company. Please finish the "simulation". :rock:

[LukeFF]

Totally agreed. There are still way too many issues with Silent Hunter 4 for its development life to be stopped now. The issues Neal brought up in the original post are at the heart of what is still functionally wrong with the game.

[Spectre-63]

Signed!

It was with the greatest enthusiasm that I purchased and installed SH4 and I anxiously looked forward to the 1.2 patch (1.1 was out when I purchased). It's unfortunate that the 1.2 patch did not address all the issues that remained but I understand the necessity to get something out quickly to address a lot of the issues which were not resolved with 1.1. One or two patches should finish the job.

[Flappy]

Well, since I refuse to purchase it until ubi "fix" the thing I guess I'll just vote with my

coinage.

Darned shame as I bought SH3 on release based on Onkel's review and haven't

REALLY had a serious issue since 1.3 other than niggles. (Esp. w/ the work of ALL you Mod Guys!!!!:rock:

[NEON DEON]

I WANT MY

I WANT MY

ONE POINT THREE

:ping: :ping: :ping:

[Lupo]

hi!
Neal vor,noch ein ubi-tor...........meine Stimme hat Neal!!!!!:up:

mfg lupo!:cool:

[Boogie]

Most definately this game needs this patch it will turn a merely good sim into a simply superb sim .

COME ON UBISOFT GET YOUR FINGER OUT !!!!!!

[The Avon Lady]

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please. :yep:

[nematode]

Signed.

Neal shoots and scores. I'd be ok with a final patch that fixes that list of bugs.

They're glaring, game killing items, and it's reasonable to request Ubi correct them to bring the software into line with what they marketed to us.

[Grothesj2]

I spent over $300 to upgrade my computer to play this game and was waiting for months to get to sail the Pacific again. I defended Ubi and said, "be patient, it'll get patched". Sadly, with all the little issues it has sat on my hard drive almost unplayed and I have went back to other three and four year old games. 1.3 is definitly needed and all those that defended Ubi are starting to look like the fools.

[mopedmoppel]

if no Patch 1.3.... SH4 play never again :-?

[Silent Munter]

I want to use the radar at least once in my lifetime...

1.3 will be much appreciated, thanks!

[DimDoms]

Hear Hear!

[DS]

Agree with Neal.

SH1 started a great thing. :rock:

SH2 was an unfortunate slip in my opinion, but modders helped it along as best they could. :-?

SH3 was a home run, restoring the luster to the franchise.:rock:

SH4, being the first return in 10 years to the original subject (US Fleet Boats), stands of the brink of being remembered as either another home run, or another unfortunate slip. Let's bring it all the way home boys and girls for two great products in a row that will sell for years to come. We're too close to stop now!:huh:... :doh:... :stare: ...:up:

[ryanwigginton]

DO IT

I've learnt not to purchase games on release, mostly from Medieval II which only now (SIX MONTHS after release) I can actually play and enjoy. I did it with Medieval II and then fell for it again with SH4. In future I'll just give allow at least three or four months post release date before handing over my money. I'm confident Ubi will pull it out the bag though. I'm not big on mods & tweaks and believe a game should be enjoyable without them.

DO IT UBI.. DO IT.

[spdklls]

Really need a patch. I'd like to see the chrono speed measurement work, the stadi rangefinder work, and the radar work like it should. I like imperial measurements for this sim, but as of right now I never know exactly what unit is being used. I'm astounded that after two patches the speed measurement chrono still doesn't work! The sim already knows the speed of every ship on the water, they could at least fool us into thinking it works by making the stopwatch run for 30 sec before displaying the speed. There is no need to actually measure anything or calculate anything!

[JamesDeFontana]

My vote for patch 1.3 :up:

[wjauch]

Yep,

Please add me to the list of people begging for complete and final closure with a game that functions as it was meant to.....and marketed!

wjauch

[manichouse]

count me in too...

[Oarso]

Completely of agreement. Neal knows what says.





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[cunnutazzo]

I agree with you all guys. Ubi, please support SH4 with appropriate patches, please! (and release the SDK for SH3)

[Popov57]

A lot of modders and tweakers made this game with their excellent ideas and superb knowledge playable. However, UBI-Soft is still responsible. It`s time for them to show their attitude! Is it just money or is it little bit more? Yes please, patch it!

[condas]

I echo Neal's statement
and would like to add
quality is going down the drain
all over the market space.
Keep you loyal base long term
1.3 is needed
Thanks

[huevo]

Build myself a new PC for this game.....now SH4 sits on a shelf awaiting a patch from you guys, UBI FIX IT!

[Vonotto]

I would like another patch as well. BUT you all act surprised everytime they release a sim half finished, thats what makes me laugh. NO ONE can give me an example when they released a "finished out of the box sim" because they don't and never have hence they never will. Untill people stop running out and buying the 1st POS they send out and hit them in the wallet to make them think, they will keep doing it.

Whoever wants to can flame me for this but its spot on and if you think about it you know I am right. And don't say "If no one buys it right away they will stop making them ...WRONG.... this is what they do make games, and if they find people will not buy them untill they are "finished" (more or less) they will change tactics. That is what retail sellers do, they change to bring the consumer what they want so they can make a proffit over the "other guy".

I am just as guilty as others and have bought EVERY sub sim ever made (I think) but SH4 was put on my shelf one week after I bought it and has not come down since. I say I will not buy another one from them and that is a HUGE statment from me. Will I stick to this ? I hope so because I see no difference in waiting an extra four or six months for a finished product to be shipped, or the sim setting on my shelf for four or six months waiting for patches to make it worth while.

This is my opinion on the matter.


Von

[Bezoomney]

Damn right you are Neal!

Fix this puppy!

[Captain Nemo]

I concur with Neal's post even though I haven't purchased SH4 yet. It is essential that another patch is released to remedy at least some of the bugs listed before I will seriously consider buying SH4.

Nemo

[Gunfighter]

Have to say your right Neal,Take heed UBI remember a Game Called Sniper Elite got no support no patches and is now totaly dead.:nope:

[Mr_Dirt]

I have not played the game yet due to reading posts here. It is using up space on my hard drive. UBI needs to complete the sim. Thanks for speaking out Neal

[Landluber]

Count me as one waiting for 1.3 before I buy.

[Crimguy]

Me too. The bugs in SH3 were not significant enough to keep me from playing it (Starforce was though - I uninstalled and reformatted because of it)>

SHIV sounds like it has a lot to work out, and I for one will not purchase it until it's done.

[DJSatane]

So wait a minute, we have to beg for patch 1.3? I thought it was a sealed deal that we will get 1.3. But now we have to beg? Wow. It's obvious another patch and more is needed, and if UBI thinks otherwise then I have no comment.

[Platypus65]

Another vote for patch 1.3!

[Johann Vilthomsen]

I espend 800€ in my new PC only for play whit the Silent Hunter IV.:hmm: :damn:
Please UBI fix the game.:stare:

Patch 1.3 NOW!!!!! please.

And... if is possible can you make a patch for Atlantic battle??? I mis my Uboot :smug:

I big your pardon for my english.

[bruschi sauro]

I agree with you all guys. Ubi, please support SH4 with appropriate patches, please! (and release the SDK for SH3)
Scommetti che quei ..... .. ..... di Ubi ci lasciano a bocca asciutta?:oops:

[Skipbo]

Here's another supporting post for Neal's request. I would also second several other comments that patch 1.3 not be published before it's time. Make the effort and take the time to make it as complete as possible with the information available at the time of release. Having been an early SHI guy and then waiting for another release of a Pacific Theater sub simulation, I'm very pleased with the graphics and potential of SHIV, but have spent most of my time to date trying to figure out how it really works and testing mods rather than being on patrol. This forum is much more useful than the manual in learning the game so an electronic version of an updated/correct manual would be extremely useful for those customers who do not have the time to read everything posted on SUBSIM - I have no idea how they could really play the game at all. The modders have done an exceptionally good job to date, so would also support providing them with the sufficient code and hooks to continue those efforts if Ubisoft can do so without compromising their intellectual property too severely.............Skipbo

[Major Johnson]

Count me in!! Though I would hope the devs take a look at Dragonrr1's bug list, which is also posted in this forum. He's been keeping a pretty good track!! :rock: Get those issues resolved and then we can talk about expansion disks!!

[JFL1]

Signed!

Now back to SH3/GWX...;)

[Keelbuster]

Now that's a little harsh keelbuster :lol:



both emergency patches only confirms the short-sighted weed-smoking console-gaming attitude that these jokers have towards submarine sims.05-16-2007 02:51 PM


Did you mean the people that play console games or was that directed at the developers or both? :lol:

Uh...i guess it was a bit of a strafing run there. But yea, the developers, the legions of console gamers - they can all chew torpex.

[u48]

Yes patch 1.3 please.....Oh and throw in a couple of Brit subs as well to make amends....Cheers....

[rocco]

I'm in total agreement with Neal. Where's the pride in workmanship these days?

Rocco

[Ghostdog]

Count me in. Im all for a little polishing. With a legacy like the SH series is, it should be a priority to get ALL things right.

We will all benefit from it.

Here´s hoping.

T

[SUBMAN1]

Sounds about right Neal. If all those things are fixed, it will be a very good sim!

My problem is that I've noticed from UBI's past - when they patched SH3, they always seemed to break about as much as they fixed, so it became an issue of using which patch depending on what you wanted working or not. This is my major issue with their patching system.

If they don't get this one right though, it will probably be one of the last sims I buy from them. I'm tired of waiting for the next patch so that I can play a game in a working condition. My biggest complaint is the chronometer - How could a game ship without a critical component in a working state? I've gotten pretty good at guessing actual speeds, but still! Pathetic.

-S

[Matheus_Kaih]

where do i sign the paper? :p

I'm all yay for this, SHIV really needs this

[SteamWake]

I want to use the radar at least once in my lifetime...

1.3 will be much appreciated, thanks!

Radar works now but only when facing east :-?

So maybe use it for 1/2 your lifetime ?

Hell yes it needs to be fixed.

[orangenee]

Your radar actually works in the first place??? Mine never has.

[unruhly]

I'm hesitant to just jump in and post as I'm somewhat an optimist. I don't know that the silence from Ubi truly indicates that there isn't something currently being worked on. It's not that I believe Neil is wrong in his instincts, it just could be that the Dev team has been given a gag order.

That being said... Should I be wrong; From my perspective as a consumer and my poor experiences with game play, it would be inconceivable that something isn't currently in the works towards fixing, AT A MINIMUM, the items that Neil has listed. Should it truly be the case that development has been suspended altogether, I would think that a class action lawsuit would be in order to, at a minimum, recoup the cost of purchase. (This logic would point back to a reason for a gag order.):hmm:

[sea enemy]

I've made my peace with the chronometer-I like doing it manually (not saying it shouldn't be fixed) but, for the AI merchant 'stop n' huddle' bit alone we need mode work done.

[ld762n]

Just to give my vote for 1.3 or more to fix the bugs. Not sure if its mentioned. Using the flak gun if I aim them to far up I just see the outside of the tub. Gar. Also the deck and flak gun repair. Even when damage gauge shows nothing they stay damaged. Good game UBI but if your not gonna back it up then I will be hesitant to buy UBI products again. Definantly won't pre-order if this one falls through. Just wait until the Wally Smiley puts it in the discount bin.

[Trevally.]

:up:

[Ravencraft]

I'm in complete agreement. I haven't really played this game due to it's incomplete state. I have bought every game in the Silent Hunter series and I will continue if they patch this game to a complete state.

Thanks Neil and Ubi.

[Budsurf]

The A.I. in SH4 is very weak. In SH3, at least the modded versions, the enemy ships will detect and fire on your raised periscope. In SH4, one can just steam around in circles firing torpedoes at will. Untill all the issues are resolved, SH4 is decidely a step backwards.

[CTU_Clay]

I too. Agree that we need a patch to bring the game up to a status as to where it is realistic and works properly. It is terrible to have paid this much money including the S/H fees to receive such a incomplete game with "bugs" way to many making the game very much "junk"

I have quit playing it for now. Matter of fact. I would like to return it for my money expended for it. What a rip!

RC Reynolds SR
Houston, TX
WPL Member #1534
WPL Member ID: CTU_Clay

[ae4rv]

I don't think this game has a chance of being the cult classic that Silent Hunter 1 was without at least TWO more patches. The FFT mod helps tremendously but this game has serious flaws, and though I've found it to be mostly stable, I did have 5 CTDs in an hour recently. Have played very little since.

UBI -PLEASE PATCH THIS GAME!!! It has such great potential!

[Shadowmind]

I agree with Neal. I bought this game the day it came out, installed it, it crashed, it ran slow, and I became irate that I wasted money on this game. Patch 1.2 makes it playable and somewhat enjoyable, but not nearly as much as SHIII.

Please fix this game!!!

[the_belgian]

I'd like to echo Neal's post, all of us who own and enjoy SH4 feel that fixing these items will turn this into the sim it has the potential to become. Quality indeed should be the standard, and is the legacy of the Silent Hunter series.

Papabull
...i can only agree...
SH4 unpatched :down: -----SH4 with patch 1.3 :up:

oh yes and after patch 1.3 don't let me have this like after patch 1.4 in SH3...http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2563/nieuw2yl1lo9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Hakahura]

Ubisoft....

Patch it, make it work and then....

I will buy it!

[Hakahura]

....................Maybe

[fausterwwii]

As a long time customer of Ubisoft and the Silent Hunter series, I ask sincerely for one last patch to button-up those issues noted in Neal's post. It's the right thing to do, and it's good business. You'd be suprised how often those two things go together. You've made a beautiful sim which could have the mass-market appeal a "niche" game does not normally generate. Do us and yourself a favor, and finish what you started.

Thank you,
Ed

[Snakeeyes]

Encore! Yes! Bring on 1.3!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't stop now UBIsoft!

[MLF]

Bugs need fixing - don't back out. I support this appeal.

MLF

[Toast]

Count me in. I love SH4 for everything it could - and I hope, will - be. Patch 1.3 please!

[gravy]

I bought Silent Hunter IV when it first came out. I have played it may'be 8 hours in total. I just can't get into it with all the bugs. It is currently shelved pending fixes.

Please make more patches for SHIV.

Gravy

[DJSatane]

Why are we begging for another patch? Does Neil know something we don't? I thought I heard while back someone post that 1.3 is in works for sure. Did that change? I sure hope UBI didnt quit on SH4 yet.

[codeseven]

Agreed, Patch 1.3 is indeed needed.


UBI,

'Critical' features necessary for game functionality that are broken and detract greatly from the game and will most likely require manipulation of the game code to correct, can ONLY be fixed by the Devs via a patch. Our very talented Mods can only build apon what remains after support (patches) has ceased. Please allow the Devs to fix key features that only they can and you can rest assured our Mods will then have a product they can polish to a shine.

In addition to what Neal has posted, please refer to the "Priority Bug List" (I hope this is still in the works guys) currently being compiled that will list from most critical to least what needs to be fixed and address as many of them as you reasonably can.

Thank you


Codeseven

[CapZap1970]

Count me in!!! By all means.
SH4 needs patches 1.3, 1.4 .... as many as it takes to have everything working the way it was supposed to be. Don't count the work made by the modders, since they are doing what the developers should have been done in the 1st place. And one more thing, the list Neal wrote includes some bugs, but they are not limited to it. I think people at UBI know all the bugs, so they have a pretty clear idea of what bugs need to be fixed. CapZap

[Roads88]

And another vote for the patch. I know you will never make everyone happy. However, what Neal has listed are really basic playablity issues and you reputation is at stake.

Please step up and take care of this. It real is to the benefit of all.

[slc62]

As a fan of SH3, I was really looking forward to buying SH4. However, right off the bat it was apparent that this product was released prematurely ,as evident by the simultaneous release of patch 1.1, and the feedback in many forums. I commend the developers for also releasing the subsequent 1.2 patch quickly. Unfortunately there is still a ways to go to get this simulation up to the level we all had hoped & dreamed for. Becuase of this, I have held off on buying it.

The lack of communication from Ubi to clearly spell out their intent to continue to make this product what it should have been, is disturbing. Your loyal and dedicated customer base deserves better.

I still have hopes of playing SH4 someday, but not if it's left in it's present state. The gameplay issues must be fixed. Historical inaccuracies I can live with (for a while).

Let your customers know they won't be left in the deep six, and announce your intent to release patch 1.3, and the issues it will address. Then you can count me as one of those SH4 customers that developers so love($$$).

Patch 1.3 = U supply, I buy:cool:

[Backman]

Another vote here... SH4 needs to be completed.

1.3 patch is needed.

[obliviongate]

Please Ubisoft, don't back down now. PC gaming will never die, but sloppy tested games from 'reputable' companies does not help the situation.

Your customers would love to see 1.3

[Avatar]

I'm all in on this one, too.
Right now SH4 is shelved, and I'm playing a lot of SH3, but I havent given up hope!
Please fix our SH4! Thank you!

[BellJack95]

I also add my name to the list asking for UBISoft Development to continue support for Silent Hunter IV by releasing a 3rd patch to fix key issues that remain unresolved for this game.

[Trool323]

You know, I've followed the silent hunter franchise since the first silent hunter, and Later than sooner after buying the forth game in the franchise, I've been finding myself reverting back to the first game. Silent hunter 4, for all it's graphical splender, isn't half as fun as the first game is or was in my opinion. With all the problems that plague it, I think it could be a great game If they we're fixed. What Pizzzz wissses me off is how gaming companys feel they have to release games early today without further testing to make deadlines. In the days of old when I was like 13 aces of the deep and silent hunter worked great out of the box. Now a days very few games work out of the box for your Pc because deadlines must be met. Enough ranting Please Ubi release Patch 1.3 and fix more than just the chronometer this time. :damn:

[Canonicus]

UBISOFT......

Please fix this wonderful sim by allowing the Silent Hunter 4
development team to complete their work and give them all the necessary resources to do so. You will be rewarded with loyal customers who will buy future products from you. (especially sub sims!)

Thank You for listening.

[tienman75]

Ubisoft, your DEV team has created the most visually stunning sub sim ever, but patch 1.3 is necessary to allow them to fix some critical bugs that are still present in the game.

Please don't quit on the game now. You're so close to producing something really special. Give these Guys one more patch to fix this game, and let us all be proud of Silent Hunter 4.


I agree with this post 100%.

@Ubisoft
Please on more patch, please, please, please....

Greetings

Andreas

[vanjast]

Ditto...
Treat(pay) your Devs nicely - without them you're nothing :arrgh!:

[wildchild]

yes come on what are you you doing over at ubi giving us a 1/2 finish game dont get me rong it's a good game but giving it us when it 1/2 finish think iam safe to that a lot of commander out there would of waited that littel bit longer till you had fininsh the game so come on with the 1.3:nope: :nope:
:help:

[scaseman]

Ubisoft never finished SH3 in my opinion. So you really think that SH4 will be any different. I may buy SH4 as a budget title. But full price not a chance.

[Smash]

I support Neal's statement.

message to UBI's Product manager; This kind of call 2 actions damages severly UBI reputation. UBI requested the input from the community when it developed the game. Do not disregard the feedback on the final game.

Im giving you this feedback from exprience, Im a product director from one of leading IT companies in the world, we take the community very serious if our reputation is on the line..

[joea]

Ubisoft never finished SH3 in my opinion. So you really think that SH4 will be any different. I may buy SH4 as a budget title. But full price not a chance.

This post does not belong here.

[quadraspleen]

Yes, dammit. Make that patch. You know you want to...

I think Neals list is quite conservative, too. There are a few more AI bugs than those ones.

Psychic airplanes anyone? I still think there are weird damage issues, too. And, and, and...:damn:

Signed.

[BlackDeep]

C'mon, let a dream come true and publish that 1.3 patch. Turn your inside out, and show us that the game is as good as we belive as it is. :hmm:

[pilotshark]

/Signed
I endorse the original post.

[scrag]

I am finally going to buy the game however having been a beta tester for other games I will attest to the fact that once a game gets a rep for being buggy or incomplete it has a hard time shaking that rep. UBISOFT has a rep for quality games and the premier SUBSIM. Don't tarnish that rep - if nothing else acknowledge the issue(s) and put forth an achievable timeline with the fixes. This of course is IMHO.

[alfie]

:up:

[fidget]

What he said! The things required to finish out SHIV are very doable, so there really must be a 1.3 patch.

[RC-Div631]

Agreed...another patch is needed

*Signed here*

[Wabbit_Huntn]

:rock:

Give me the patch!

[Jams79]

Count me in.

[bilbast]

Im in too.
Give us 1.3

Thank you.

[Rui Teixeira]

Hi:

I've tested this (incomplete) game.
It's a promising game... when completed.
I'm the proud owner of three previous Silent Hunter titles.
I won't buy the forth until is playable.
After UBI fix the bugs I'll be more than happy to spend my hard earned cash.

Best regards to UBI and to the awesome SubSim community.

Rui Teixeira
Portugal

[Boris]

Count me in!

I stopped playing SH4 temporarily because I got too frustrated with it... I have been assuming there is going to be a time when another patch will let me start playing again.

The had better be another patch! :yep:

[Onkel Neal]

400 posts, not bad. Ok, now we need 400 more by Monday. If you are a member of any other forum, post a call to arms. Let's get this on other websites' news pages. SimHQ has already covered it, let broadcast this message throughout the web.

thanks and keep the faith!
Neal
Subsim

[Rose]

Hey, Ubisoft: WE WANT 1.3!

[The Renegade]

Like the hundreds of posters before me, I agree that there needs to be another patch, if not more, and so I will join this petition. If that's what it is. Oh well, doesn't really matter.

What matters is the quality of this potential masterpiece, SHIV. Ubisoft Romania should be proud of what they have accomplished, and so, it only seems logical that they would want to make SHIV into that masterpiece and not leave it half-fixed as a good, and yet flawed, game.

