Silent Hunter 4 patch v1.3: Where? When? What?

[cdrsubron7]

A 1.3 patch is still badly needed, there are issues in SHIV that still need fixing. Let's get on the ball Ubi and get to work. :yep:





cdrsubron7 :nope:

[HpM2cDennis]

I'll echo Neal's and others' comments...UBI Romania not merely "must", but "should" do the right thing and complete their product to make it the sim it should be. We've all put a lot of years and dollars/euros into making this a long running title for them. They need to consider that................. HpM2cDennis

[ajoleary]

Ubisoft - I am disgusted it has come to this! :mad:

This debarcle has changed by faith in you as a software developer - where once you were right up there in the stakes as evidenced by the rapid support that was provided to you products. However because of this sham, it seems I've bought my last Ghost Recon, IL2, & certainly last Silent Hunter title.

EA used to be the worst developer of all time (In my view), but congratulations Ubi has hit number 1. Even Micro$oft 'attempt' to fix their products, yet there is an apparent debate over whether the smaller community of your loyal SH supporter deserve so much as a 1.3 patch ATTEMPT!

Goodby UbiSoft and farewell. :/\\chop

[Burnspot]

Just putting in my vote for UBI to give the order for 1.3 to surface and make a run. :|\\

[ATR-42]

Units of measurement: Imperial units for ship dimensions, torpedo depth gauge, range figure in the TDC and Position Keeper, all UOM issues need to be resolved.

Campaign retirement – feature or bug? Bug. Suggestion that it should be optional.

Repetitive patrols still get assigned.

Chronometer still doesn’t work as described in the manual. “The Chronometer bug”, this needs a quick and dirty fix, just a simple speed response in the text box when the Speed button is selected in the TDC, as occurs when the player clicks the Depth Beneath Keel button. But, importantly, the player should still have the choice of manually entering his own speed estimate in the TDC.

Radar needs finishing touches. It doesn't work when heading South 90deg to 270deg. Is SD radar fixed? Does is not detect ships but will detect aircraft? Also, when SD radar fitted there is no A scope display.

Heres my vote, UBI please, at least fix the ABOVE!!!

[Highbury]

This program is one good patch away from being one of the best, if not the best naval sim of all time imo.

Please get it fixed UBI

[WernerSobe]

im in. sign

[AussieM8]

I have been hooked on subsims since I first played a demo of SH1, gee like so long ago,I searched high and low to get a copy of SH1 Commanders edition and have supported all previous releases (SH2,SH3 and now SH4 Exclusive Limited edition #1978)

Ubisoft used miss leading advertising to persuade me to part with my hard earned dollars believing this was going to be a massive improvement on the past series!!!

Yes the graphics are nice but to leave Silent Hunter 4 wolves of the Pacific in it's present state is criminal!! Ubisoft should be prepared to give a full REFUND to those customers who are far from happy with there purchase!

In Australia the customer has a right to request a refund for goods purchased which are faulty! SH4 needs to be patched to at least 1.3 if not I will be asking for my money back, SH4 Limited Edition cost me $180.00 Australian dollars including postage, thats the most I have ever paid for a game and it will be my last from Ubisoft.

[Adm. Ahab]

I think a patch that fixes the broken features is the bare minimum.

Def get my vote.

[leovampire]

I have every version of this game that has ever been made on my shelf and I am an avid buyer and user of MANY titles from UBSOFT and they have it on record every time I log into their site from Silent Hunter to Splinter Cell to Ghost Recon and many more.

PLEASE FINISH this GREAT GAME!

[RedHammer]

I`d like to have patch 1.3 .

Just too bad I have to vote and post for something that was promised the second i wasted 80 bucks...

But yeah, I have every SH game out there. And the only thing I ask now, is that you give me Silent Hunter 4..

[eodtech2000]

You got my vote. If they won't patch at least release a SDK and let the Subsim community fix it.

[desirableroasted]

I am a great fan of SHIII -- I've never played a better Subsim -- and have eagerly awaited the release of SHIV.

So what's stopping me from buying? Reports here that the issue is buggy. Now, I know first issues are -- and that patches come along to fix things up. But the list of issues outstanding is still too long. After a year of enjoying SHIII, I know I would NOT enjoy SHIV with these bugs.

So, come on Ubisoft! You have a loyal fan here reaching for his wallet... make it easy for me to give you my money (and sing your praises!).

[dkunath]

I totally agree with Neal and the responders here that SH4 needs at least one more patch. Its great to see people here not putting up with or accepting the nonesense that the game as it now is, doesn't need more patching. What BS. Ubisoft you need to get your act together if you expect me to buy another gamers program from you without support the currert came here--SH4, as well as future games.

Dwayne Kunath












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[kolds]

Gets my vote

[PatMan33]

Yo! We need this patch!

The game is fun but man, it can be better!



Don't let us down Ubisoft!

[PopBot]

1.3 patch PLEASE

Go Neal, thank you.

Ubi, how about a REAL patch this time? tell us what is going on, we'll wait if you promise to fix the real issues people are having.

[Fidd]

agreed.

[Tim Wheatley]

Here is a quote from my SH4 review, which remarks on how I feel about the sim in it's 1.1 form. 1.2 makes the sim playable but I believe 1.3 is a requirement!

"I’m going to be blunt. Development studios have got to stop releasing unfinished products just so they can meet their release date. Ubisoft have released an unfinished product here and just days after release, they had a patch ready to go that still didn’t sort the problems. Ubisoft were obviously not prepared to wait for another month so the development team could get this patch into the release version and Ubisoft have released what in my opinion is a beta product not in any way ready for release. Before playing Silent Hunter 4 you must install the 1.1 patch or it is not worth buying (even with the 1.1 patch it is not a more immersive and comprehensive simulator than Silent Hunter 3 was), this review is of the 1.1 version."

http://www.timwheatley.org/2007/03/23/silent-hunter-iv-wolves-of-the-pacific-review/

[AOTD_Hoschi]

absolutly needed !!!!

[Chooky88]

You owe it to your loyal customers. The way I see it, these are NOT major problems.

It's a moral and legal responsibility to fix this game to the required and advertised standard.

[revjack]

come on Devs....we need 1.3....lets keep the Silent Hunter series progressing in the right direction!!

[Siegfried von Funk]

Ubi, I must echo ALL the above posts. After buying the game on faith, plus over $200 in computer upgrades just to be able to do this thing properly, if you want me to EVER buy a Ubi product again, a 1.3 PLUS patch is imperative. Repeat: Imperative.

[jasondef]

What? You mean they ain't already gettin patch 1.3 going? It needs it Ubi, let's get SH4 to its full potential! Help us help you; keep your die-hard fan base happy! We'll return the favor by continually spreading the word on what a great job you've done on the SH series, and keep up our financial support on our drug of choice: your sub sims. :up:

[vanisher]

Make the patch for the loyal subsim lovers. atm it's not realistic anymore.
I have played it for a couple of hours, and now it's waiting in the closet for some fixing.

Version 3 rocked, i played over a 1000 hours.

Thanks in advance

[gdavison]

I played Silent Hunter 1 years ago and also was active in Silent Hunter 3, but then wandered away to other games for a few years.. When I relaised about 2 months ago SH4 was released i rushed out to get it ... Apart from the eye candy I was so dissapointed. Its so broke and unfinished .........

