Adding life to the pacific?

USS Wasp · 07-04-08, 06:31 PM

Hey Everyone,
I'm new to the Silent Hunter 4 series and I have SH4. I've been playing it for a week and love it but am wondering if it was possible to add a little life to the waters? I don't know how flexible to the games' engine is to adding stuff but I think it would really add another dimension to have ocean life such as sharks, fish, and whales swimming around. It would add something new to help during those long patrols. Also I think it would just been neat to have and to point your hydrophone at to hear to whales speaking. Once again I'm not to sure to its feasibility but it would be neat.

-1st Lt. Brett P.

Sailor Steve · 07-04-08, 07:28 PM

Hi, and WELCOME ABOARD!

What you ask is certainly possible - much of it has already been done in SH3. However, it does take some work, and so far the main modders have been applying their skills to things they think are most important. I'm sure it will happen in time.

Monica Lewinsky · 07-04-08, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

What you ask is certainly possible - much of it has already been done in SH3. However, it does take some work, and so far the main modders have been applying their skills to things they think are most important. I'm sure it will happen in time.

My advice, give the stock game "as is" a try for a week, THEN stop. Do your research on the MODs here.

I run the following mods as a basic for my patrols -

Silent Hunter Graphics Mod 1.1
360 DBP Imperial 1.3
Captain Midnights CBS News Version 1.2
Pacific Enviroments 2
RFB [Real Fleet Boat 1.5]
Poul Sound for SH4 - VERY GOOD sound effects
V1.5 Imperial Nomograph

In regard to the "so called" gentleman in the prior post, he gives good, sound advice except for things related to coconuts.

Sailor Steve · 07-04-08, 11:25 PM

I'm glad you added the "so-called" part - for a minute there I though you were stooping to name calling.

kptn_kaiserhof · 07-04-08, 11:35 PM

are we sea captains or are we kids playing on the beach

Sailor Steve · 07-04-08, 11:46 PM

Yes.

John Channing · 07-05-08, 07:32 AM

No reason we can't be both, is there?

JCC

skwasjer · 07-05-08, 11:03 AM

Either way, both are not afraid to get their feet wet

As far as life in the sea, yes, in SH3 this is done by GWX team. I've not witnessed it myself but I've seen video's of a big whale, looked great. I'm sure in time we will see such things in SH4 as well...

74205 · 07-05-08, 11:07 AM

Well, last year i was working on a "texture" mod to add some fish to the sea, but my limited to non-knowledge in shaders make my work dificult...

I achieved a constant and directional movement (depending on camera angle), but never managed to get rid of the "transparency" issues.

Heres a screen though, about an early protoype of the mod with a random (non pacific) fish:

Sailor Steve · 07-05-08, 11:25 AM

Dang! If you had not said they were fish I would not have known. But that's not meant to be an insult - of course I'm looking at a still screenshot, not seeing them in motion.

I'd say it looks like a great start. There are whales and dolphins, but this is the first time I recall seeing a school of fish.

Video?

74205 · 07-05-08, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Dang! If you had not said they were fish I would not have known

Thats exactly the problem, they transparency makes them dificult to see...

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Video?

Sure, im out of my home now, but later i will try to recod and upload one.

Sailor Steve · 07-05-08, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 74205

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Dang! If you had not said they were fish I would not have known

Thats exactly the problem, they transparency makes them dificult to see...

Please allow me to clarify one thing: the "Dang!" was not meant to be a part of the following sentence. Once I realized they were fish, I was truly impressed. That really looks cool, and I think you should pursue it.

Hitman · 07-05-08, 01:17 PM

And if I may add, probably the only reason why Steve -same as me when I first glanced at the picture- didn't recognize the fish is because we did not expect to see them in the game. But oncce you realize what they are, they do not look bad at all

A very promising start

74205 · 07-05-08, 09:37 PM

As promised, heres the video. Now, as i said before, the last image was of a very early prototype, and one of the problems was that the fishes were dificult to see because of their transparency and they "blue color" that mixed with the bakground sea (thats why they are better seen against a "contrasting" objet, like the submarine in the image).
Though i never was able to solve the transparency, i removed most of the blue color of the fishes.

