U.S. Military ‘Power Grab’ Goes Into Effect

[Feuer Frei!]

Sub-heading:
Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances.

The manhunt for the Boston Marathon bombing suspects offered the nation a window into the stunning military-style capabilities of our local law enforcement agencies. For the past 30 years, police departments throughout the United States have benefitted from the government’s largesse in the form of military weaponry and training, incentives offered in the ongoing “War on Drugs.”

Indeed, however the so-called 'stunning' efforts were upturned or over-shadowed by the fact it wasn't the 'stunning' efforts or 'stunning' capabilities to actually find 1 of the suspects. It was a local resident who found him.
Perhaps i'm taking that comment out of context.

The lines blurred even further Monday as a new dynamic was introduced to the militarization of domestic law enforcement. By making a few subtle changes to a regulation in the U.S. Code titled “Defense Support of Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies” the military has quietly granted itself the ability to police the streets without obtaining prior local or state consent, upending a precedent that has been in place for more than two centuries.

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[Red October1984]

Not sure what to think of this.

[Cybermat47]

I can see one way this can go...

Some far-right nut comes to the (logical) conclusion that this is a prelude to the US becoming a dictatorship, so he gets his gun and shoots up a police station or something.

The event is widely publicised, spurring other right-wing nuts to shoot up something government-owned, which then sparks a rebellion. Then, either the US citizens win their pointless war, OR... the government wins, and, afraid of further rebellions, sets up even stricter laws, and America really does become a dictatorship.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

I can see one way this can go...

Some far-right nut comes to the (logical) conclusion that this is a prelude to the US becoming a dictatorship, so he gets his gun and shoots up a police station or something.

The event is widely publicised, spurring other right-wing nuts to shoot up something government-owned, which then sparks a rebellion. Then, either the US citizens win their pointless war, OR... the government wins, and, afraid of further rebellions, sets up even stricter laws, and America really does become a dictatorship.

It isn't always the far-right nuts.

You might consider me a Far-Right Nut. That's just political views. I have no intention of shooting up a Police Station. Those people are crazy and not always Conservative. The reason I believe that there are a lot of shootings lately is because the media overpublicizes them. Yes. They happen...but...the Media blows them way up and makes it a huge deal. The Media is not what it used to be. People know that if they go and shoot up a mall, the media is going to get every little detail and help that crazy person get his message out by complaining about guns and victims for months.

Like I said, I don't know what to think of this yet. Obama only supports Gun Control because it keeps the people off his case about the Economy. While we're mad at him for guns, he continues to screw us over.

[August]

This isn't a right/left issue. There will be plenty of Democrats opposing this as Republicans.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

It isn't always the far-right nuts.

Like I said, "one way this can go"...

Originally Posted by Red October1984

You might consider me a Far-Right Nut.

You don't seem to be in a hurry to join the American Nazi Party or the Kooky Klutz Klan, so I don't actually.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

You don't seem to be in a hurry to join the American Nazi Party or the Kooky Klutz Klan, so I don't actually.

Okay that's Extreme Far Right.

I'm not going anywhere near those groups in my lifetime.

[mookiemookie]

This is bad.



The Posse Comitatus act is irrelevant anymore when the Police are just as well armed and equipped as military soldiers. There's effectively no difference between them.

The Posse Comitatus act is irrelevant anymore when the Police are just as well armed and equipped as military soldiers.

Its the price which goes with an armed population.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a better gun and body armour.

[Red October1984]

Guess this is just another reason to stockpile weapons in my house for when they come and enforce Martial Law, Gun Control, etc.

Or FEMA Death Camps....

[Betonov]

We're not talking about a third world dictatorship. I doubt giving the US army any more juristiction will cause a colapse of freedom.

[Ducimus]

Reading this thread, I can't help but remember that one of the local colleges in the county I live in, has the Wolverine as a mascot.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Betonov

We're not talking about a third world dictatorship. I doubt giving the US army any more juristiction will cause a colapse of freedom.

This. I just dont see it happening.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Dowly

This. I just dont see it happening.

In my opinion when a person places unquestioned faith towards their government they have made an error in judgment.

That is not to say that FEMA death camps are real mind you.I'm just saying that no government is safe from take over or fallibility.Many nations have risen and fallen over time so nothing is a guarantee.

It is an American ideal to never fully trust the government.The level of this belief does vary from region to region though.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

In my opinion when a person places unquestioned faith towards their government they have made an error in judgment.

That is not to say that FEMA death camps are real mind you.I'm just saying that no government is safe from take over or fallibility.Many nations have risen and fallen over time so nothing is a guarantee.

It is an American ideal to never fully trust the government.The level of this belief does vary from region to region though.

My trust in our government has diminished appreciably over the last 6 months, and continues to decline with each passing day.