I have a Xbox360 and I have a lot of UBI games on that platform (Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Vegas, Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, Splinter Cell) so I know UBI can do it right .. but not in SH series it seems

[jdski]

S.O.S Ubisoft. We're counting on you.

[Jander]

/signed

[Schunken]

Come on UBI!

We know where you park your car! :arrgh!:

Make a patch!

Andreas

[trident]

I agree too. The game really needs a 1.3 patch. All issues in previous threads make this otherwise great game an annoyance to play. Especially the inactive destroyers and cruisers in task forces.

trident

[spidair]

Hear hear!

I have supported you thru 4 games, now it is time to support me :D

Make the patch, do it, c'on!!!

:up:

[Sheepdog]

Please do a third patch UBI soft. I bought this sim with high hopes, don't let it fall short, please don't disapoint.

[Mechman]

Just one or two more patches, and this could be truly great. I really hope Ubisoft doesn't pull to old EA move, and say its playable enough.

[Danish_Squid]

I am with Neal on this one, at least one more patch is needed to make SH4 what it could and should be!

Cheers
Staffan

[Hammer-GS]

I agree 1.3 please.

[kipper]

I have been Subsimming since Red Storm Rising and Aces of the Deep but I have held off my purchase of SH4 because there are some fundamental problems that remain to be fixed, by all accounts.

I would love to play this game.

Please - fix the main bugs that have been requested and let me buy this game!

Thanks,

Kipper

[GregDude]

Do the right thing UBI. Even if it costs you to finish a game you don't believe will bring you profit$, prove that we are your customers, not pockets to pick. We bought your game on good faith that we could play and enjoy it as advertised.

[Fat Bhoy Tim]

To say this game needs a 3rd patch is understating the issue a bit, it'll need to be one hell of a patch to fix all the myriad of issues.

[Gnagnus]

Absolutely needed a 1.3 or this game is headed to my dustbin!:x

[SimHq Tom Cofield]

I'm always for improving the game.

[WishMaster]

I haven't even opened up my copy yet, I bought the 2 of the collectors editions on the release date, one for me one for a mate... But after he told of the big problems he was having in the game i decided it was pointless even playing it untill ubisoft fix their product. By the looks of things it still hasn't been fixed yet either.

[Klaus von Weber]

The devil is in the details! In the end the details make the difference between a good and a great game. The bugs should be fixed!

[Doggie]

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[scourtney2]

Let's get the new patch up, let's go ubi!

[DJSatane]

Remember back when we had 1.2 patch changelog posted before its release? I was crying to get more fixes in, especially chronometer fix. I posted back then to slow it down and get as many fixes as possible because you never know how many patches we will get. I remember back then many people posting that they were confident more patches would come out and to relax. I guess that changed now. You have learned a lesson about UBI.

SH3 got 3 patches and I remember how UBI and SH4 developers promised game to have better support this time around. Hmmm....

[yairiny]

Come on UBI, let's get this one patched up and working right so we can look forward to buying SH5 as well.

[Juhis]

I agree. :up:

[Lucky245]

Let the Patch OUT Let the Patch OUT Let the Patch OUT Let the Patch OUT Let the Patch OUT Let the Patch OUT Let the Patch OUT Let the Patch OUT Let the Patch OUT Let the Patch OUT Let the Patch OUT Let the Patch OUT Let the Patch OUT Let the Patch OUT


Pull your finger out Ubisoft gives what we've paid hard money for. No wonder people pirate software if when you buy it, it doesn't even work properly.
:yep:

[The Oncoming Storm]

And so say we all.

[IRONxMortlock]

Signed

I completely agree

[hyperion2206]

Count me in for the "I-want-a-third-patch-demonstration"!:yep:

[RedTerex]

Patch 1.3 is needed to complete the game. Without it, the game will remain incomplete.

rgds.

[DisparateX]

I payed good money for the collectors edition. All the bells and whissles, yet the game itself was released before it was finished. I can't but think back to 688(i) HK about how so many people have to take action to get a company do what it was supposed to do. Present a finished product.

Patch Silent Hunter IV. Thank you.

[sorvad]

Don't post very often at all, but action is required. Hopefully more of people like me who are members but don't post often will do the same.

[melnibonian]

I'm in full support of Neal

[Roadsweeper]

SH 1,2 & 3 were good games costing me many hours sleep :)

Dont let SH4 be the black sheep of the family, give us Patch 3 pls.

<Gets on his knees and begs>

Ive had confidence in UBI so far, they have always come out for us in the end, dont let us down now. :up:

[Dagooz]

I agree. A patch is required. Get to work Ubi.

[Matyas]

I can't agree more : a new patch for Silent Hunter 4 is badly needed. Come on UBI!

[Sataris]

Signed

[Kruger]

Signed

[Nor Gitram]

UBI, fix the bugs please.

[McDaniel]

Do It! Ubi, just one time in your CASH and ROS and EBIT oriented world of living! :arrgh!:

Regards
Daniel

[welder]

Of course.

And the better the framework, the better wil be the chances that the community will keep it alive. (And keep customers buying it.)

Don't let it die, Ubi!
:rock:

ps: This is my first post, greetings fellow submariners! :)

[drEaPer]

/Signed!!

[Ubergeek87]

Signed!

Finish the game Ubi. I need my addiction back.

[ar73]

Another patch would be appreciated.

[grd]

We need that patch now, if it helps I am willing to return the soundtrack cd in exchange.:down:
hopefully
GRD

[GSpector]

My only gripe is that I would like proper U.S. Navy Uniforms and the medals fixed by them.

Signed :up:

[johnno74]

I haven't brought SH4 yet, mainly because of the reports of problems on these forums.

And unless these problems are rectified then there is 0% chance that I will buy it.

UBI, you've invested this much money/effort into the game, surely your developers are telling you they can get a much better product with just a little bit more?

You've invested 99% of the money, and so far got 75% of the result. Why wouldn't you invest the final 1% and get the remaining 25% done, and finish with a product that this community can keep alive for many years to come.

Leaving the game in a semi-complete state is a shocking waste of the money you've already invested.

Shame :down:

[Cool-Ice1962]

We Player need this Patch 1.3 and I hope he´s comming up next time

[longdog499]

If they just take the money and run on this one they'll never see any of my money again!!!!!!!!:down:

[LGN1]

I support Neal's statement wholeheartedly!

[DaChubby]

I support Neal's statement

[jonny5j]

i agree with neal we need another patch

[Drewitz]

I´ve bought a half sim, I want my other half back. Fix it! :down:

[Fer1967]

Please, UBI, finish your work.

The patch is really needed.

[rangepig]

Just adding my name to the request list. I echo all that's been said before about the bugs that need fixed. PLEASE do this!!!

--rangepig

[print1391]

Please please please give us patch 1.3.........:stare: The game really needs this to finish it. It's such a shame because it could be excellent

[Winston]

I got this game just a few days after it came out. Played to for one day for a few hours and decided that it needed patching. I’m keeping an eye on subsim waiting for a suitable patch to ‘surface’ Har har har!

Consider me singed up

[fullmetaledges]

great work neal, 1.3 is definatly needed

[muzzstar]

Yes 1.3 patch please! and as others have said fix the issues listed and others, also the crew members graphics seem weird at times, they look like cardboard cutouts are nowhere near as cool looking as SH3 crew memebers, i know that doesnt add to the play-ability-of the game but would still be cool to see them properly!

[Lir]

Fingers out Ubi.:arrgh!:

[maeeh]

Please give us that patch UBI

[Grey Area]

After the SH3 debacle regarding patches, I have held off buying SH4 until it's reported that it works as advertised.

Therefore UBI you are losing revenue by rolling out incomplete products as unless you prove yourselves, I will not buy another UBI product.

Sort the game out, and I'll buy it; simple.

/signed.

[Juan de la cosa]

Dear sirs, we like your recently released game SILENT HUNTER IV, but we need it fully developed. Please fulfill our demand.
regards.

B.

[Fire_Spy]

Add my signature as well..

[mr darcy]

Signed as well

[Igorry]

Holding my purchase until it is patched.

[JSAG1]

I've just had enough.
Any feeling of immersion is lost when one of these bugs strike. It's like having a bucket of cold water thrown over you.
So I'm off to GPL and Condor Soaring for a month or two or more 'til this shambles gets sorted.

Very sad.

[Wildhawke11]

You did it before with SH3 but i still took a chance on SH4. But enough is enough for me anyway. The choice is in your hands. Give me what i paid for ( a playable game ) or i am finished with UBI I for good. I guess it comes down to "Fool me once - your fault - Fool me twice my fault"


Thank You Neal

[Eric75]

I agree,we need a patch to solve the important remaining problem.
For the moment I don't want to play this game without the problem fixed.

[Garfield]

/signed.

[Warmonger]

You have my support as well though I'm not playing that much right now. :up:

[nvdrifter]

Beg for a patch? Who, me? Forget it. :down: I shouldn't have to beg for crap. I paid good money for SH4 and Ubisoft should fix SH4 right no matter what. We customers owe Ubisoft nothing. As paying customers Ubisoft owes us a correctly patched SH4. I think Ubisoft knew they were going to take the money and run from the very beginning. :shifty:

[goonshow]

Signed. I've given up on SH4. The game play just isn't there for me.

[toby66]

I second that. We need that 1.3 Patch.

[b1bmsgt]

I agree!! Patch 1.3 and probably more is sorely needed. The game is simply not what was advertised as of yet.

I definitely will not buy any other UBI product if Sh4 is not brought up to specs.




Russ :arrgh!:

[stefostef]

i need a 1.3 patch and a DX10 patch

[theaviator]

Well I've been waiting to here the reports on SH4 before buying it, but from what I hear it MUST get the 1.3 patch beofore I part with cash !

Terry

[flickjax]

This is a good game that could be great...come on Ubisoft

[mgbmike]

Beg for a patch? Who, me? Forget it. :down: I shouldn't have to beg for crap. I paid good money for SH4 and Ubisoft should fix SH4 right no matter what. We customers owe Ubisoft nothing. As paying customers Ubisoft owes us a correctly patched SH4. I think Ubisoft knew they were going to take the money and run from the very beginning. :shifty:

I totally agree! I paid for a finished product. It's time to deliver UBI!!!!!

[AntEater]

signed:up:

[Mikemike]

Yes I agree with everyone also a new patch is needed for SH4. It is important for UBI to stand behind their products.

[Vladd]

gets my vote...

[Trip]

Aside from the issue of finishing a game that was sold incomplete, I think the number of people who buy SH5 might be affected by whether or not this game is corrected. As it stands I stopped playing SH4 because of the bugs. I'll go back to it if it is fixed, but I won't buy SH5 if it isn't.

Trip

[sav112gla]

I bought SH III and still play it on occasion every few months, I got bored with it in the end but adding mods made it a new game but it never ran well for me.

But as with SH IV I never bought it as I knew it would be rubbish out of the box, thing is after reading all the posts I’m not going to either.


Stop releasing games with the opinion well its broke but we can patch it later…..Never had this option when I was younger, the games worked out of the box………


Disgusted and shocked that these developers can’t get this basic fundamental right, it seems to be the lazy half arsed approach theses days my other few games are the same BF2 was patched from day one and FM07 was patched all the way.

I’m only playing BF as I have the PR mod which opens up a epic game….I’ll come back it six months and see whats whats when I get my new quad machine for winter

[Fischer]

Signed !

[lokkers]

Agreed - software houses seem to release BETA products nowadays with the view that they can patch them up to GOLD once the money comes in. This isn't the right approach at all - GOLD products should be the only ones released after proper BETA testing. Consumers shouldn't have to pay £20-40 for the dubious honour of BETA testing unfinished products. UBI aren't alone in this (DICE/EA and Activision anyone?) but I too can remember playing games that needed one patch several months later to fix obscure niggling bugs, not immediate patching to fix show stoppers.

If you're gonna do it, do it properly!

(EDIT: First post on this forum and it's a rant - a first for me!)

[chazcozens]

Vote with your wallet! I'm not buying any more Ubisoft games until this one is fixed!

[gottel]

We love submarine games / simulations, please patch SH IV

Gottel

[Jensen]

I agree.... signed!

[AndyHill]

Count me in. This game is too good to be left almost finished.

[Yan]

Me too!

[Jeamp]

Here comes a french speaking customer, rather disappointed with SH4: difficult to find the same atmosphere as in FS III, and an unfinished product. The two first patches were necessary, and there are still many bugs left. The only answer is a serious third update, Thank you for your help !

[horsa]

This game is potentially too good to be left in its current patch state. Come on Ubi , don't let your sub skippers down - lets see 1.3

[d@rk51d3]

Amen!

[Krasny]

i shall play SHIII and not purchase SHIV until SHIV is in a completed state

[Fishu]

The only reason I haven't played SH4 much at all is due to bugs and clearly lacking features - please fix the bugs or I will not buy a single ubisoft game anymore (which are many). I paid for a game that works and which I can enjoy. Nothing talks so much of a publisher than what their end product is like.

[coronas]

Ubisoft: We need patch 1.3. I still haven't buy SH4 because it´s an incomplete product. No more cheaps!:mad:

[She-Wolf]

Ubisoft. A game that does not deliver to promises and expectations is a turn-off, a frustration and UNFINISHED.
As such it is likely to go back on the shelf and your name will be MUD.

Please listen to the subsim community and deliver a final patch to correct the problems.

All games of any depth and substance have to be patched; no-one can foresee the snags and glitches - and patching until you get it right should be part of the package of delivery.

Please honour your committment to the loyal band who buy your games, and the hard work your team have put into them, and make SH4 a GREAT game that will have us singing your praises for years to come.:up:

[U2222]

As Neil says, there are issues to be resolved to make SH4 run the way we expect it to. Please sort it out for us Ubisoft.

[ae4rv]

11 years. Why must it be so flawed? Please fix it UBI - it really needs two or three patches.

[horrgakx]

Signed.
I've actually stopped playing SH4 because of these issues.

[sciaba]

I also agree that a patch is sorely needed. I've decided to refrain from playing the game until a patch comes out. It's just too frustrating... I really hope that the people who gave us such a masterpiece as SHIII will not abandon us, also considering the great potentialities of SH4. What a waste would be to leave the game as it is, after so much work!