Heres a screenshot of the latest prototype, this time with common fish of the pacific (Herring):

And heres the video showing them in motion; take note that i activate time compresion in a section of the video to show the constant movement of them:

USS Wasp · 07-05-08, 10:04 PM

Those fish look great! They defiantly add something extra to the ambiance of the game.

07-04-08, 06:31 PM	#1
USS Wasp Nub Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Adding life to the pacific? Hey Everyone, I'm new to the Silent Hunter 4 series and I have SH4. I've been playing it for a week and love it but am wondering if it was possible to add a little life to the waters? I don't know how flexible to the games' engine is to adding stuff but I think it would really add another dimension to have ocean life such as sharks, fish, and whales swimming around. It would add something new to help during those long patrols. Also I think it would just been neat to have and to point your hydrophone at to hear to whales speaking. Once again I'm not to sure to its feasibility but it would be neat. -1st Lt. Brett P.

07-04-08, 07:28 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Hi, and WELCOME ABOARD! What you ask is certainly possible - much of it has already been done in SH3. However, it does take some work, and so far the main modders have been applying their skills to things they think are most important. I'm sure it will happen in time. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-04-08, 11:25 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I'm glad you added the "so-called" part - for a minute there I though you were stooping to name calling. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-04-08, 11:46 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Yes. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-05-08, 11:03 AM	#8
skwasjer The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,549 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 3	Either way, both are not afraid to get their feet wet As far as life in the sea, yes, in SH3 this is done by GWX team. I've not witnessed it myself but I've seen video's of a big whale, looked great. I'm sure in time we will see such things in SH4 as well... __________________ S3D - Silent 3ditor (v0.9.9) - S3D homepage - Open sourced S3D file parser API's - SUBSIM thread SH5 mods: Speech Recognition for SH5 \| Digital UI Clock Tutorials: [TEC] Import/export 3D models to/from game using S3D [TEC] How to work with the model viewer in S3D - VIDEO

07-04-08, 11:35 PM	#5
kptn_kaiserhof XO Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 418 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	are we sea captains or are we kids playing on the beach

07-05-08, 07:32 AM	#7
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	No reason we can't be both, is there? JCC

07-05-08, 11:07 AM	#9
74205 Watch Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mar del Plata, Argentina Posts: 16 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Well, last year i was working on a "texture" mod to add some fish to the sea, but my limited to non-knowledge in shaders make my work dificult... I achieved a constant and directional movement (depending on camera angle), but never managed to get rid of the "transparency" issues. Heres a screen though, about an early protoype of the mod with a random (non pacific) fish:

07-05-08, 11:25 AM	#10
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Dang! If you had not said they were fish I would not have known. But that's not meant to be an insult - of course I'm looking at a still screenshot, not seeing them in motion. I'd say it looks like a great start. There are whales and dolphins, but this is the first time I recall seeing a school of fish. Video? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-05-08, 01:17 PM	#13
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	And if I may add, probably the only reason why Steve -same as me when I first glanced at the picture- didn't recognize the fish is because we did not expect to see them in the game. But oncce you realize what they are, they do not look bad at all A very promising start __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

07-05-08, 09:37 PM	#14
74205 Watch Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mar del Plata, Argentina Posts: 16 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	As promised, heres the video. Now, as i said before, the last image was of a very early prototype, and one of the problems was that the fishes were dificult to see because of their transparency and they "blue color" that mixed with the bakground sea (thats why they are better seen against a "contrasting" objet, like the submarine in the image). Though i never was able to solve the transparency, i removed most of the blue color of the fishes. Heres a screenshot of the latest prototype, this time with common fish of the pacific (Herring): And heres the video showing them in motion; take note that i activate time compresion in a section of the video to show the constant movement of them:

07-05-08, 10:04 PM	#15
USS Wasp Nub Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Those fish look great! They defiantly add something extra to the ambiance of the game.