SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > Silent Hunter 3 - 4 - 5 > Silent Hunter III
Forget password? Reset here

View Poll Results: Wehrmacht is ?
Ground Forces 7 31.82%
Luftwaffe, Heer and Kriegsmarine 15 68.18%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-26-07, 05:12 PM   #1
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: in my sub
Posts: 2,741
Downloads: 47
Uploads: 0
Default which was right ?

my first poll.
anyways, wich one you think is correct ?
__________________
Gruß

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-07, 05:14 PM   #2
Kodaita
A-ganger
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 76
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

This is what wikipedia says.

Wehrmacht (listen) (help·info) ("armed forces", literally "defence force") was the name of the unified armed forces of Germany from 1935 to 1945. The Wehrmacht consisted of the Heer (army), the Kriegsmarine (navy) and the Luftwaffe (air force). The Waffen-SS, an initially small paramilitary section of Heinrich Himmler's Allgemeine SS that grew to nearly a million strong during World War II, was not officially part of the Wehrmacht, but subject to OKW, OKH, as well as Field Command. Thus, the Waffen-SS was, de facto, a fourth branch of the Wehrmacht.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht
__________________
"Helm, bridge...what are you doing 60 degrees off course?"
"Bridge, helm...coming back from 90 degrees, sir."
Kodaita is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-07, 05:15 PM   #3
bigboywooly
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Swindon, England
Posts: 10,151
Downloads: 35
Uploads: 0
Default

The Wehrmacht consisted of the Heer (army), the Kriegsmarine (navy) and the Luftwaffe (air force).
__________________


My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41
bigboywooly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-07, 05:16 PM   #4
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: in my sub
Posts: 2,741
Downloads: 47
Uploads: 0
Default

i know that, but i got in a bad discussion with someone about it. so i want to show Wehrmacht is NOT just the ground forces (Heer)
__________________
Gruß

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-07, 05:23 PM   #5
Brag
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Docked on a Russian pond
Posts: 7,072
Downloads: 2
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
i know that, but i got in a bad discussion with someone about it. so i want to show Wehrmacht is NOT just the ground forces (Heer)
BBW just showed that.

Wehrmacht means armed might, the present day equivalent in English of armed forces.
__________________
Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away
Click here to look inside Brag's book:
Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books
Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html
For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/
Brag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-07, 05:35 PM   #6
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: in my sub
Posts: 2,741
Downloads: 47
Uploads: 0
Default

i say again, i know the Wehrmacht is all 3 (and SS)
the guy (not calling anny names out respect) keeps saying the armed forces are only ground troops.

i want to prove otherwise (thats why this poll)
__________________
Gruß

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-07, 06:09 PM   #7
bigboywooly
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Swindon, England
Posts: 10,151
Downloads: 35
Uploads: 0
Default

Well you dont need a poll to prove that

From the wiki link posted above http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht

Quote:
Before the rise of the NSDAP, the term Wehrmacht was used in a generic sense to describe armed forces of any nation, being utilized as the "home defense" version of the more general Streitmacht. For example, the term Britische Wehrmacht would identify the British armed forces. Article 47 of the Weimar Constitution of 1919 declared "Der Reichspräsident hat den Oberbefehl über die gesamte Wehrmacht des Reiches" (meaning: "The Reichspräsident holds supreme command of all armed forces of the Reich"). To make a distinction, the term Reichswehr was commonly used to identify the German armed forces.
In 1935, the Reichswehr was renamed Wehrmacht. After World War II and under the Allied occupation of Germany, the Wehrmacht was abolished. When West Germany remilitarized in 1955, its newly-created armed forces became known as the Bundeswehr ("Federal Defence Force"). East Germany's armed forces, formally established in 1956, were known as the National People's Army (Nationale Volksarmee). When East Germany (the German Democratic Republic) was incorporated into "West Germany" (the Federal Republic of Germany) in 1990, much of the Volksarmee property and some of the staff were also incorporated into the Bundeswehr.
Hence the term Wehrmacht customarily refers to Germany's armed forces during the Nazi Germany era and World War II, both in German and English. Note: It is incorrect to equate Wehrmacht with only the army (Heer). Wehrmacht vehicles used by Heer, Luftwaffe or Kriegsmarine units had license plates with WH, WL or WM.
And

