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which was right ?

my first poll.
anyways, wich one you think is correct ?

This is what wikipedia says.

Wehrmacht (listen) (help·info) ("armed forces", literally "defence force") was the name of the unified armed forces of Germany from 1935 to 1945. The Wehrmacht consisted of the Heer (army), the Kriegsmarine (navy) and the Luftwaffe (air force). The Waffen-SS, an initially small paramilitary section of Heinrich Himmler's Allgemeine SS that grew to nearly a million strong during World War II, was not officially part of the Wehrmacht, but subject to OKW, OKH, as well as Field Command. Thus, the Waffen-SS was, de facto, a fourth branch of the Wehrmacht.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht

The Wehrmacht consisted of the Heer (army), the Kriegsmarine (navy) and the Luftwaffe (air force).

i know that, but i got in a bad discussion with someone about it. so i want to show Wehrmacht is NOT just the ground forces (Heer)

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Originally Posted by Kaleu. Jochen Mohr

i know that, but i got in a bad discussion with someone about it. so i want to show Wehrmacht is NOT just the ground forces (Heer)

BBW just showed that.

Wehrmacht means armed might, the present day equivalent in English of armed forces.

i say again, i know the Wehrmacht is all 3 (and SS)
the guy (not calling anny names out respect) keeps saying the armed forces are only ground troops.

i want to prove otherwise (thats why this poll) :yep:

Well you dont need a poll to prove that

From the wiki link posted above http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht

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Before the rise of the NSDAP, the term Wehrmacht was used in a generic sense to describe armed forces of any nation, being utilized as the "home defense" version of the more general Streitmacht. For example, the term Britische Wehrmacht would identify the British armed forces. Article 47 of the Weimar Constitution of 1919 declared "Der Reichspräsident hat den Oberbefehl über die gesamte Wehrmacht des Reiches" (meaning: "The Reichspräsident holds supreme command of all armed forces of the Reich"). To make a distinction, the term Reichswehr was commonly used to identify the German armed forces.
In 1935, the Reichswehr was renamed Wehrmacht. After World War II and under the Allied occupation of Germany, the Wehrmacht was abolished. When West Germany remilitarized in 1955, its newly-created armed forces became known as the Bundeswehr ("Federal Defence Force"). East Germany's armed forces, formally established in 1956, were known as the National People's Army (Nationale Volksarmee). When East Germany (the German Democratic Republic) was incorporated into "West Germany" (the Federal Republic of Germany) in 1990, much of the Volksarmee property and some of the staff were also incorporated into the Bundeswehr.
Hence the term Wehrmacht customarily refers to Germany's armed forces during the Nazi Germany era and World War II, both in German and English. Note: It is incorrect to equate Wehrmacht with only the army (Heer). Wehrmacht vehicles used by Heer, Luftwaffe or Kriegsmarine units had license plates with WH, WL or WM.

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The German Heer, or army, was formed in May of 1935. It was formed after the passing of the "Law for the Reconstruction of the National Defense Forces". This law brough back into existance a free standing German army, navy and airforce, something that had been essentially banned after the end of World War I.
With the end of World War I and the signing of the Treaty of Versailles in 1919, the Weimar Republic - the successor to Imperial Germany - was allowed only a small defensive military force known as the Reichswehr. The Reichswehr's size and composition was strictly controlled by the Allies in the hope that by restricting its constitution they could prevent future German military aggression. The Reichswehr consisted of 100,000 men divided between a small standing army, the Reichsheer, and a small defensive navy, the Reichsmarine.
In 1933 the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP) came to power and the infamous Third Reich was born. Two years later in 1935 the Treaty of Versailles was renounced and the Reichswehr became the Wehrmacht. The newly formed Wehrmacht would still consist of an army and a navy - the renamed Heer and Kriegsmarine, but a new airforce was born as well - the Luftwaffe.

http://www.feldgrau.com/main1.php?ID=2

thanks BBW :up:
now il show him this poll and prove it is wrong to call the Heer Wehrmacht :yep:

not really wrong per say...

Calling the Heer by the name "Wehrmacht" would have been much like someone today calling the United States Marine Corps the "Armed Forces" or the "military"

though their proper name is "United States Marine corps" it would not be really wrong to call the "the military".

make sense??

Im with Lasuanga.:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: No really its opion 2. its a an easy baby poll.

I did not vote on this poll :smug:

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Calling the Heer by the name "Wehrmacht" would have been much like someone today calling the United States Marine Corps the "Armed Forces" or the "military"

though their proper name is "United States Marine corps" it would not be really wrong to call the "the military".

in the time of WW2 the germans did not call the Heer Wehrmacht, just Heer.
the allied called them that, the ppl of today call them that, it IS wrong :yep:

I think when you show this thread to whoever is in discussion with you will think two things (amongst so many others)

1. Why get so many to fight your own battles
2. A big stick to crack a little egg

I DID NOT VOTE ON THIS POLL EITHER :nope:

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

1. Why get so many to fight your own battles

I DID NOT VOTE ON THIS POLL EITHER :nope:

jim, he keeps saying "Wehrmacht is the ground forces"
and i didnt ask to vote on it either :yep:

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Originally Posted by Kaleu. Jochen Mohr

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

1. Why get so many to fight your own battles

I DID NOT VOTE ON THIS POLL EITHER :nope:

jim, he keeps saying "Wehrmacht is the ground forces"
and i didnt ask to vote on it either :yep:

Quite simple resolution;

Send whoever it is a PM with suitable links for definitive reference purposes :yep: