FX Update torpedo splash back!

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

I think, someway like you already made for the first one

Do you mean switching the texture from wapour to a proper water splash, or just using a better vapour texture?

Originally Posted by volodya61

Yes.. how can I make it?

I guess we can try playing with particle's size overlife settings. I am going out for dinner again, and I have no time to explain how it works, but I will later or tomorrow

Originally Posted by volodya61

I think it's simple, just increase a little life time.. or?

increase lifetime a bit, reduce intitial speed, reduce weight, maybe reduce also opacity... I have to go now. We will discuss the details later

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

Do you mean switching the texture from wapour to a proper water splash, or just using a better vapour texture?

Why not to try both ways?

Originally Posted by gap

I guess we can try playing with particle's size overlife settings...
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increase lifetime a bit, reduce intitial speed, reduce weight, maybe reduce also opacity... I have to go now. We will discuss the details later

OK, I will try to play around these parameters

See you

[Adriatico]

Hope to see new updated download at page one !

[Fifi]

Your last screens of latest test looks very nice Volodya!

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by Adriatico

Hope to see new updated download at page one !

This will be update for FX Update.. when we finish our work we will send our edited files to TDW and he will decide when update will be released

Originally Posted by Fifi

Your last screens of latest test looks very nice Volodya!

Still testing ..

[Adriatico]

Hope that TDW will clearly announce that moment...

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

Why not to try both ways?

Okay, wait for my updates

Originally Posted by volodya61

OK, I will try to play around these parameters

About overlife settings. There are two types of the: OverLife is generally calculated over each particle's life (as set with Life and Life Variation parameters), whereas OverGeneratorLife uses total particle generator's life (LifeTime parameter). How they work: they are organized in an array of several entries. Each entry got two properties: LifeTime and Scale. LifeTime is an elapsed-time placer, and it is a percent of particle's of generator's total life; Scale is a multiplier, and it gets multiplied to the general property setting.

Let's make an example:

particula01 in TDW_FXU_Torp_Explosion_Materials.DAT. Its life duration is set to 4 sec (no life variation set). Size setting is 1 x (1 ± 0.5) = 0.5 to 1.5. Overlife settings are:

• [0] LifeTime 0; Scale 0 => at 0 x 4 sec = 0 sec, particle's size is 1 x (0.5 to 1.5) x 0 = 0
• [1] LifeTime 0.1; Scale 1 => at 0.1 x 4 sec = 0.4 sec, particle's size is 1 x (0.5 to 1.5) = 0.5 to 1.5
• [2] LifeTime 0.3; Scale 1.5 => at 0.3 x 4 sec = 1.2 sec, particle's size is 1.5 x (0.5 to 1.5) = 0.75 to 2.25
• [3] LifeTime 1; Scale 2.5 => at 1 x 4 sec = 4 sec, particle's size is 2.5 x (0.5 to 2.5) = 1.25 to 6.25
• [4] LifeTime 1; Scale 1 => see below
• [5] LifeTime 1; Scale 1 => see below

LifeTime settings are ordered in ascending orders from 0 to 1. Particle's size is interpolated linearly between two consecutive overlife settings. Sometimes (like in our example), after the first LifeTime = 1 OverLife entry, there are other entries ([4] and [5] in our case), but I believe tha they are ignored in game. Getting back to the torpedo splash effect, I would try the following settings (settings changed in orange):

[3] LifeTime 0.75; Scale 2.5
[4] LifeTime 1; Scale 0.5

Also, at this stage I suggest to only tweak overlife size of particles using my new water splash texture (i.e. particula01 and 03), as we can expect vapour particles to expand much more in the air.

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

Okay, wait for my updates

OK, I'll wait

Originally Posted by gap

About overlife settings...
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Let's make an example:
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OK, now I'll try to sort out
So, should I change values ​​in the BitmapParticles of the TDW Materials.dat and not in the TDW Particles.dat? right?

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

Gabriele, this is stock 'great explosion' -

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'water column' is visible on the dark background only..
I think it sucks

Yes, it does; even not being finished yet, our splash effect looks so much better!

P.S: have you noticed that smoke seems to always come out from the opposite flank than the one struck by torpedo?

Originally Posted by volodya61

OK, I'll wait

It won't take long

Originally Posted by volodya61

OK, now I'll try to sort out
So, should I change values ​​in the BitmapParticles of the TDW Materials.dat and not in the TDW Particles.dat? right?

For what I can see, the size property can be set for BitmapParticles, but not for ObjectParticles. As your preliminary tests have shown, the one BitmapParticle defined in the TorpExplosionGreat particle generator is so subtle that I wouldn't bother tweaking it. This leaves us with BitmapParticles defined in TDW Materials.dat

Any other question?

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

Yes, it does; even not being finished yet, our splash effect looks so much better!

Yep
only the views of the community isn't heard

Originally Posted by gap

P.S: have you noticed that smoke seems to always come out from the opposite flank than the one struck by torpedo?

Perhaps it due to settings of my custom mission , I'll try other mission next time..

Originally Posted by gap

Any other question?

Nope .. so far no ..

[TheDarkWraith]

Once an OverLife time parameter reaches 1 all further entries are ignored Majority of the OverLife properties are in regards to the particle's life, not the generators life

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

About overlife settings.
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[3] LifeTime 0.75; Scale 2.5
[4] LifeTime 1; Scale 0.5
Also, at this stage I suggest to only tweak overlife size of particles using my new water splash texture (i.e. particula01 and 03), as we can expect vapour particles to expand much more in the air.

test series with suggested settings

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