Quote:
The German Heer, or army, was formed in May of 1935. It was formed after the passing of the "Law for the Reconstruction of the National Defense Forces". This law brough back into existance a free standing German army, navy and airforce, something that had been essentially banned after the end of World War I.
With the end of World War I and the signing of the Treaty of Versailles in 1919, the Weimar Republic - the successor to Imperial Germany - was allowed only a small defensive military force known as the Reichswehr. The Reichswehr's size and composition was strictly controlled by the Allies in the hope that by restricting its constitution they could prevent future German military aggression. The Reichswehr consisted of 100,000 men divided between a small standing army, the Reichsheer, and a small defensive navy, the Reichsmarine.
In 1933 the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP) came to power and the infamous Third Reich was born. Two years later in 1935 the Treaty of Versailles was renounced and the Reichswehr became the Wehrmacht. The newly formed Wehrmacht would still consist of an army and a navy - the renamed Heer and Kriegsmarine, but a new airforce was born as well - the Luftwaffe.
http://www.feldgrau.com/main1.php?ID=2
__________________


My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41
bigboywooly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-07, 06:20 PM   #8
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: in my sub
Posts: 2,741
Downloads: 47
Uploads: 0
Default

thanks BBW
now il show him this poll and prove it is wrong to call the Heer Wehrmacht
__________________
Gruß

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-07, 06:42 PM   #9
GoldenRivet
Subsim Aviator
 
GoldenRivet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 8,722
Downloads: 146
Uploads: 0


Default

not really wrong per say...

Calling the Heer by the name "Wehrmacht" would have been much like someone today calling the United States Marine Corps the "Armed Forces" or the "military"

though their proper name is "United States Marine corps" it would not be really wrong to call the "the military".

make sense??
__________________
GoldenRivet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-07, 07:50 PM   #10
NiclDoe
Grey Wolf
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: In the Air or hiding from Black Swans
Posts: 760
Downloads: 6
Uploads: 0
Default

Im with Lasuanga.:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: No really its opion 2. its a an easy baby poll.
__________________
The Crazy Wolf
NiclDoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-07, 09:07 PM   #11
Brag
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Docked on a Russian pond
Posts: 7,072
Downloads: 2
Uploads: 0
Default

I did not vote on this poll
__________________
Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away
Click here to look inside Brag's book:
Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books
Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html
For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/
Brag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-07, 05:56 AM   #12
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: in my sub
Posts: 2,741
Downloads: 47
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenRivet
Calling the Heer by the name "Wehrmacht" would have been much like someone today calling the United States Marine Corps the "Armed Forces" or the "military"

though their proper name is "United States Marine corps" it would not be really wrong to call the "the military".
in the time of WW2 the germans did not call the Heer Wehrmacht, just Heer.
the allied called them that, the ppl of today call them that, it IS wrong
__________________
Gruß

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-07, 12:41 PM   #13
Jimbuna
Chief of the Boat
 
Jimbuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 250 metres below the surface
Posts: 181,928
Downloads: 63
Uploads: 13


Default

I think when you show this thread to whoever is in discussion with you will think two things (amongst so many others)

1. Why get so many to fight your own battles
2. A big stick to crack a little egg

I DID NOT VOTE ON THIS POLL EITHER
__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!!


GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)
Jimbuna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-07, 02:06 PM   #14
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: in my sub
Posts: 2,741
Downloads: 47
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbuna

1. Why get so many to fight your own battles

I DID NOT VOTE ON THIS POLL EITHER
jim, he keeps saying "Wehrmacht is the ground forces"
and i didnt ask to vote on it either
__________________
Gruß

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-07, 02:45 PM   #15
Jimbuna
Chief of the Boat
 
Jimbuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 250 metres below the surface
Posts: 181,928
Downloads: 63
Uploads: 13


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbuna

1. Why get so many to fight your own battles

I DID NOT VOTE ON THIS POLL EITHER
jim, he keeps saying "Wehrmacht is the ground forces"
and i didnt ask to vote on it either
Quite simple resolution;

Send whoever it is a PM with suitable links for definitive reference purposes
__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!!


GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)
Jimbuna is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2024 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.