22 Days of Rain & Fog

Brag · 02-10-07, 10:23 AM

On first patrol of new career, November 1940. U-108 (IXB). BE quadrant.

4 days out in good weather reached assigned sector, sank one small tanker. Then weather changed. Fog & rain, visibility about 300 meters.

I'm sure you have met this frustrating condition. When you see them, targets are too close. Day after day of fog in target rich area, forced me to develop (for me)a new technique

Intercepted several small freighters guided by hydrophone. Unable to see, position my boat at 300 meter + from target's plotted course. Torpedo tube ready. Periscope aiming 350 or 010, the moment blurry target appears on scope, los!

This way, accumulated 20,000 tons hardly ever seeing the target.

Last night, a task force with a number of destroyers and several capital ships approached my position at over 20 kts. Unable to see, picked a heavy capital ship sound. Aimed a magnetic salvo of four, with a two degree spread, depth 12 meters. Got one hit.

Destroyers went bananas shooting flares and swinging searchlights while large ships continued steaming. Beats me what I hit.

I'm still in the fog, will it ever end?

emtmedic005 · 02-10-07, 10:30 AM

Call up the international weather service and ask them when its going to clear out.

Morts · 02-10-07, 11:05 AM

22 days ? pff
i did a 60 day patrol and i had bad weather in 57 days

soo....you just be happy with its only 22 days (so far):p

STEED · 02-10-07, 12:09 PM

Bad weather is great get stuck in to those destroyers it's pay back time. I got two of them today and both of them won a free ticket to the bottom of the sea.

Myxale · 02-10-07, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morts

22 days ? pff
i did a 60 day patrol and i had bad weather in 57 days

soo....you just be happy with its only 22 days (so far):p

AMEN to that Morts.

I made a W@W trip to the south atlantic with my IXB and it was weather from hell!
I spent the most of the trip submerged. It was the longest W@W patrol ever!

But I'm sure there Kaleuns who had it worser!:rotfl:

Hartmann · 02-10-07, 12:49 PM

it´s because stock weather values are set to low variation.

i change these values and i rarely have more than 3 /4 days of good or bad weather

also, remember that reload a savegame put the counter to 0

U-Dog · 02-10-07, 02:37 PM

One reason I like the type IX is that it has the range to head south after I finish my assigned grid. i like to follow the convoy routes down off the coast of Spain and towards Gibralter. Weather gets better and lone ships even give me a chance to use the deck gun. Go South young man! Go South!

Lanzfeld · 02-10-07, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hartmann

it´s because stock weather values are set to low variation.

i change these values and i rarely have more than 3 /4 days of good or bad weather

also, remember that reload a savegame put the counter to 0

Please post your changes! I need to break this cycle!

Hartmann · 02-10-07, 09:14 PM

There is a program SHweather , which allow weather randomization and other things..

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=103202

but i did the changes manually.

these are the stock values of the campaign RND SCR LND layers

[Mission]
Fog=0
FogRand=0
Clouds=0
CloudsRand=0
Precip=0
PrecipRand=0
WindHeading=0
WindSpeed=5.000000
WindRand=0
WeatherRndInterval=5
SeaType=0
(You start in calm weather always)

This is the convoy academy attack weather,and i use it, curiosly almost every single mission has different weather setup and values, so you can try other if you want .

[Mission]
Fog=0
FogRand=0
Clouds=1
CloudsRand=1
Precip=0
PrecipRand=0
WindHeading=95
WindSpeed=2.000000
WindRand=1
WeatherRndInterval=2
SeaType=0

Some more information about what is every thing

*Fog=0 (0,1,2,3)
FogRand=0
*Clouds=1 (0,1,2)
CloudsRand=1
*Precip=0 (0,1,2)
PrecipRand=0
*WindHeading=95 (o to 360º)
*WindSpeed=2.000000 (0 to 15.000000 knts)
WindRand=1
WeatherRndInterval=2 (in hours, minimum 2 to 96 h)
SeaType=0

values in ( ) are different options for every thing , for example , clouds 0,1,2
none, partial, heavy

cloudsrand= no changes 0
small changes 1
heavy changes 2

precipRand = no changes 0
small changes 1
heavy changes 2

fogrand = no changes 0
small changes 1
heavy changes 2

winrand= no changes 0
small changes 1
heavy changes 2

Lanzfeld · 02-11-07, 01:23 AM

This doesnt make sense though. If you put "FogRand=0" then you will never get a fog change???

So what you are saying is that you copy the Academy convoy weather settings to those three files before you start a patrol? Could you please give a more detailed account of how you do this and the effect?

Hartmann · 02-11-07, 02:02 AM

more detailed info about this

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...hlight=FogRand

other settings from CB, perhaps better

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...+randomization

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...hlight=FogRand

Lanzfeld · 02-11-07, 11:03 AM

Hartmann,

Thank you for the info.

You suggest I change the RND, SCR, and LND files but CB's link says just change the RND file.

Do I change the one or all three?

Thanks

bigboywooly · 02-11-07, 11:15 AM

All 3 need to be the same

However remember the weather " timer "

If you have had 5 days of bad weather and you save the game
When you reload that save the weather resets to 0 - so you will have anther 5 days of bad weather
Save again and - well you get the picture

Works for the opposite too
Save in good weather and that will continue on reload

FYI the GWX files have

Year=1939
Month=1
Day=1
Hour=12
Minute=0
Fog=1
FogRand=1
Clouds=1
CloudsRand=1
Precip=1
PrecipRand=1
WindHeading=0
WindSpeed=4.000000
WindRand=1
WeatherRndInterval=6
SeaType=0

Lanzfeld · 02-11-07, 11:35 AM

Thanks BigBoyWooly,

Does that posted GWX file mean that there MAY be a weather change every 6 hours (a minor one)? Am I reading this correctly?

