[REL] The Swell of the high seas

Captain von Keldunk · 04-13-08, 01:47 PM

Hello
This The swell of the sea mod is based on idea of using same scale wave/swell.
x=6 and z=9 for different wind speeds. When sea is calm there is some sea swell, and i hope it will make sea "alive" when there is no wind, also when there is wind sea swell is about same size but "high".
High sea swell/The swell of the high seas?? If you like to try it, enble it last with JSGME.
No permission needed, use it as you like. Made with skwas S3D.
scene dat is from SH4 1.5 but should work with 1.4 also I think, but have not tested it.
The swell of the sea V3 can be downloaded now.

M. Sarsfield · 04-13-08, 01:48 PM

Let us know if you start seeing ships suddenly catching fire and sinking.

Captain von Keldunk · 04-13-08, 02:09 PM

Hello
Sh3 or sh4 Lorient is allways the same. ships catch fire or run aground,
also if you but sub in sub pen it will end up between pens,
and you can hear terrible noise as you go past.

LORIENT.. it is love and hate.
:rotfl:

walrusbomb · 04-14-08, 04:14 PM

i'm at work, but plan on trying this when I get home. nice work!

also when there is wind sea swell is about same size but "high."

one of the biggest misconceptions on these boards is that WIND (alone) causes rough seas, big waves, or high swell. I understand, fully, that the 3D Engine is to blame for this. It uses variables called "WIND/WAVE" when determining fluid-conditions to be rendered. I can't imagine how hard it would be to program a fully realistic Sea.

In the Pacific Rim, most of the current/swell we see is (ultimately) caused by hotspots; gravitational pull a close 2nd. But now I'm just being a show-off.

Captain von Keldunk · 04-15-08, 09:06 AM

Hello walrusbomb

I think that sh4 sea state is same in harbor and ocean, so you have to keep this in mind also.
You can use your submarine to measure swell/wave lenght and height.
what you think is a good compromise of swell length and height with 0/15m wind?:hmm:

walrusbomb · 04-15-08, 10:07 AM

hard to say. but one snag, I loaded this mod after EE4.2(a) and it ruined w_clear's graphical enhancements.

bummer.

M. Sarsfield · 04-15-08, 10:18 AM

Probably overwriting the scene.dat file.

Captain von Keldunk · 04-15-08, 11:06 AM

Hello
"Probably overwriting the scene.dat file."
True it is SH4 1.5 "vanilla" scene.dat altered for sea swell.

But what do you think about the sea swell effect, The reason for this mod.:hmm:

walrusbomb · 04-15-08, 02:15 PM

swell looks very natural. good speeds. I wish I could have my cake and eat it too...

can't wait for the perfect combination of mods that really leave me satisfied with LA MER!

Captain von Keldunk · 04-17-08, 11:27 AM

Hello
The swell of the sea V2 can be downloaded now

Longer swell x= 15 z= 20 + tweaks.

Captain von Keldunk · 04-18-08, 02:21 PM

Hello
The swell of the sea V3 can be downloaded now

castorp345 · 04-18-08, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walrusbomb

I wish I could have my cake and eat it too...

here's W_clear's latest scene.dat (Environment 4.3) with Captain von Keldunk's V3 Swell of the Sea incorporated (at least the x=15 z=20 tweaks to the EnvSim\Properties\Wind\WavesProperties\ [0] to [3] scale entries... dunno about his other tweaks) ==> http://rapidshare.com/files/108588772/scene.dat.html

Captain von Keldunk, could you please detail what other modifications you've made to the scene.dat file so that we can see how they'll behave with other modded scene.dat's? many thanks!

cheers
hc

Captain von Keldunk · 04-19-08, 12:52 AM

Hello

EnvData LightColor= R:12; G:22; B: 50
DarkColor= R: 6; G: 11, B: 25
ChoppyWave=0,01 <--edited here
waves properties
[0]
WaterSpecularity Glossiness=64
BumpScale U=8 V=5 Amplitude=0,01
LargeWavesArmonics=1
LargeWavesCoef=0,1

[1] [2] [3]
WaterSpecularity Glossiness=44
BumpScale U=8 V=5 Amplitude=0,1
LargeWavesArmonics=4
LargeWavesCoef=0,7
Hope this helps.

castorp345 · 04-19-08, 07:22 AM

thanks cap'n!

i really like the work you've been doing here.
before i go hacking these into w_clear's scene.dat though i wonder if you could discuss a little the rational behind these additional tweaks?

many thanks again!

cheers
hc

Captain von Keldunk · 04-19-08, 01:17 PM

Hello
The rational behind tweaks = trial and error

I was looking for good
zero wind speed open sea look. Calm but "live".
And with version 3 I think i have it.
I hope it will give some idea or help to other modders.

04-13-08, 01:47 PM	#1
Captain von Keldunk Sonar Guy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 376 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 21	[REL] The Swell of the high seas Hello This The swell of the sea mod is based on idea of using same scale wave/swell. x=6 and z=9 for different wind speeds. When sea is calm there is some sea swell, and i hope it will make sea "alive" when there is no wind, also when there is wind sea swell is about same size but "high". High sea swell/The swell of the high seas?? If you like to try it, enble it last with JSGME. No permission needed, use it as you like. Made with skwas S3D. scene dat is from SH4 1.5 but should work with 1.4 also I think, but have not tested it. The swell of the sea V3 can be downloaded now. __________________ SH Last edited by Captain von Keldunk; 04-18-08 at 02:18 PM.

04-13-08, 01:48 PM	#2
M. Sarsfield Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,016 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Let us know if you start seeing ships suddenly catching fire and sinking. __________________ MJS USS Batfish Volunteer/Reenactor www.ss310.com www.ussbatfish.com Communism killed over 100M people and all that I got was this lousy signature.* *http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

04-13-08, 02:09 PM	#3
Captain von Keldunk Sonar Guy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 376 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 21	Lorient anything can and do happen there Hello Sh3 or sh4 Lorient is allways the same. ships catch fire or run aground, also if you but sub in sub pen it will end up between pens, and you can hear terrible noise as you go past. LORIENT.. it is love and hate. :rotfl: __________________ SH

04-15-08, 09:06 AM	#5
Captain von Keldunk Sonar Guy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 376 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 21	Sea swell size?? Hello walrusbomb I think that sh4 sea state is same in harbor and ocean, so you have to keep this in mind also. You can use your submarine to measure swell/wave lenght and height. what you think is a good compromise of swell length and height with 0/15m wind?:hmm: __________________ SH

04-15-08, 10:18 AM	#7
M. Sarsfield Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,016 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Probably overwriting the scene.dat file. __________________ MJS USS Batfish Volunteer/Reenactor www.ss310.com www.ussbatfish.com Communism killed over 100M people and all that I got was this lousy signature.* *http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

04-14-08, 04:14 PM	#4
walrusbomb Planesman Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 180 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	i'm at work, but plan on trying this when I get home. nice work! also when there is wind sea swell is about same size but "high." one of the biggest misconceptions on these boards is that WIND (alone) causes rough seas, big waves, or high swell. I understand, fully, that the 3D Engine is to blame for this. It uses variables called "WIND/WAVE" when determining fluid-conditions to be rendered. I can't imagine how hard it would be to program a fully realistic Sea. In the Pacific Rim, most of the current/swell we see is (ultimately) caused by hotspots; gravitational pull a close 2nd. But now I'm just being a show-off.

04-15-08, 10:07 AM	#6
walrusbomb Planesman Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 180 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	hard to say. but one snag, I loaded this mod after EE4.2(a) and it ruined w_clear's graphical enhancements. bummer.

04-15-08, 11:06 AM	#8
Captain von Keldunk Sonar Guy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 376 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 21	Scene.dat Hello "Probably overwriting the scene.dat file." True it is SH4 1.5 "vanilla" scene.dat altered for sea swell. But what do you think about the sea swell effect, The reason for this mod.:hmm: __________________ SH

04-15-08, 02:15 PM	#9
walrusbomb Planesman Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 180 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	swell looks very natural. good speeds. I wish I could have my cake and eat it too... can't wait for the perfect combination of mods that really leave me satisfied with LA MER!

04-17-08, 11:27 AM	#10
Captain von Keldunk Sonar Guy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 376 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 21	The swell of the sea V2 Hello The swell of the sea V2 can be downloaded now Longer swell x= 15 z= 20 + tweaks. __________________ SH

04-18-08, 02:21 PM	#11
Captain von Keldunk Sonar Guy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 376 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 21	TheSwellOfTheSeav3 is out Hello The swell of the sea V3 can be downloaded now __________________ SH

04-19-08, 12:52 AM	#13
Captain von Keldunk Sonar Guy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 376 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 21	Scene.dat "other modifications" Hello EnvData LightColor= R:12; G:22; B: 50 DarkColor= R: 6; G: 11, B: 25 ChoppyWave=0,01 <--edited here waves properties [0] WaterSpecularity Glossiness=64 BumpScale U=8 V=5 Amplitude=0,01 LargeWavesArmonics=1 LargeWavesCoef=0,1 [1] [2] [3] WaterSpecularity Glossiness=44 BumpScale U=8 V=5 Amplitude=0,1 LargeWavesArmonics=4 LargeWavesCoef=0,7 Hope this helps. __________________ SH Last edited by Captain von Keldunk; 04-19-08 at 06:20 AM.

04-19-08, 07:22 AM	#14
castorp345 Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: People's Republic of Cambridge Posts: 379 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	thanks cap'n! i really like the work you've been doing here. before i go hacking these into w_clear's scene.dat though i wonder if you could discuss a little the rational behind these additional tweaks? many thanks again! cheers hc __________________ my diminutive mod contributions new chronometer thermalizer Japanese wartime radio pack Japanese traditional radio pack new radio new ordnance what color is your torped o aye, sir! sound mod

04-19-08, 01:17 PM	#15
Captain von Keldunk Sonar Guy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 376 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 21	The rational behind tweaks Hello The rational behind tweaks = trial and error I was looking for good zero wind speed open sea look. Calm but "live". And with version 3 I think i have it. I hope it will give some idea or help to other modders. __________________ SH