[Torpman]

Ubi you must listen to this thread. This community is second to none anywhere for it's knowlegde and sincerity. Any company needs a solid base from which to operate. Fail your customers at your peril - this community is your most solid customer base. If we are asking it is necessary.
Please don't fail us but also don't initiate the decline of simulation games and Ubisoft which has given so much.
Torpman

[Martin1813]

a patch is absoloutly necessary.:shifty:

[Snake Man]

We need your help to demonstrate the need for patch 1.3. Join the campaign here and make yourself heard. Post here. Don't hesitate or put it off. This thread will need hundreds of names to merit any attention.
I would very much like to see Silent Hunter 4 v1.3 patch done & released. Please Ubisoft, hear our voices.

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[Merlin]

I almost never post on forums, but this is a game I really want to be playing for years to come. Those games you play for a long period keep an interest in the maker of that game, a good marketing tool.

Ubisoft please don't do to SH4 what you did with Pacific Fighters.

The mod community do an incredible job, SH3 for instance which I am still playing, and don't expect to be giving up any time soon. But they can only do so much.

We desperately need a patch.

[vickers03]

patch 1.3 is needed. (and the sdk of course):yep:

[Klaus_Doldinger]

The game needs a 1.3 patch, of course.

[KapitanDeepblu]

Like all of us, I play the subsims that interest us each individually.

Like the rest, I was anxiously awaiting SH4. I wanted to get back into a US sub and patrol the pacific.

Ubi, please complete and issue patch 1.3 as the subsim community has great need for such and you have it within your authority and power to do so.

My dad always told me that you can lead, follow, or you need to get out of the way.

I would most prefer and encourage you to lead.

With most respect.

Kapitandeepblu
BdU
Atlantik Kampagne

[Blindside]

Fully agree to the need to 'chivvy" the design team along with completing a patch to solve the enumerable problems ( already listed by members ) . This game cannot be allowed to sink in such an incomplete state !
To the barricades!!!!!!


Blindside

[Eisenhorn]

As so many have already indicated. You have a winner here Ubisoft! Don't let it sink to the bottom. Fix everything that's feasible to fix. Give us another patch. Please.:yep:

[thefretmaster]

i dont own the game yet because of my pc but i dont think at the moment i would because of some of the issues i have heard about... bring out 1.3!!

[Gewehr 43]

I'll sign this as well. There's so much potential here...

[qvcatullus]

Hey all, just thought I'd weigh in.
I loved the previous silent hunter titles (came across them recently rather than playing when they originally came out) and have been saving up a little money to get a few more computer games. Silent Hunter IV was on my list to get, but I'd heard that it's still pretty buggy. If I'd known how bad Medieval II, for example, was going to be up until (and to a degree, through) the notorious 1.2 patch, I'd have waited to get it as well. Nothing as frustrating as trying to play a great game but getting held up by the leftover 'quirks.'

Anyway, the game engine is amazing and I can't wait for the patch to come out so that I can go purchase a copy of the game. So you've got one eager customer who's willing to help you recoup the cost of implementing the patch, by at least whatever share of the purchase price you guys get for one copy. Maybe two if I can convince my friend to come aboard as well.

[Kusunoki]

The first 2 patches made the game much more stable, please give us a 3rd patch to fix the remaining issues.

[Double Daddy]

Ubisoft, please fulfill your customers' reasonable expectations that you produce and support products able to meet intended usage.

[Rick Martin]

I concur wholeheartedly with Neal's comments and suggestions. These are relatively small but important problems that need to be addressed. One more patch should bring the game up to where it should have been when released. The modders can then work on really great "Nice to have" mods to tweak the game.
By the way, been using Imperial measures but have been setting the fish to run shallow rather than under the keel. Seems to help also have the 25% increased torpedo mod and the explosions are great. For mods like that I try them out on the Naval academy. Needed 4 or five torpedos to sink the cruiser but have done it with three. Yes, UBI Soft please do the next patch and fix the game. Its pretty good now but needs those final few fixes to really set it right......."Haze gray, and Underway":D :arrgh!:

[kaptkirkU4467]

BdU of the Wolfpack League (http://subclub.info/phpBB_subclub/viewforum.php?f=1) reporting in..
We need the fix to keep people in our SH4 div,ComSubPac ,playing the game....as it stands,I will have to allow mods for SH4 stats,just to make the sim hit the bottom line for people to use.
http://subclub.info/phpBB_subclub/viewforum.php?f=35
Cheers,
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7131/newdz4xm7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[lecek]

This is simple, the game is not completed. I payed for this game and it didn't deliver. You may get away with this on this game if you don't release a third patch, but I won't be buying UBIsoft games in the future. Scamming your customers is not a good way to keep them.

This game needs another patch.

[FesterShinetop]

\Signed

It's a great game allready, but with the last fixes it can be the best. I stopped playing to wait for the last patch and be able to play the game like it was meant to be!!

[rlaycock]

support Neal's statement.

[DGJ]

I bought both SH2 and DC directly when they were released. To release those games really showed Ubisoft's contempt for the fans, they were 33% finished at most. So I waited a little longer when SH3 came out to make sure I didn't make a misstake again. While SH3 was good, it could have been much better. Now, Ubisoft needs to show that they are a respectable game publisher BY RELEASING A THIRD PATCH to fix the issues in SH4.

[Zepheron]

SH4 has a long way to go. Get us closer with 1.3.

[LW_Vector]

Please please Please please Please please Please please Please please Please please Please please patch me up

[Herr Flick]

First post ever on this forum. Been reading it for quite some time though.
Haven't purchased the game, because people said it was filled with bugs.
Ubisoft: patch this game adequately and I'm buying it...

And hello to the subsim-world.

[Engel]

Signed.
We need and we deserve a Patch.

[JCWolf]

This is a request from all of us,
so I can only say, that I agree with every each one
who posted and will post here since
this game needs a lot more improvement and file
fixes then normal....

Rush its the enemy of perfection!

Totalu support this thread purpose and objective!

[Axeman3d]

Once again they release a half finished product and wander off and start on the next fiasco. FIX IT!

[wonderstoat]

I agree! This game is 80% there. But certain fundamentals need fixed before the modders can take it and make it a truly great game - a la GWX.

Ubisoft - you have a remarkable resource here - a bunch of borderline nutters who will devote hundreds of man-hours to modding, providing huge replay potential and spreading the word for future SH incarnations.

Please please leave us with a game in a state that can support this!

Wonderstoat.

[D_arkTrooper]

If ever a game needed patching,it`s this one.Don`t let us down Ubi.Support the people who supported you by buying the game in the first place.

[FoddaUK]

There a so many annoying bugs left, that the sim feels more like a chore sometimes getting everything right. And even as a European I'd like to be able to play the game using imperial measurements rather than metric. That one is a real enjoyment killer.

Please keep supporting this sim Ubi.

[thegroo]

Fix it.

[mountainmanUK]

Bought this game on Pre-order as I was REALLY looking forward to it!
First install...BIG disappointment...too many bugs!
Two Patches later......getting there, but still a LOT to fix!!

Come on please Ubi.......you have some VERY frustrated Kaleunen eager to sail!!

"What do we want?"........PATCH THREE
"When do we want it?"......NOW!

Thank you in anticipation of a speedy response! (..or not!)

[DRat]

Bring it on!

[Lzs von swe]

I have held this game in my hands several times, but always put it back on the shelf, remembering what I read here at SUBSIM. Even though it is coming down in price fast.