I was thinking of making a major (2) change every 12 hours.

GT182 · 02-11-07, 12:47 PM

At least 22 Days of Rain & Fog are better than 22 Days of Snow & Ice with -0 temps.

02-10-07, 10:23 AM	#1
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	22 Days of Rain & Fog On first patrol of new career, November 1940. U-108 (IXB). BE quadrant. 4 days out in good weather reached assigned sector, sank one small tanker. Then weather changed. Fog & rain, visibility about 300 meters. I'm sure you have met this frustrating condition. When you see them, targets are too close. Day after day of fog in target rich area, forced me to develop (for me)a new technique Intercepted several small freighters guided by hydrophone. Unable to see, position my boat at 300 meter + from target's plotted course. Torpedo tube ready. Periscope aiming 350 or 010, the moment blurry target appears on scope, los! This way, accumulated 20,000 tons hardly ever seeing the target. Last night, a task force with a number of destroyers and several capital ships approached my position at over 20 kts. Unable to see, picked a heavy capital ship sound. Aimed a magnetic salvo of four, with a two degree spread, depth 12 meters. Got one hit. Destroyers went bananas shooting flares and swinging searchlights while large ships continued steaming. Beats me what I hit. I'm still in the fog, will it ever end? __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

02-10-07, 12:09 PM	#4
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Bad weather is great get stuck in to those destroyers it's pay back time. I got two of them today and both of them won a free ticket to the bottom of the sea. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

02-10-07, 12:49 PM	#6
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	it´s because stock weather values are set to low variation. i change these values and i rarely have more than 3 /4 days of good or bad weather also, remember that reload a savegame put the counter to 0 __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

02-10-07, 09:14 PM	#9
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	There is a program SHweather , which allow weather randomization and other things.. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=103202 but i did the changes manually. these are the stock values of the campaign RND SCR LND layers [Mission] Fog=0 FogRand=0 Clouds=0 CloudsRand=0 Precip=0 PrecipRand=0 WindHeading=0 WindSpeed=5.000000 WindRand=0 WeatherRndInterval=5 SeaType=0 (You start in calm weather always) This is the convoy academy attack weather,and i use it, curiosly almost every single mission has different weather setup and values, so you can try other if you want . [Mission] Fog=0 FogRand=0 Clouds=1 CloudsRand=1 Precip=0 PrecipRand=0 WindHeading=95 WindSpeed=2.000000 WindRand=1 WeatherRndInterval=2 SeaType=0 Some more information about what is every thing Fog=0 (0,1,2,3) FogRand=0 Clouds=1 (0,1,2) CloudsRand=1 Precip=0 (0,1,2) PrecipRand=0 WindHeading=95 (o to 360º) WindSpeed=2.000000 (0 to 15.000000 knts) WindRand=1 WeatherRndInterval=2 (in hours, minimum 2 to 96 h) SeaType=0 values in ( ) are different options for every thing , for example , clouds 0,1,2 none, partial, heavy cloudsrand= no changes 0 small changes 1 heavy changes 2 precipRand = no changes 0 small changes 1 heavy changes 2 fogrand = no changes 0 small changes 1 heavy changes 2 winrand= no changes 0 small changes 1 heavy changes 2 __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor Last edited by Hartmann; 02-10-07 at 09:29 PM.*

02-11-07, 02:02 AM	#11
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	more detailed info about this http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...hlight=FogRand other settings from CB, perhaps better http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...+randomization http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...hlight=FogRand __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

02-10-07, 10:30 AM	#2
emtmedic005 Weps Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Andover, MA Posts: 361 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Call up the international weather service and ask them when its going to clear out.

02-10-07, 11:05 AM	#3
Morts Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,395 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	22 days ? pff i did a 60 day patrol and i had bad weather in 57 days soo....you just be happy with its only 22 days (so far):p

02-10-07, 02:37 PM	#7
U-Dog Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 111 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	One reason I like the type IX is that it has the range to head south after I finish my assigned grid. i like to follow the convoy routes down off the coast of Spain and towards Gibralter. Weather gets better and lone ships even give me a chance to use the deck gun. Go South young man! Go South!

02-11-07, 01:23 AM	#10
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	This doesnt make sense though. If you put "FogRand=0" then you will never get a fog change??? So what you are saying is that you copy the Academy convoy weather settings to those three files before you start a patrol? Could you please give a more detailed account of how you do this and the effect?

02-11-07, 11:03 AM	#12
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Hartmann, Thank you for the info. You suggest I change the RND, SCR, and LND files but CB's link says just change the RND file. Do I change the one or all three? Thanks

02-11-07, 11:15 AM	#13
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	All 3 need to be the same However remember the weather " timer " If you have had 5 days of bad weather and you save the game When you reload that save the weather resets to 0 - so you will have anther 5 days of bad weather Save again and - well you get the picture Works for the opposite too Save in good weather and that will continue on reload FYI the GWX files have Year=1939 Month=1 Day=1 Hour=12 Minute=0 Fog=1 FogRand=1 Clouds=1 CloudsRand=1 Precip=1 PrecipRand=1 WindHeading=0 WindSpeed=4.000000 WindRand=1 WeatherRndInterval=6 SeaType=0 __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

02-11-07, 11:35 AM	#14
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Thanks BigBoyWooly, Does that posted GWX file mean that there MAY be a weather change every 6 hours (a minor one)? Am I reading this correctly? I was thinking of making a major (2) change every 12 hours.

02-11-07, 12:47 PM	#15
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	At least 22 Days of Rain & Fog are better than 22 Days of Snow & Ice with -0 temps. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.