Re dialogue with crew

rascal101 · 08-19-09, 06:14 AM

A great inovation and could be a real plus to add depth and realism, but not if every time you go past the cook he asks if you 'want some' or in the torpedo room the officer asks if you want to play - I hope the devs are aware this could really be a game maker or breaker

Just a thought

R

ReallyDedPoet · 08-19-09, 07:08 AM

Interesting comment, I was thinking the same thing. If it is not somewhat dynamic, then it could get old fairly quick.
But the concept is a neat one, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Letum · 08-19-09, 08:18 AM

Yes, any speculation at this point is on the most shaky of cgrounds.

JU_88 · 08-19-09, 08:56 AM

Well, some repetition from the AI crew speech is inevitable, no game can have an infinate amount AI dialogue, its not possible.

Yes, the cook probably will offer you to taste his cooking several thousand times, but that is just a limitation that all developers and gamers have to live with in the present.

The key here is that the Devs are giving us more of the 'human' element of being on a WW2 sub, the crews reactions and behavior adds to the immersion if they can reasonably express excitment, fear, fatique etc.

Nexus7 · 08-19-09, 09:08 AM

Intriguing feature indeed... imagine you're evading water bombs and a crew member starts screaming, or on a good torpedo hit the crew starts celebrating lol

Sledgehammer427 · 08-19-09, 02:33 PM

My guess is that they will have a few dialogues set up. for evey important crewmember
walk past the cook
"want some Kaleun?"
second time
"Afternoon Kaleun"
third
"you look awfully hungry herr kaleun"

you know? its not too much time in the studio to do 5 or 6 different introductions, a few short conversations, and a parting adknowlegement.

then, plant a "random seed" and watch the sudden and suprising differences you will find in a conversation...

then, multiply the above by about 5 or 6. never a dull moment

Safe-Keeper · 08-19-09, 06:21 PM

Actually, if the devs have voice talents, nothing's stopping them from simply adding or replacing speech lines with patches. Not that they'll keep doing that forever, but it'd be a welcome little gesture.

GreyOctober · 08-20-09, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Actually, IF the devs have voice talents, nothing's stopping them from simply adding or replacing speech lines with patches. Not that they'll keep doing that forever, but it'd be a welcome little gesture.

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Iron Budokan · 08-20-09, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

The key here is that the Devs are giving us more of the 'human' element of being on a WW2 sub, the crews reactions and behavior adds to the immersion if they can reasonably express excitment, fear, fatique etc.

I agree. It appears they've put some effort into modeling this and having this actually change the morale dynamics on the boat. Little things like that are invaluable for immersion.

Nexus7 · 08-20-09, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Iron Budokan

I agree. It appears they've put some effort into modeling this and having this actually change the morale dynamics on the boat. Little things like that are invaluable for immersion.

For sure a good magnet to suck people into the stores...

JU_88 · 08-20-09, 09:19 AM

So one minute Bernard has an Amercian Accent, then a Romanian one the Next? ARRRGGGHHH!!!

Im Kidding - it would be great if they did, but i think bug fixes will be the first priority in the patches.

Sailor Steve · 08-20-09, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427

My guess is that they will have a few dialogues set up. for evey important crewmember
walk past the cook
"want some Kaleun?"
second time
"Afternoon Kaleun"
third
"you look awfully hungry herr kaleun"

"How was the stew, Herr Kaleun?"
"Sausages for lunch today, Herr Kaleun!"

raymond6751 · 10-14-09, 06:03 AM

The dialogues have to be linked to events too. I'd hate to be silently trying to evade destroyers and hear the crew in conversation totally inappropriate to what is going on.

I would like to see, for instance, dialogue with repair party progress during damage control. The engineer can pipe up if we spend too much time at high speed. Random events / injuries can make life interesting.

The navigation officer might complain if the weather doesn't allow sightings, and the radio can give problems.

Dailly reports to the captain by department heads on the status of their men/equipment would be interesting, more frequent when damaged.