Patch the game UBI and I, and probably many more, will buy it. Otherwise it will continue to collect dust on the shelfs.

[Lionclaw]

Signed!

I'm mostly a lurker here but I had to post to give my vote that a 3rd patch is needed for "Silent Hunter 4". :up:


I'm considering to stop purchasing PC games altogether because of those morons that think it's a good idea to release a beta version of a game to the public. :damn:

I'm tired of publishers that release half finished games. :shifty:

[Brausepaul]

I totally agree. I personally know three people who would love to buy the game but stay away until it works as it should. This game needs at least one additional patch.

[Rhodes]

I vote Yes, bring the patch now!

[Kuzz]

Now I have to agree with this one.
I'm always been a strong supporter of the franchize and I loved SHIII from square one. I bought SHIV on the day it was released, but after two months of waiting I, not only as a customer, but also as a fan and an admirer, feel LET DOWN by the developers.

We gave you the money worth a whole game, and got half a game in return.
You still owe us half a game as far as I am concerned.

[Womble]

Haven't bought it yet, due to the reviews.
Once Neal's happy however.......

[Wim Libaers]

I still haven't bought this game, still waiting to see what the next patch will fix.

[Ultra54]

Fix the damn game!

[sphericus]

These errors definately need to be resolved sometime in the near future if the game is going to be playable on a consistant level.

Not to mention for the reputation of the franchise.

[SCTAYLOR]

I vote Yes, bring the patch now!

Agree

[Pingjockey]

Add me to your list. Sorry about not being online much but the boat has been keeping me busy and you know how busy that can make us, Thanks

Pingjockey
USS Texas SSN 775

[JackAubrey]

Ubisoft, your DEV team has created the most visually stunning sub sim ever, but patch 1.3 is necessary to allow them to fix some critical bugs that are still present in the game.


That´s my opinion too. SH4 is just plain beautiful. Making it completely playable incl. Chronometer fix, AI fix and everything that is mentioned here would be a show of dedication and professionalism and nonetheless respect to the customers.

[tower6]

Hello Fellow Skippers I feel another patch is VERY well needed I still have crashes for example while my sub is underwater I put up my observation periscope or attack periscope and it kicks me out into windows! that is becoming very annoying however Ubisoft has managed to get rid of that "invisible monolith" thank goodness for that. but I feel strongly that another patch is needed anyone else have underwater game crashes as well? I'd hate to be the only one

Thanks all and good hunting!

Tower6

[sqwurl]

/signed

[Fishie]

To the Devs-

It is because of the condition of the game that I have yet to purchase your product.

I bought SH1 through 3. I regretted 3, but you pulled the fat out of the fire at the last possible minute.

Do this, and I will gurantee you at least one more copy sold.

To Ubisoft- I know dozens, if not hundereds who feel the same way I do. If you believe the SH franchise to be a "poor seller", then you need only look into the mirror for the culprit. To rush this fine team of devs to a premature release for a quick buck will never recoup all the costs and risks you took.

Allow the team to develop this last patch, and reap the rewards of increased sales, once you use this outlet (subsim.com) as a massive staging point for an announcement for the third patch.

Have a good day-

the ever lurking Fishie

[tipo2944]

:arrgh!: please patch this game so i can sail off into the sunset like all good sailors.

tipo2944

[Smokey]

Everything else we pay for we expect to work 100%, cars, washers & dryers, etc.
Why should a computer simulation be any different? If this were my new car I
guarentee it would go back to the dealer. Please fix it.

[jpfx]

please continue to release fixes and gameplay improvements.

[pmaura]

o/ vote here to fix

[sbrengard]

/Signed.

We need a comprehensive third patch

[Richard Zapp]

We need another patch

[Inkblot]

Good on yer Neal, it needed pointing out that another patch at least is required so UBI what's holding you up?

[Freakwave]

Signed up just to vote for a 1.3 patch, please do consider! and execute of course..

[woofiedog]

I Sincerly Hope that the Development Team/UBI continues with updates/patches for SHIV. A game that needs more to bring it out to it's Greater Potenial!

[popsnz]

signed.it needs tp be fixed


pops

[AJ!]

Behind you all the way Neal! :up:

[Col1409]

First post for me, I have bought all the other Silent Hunter titles, and just about every other WWII subsim out there since about 1990 I've watched these games graphically and technically improve I think that the Silent Hunter series is the best I've seen.
I bought the special edition of of Silent Hunter 4. I've not installed it yet as my PC is not up to running it, my new PC arrives next week and I hesitate to install it on the new machine if it's as buggy as the community says it is (and I trust the community so I believe it is).
From the screen shots i've seen the game looks beautiful. If you could make the game play match the graphics I'm sure you would have a world class game here.
UBI please release patch 1.3

Thanks in advance

[SirHendrik]

As we have no SDK or anything else to fix these f*cking bugs, we need YOU (ubi) to fix them.
We payed a lot of money, you earned a lot of money. Currently we are doing everything possible: We search the bugs, we describe the bugs, we test on different environements, we try to fix some bugs with mods.
What are you doing? Nothing else than earning money. if you don't want to keep the Silent Hunter series in your program, the PLEASE fix the critical bugs and PLEASE release a SDK, so we can keep this great game alive.
Hey, you can even charge mondey for the SDK if you want! So it might be a good deal four you, too!

A desperate AddOn coder with a lot of problems understanding your file formats.
Sir Hendrik aka Ricky_75

[U-666]

Ubi Soft should finish what it begins, period. I will be thinking twice about buying any other new games from them if they abandon this one.

[acid001]

heres my vote, put out the damn patch and finish your product ubi!!!

[r0n1n]

Hi!

I can't offer any testimony on whether SH IV is good or bad: I have held off purchasing the game after reading many independent reviews and player comments regarding the number and severity of bugs in the game.

I would like the game to be at least as mature (with regard to bugs that require developer intervention) as SH III was after its final patch before I purchase it, but it appears from player comments and feedback on V1.2 that SH IV is not quite there yet.

I think the game could be quite a worthy successor and improvement upon SH III and a game I would consider really worth buying, so I would like to encourage Ubisoft and the development team to make the necessary repairs and make available any information that would allow the modding community to take it from there, even if it takes another patch... or two.

Pablo

My sentiment exactly. Once the bugs are fixed, I'll glady pay up for SH IV. :up:

I learned from pain of experience with SHIII about being a Ubisoft early adopter with initial 1.0 releases! :roll:

[jab2]

Since the intention was to develope a sim true to real live, why distract from this goal with so many thing that does not work as they should?:hmm:

[Slick Rick]

Beta testing all over again.....make this game run the way it should......Rick

[Trouser_Thief]

/signed.

I don't have SHIV, but I love SHIII. I haven't bought SHIV yet because I've been waiting for it to get patched properly. Please UBI, please don't leave it to the mod community to fix the game this time!

[mbv]

Just adding my support to the need for a 1.3 patch. Come on UBI get it done!

[Dauntless]

I don't own Silent Hunter IV, yet, as I've been waiting for it to be brought up to speed.

I own the Silent Hunter series and probably every other sub sim ever released!

Just like a lot of other people here, I bought Silent Hunter III the day it was released!!
I bought it not just because of my attraction to U-Boat sims, but also to show support the genre and the game series.

