Chess experts, how do I finish this game?

TteFAboB · 10-22-07, 10:52 AM

It's endless. My friend and I just keep dancing around the board, unable to pin the black king or get it to eat the white pieces. What blatantly obvious finishing set of moves are we failing to see?

Hakahura · 10-22-07, 11:12 AM

I disagree.....

STEED · 10-22-07, 11:16 AM

Not easy to pull off and any how only a fool will not see they are beaten.

SUBMAN1 · 10-22-07, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Not easy to pull off and any how only a fool will not see they are beaten.

Nope - Only a fool would think they are beaten. This could easily end in a draw. WHen it gets down to King only, the enemy has only a limited number of moves to finish you off until it would be called a draw.

-S

PS THe rule - Fifty-Move Rule. If either player makes 50 consecutive moves without moving a pawn or making a capture (irreversible moves), either player may claim a draw. If neither player claims the draw, play continues (either player may still lose on time).

Draw by Repetition. If the same position occurs 3 times (not necessarily on consecutive moves) with the same player to move, either player may point this out and claim a draw. If neither player claims the draw, play continues (either player may still lose on time).

Stalemate. If a player has no legal moves on his/her turn, but is not in check, the game is over and the result is a draw.

Prof · 10-22-07, 11:35 AM

It's not technically a stalemate but it's going to be very difficult to force the black king into a checkmate. I'd give up and offer a draw

STEED · 10-22-07, 11:37 AM

Would you throw away the rook for a draw?

1/2 Point for a Draw
I Point your opponent resigns
2 points Checkmate

Unless the rules on points have changed that's how I remember it from a long time ago

Any how is this a timed game? A proper game or just a normal game?

Hakahura · 10-22-07, 12:07 PM

I never said it was easy.....
But it is do-able.

Worth trying.
After all if your playing white, the worst that can happen is a draw.

Hakahura · 10-22-07, 12:11 PM

Did someone remove a post?
I'm sure someone posted before my solution, that checkmate was impossible.

Hakahura · 10-22-07, 12:18 PM

Here's how to manover black into the corner.

http://www.chesskids.com/level2/cl5l7.htm

Used to play chess a lot when I was a kid, sure I remember finishing and being finished like this.

goldorak · 10-22-07, 01:22 PM

A final King + rook vs King is always a win if you play correctly.

Iceman · 10-22-07, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Draw by Repetition. If the same position occurs 3 times (not necessarily on consecutive moves) with the same player to move, either player may point this out and claim a draw. If neither player claims the draw, play continues (either player may still lose on time).

This is a good rule...

RickC Sniper · 10-22-07, 02:17 PM

Hakahura that is a good website.

This isn't a difficult ending. Drive the black king to the edge of the board and once there drive it to a corner.

Chock · 10-22-07, 03:20 PM

Here is how to win, this is the little-known T72 strategic reserve gambit:

Chock

Letum · 10-22-07, 03:30 PM

You could always try random weapon searches on the black pieces when ever they go outside.*

fatty · 10-22-07, 03:38 PM

White's next turn should be Ra5-d5 imho. Black must retreat towards the corner and you can do the closing of the prison that Hakahura's link describes. Just keep inching in your rook as long as it cannot be captured or is covered by your king.

10-22-07, 10:52 AM	#1
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Chess experts, how do I finish this game? It's endless. My friend and I just keep dancing around the board, unable to pin the black king or get it to eat the white pieces. What blatantly obvious finishing set of moves are we failing to see? __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

10-22-07, 11:12 AM	#2
Hakahura Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Posts: 785 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I disagree..... __________________ Sir Humphey Appleby, GCB, KBE, MVO and MA. Britain's Greatest Orator, well bar that Churchill fellow.

10-22-07, 11:16 AM	#3
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Not easy to pull off and any how only a fool will not see they are beaten. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

10-22-07, 11:37 AM	#6
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Would you throw away the rook for a draw? 1/2 Point for a Draw I Point your opponent resigns 2 points Checkmate Unless the rules on points have changed that's how I remember it from a long time ago Any how is this a timed game? A proper game or just a normal game? __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

10-22-07, 12:07 PM	#7
Hakahura Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Posts: 785 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I never said it was easy..... But it is do-able. Worth trying. After all if your playing white, the worst that can happen is a draw. __________________ Sir Humphey Appleby, GCB, KBE, MVO and MA. Britain's Greatest Orator, well bar that Churchill fellow.

10-22-07, 11:35 AM	#5
Prof Medic Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	It's not technically a stalemate but it's going to be very difficult to force the black king into a checkmate. I'd give up and offer a draw

10-22-07, 12:11 PM	#8
Hakahura Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Posts: 785 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Did someone remove a post? I'm sure someone posted before my solution, that checkmate was impossible. __________________ Sir Humphey Appleby, GCB, KBE, MVO and MA. Britain's Greatest Orator, well bar that Churchill fellow.

10-22-07, 12:18 PM	#9
Hakahura Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Posts: 785 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Here's how to manover black into the corner. http://www.chesskids.com/level2/cl5l7.htm Used to play chess a lot when I was a kid, sure I remember finishing and being finished like this. __________________ Sir Humphey Appleby, GCB, KBE, MVO and MA. Britain's Greatest Orator, well bar that Churchill fellow.

10-22-07, 01:22 PM	#10
goldorak Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,320 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A final King + rook vs King is always a win if you play correctly.

10-22-07, 02:17 PM	#12
RickC Sniper Undetectable Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,221 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Hakahura that is a good website. This isn't a difficult ending. Drive the black king to the edge of the board and once there drive it to a corner. __________________ Support Subsim http://www.subsim.com/store.html

10-22-07, 03:20 PM	#13
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Here is how to win, this is the little-known T72 strategic reserve gambit: Chock __________________

10-22-07, 03:30 PM	#14
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	You could always try random weapon searches on the black pieces when ever they go outside.* __________________

10-22-07, 03:38 PM	#15
fatty The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,448 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	White's next turn should be Ra5-d5 imho. Black must retreat towards the corner and you can do the closing of the prison that Hakahura's link describes. Just keep inching in your rook as long as it cannot be captured or is covered by your king.