Definitely some dialogue would be restricted to times when NOT in contact with enemy units.

momo55 · 10-14-09, 06:58 AM

We (not at watch) had a 15 minutes soup break at 10:15 AM in RL

Couldn't the cook's (or others) comment be limited by a time periode too ?

10-14-09, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rascal101

A great inovation and could be a real plus to add depth and realism, but not if every time you go past the cook he asks if you 'want some' or in the torpedo room the officer asks if you want to play - I hope the devs are aware this could really be a game maker or breaker

Just a thought

R

you mean like that "yay" guy every time your torpedo hits a ship? why he's the most loved guy on our boat

08-19-09, 06:14 AM	#1
rascal101 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 769 Downloads: 200 Uploads: 0	Re dialogue with crew A great inovation and could be a real plus to add depth and realism, but not if every time you go past the cook he asks if you 'want some' or in the torpedo room the officer asks if you want to play - I hope the devs are aware this could really be a game maker or breaker Just a thought R

08-19-09, 07:08 AM	#2
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,884 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Interesting comment, I was thinking the same thing. If it is not somewhat dynamic, then it could get old fairly quick. But the concept is a neat one, I guess we'll have to wait and see. __________________ Back in the Day

08-19-09, 08:18 AM	#3
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Yes, any speculation at this point is on the most shaky of cgrounds. __________________

08-19-09, 09:08 AM	#5
Nexus7 Commander Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 469 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Intriguing feature indeed... imagine you're evading water bombs and a crew member starts screaming, or on a good torpedo hit the crew starts celebrating lol __________________ If you are going through hell... keep going (Winston Churchill)

08-19-09, 02:33 PM	#6
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	My guess is that they will have a few dialogues set up. for evey important crewmember walk past the cook "want some Kaleun?" second time "Afternoon Kaleun" third "you look awfully hungry herr kaleun" you know? its not too much time in the studio to do 5 or 6 different introductions, a few short conversations, and a parting adknowlegement. then, plant a "random seed" and watch the sudden and suprising differences you will find in a conversation... then, multiply the above by about 5 or 6. never a dull moment __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

08-19-09, 08:56 AM	#4
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Well, some repetition from the AI crew speech is inevitable, no game can have an infinate amount AI dialogue, its not possible. Yes, the cook probably will offer you to taste his cooking several thousand times, but that is just a limitation that all developers and gamers have to live with in the present. The key here is that the Devs are giving us more of the 'human' element of being on a WW2 sub, the crews reactions and behavior adds to the immersion if they can reasonably express excitment, fear, fatique etc.

08-19-09, 06:21 PM	#7
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Actually, if the devs have voice talents, nothing's stopping them from simply adding or replacing speech lines with patches. Not that they'll keep doing that forever, but it'd be a welcome little gesture. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

08-20-09, 09:19 AM	#11
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	So one minute Bernard has an Amercian Accent, then a Romanian one the Next? ARRRGGGHHH!!! Im Kidding - it would be great if they did, but i think bug fixes will be the first priority in the patches.

10-14-09, 06:03 AM	#13
raymond6751 Admirable Mike Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,338 Downloads: 421 Uploads: 0	Linkage The dialogues have to be linked to events too. I'd hate to be silently trying to evade destroyers and hear the crew in conversation totally inappropriate to what is going on. I would like to see, for instance, dialogue with repair party progress during damage control. The engineer can pipe up if we spend too much time at high speed. Random events / injuries can make life interesting. The navigation officer might complain if the weather doesn't allow sightings, and the radio can give problems. Dailly reports to the captain by department heads on the status of their men/equipment would be interesting, more frequent when damaged. Definitely some dialogue would be restricted to times when NOT in contact with enemy units. __________________ Game Designer: Close The Atlantic - World War Three https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/...orld-war-three

10-14-09, 06:58 AM	#14
momo55 Frogman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 297 Downloads: 125 Uploads: 0	We (not at watch) had a 15 minutes soup break at 10:15 AM in RL Couldn't the cook's (or others) comment be limited by a time periode too ? __________________ Our greatest glory is not in never failing , but in rising up every time we fail .