Silent Hunter III still needs another patch to make her complete but Ubi has never bothered to finish it, prefering to move on to something new, so as to get more of our hard earned money.
Thus, leaving all us loyal customers high and dry!

I've been wanting to get Silent Hunter IV since before it's release, but I've held off on it, until it gets fixed.

If it doesn't get fixed, l will have no problem waiting and buying it from the cheap bin, or just not buy it at all!

After the problems with so many incomplete games and sims last few years, I've come to the conclusion that...

I'm not buying incomplete/broken sims or games anymore!!

If Ubi wants my money, they're gonna hafta fix Silent Hunter IV.

<rant mode off>

[Rebel-e]

At Ubisoft.com for a drunken rant about how badly this game sucks! Repair teams don't repair, Course plots cannot be drawn on the map, you have to make little check marks with the pencil, even after switching targets, the TDC sometimes sends your next torp to your last target... I could go on and on, but just fix the damn game! Using your loyal customer base as your paying(!) beta testers is shameful. Shame on you, Ubisoft!

[Jimbuna]

People have payed good money and deserve more than a half baked potato :yep:
Come on Ubi...finish cooking the meal :arrgh!:

[Carolus Rex]

UBI, please get the new patch out!

[That's not my dog]

Count me in on getting that next patch. I have not bought the game but have watched this whole unfortunate drama unfold. They fix it, I will buy it, plain and simple.
SHIII was good when it was released, but it needed some work and it was this community who made it happened after UBISOFT abandoned it.
I totally support modding sims, I just think it should not fall on our shoulders to FIX their progams. I will now step off my soapbox. Happy Hunting, God's speed.....
:arrgh!:

[Foxendown]

Full support for the comments made. SHIV was at the top of my list of sims that I was really looking forward to. Now it isn't even on that list because I know that I couldn't enjoy it with the bugs it still has. Such a shame, because SHIII as it now stands is a masterpiece and shows clearly where SHIV could go.

[CobraCommander]

/signed


...nuff said.

[yankee-V]

Ditto to all. We need Patch 1.3, with all fixes detailed by Neal.

[charlesmester]

I agree we need a patch or even 2, I have quit playing until this is resolved and I have bought 2 copies of the game. What a shame.

Chuck

[ParaB]

Due to a number of problems I have actually gone back to SH3 for the time being. I am really hoping a third patch will be released, otherwise SH4 will always have that "unfinished" label for me.

[Cobra_mkII]

I have to say that the only reason I pulled the game out from the back of my desk (after throwing it there in disgust at the number of bugs that came to light in just 1 hours game time) was the modders who put time and effort into the game, for the pleasure it gave themselves and other users. Modders 1

Even so we desperatley need patch 3. Ubisoft Nil

[Sir Cappy]

:lol: I will join in the effort to get the patch that you referenced.

All are waiting for it !!

[stanfitz]

I keep having some issues with SH4 that a patch should be able to fix.

Please someone fix Silent Hunter 4 so that it runs the way it should run.

[irish1958]

The project managers must either be the Marx Brothers or the Three stooges! First they make a game that requires a modern gaming machine that probably only 0.01% of the computers can play, thereby cutting out a large percentage of the market; and then they issue an incomplete game and apparently refuse to fix it.

[platounet]

As long that improvements can be made, they must be done! It's a matter of respect for the player and a principle of quality that will be positive for UBI and the future games.

[Lagg-Alot]

I think that SH 3 played much more realistic than sh4. The only things better is sh 4 is the graphics.

I have uninstalled SH 4 and have no intentions of ever buying a UBI Soft product in the future. Very disappointing :down:

[Cujo]

Yes, 1.3 is a requirement if UBI wants more of my dollars in future game purchases. I currently oun 6 UBI products and holding.

[Elphaba]

I want the chrono bug, tdc, conning tower bugs fixed asap. have stopped playing until these are fixed - and i bought the deluxe version

Boo Ubisoft...Boo!!!:down:

[Woop n Ride]

I was disabled in 2003 and most of the time house bound . I turned to the computer for companonship and found the Subsim community and SH3. Since then my life has not been boring and I get lots of joy playing SH3-GWX and reading the forums and getting to know my shipmates. Have recently just joined replying in the forums. When you are disabled and on a set income money is hard to come by. So when SH4 was going to be released me and my wife began saving change and cans to sell to save the money for the game. The day of the release I had it in my hands. What Joy. Now I feel betrayed and cheated because the product was not complete as advirtised. Ubisoft you owe me for any patch that is needed. Ubisoft, this is not a feel sorry for me post, this is to show you just how loyal a fan I am of your sub games. This post is simply to get you to get off your ass and patch this game, as I a disabled person got off his ass and bought your game. Hoist the sails Neal, I'm with you on this.

[theluckyone17]

I'm going to throw in my two cents: I'm irritated with Ubisoft. Yes, SH4 is a good product. Is it great? No. Is it good enough? That's debatable. I tend towards the hardcore side of sub simming, with enough salt thrown in to make up for little irritants (c'mon, I'm sitting in front of a monitor... I have to let some things slide). Major irritants... well, they kick me out of the zone I was in, and leave me cursing the game. Ubi becomes guilty by association in my mind, at that point.

Now I realize a good portion of today's PC game producers leave their products in an unfinished state, either by not including promised features, leaving bugs, or simply sweeping problems under the rug (trying to conceal them).

If Ubi allows the dev's to continue patching SH4, then Ubi stands above the rest of the market. I know they stand behind their product. I will have no problems purchasing a new sim, knowing that if their product has an issue, they will repair it. If they do not, then they have lost my faith, and any future purchases.

So far, I've been rather faithful to Ubi... I've purchased SH3, SH4, all of the Il-2 Sturmovik series (excepting 1946), Ghost Recon, etc. I may be a sub fanatic, but I do wander outside that niche. Losing faith in Ubi means losing those other purchases, too... more than just the next sub sim Ubi puts out (if they put one out).

I'd love to add one other thing: The PC game market is such right now that I'm becoming very irritated. A great deal of the games are the "same old" regurgitated content and playstyle, just revamped and shiny. The games that do dare to go outside the trend (thanks, Ubi, for the simulations!), are often buggy and/or incomplete.

I don't purchase the first, and I will not purchase the second if I lose faith in the producer to give me a solid experience.

Enough irritation, and I'm very tempted to just drop commercial PC gaming completely. I've been keeping an eye on the "Danger From The Deep" project, knowing it's open source. There were a few instances where SH3 irritated me, leaving me at DFTD's website, wondering if I ought to get involved in their project. Right now, I do not have enough experience to get seriously involved... however, I will if I become irritated enough.

My point? SH3 had a very solid modder's community, taking a product from Ubi and extending it, bringing it ever so closer to the ideal. There are currently problems in SH4 (and SH3, for that matter) that the modders simply cannot fix, due to the problems being hard coded. With commercial products, that's the end of the story... they simply cannot fix them. With an open source product like DFTD, they can.

So if Ubi lets me down on SH4, I will most likely turn my attentions from any other future sub sim from Ubisoft, and place those attentions and energy on a project like DFTD. And I will do my best to be vocal about it, encouraging other modders to "come with me." If a company will not provide me with the experience I desire, I will help to build it myself.