I am not trying to blame the devs in any way or cast any negative light. I just wish to encourage the devs to make SHIV into what they imagined it as and designed it to be: the best, goshdarn submarine simulation EVER! This game deserves another patch!

So here's to you devs! You've made something great! All we ask is that you make it even better! :arrgh!: :up:

[ssteve]

I agree with Neal, we need another patch for SH4 to fix at least the items he mentions.

[jfarrow]

Stopped playing & can't recommend to friends until new patch fixes it.

[ssrat]

I agree with those recommendations to the next patch, but as a newbie there has always been one thing bugging me about the series no instant action.
Why they left something like that out is beyond me.. A Yeager like menu would be perfect and allow someone who just feels like blowing thing up a perfect idea.
Hands up all you grizzeld veterans that feel a quick way of testing ideas (or a quick sink e'm all) would be a fine addon (after patches of course)

[matzeesn]

:up:

[Paul Roberts]

I'll sign. In fact, I've been holding off buying SH4 until it reaches a state comparable to SH3 1.4b.

No patch, no purchase.

[Hemi]

I'm all for 1.3 too.

This game has a lot of potential if only some of the posted issues get fixed.

[Radtgaeb]

Hey all, Just posted an all points bulliten on UBI SH4 "1.2 bug issues" forum.

Hopefully this shall reach the masses. Dunno if anyone else has, but I'm just trying to promote the noble cause of Neal Stevens and everyone else at Subsim. :up:

Cheers!

~Radtgaeb

[Sailor Steve]

You have my vote. By the time I can actually play it I want it to be ready for me!:up:

[middernacht]

I dont make to many posts here either but im an avid sub-simmer,from AOD,silenthunter1-2-3-4.Beutiful games,wonderful work,But Please Ubi do what ya can to fix this puppy up.I rarely spend that kinda loot on anything Its very hard earned on my part.So please dont leave me hanging help a working class guy out would ya

[Deep6]

400 posts, not bad. Ok, now we need 400 more by Monday. If you are a member of any other forum, post a call to arms. Let's get this on other websites' news pages. SimHQ has already covered it, let broadcast this message throughout the web.

thanks and keep the faith!
Neal
Subsim

Did this remind anyone else of the movie Independence Day? :D

Bring me 1.3!

[SUBMAN1]

You have my vote. By the time I can actually play it I want it to be ready for me!:up:

That's cheating! :lol: If they don't patch it though, I'll probably ship you my copy since I probably don't want to play it anymore anyway - so either way, you'll be playing it to see for yourself! :p

[_Seth_]

I support our admirals suggestion!:up::up:

[skullman86]

Messed up radar and chronometer mean that plenty of people cant play so there better be a patch because those are necessary fixes and without those working, UBI has basically released a "broken" game....yes I said it, BROKEN and I don't normally call buggy games broken either...Dumb AI is one thing but features that don't even work is just unacceptable and a patch should be a certainty at this point and the fact that we have to petition for one that makes essential fixes doesn't make the situation any better, it is actually somewhat worrying :-?.

I would like 1.3 to be the patch that fixes EVERYTHING if possible.Medieval II Total War's "patch 2" made the game what it should've been out of the box and SH4's 1.3 should do the same!

[plaice]

Played the game tonite and made a great approach on large convey. had a few enemy war ships in the area but used the silent running and approached two ships. the enemy ships were over 1600 to 2000 yards away. had hits on both ships with 2 fish each. after the torpedoes hit was sunk by what I don't know. no charges were dropped and the enemy ships were still over 1600 yards away. How could this happen. If this game is to be successful it will need to reward the person for making a good approach and sinking ships but then it sinks them for no reason. What's the use of playing the game if it no fun. A refuhttp://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/icons/icon8.gifnd is do to all hands.

[edjcox]

The game is a marvel and yet it is lacking in so many ways. UBI your developers did a job putting this thing together but it was but a rough hewn block of a sub simulator and really needs to get some fine sanding in areas and there are as you know some rough spos overlooked by Patch 1.1 and 1.2.

You have the makings of a Genre game here. Everything from Surface combat, PT's, and Aerial warfare. Why not invest some time and yes money to do it right?

We need Patch 1.3 to address some of the remaining "rough spots"

Thanks:smug:

[WFGood]

I'd vote for at least one more patch. I can play the game in its current state, but I would love to have some of the 'kinks' worked out.

[simsurfer]

Unless we get patch 1.3 and or more this game is getting uninstalled because in its present state it is totally unplayable nor is it enjoyable. I might consider reinstalling if there is ever a GWX mod, other that that it is going to collect dust. Further purchases of UBI soft games thereafter will probably not be considered.

Not a threat, just a promise.

[Shyzar]

I too want another patch to fix the various bugs, but the only bug I just hate is when a destroyer rams you and gets sunk in the process. Its a great game but as PC Gamer put it "She's a fine ship, but she left port before she was seaworthy"

[-Pv-]

I support Neal's requested list.
-Pv-

[Jungman]

I would like a patch to fix a few basic issues. It cannot be THAT hard.

Else, give us the source code and our modders can do the repair.

[flintlock]

I would like a patch to fix a few basic issues. It cannot be THAT hard. It's not a matter of difficulty.

It comes down to whether or not Ubisoft can be bothered to allocate the resources necessary to fix this game.

[The_Rus]

Yeah I would love to get 1.3, and I hope it happens. :D

[swash]

I've bought many UBI games, and the only one that is currently on my PC is SH4.

But I've come to the conclusion that UBI has a trend on releasing games before they are ready. The poor Dev teams do the best with what time they are given, but the ultimate decision to release a game is in the higher up part of the company.

Still, it sux getting a game with half it's sheets still hanging in the wind. I want to have a positve attitude that SH4 will be one of the greatest of the SH series, but please don't leave us hanging in the wind.

If UBI can't take the time to fix SH4 and polish it out, I won't make the time to buy another UBI product.

I hate to have to say that because UBI puts out some unique, interesting and great stuff. But there is only so much frustration a consumer can take.

The mods have picked up the ball, but they can only go so far.

Screwing around the the only PTO subsim on the market is the final straw for me:down:

[Lt. Cobra]

This is my first time posting here and I agree with Neal. I have been reading this forum for quite some time. It is a very informative forum and the modders have my appreciation and gratitude from the first day until now for all that they have done to make this a better game. Thank you so much! :up: I bought two copies of this title, one for my son and one for myself, and I paid $100 of my hard-earned cash for us to have this simulation. While it is remarkable as to the extent the devs have achieved in bringing a game of this caliber to the market it is clear that it is in much need of repair and to be finished. CTD has got to be fixed for me along with everything else they advertised it to do. Also, I am really amazed that I have only read one post complaining about the stern and the bow being turned around so that when you are diving you get the wrong side of the ship moving down. As has already been stated in another post, true simmers shouldn’t appreciate that poor oversight on Ubi’s part. That, as well as hearing the sound of the engines coming from the wrong end of the ship. This could be a top of the line sim if Ubi would do what is right and fix it so that paying customers like all of us on here would get what they paid for. I have already backed off from playing it as much because of all of the bugs. For everyone’s information, when I called customer support many weeks ago concerning this game the person who answered the phone was not only very rude but they insisted that nothing was wrong with this game. When I told them to read all of the posts that people are making to the contrary, I was informed by customer support that Ubi Soft never reads the forums that are online. I hope the makers of this potentially great game will do what is right and fix it. Either give me my patch/patches or give me my $100 back! Class action law suits are not unheard of.

Lt. Cobra

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[Patch]

AYE!!

Ubi, listen to the fans, the players, the hardcore die hards bubbleheads!

FIX THE SIM!!!!!!

[Volum]

Agreed. Should'nt have to petition for it really.....

[Fearless]

My sentiments exactly. I fully support this post. What about it UBI??

[bruschi sauro]

UBI I WANT THE PATCH1.03:yep:

[Von Manteuffel]

I can only totally agree with the posts here. Thanks to the two patches already released, Silent Hunter IV is now a stable and enjoyable game, but it is still too incomplete, with too many unresolved issues and bugs ( if they are bugs ) A third patch, following the suggestions made by Neal Stevens, would, I believe, satisfy the vast majority of dissatisfied customers still out there.

[Da_Junka]

I laughed when I seen this post until I realized it was serious, it is unbelievable that there might not be a patch 1.3, they would not leave it this close to completion of the game would they? That would be complete madness on behalf of UBI to abandon yet another game while still not finished there rep: is already abysmal, how low do they want to go, bankruptcy maybe, I for one would never buy from them again and I imagine quite a few of you would follow suit. UBI may travel down the same path as their beloved starforce.:D

I signed/

[MaxT.dk]

I can only totally agree with the posts here. Thanks to the two patches already released, Silent Hunter IV is now a stable and enjoyable game, but it is still too incomplete, with too many unresolved issues and bugs ( if they are bugs ) A third patch, following the suggestions made by Neal Stevens, would, I believe, satisfy the vast majority of dissatisfied customers still out there.

It would satisfy the hardcore realism-crazy fans (1% of the market of this not-that popular game (compared to others like Counter-Strike, WoW etc)) so afterall it's just a question about money... Are they willing to support those hundreds hardcore fans? As you've seen it yourself, SH4 tries to appeal to more general public, and that public probably wont even notice these "bugs"...

Just my 2 cents...

[Wings12]

Hello,

I think we need Patch 1.3 soon...:up:

end Wings12

[Ostfriese]

I second Neal's list.

/signed

[hachiman]

I wholeheartedly endorse the proposal!!

[Mr. Rooster]

Yes UBI should step up tp the plate and fix this game. They had the guts to put a buggie game out lets see if they have the guts to fix it and make it right. I have been a long time customer and paid good very hard earned cash for this game but it will be the last game I ever buy from you if you don't step up and make it right.

[Anvart]

Unfortunately the history repeats...
Even after 1.4 patches we had game (SH3) with serious mistakes and not finished features ...

[Nuc]

I strongly agree in the need to continue the improvement throught additional releases

[Mudrik]

Ubi X We Love Your Game But It Needs A Polish X New Patch Please X Don't Rush It X Fix Everything X Give Us The Game We Deserve Or Rtb At Your Discretion For Immediate Mothballing X

[Kolbus]

Ubi must review the mission editor too.

Patch 1.3 now!!
:help:
My Signature Here

[weeksy]

Add me to the list!

Weeksy

[Easy Tiger]

Yes, another patch please.

[lklausen]

Hey all,

I agree with Neal and all the rest that we need a new patch.

Beside the bug mentioned by Neal I have come across som other bug :damn:

Audio:

The crew wisper even when surfaced and no danger is near.
Sound after exiting time compression.
When initiating battle stations it would be cool with the COB to call out Battle staions!! Like when securing from battle stations

Game Play:
It is possible to manually use deck gun in bad weather.
Air search radar cannot be manually controlled. Mast is allways up?
Time compression does not reduced when encountering freindly life boats. or when closing in to shallow waters.
Freindly life boats have no AI. Meaning they continue to sail away from the sub.
Japanese airplane doesn't attack allied merchant shipping but keeps attacking the sub even tho it is submerge and has been for a long time (more than 30 min game time).

Lars Klausen
Happy hunting

[blechritter]

Here is one additional voice raised to support the petition for patch 1.3.

And we should expect it by end of june. (I hope at least)

[Beltza]

Of course, SH4 needs a new big patch to be completed. The 24th Flotilla and the spanish community are very glad with the SH4 translated into spanish:D , but the work must continue. SH4 is a great simulator but needs to be finishied.

From the 24th Flotilla we are supporting this initiative:

http://www.24flotilla.com/html/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=21699 (http://www.24flotilla.com/html/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=21699)

[lemon]

Please, another patch :up:

[Egan]

Ubi must review the mission editor too.

Patch 1.3 now!!
:help:
My Signature Here

Whats wrong with the mission editor?

[acid001]

i support this post

[sabot]

Please don't turn this into another IL2 goatrope.:damn:

Finnish the job.

[flintlock]

Should'nt have to petition for it really..... Apparently you do with Ubisoft.

[Freshy]

Yup. A patch is definately needed.

[pioleen]

Ubi must review the mission editor too.

Patch 1.3 now!!
:help:
My Signature Here

Whats wrong with the mission editor?

Triggers and events (from targets) don´t work in multiplayer missions.

A new patch is needed. The game is obviously not completed. I agree with this post.

Bugs or unfinished game?

[Takeda Shingen]

I cannot believe that I have not read this until today.

Yes, give us at least 1.3.

[pythos]

Conning Tower Upgrades!!!!!!!

[StandingCow]

I am protesting.

From now on I refuse to cook my meals in the nude until the next patch. :o

[ShrediKnight]

I'd definently like to see another patch. I love this game, and it's my first Silent Hunter and would really like to see it finished properly, as bug free as it can be.

[humesdog]

Humesdog wholeheartedly endorses this thread. :up: Love the game but don't leave your patching work to the modding community here.

[WolfgangKurtz]

We need this patch desperatly.
i have paid £50 for a game i cannot play as i get retired after a few missions
i hope that the game will eventually live up to the hype it was given

[Steel_Tomb]

Agreed, it would be criminal to leave SHIV as it is. Although its much better than it was on release day, its far from been what I would call "completed". It seems to be Ubisoft policy to rush a product out without sufficient dev time, the last Ghost Recon game was evidence of this along with R6:Vegas. I for one will not be buying GR:AW2 for the PC until I've seen some hands on footage from clan mates.

Please give us 1.3, if not 1.4 patches UBI!

[mbthegreat]

give us 1.3

[Rhein88]

Signed.

Patch 1.3 (perhaps even more) is needed desperately. Please patch this unfinished product.

[Cthulhu]

I support this post, we need a 1.3 patch.

[rik007]

Fully agree with Neal. The issue with the merchant slowing down to zero speed is annoying. It is as if the full convoi is in a shock when my torpedos hit the first victim.

[howler93]

I'd like to weigh in here also if it would help the devs to work out a ver.1.3 patch. I love this game, although it really KILLS it when you discover that your career saves have been corrupted somehow. It also seems that many of the modders out there are waiting until 1.3 releases, and we all know that the modders are the ones who really bring Silent Hunter titles to life. So devs, please...help bring SHIV to its true potential! :yep:

Howler

[WernerSobe]

right here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=114867

[mk_Topliner]

I want another patch, too!!!

[Rick Martin]

Been reading the posts here and agree 100%. Unfortunately, UBI does have a bad rep. about customer service. Couple of years ago I had a reason to call their customer service about a problem with SH3. The brand new disc disintegrated inside my computer and caused a lot of damage. The guy who repaired it said it was rare but things like that could happen if the disc had tiny stress fractures in it. The UBI people told me "no way, something like that has never happened anywhere in the world" I had to buy a replacement disc but the tech support people were really nasty and unhelpful. Sadly they make some great stuff like IL2 sturmovik, Pacific fighters and finally SH3 (with the Grey Wolves mod its fantastic). I really believe the company is only concerned wwith making the initial sale and not with improving the product. Guess we'll have to wait for the modders to fix it, although I'm getting better at SH4 (catching up to Mush Morton etc.:down:

[vodkavera]

Give us the 1,3 patch...please!
All we want is the game to be as good as you and I/us want it to be!
Put the crown on the king!

/VV

[Tzw]

Please add Patch 1.3.
All the effort in bringing SH4 into the present condition would be wasted time if the mentioned key errors won't be fixed.

[OakGroove]

What could have been.....
Please finish the job. Thank you!

[hamburger]

sh4:
half game, full money. a further ubi desaster. give us patch 1.3, but i do not say please... it's your obligation, ubi!!!

oh by the way: the german speechpatch is an insolence.

_____________________
Hamburger

[gg.]

I can't believe we have to ask for it... :damn:

[9th_cow]

the only thing i would add to neals original post:

AA guns often are worthless due to the hull showing up between you and the gunsight.

[U-4053]

Your real visionaries Ubi; but please fix your stuff , alot of us have all of your Sub games and none of them have worked like they were suppose too.
If you keep this kind of consumer relations up your going to find yourself out of business holding your giblettes in one hand and a will work for food sign in the other.
Get it together please.


Charlie

[banjo]

I am very much enjoying SH4. However, there are a lot of little things, well enumerated above, that need to be fixed. For me they are not game breakers, but do detract from the enjoyment of the game.

I urge Ubisoft to implement at least one more patch.

[Snacko]

I absolutly agree! SH4 needs at least 1 more patch!

Fix the Map Zoom so ships and bases don't end up in the middle of the ocean at certain zoom levels! I and there are several other things that definetly need fixing too! You have heard most of them here!

[Takao]

I can't believe that their(Ubi) making us beg for patch 1.3 and essentially telling us that there will not be 1.4 or 1.5! Then Ubi wants to poll us for what should be fixed, with the caveat that the bugs can not be fixed by using mods! Have they even played this game? I doubt they attempted to play a career, or else they would know many of the bugs that need to be addressed. The game has only been out for 3 months and it is being abandoned, at least Ubi showed more support for SHIII.

As much as I hate to do it, count me as one more beggar for a 1.3 patch, SHIV is just too broken.

[Chiller1064]

Add my name to the list. Let's get that patch!

[SUBMAN1]

Well visit this URL and vote then!!!

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6421019045/m/3711041855/p/1

-S

[Salvadoreno]

Jesus guys u got a patch like 2 weeks ago. Chill out for a second and get off their back. They'll get it out soon. I want it as bad as every1 but in the meantime download some awesome MODS that re available and play the same. Im kinda getting tired of all these people pushing and pushing and are never satisfied. Ya the game has some quirks every game does, but the developers are trying. Plus we have a wonderful modding community which wil make the game flawless soon like NYGM did for Sh3. RELAX:nope:


oh ya.. /signed (i would like a patch, but i can WAAIT)

[orangenee]

Could they also remove the disc check it doesn't work properly most of the time on my computer, it's annoying having to try 4-5 times just to play the game in the first place.

[Daveuk]

Please supply patch 1.3 for SH4
Dave

[sergbuto]

I am quite surprised to hear that there might be no third patch. It is definitely needed in my opinion.

[Radtgaeb]

Jesus guys u got a patch like 2 weeks ago. Chill out for a second and get off their back. They'll get it out soon. I want it as bad as every1 but in the meantime download some awesome MODS that re available and play the same. Im kinda getting tired of all these people pushing and pushing and are never satisfied. Ya the game has some quirks every game does, but the developers are trying. Plus we have a wonderful modding community which wil make the game flawless soon like NYGM did for Sh3. RELAX:nope:


oh ya.. /signed (i would like a patch, but i can WAAIT)

I don't know if you quite understand the situation. The word on the forums is that that UBI might not even LET the devs START a patch 1.3. That's what we're petitioning for. We haven't been pressing the devs. We like the devs, it's the publisher that's irritating.

[Crosseye76]

I agree, a Patch 1.3 should be in the works, and sooner rather than later.

[Woop n Ride]

Darn the torpedoes full steam ahead Neal, I,ll be there with you.

[Ahoy Mutiny!]

Yeah, patch v1.3 is definitely needed.

[V.C. Sniper]

Patch V1.3 FTW

[Tuddley3]

Patch away Ubisoft, make us proud. Dont leave us hanging. But as of right now, This :up: is quickly turning into this :down:

[VonBlade]

Short answer : Yes.

Longer answer : SH4 is akin to a Mermaid. Yes the stuff above the water is gorgeous and promises much enjoyment. But when you get down a little deeper under the surface you discover all the important stuff is missing and what is there smells a little fishy.

VB

[Konovalov]

I am quite surprised to hear that there might be no third patch. It is definitely needed in my opinion.

Back at Subsim after a month plus rest. :sunny:

The thought of no more patches is almost enough to send me into a coma. As Neal pointed out so succinctly, there are some serious flaws that need to be ironed out of SHIV. If things remain as they are I would expect SHIV to collect dust while I play SHIII with the magnificant Grey Wolves mod again. They were happy days. :up:

So please, deliver patch 1.3 some time this year. :yep:

EDIT: I voted Yes on the Ubi Poll thread question as have 99% of the sub sim/SHIV community! Not even Saddam got 99% of the vote in Iraq during his time in power. :lol: Seriously I hope they listen to the ground swell of opinion.

[tater]

Jesus guys u got a patch like 2 weeks ago. Chill out for a second and get off their back. They'll get it out soon. I want it as bad as every1 but in the meantime download some awesome MODS that re available and play the same. Im kinda getting tired of all these people pushing and pushing and are never satisfied. Ya the game has some quirks every game does, but the developers are trying. Plus we have a wonderful modding community which wil make the game flawless soon like NYGM did for Sh3. RELAX:nope:


oh ya.. /signed (i would like a patch, but i can WAAIT)

Um, they have as much as said that unless many people actively bitch about it, they won't patch any more, and even then it's unsure. Right now the default condition to assume is no patch the way things look, which is unbelievable considering how FUBAR this release was.

[Goalie]

Must have patch!!!!!!!!!!

[Der Teddy Bar]

Pat-a pat-a pat-a patch me
I wanna be simulated
Thrill me, chill me, fulfill me
Dev's of the night

[Arrowhead2k1]

What a crying shame if there are no further patches. Totally unbelievable!

The devs should be ashamed of themselves if this is the state they are willing to leave their game in. :down:

They just didn't make enough sales during the initial release they'd argue? Well, they should have considered that before they made their beta version gold.

[Michael Simmons]

You have my vote. Patch this game!:up:

[Stefan]

C´mon Ubi give us the patch we need

[Der Teddy Bar]

The devs should be ashamed of themselves if this is the state they are willing to leave their game in. :down:


Hoping to not hijack this thread, but it is NOT the Dev's who released SHIV in the ridiculous gamey & dysfunctional state that it is in even after 2 patches.

It is the UBISOFT MANAGEMENT, they are the ones who set the development cycle and authorise patches and improvements.

I can assure you that if the Dev's had the opportunity you would have a simulation.