FX Update torpedo splash back!

[volodya61]

Okay.. here we are ..
based on test8 settings -

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[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

Unfortunately, I could not find this texture in the TDW FXU Particles.dat..

Looks like some other file uses it..

Neither can I. It is likely that this material is a leftover or, as you are suggesting, is used by some other FXU particle dat file.

Originally Posted by volodya61

Have you looked at TwirlSoftBig.tga texture? It looks good for 'water column' ..

I think my custom texture is more appropriate. I did it by merging/tweaking other stock testures

Originally Posted by volodya61

I'll test it immediately

Originally Posted by volodya61

Okay.. here we are ..
based on test8 settings -

Look much better now

What do you guys think

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

What do you guys think

They don't think.. they are just waiting ..

What do you think about improve a little other pierre texture?
And any other thoughts? What else can we edit?

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

They don't think.. they are just waiting ..

I just hope they won't start thinking (...and complaining) when we will send our update to TDW

Originally Posted by volodya61

What do you think about improve a little other pierre texture?

I like some vapour to still be there, but I can see to improved that texture anyway. Have any special idea in mind for it? I should I improve it?

Originally Posted by volodya61

And any other thoughts? What else can we edit?

Making the top end of the water column to look more pointed? Making vapourized water to fall down more slowly and to last a bit longer than the rest?

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

I just hope they won't start thinking (...and complaining) when we will send our update to TDW

Originally Posted by gap

I like some vapour to still be there, but I can see to improved that texture anyway. Have any special idea in mind for it? I should I improve it?

I think, someway like you already made for the first one

Originally Posted by gap

Making the top end of the water column to look more pointed?

Yes.. how can I make it?

Originally Posted by gap

Making vapourized water to fall down more slowly and to last a bit longer than the rest?

I think it's simple, just increase a little life time.. or?

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

I think, someway like you already made for the first one

Do you mean switching the texture from wapour to a proper water splash, or just using a better vapour texture?

Originally Posted by volodya61

Yes.. how can I make it?

I guess we can try playing with particle's size overlife settings. I am going out for dinner again, and I have no time to explain how it works, but I will later or tomorrow

Originally Posted by volodya61

I think it's simple, just increase a little life time.. or?

increase lifetime a bit, reduce intitial speed, reduce weight, maybe reduce also opacity... I have to go now. We will discuss the details later

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

Do you mean switching the texture from wapour to a proper water splash, or just using a better vapour texture?

Why not to try both ways?

Originally Posted by gap

I guess we can try playing with particle's size overlife settings...
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increase lifetime a bit, reduce intitial speed, reduce weight, maybe reduce also opacity... I have to go now. We will discuss the details later

OK, I will try to play around these parameters

See you

[Adriatico]

Hope to see new updated download at page one !

[Fifi]

Your last screens of latest test looks very nice Volodya!

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by Adriatico

Hope to see new updated download at page one !

This will be update for FX Update.. when we finish our work we will send our edited files to TDW and he will decide when update will be released

Originally Posted by Fifi

Your last screens of latest test looks very nice Volodya!

Still testing ..

[Adriatico]

Hope that TDW will clearly announce that moment...

[Delta Wolf]

Originally Posted by volodya61

Okay.. here we are ..
based on test8 settings -

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Looking really nice so far Volodya, good job

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

Why not to try both ways?

Okay, wait for my updates

Originally Posted by volodya61

OK, I will try to play around these parameters

About overlife settings. There are two types of the: OverLife is generally calculated over each particle's life (as set with Life and Life Variation parameters), whereas OverGeneratorLife uses total particle generator's life (LifeTime parameter). How they work: they are organized in an array of several entries. Each entry got two properties: LifeTime and Scale. LifeTime is an elapsed-time placer, and it is a percent of particle's of generator's total life; Scale is a multiplier, and it gets multiplied to the general property setting.

Let's make an example:

particula01 in TDW_FXU_Torp_Explosion_Materials.DAT. Its life duration is set to 4 sec (no life variation set). Size setting is 1 x (1 ± 0.5) = 0.5 to 1.5. Overlife settings are:

• [0] LifeTime 0; Scale 0 => at 0 x 4 sec = 0 sec, particle's size is 1 x (0.5 to 1.5) x 0 = 0
• [1] LifeTime 0.1; Scale 1 => at 0.1 x 4 sec = 0.4 sec, particle's size is 1 x (0.5 to 1.5) = 0.5 to 1.5
• [2] LifeTime 0.3; Scale 1.5 => at 0.3 x 4 sec = 1.2 sec, particle's size is 1.5 x (0.5 to 1.5) = 0.75 to 2.25
• [3] LifeTime 1; Scale 2.5 => at 1 x 4 sec = 4 sec, particle's size is 2.5 x (0.5 to 2.5) = 1.25 to 6.25
• [4] LifeTime 1; Scale 1 => see below
• [5] LifeTime 1; Scale 1 => see below

LifeTime settings are ordered in ascending orders from 0 to 1. Particle's size is interpolated linearly between two consecutive overlife settings. Sometimes (like in our example), after the first LifeTime = 1 OverLife entry, there are other entries ([4] and [5] in our case), but I believe tha they are ignored in game. Getting back to the torpedo splash effect, I would try the following settings (settings changed in orange):

[3] LifeTime 0.75; Scale 2.5
[4] LifeTime 1; Scale 0.5

Also, at this stage I suggest to only tweak overlife size of particles using my new water splash texture (i.e. particula01 and 03), as we can expect vapour particles to expand much more in the air.

[volodya61]

Gabriele, this is stock 'great explosion' -

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'water column' is visible on the dark background only..
I think it sucks

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

Okay, wait for my updates

OK, I'll wait

Originally Posted by gap

About overlife settings...
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Let's make an example:
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OK, now I'll try to sort out
So, should I change values ​​in the BitmapParticles of the TDW Materials.dat and not in the TDW Particles.dat? right?