Obviously, that'd require a relatively massive effort, much more than is required to purchase and play a sub sim from Ubi (or any other producer I have faith in). I'd be much happier having Ubi follow through on their support of SH4, allowing me to continue my faith in them, enjoy SH4, and continue to purchase their products in the future.

If not, that's fine... I'll do it myself :yep:.

[ipaulisic]

What can I say but to agree with all of you guys. SH3 was a great thrill which was boosted even more by GWX - btw, great job guys. I spent days and nights "at sea", so much that it became a joke between my friends.

When SH4 was announced I drooled over released screenshots and couldn't wait for the release date. As soon as SH4 was available in shops I bought it and in short time I was dissapointed with the number of bugs in the game. It offers great visual effects but "the core" is missing (like in some girls ;))...

What we need is patching as long as all major bugs are removed, AI gets better and all the other stuff already mentioned here gets fixed. Otherwise, I will certainly think at least twice before I ever buy something from Ubi again.

Last but not least - what's with this "you need to beg for a patch" attitude? Ubi, you make a living from customers or vice versa?

Regards to all from Croatia,
I.P.

[Katschmarek123]

I too agree: a game like this need to be completed by the company, which get the money from the customers.

--> I never played this game, but read the forum closeley AND either a game, which works fine OR never my money in your busket... :o

[C-4]

It's a shame that SHIV was so quickly released, when so many bugs were still unfixed. It's now Ubi's responsibility to fix it! Give this game the respect it deserves, and make it one of the best subsims ever.

C-4

[Fishbait]

I was not going to purchase SH4 untill all the major bugs had been ironed out as SH3 became a superb game after all the fixes were released, but I like many people wanted to see what Ubisoft could do with the extra processing and graphics power available to more modern computers and yes I did also upgrade my graphics card after seeing the original specs.

I was severely disappointed by SH4, it was obviously a game that was released too quickly after too little testing. Yes. the graphics are fantastic and so much more has been added to the game - mission wise apart from the SH3 "go to an area and patrol for 24 hours" that can prove very challenging. Graphics and gameplay aside, the basics didn't work.

SH4 needs patch 1.3 and probably patch 1.4 as well (any patch created will normally highlight other bugs).

As it stands under 1.2 we can now consistently hit what we are aiming at (?) but too much seems still to be lacking.

The chronometer is the most important bug, it was also one of the most important instruments in the submarines, if this doesn't work, the game doesn't work.

My lookouts cannot seem to spot aircraft at all and have to rely on radar to pick them up (at 2-4,000 yards) leaving not enough time to dive to escape the highly accurate depth charges.

Early war (1940) Japanese convoy escorts have perfected the 1943-44 allied tactic of 3 destroyers attacking and 1 listening without needing any sort of learning curve as was present in SH3 and all those destroyers which aren't crewed by brain dead zombies seem to have perfect sonar capabilites, reacting to evasive measures even as they are making a depth charge run.

The maunual is lacking all those niceties that were present in the SH3 manual, what are the differences between the various American submarines, what is my maximum diving depth and how far can my torpedoes reach at what speeds?

I support the call for additional patches as needed as what is presently a mediocre game has the potential to be the best sub sim on the market.

Hats off to Ubisoft for what they have accomplished so far but please continue to support the game to a playable standard.

[AirborneTD]

UBI, please continue to patch this sim. The potential here is incredible. Don't let us down.

[ProV1]

I would like to echo Neal's comments. I am still having ctds during campaigns. This is a great game but still needs bugs fixed. One of the annoying things is lifeguard duty. I can come up on a downed pilot showing on radar and cannot see him visually. I spent two hours trying to pick one up and finally cancelled the campaign. I have been rammed by destroyers several times in a campaign and never have been sunk.

[kapitan_zur_see]

yes, this game has to be patched to 1.3

[CTSnowman]

I'm waiting for the patch and then I'll buy it.:hmm:

[jonvon]

Finish what you started UBI, the Silent Hunter Series has had a great reputation. It should be completed properly.

RDP

totally agree

[nikits72]

Go ahead.
Patch it!

[JohnMalcolm1970]

Do it... please

[Renard]

:ping: Just something small, however; for a new (3 years) subsim guy it is realy anoying.... a: can not move around top of Conning tower on all subs this is a pain when trying to desigante targets manualy ie: Deck / Flak gunners and b: Signal lights from several ships are visable for long distances even when fog / enviro effects are on when in heavy weather or the typical London fog. This also comes into effect as a sprite box (?) when seen from con tower through binoculars looking at a mainstay or even radar mount texture and shines right through it clearly... just a thought. c: Anyone else getting green screens rarely when switching through stations? I have found that Alt Tab corrects this so may have something to do with direct dll?

[VT-51_Razor]

Finish what you started UBI, the Silent Hunter Series has had a great reputation. It should be completed properly.

RDP

I couldn't agree more. Please finish it. You're better than this UbiSoft.

[jimmie]

add my small vote!

[glimrman]

Quote from Neal.....It's coming up on two months since Silent Hunter 4 was released...Two patches have brought the game up to where it is stable and most of the basic features are functional, but there are still several key aspects that need attention...but has yet to reach the point where we consider it complete. The future of the Silent Hunter franchise depends on maintaining a reputation for quality.

imho........It's time for game producers to step up to the plate and stop releasing half-finished games to loyal customers! (who do they think they are...Microsoft!?) :damn: Anything less is not acceptable
and in most other arenas such behavior would be considered fraud and/or criminal.

[vindex]

If Ubisoft does not release a 1.3 patch to SH4, I propose that the Subsim community take up a collection to place a full-page ad in leading game magazines decrying their failure to do so, and the incomplete and unacceptable state of the game. I will be the first to contribute, and it will be more than $50.

A few gripes on the Web are not enough. Talk of lawsuits is fanciful -- you'd never win. But I presume that Ubi does care about immolating its brand reputation with both devs and consumers at large. Abandoning a product has consequences, and unless we drive those consequences home, we will just be suckers.

I have been keeping the faith so far. I am not one of those people who says SH4 is crap, because it is 90% good but with serious flaws that any company should be deeply concerned about and make an effort to fix. I continue to have faith that Ubisoft will not commit a serious mistake and will fulfill its good faith bargain with its customers.

I'm not wedded to the particular idea I propose; I think we should brainstorm about what is the most effective (and cost-effective) form of consumer protest that would have a serious impact on Ubisoft's bottom line. Unless we do so, we will be treated like chumps ... because we will be chumps.

Having stated stick, now let me add the carrot: If Ubi does complete this game, not to perfection but at least to a reasonable degree of correct functionality, it will earn my gratitude and admiration as a customer. The Ubisoft label and the "Silent Hunter" brand will continue to be a plus in my book.

[JREX53]

I vote for a New Patch.

[impearse]

I have spent a long time playing and enjoying SH3, in solo mode and online with others. The combination of patches from the Dev team and the modders input have made it a superb game. SH4 was eagerly awaited, and something of a let-down. Yes, there is a hell of a lot of potential in it, but the basics need to be finished off first. The same combination of dev fixes and modders input could make this a fantastic game. Please, folks, keep up the good work.:D

[flecha]

To Ubisoft; please don´t leave this game unfinished. I´ve been really looking forward to buy it but after reading the issues still standing I´m holding back.


Cheers, Javier Socorro 'flecha'

[gmkrupka]

Hello Neil,
I also feel that Ubisoft should not be allowed to get away with not fulfilling there duty in delivering a quality SubSim. Please add my vote and let's put the pressure on them!

[HedgeHogSim]

I too have been holding off on purchasing this sim until it is fixed. SHIII received the attention it needed and was a great sim. In fact, it turned a non-sim action junkie into a hardcore sim fan. This game looks better, and has potential to be better, but it needs fixed. Please, don't give up on your next masterpiece. I will be monitoring to see what happens next and hoping for the support that this sim deserves.


I can tell you that I am highly concerned about Ubisoft as the parent company at this point, they are getting the personality of the bigger companies like EA, who pay very little attention to their customers and rarely patch their games appropriately. This is the 4th release by this company in recent months that has been rushed to the shelves with so many bugs that it hindered what would have otherwise been a masterpieces.

[ftc]

Neal is right. Another patch is needed for Silent Hunt IV. I feel ripped off! This game could be a lot of fun in stead of frustration

[DarkFolle]

hey Ubi..come on, make this patch, or i'm gonna buy no more ur titles..(do u know about bit torrent don't ya?)

u truly demonstrate why ppl download pirated copies: "today is really useless buy a game, cause houses don't make support!"..do ur job guys..

[vindex]

I would only add that Ubi has great support among the modder community here. If Ubi does the basic work in making the code functional -- something that modders CANNOT do -- the modders will do incredible things to bring the game to a state of true excellence. But the game engine has to work properly for them to do so. Ubi is getting free labor and creativity here -- it just has to do its part.

[luminousbit0]

I am so far very disappointed in this game. I think the vast majority of us bought the game based on name and reputation alone. To have to received the product we were expecting is very disrespectful. I hope to see some sort improvement very soon!

[Weigh-Man]

I agree with Neal 100%, 1.3 Patch please:up:

[oilburner]

It's coming up on two months since Silent Hunter 4 was released. Two patches have brought the game up to where it is stable and most of the basic features are functional, but there are still several key aspects that need attention and it's too quiet in the Ubisoft camp. I have not heard anything about the status of a third patch, which the game needs to be considered complete. Before the dev team gets too far from the construction site, Subsim is going to mount a campaign for patch v1.3. Silent Hunter 4 is an enjoyable game but has yet to reach the point where we consider it complete. The future of the Silent Hunter franchise depends on maintaining a reputation for quality.

We call on Ubisoft to complete Silent Hunter 4. We don't expect every wish to be fulfilled, but there are several key gameplay issues that loyal players and Ubisoft customers, who bought an incomplete game, deserve to have addressed. These include:

All AI needs tweaking, too often merchant ships all come to a stop and muddle around when under attack. Destroyers guarding merchants and especially in task forces occasionally seem somewhat uninterested in firing back. The Subchaser is unable to fire its main gun at all. If you mod the Subchaser to have a second gun in a raised position where the AA gun is it will fire this gun. The Akizuki DD has a similar issue, of the four guns it has only the two guns on the raised platforms actually fire. When the boat is rammed by a destroyer (for example) the destroyer generally comes of worse and often explodes.

Units of measurement: Imperial units for ship dimensions, torpedo depth gauge, range figure in the TDC and Position Keeper, all UOM issues need to be resolved.

Campaign retirement – feature or bug? Bug. Suggestion that it should be optional.

Repetitive patrols still get assigned.

Chronometer still doesn’t work as described in the manual. “The Chronometer bug”, this needs a quick and dirty fix, just a simple speed response in the text box when the Speed button is selected in the TDC, as occurs when the player clicks the Depth Beneath Keel button. But, importantly, the player should still have the choice of manually entering his own speed estimate in the TDC.

Radar needs finishing touches. It doesn't work when heading South 90deg to 270deg. Is SD radar fixed? Does is not detect ships but will detect aircraft? Also, when SD radar fitted there is no A scope display. We need your help to demonstrate the need for patch 1.3. Join the campaign here and make yourself heard. Post here. Don't hesitate or put it off. This thread will need hundreds of names to merit any attention.

To vote, simply make a reply in this thread and add your thoughts.


Neal Stevens
Subsim

Other issues and discussion can be found in this topic. (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=531615#post531615)

Ubi (and most other game software companies) has been known for releasing buggy software and then fixing it after release. EA is the same way except half the time they never even get the fix correct. What is disturbing is that UBI appears to be following the same mantra as EA..."we will put crap on the shelves and if enough of you buy it we'll make it worth your while...if not, tough luck".

Look at the Battlefield series for EA...each successive release has been buggier than that before it and the sales have reflected this.

As the game industry constantly changes, self publishing and alternative methods of distribution are constantly popping up. In the very near future a publisher will have to bring something to the table more than just money. Ubi, what will you be bringing???

[Tieg]

I totally agree 100% with Neal's accessment. I am particularily irked by the retirement bug. I have had some kick a@# patrols and instead of getting upgrades to better boats or the desired decoration I get retired for lack of aggression. Now to make the war work...I have to remember my tonnage and the date patrol ended so that when I do get "retired" I start a new campaign.

[pdechene]

One; maybe more patches are required.

When I use the keyboard for "Periscope depth" and "crash dive" my engine telegrapth goes to "stop" and I remain on the surface.

After about a half an hour of playing, crew members begin to continously announce numbers. It continues throughout the rest of the game.

I have also had destroyers ram me. I received no damage and they sank.

I don't know if this is a bug or not; but I can't recover survivors in a lifeguard mission. I have come next to them; I have run over them going forward and backing down, but still no joy. Any advice?

Phil

[drussxx]

i am 100% behind everybody in the need for this patch to bring the game up to standard

[Ghostieguide]

Got my vote:roll:. Iv`e been holding off stating a campaign till 1.3 comes out, I`m still in training playing SH3.

[Mud]

Dev team , finish what you've started.

Mud

[DennyMala]

I fully support this initiative.
I'm not a very active member of this community, but one thing for sure I'm a very active SH player and a long term Ubisoft customer.

Ubisoft needs to regain our trust. Nothing more is needed to say.

[dfritch]

As a "lurker" who has bought just about every naval type sim since GATO, from subs to every Harpoon release to SH3 to Dangerous Waters to War in the Pacific (okay, that's not really a naval sim), please don't put us in a position where we write off an entire publisher, UBI!

[Wolfar]

100% behind everyone on this. :up:

[fremac]

I have given up on SH IV. What I hoped was going to be the ultimate, state of the art sub sim, has been nothing but a source of frustration and disappointment.

In spite of a great group of gamers and their supprt and faith in SH IV it appears UBI has left the SH IV sim diving towards crush depth. Such a shame for what could have been the best sub sim to date.

I will no longer buy Ubi products and will block their email advertisements until they produce the much needed fixes, patches and improvements. By the way a decent manual would be nice.

And seeing as SH IV deals with Pacific theater, the WW II timeline in the manual might reflect events other than those occuring in Europe. That's nit picking I suppose but it indicates the attitude of Ubi towards this sim.

Fremac

[iccalm]

I agree completely. I especially dislike forced retirement, and the weather needs to be less Atlantic, more Pacific.

[8BALL]

I have stopped playing the game simply because it needs patch 1.3.
come on UBI give us what we payed for. The BBB don't want to here
from all of us.

[Greenpencil]

We really need a new patch for SHIV... :damn: