Changing the height of men....anyone know how? - Page 2

Anvart · 09-06-11, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by privateer

We covered many of the details in this thread Guys.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=176928

Nothing new...

Wolfstriked · 09-06-11, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Anvart

It's very simple... theoretically.
Use S3D, extract character MeshAnimation as a sequence of poses (meshes)... then in 3ds Max reduce (rescale) this mesh sequence and then import rescaled sequence into MeshAnimation using S3D...

Is the laughing indicated its not easy??

Anvart · 09-06-11, 01:15 PM

No it's easy ... just need to make a ton of work.

Wolfstriked · 09-06-11, 01:49 PM

Anvart...

3D is like voodoo to me so alas.

skwasjer · 09-06-11, 07:21 PM

I can do it with calc.exe!

Anvart · 09-07-11, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by skwasjer

I can do it with calc.exe!

Yes, of course

... but which method would be faster...

Hitman · 09-07-11, 08:29 AM

The "Superturms" mod from Aces was already doing more or less what you want by rescalling the conning tower to make the man appear proportionally taller.

09-07-11, 05:53 PM

Exactly.
It's a far, FAR, easier job to rescale other stuff.

Wolfstriked · 09-08-11, 02:17 PM

Anvart,riddle me this.....I have done some tweaks and managed to get the mech_pendulum working in my sub interior for the helmsman view.What I would like to know is this,if I do finally get the boat to also show the dive angle....can I control the pivot point in each camera and can I control the amount of angle like in the mech_pendulum?

And about Aces work....no knocking but its done wrong.The first thing is the turm is way too big on the IX family.Load up game and look at video and you will see that even on the large IX the conning tower is very narrow.In game it looks like only one man can walk past but in that video it shows a huge area on both sides of the conning tower.Also the video shows it being very cramped and the game conning towers are like sundecks.

In my game I have put the view to stand to right of the UZo and low down to simulate the view of standing on the deck(VIIb).Two issues rise...first is the men are a bit too big BUT the other issue is the ocnning tower is also too big.This makes the front of the boat seem smaller than it really would look if you were standing in a correct sized conning tower.

What this correct view gives though is alot of immersion to game that would only grow by large amount of everything was in "perfect" proportions.

Anvart · 09-08-11, 03:54 PM

You're talking about the angle of slope when submerged submarine? Search mods on this topic...

Wolfstriked · 09-08-11, 04:26 PM

Yes Anvart....trouble is this.I have moved the command room view point to below.The thing is the pivot point is near the conning tower hatch so that when sub leans you rise into ceiling or drop into ground instead.Thats one issue and the other is that I want to get a full 30deg dive angle going but then the lean will be too severe since the view just leans and in real life you will compensate by adjusting the body to keep image level as best as can.So can you move the picot point and can you adjust the amount of lean irregardless of the actual dive angle?

Here is the new view on deck of TypeVIIb.I find it really puts you on a boat....

Anvart · 09-09-11, 02:22 AM

In mods i mentioned (i'm author of the idea and implementation for Type 2 sub in stock game) for interior cameras (not for free camera) was used DIAL_TRIM controller and the angle of the extreme submerged submarine does not exceed 15 degrees ... and cameras revolve around their point of placement.

Wolfstriked · 09-09-11, 01:59 PM

Sadly Anvart my modding days for SH3 are over.I ported over my Sh3 folder to a new HD and somehow I lost all my work in the mods folder.I will take that and move on since I am not that good at it.I will however stay around and watch all the new developments that the true modders will bring to the Silent Hunter game.

postalbyke · 09-26-11, 08:18 AM

Wicked bummer, bro!
I'm about to move everything to a new computer, myself... I hope I don't lose all my private mods in the process lol

Just waiting for parts, now

You can re-make all your stuff, I'm sure! You did it once, and you had the motivation! I'm sure once you play the game again, you'll see it again

Wolfstriked · 09-26-11, 04:10 PM

Yeah man it sucks and still hurts and I am still pissed at myself for doing something so stupid like a total program move from one HD to another.

09-06-11, 01:15 PM	#18
Anvart Admiral Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Russia ® Posts: 2,492 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 1	No it's easy ... just need to make a ton of work. __________________ Alex ® Moses said: "Don't create yourself an idol"...

09-06-11, 07:21 PM	#20
skwasjer The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,549 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 3	I can do it with calc.exe! __________________ S3D - Silent 3ditor (v0.9.9) - S3D homepage - Open sourced S3D file parser API's - SUBSIM thread SH5 mods: Speech Recognition for SH5 \| Digital UI Clock Tutorials: [TEC] Import/export 3D models to/from game using S3D [TEC] How to work with the model viewer in S3D - VIDEO

09-07-11, 08:29 AM	#22
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	The "Superturms" mod from Aces was already doing more or less what you want by rescalling the conning tower to make the man appear proportionally taller. __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

09-08-11, 03:54 PM	#25
Anvart Admiral Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Russia ® Posts: 2,492 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 1	You're talking about the angle of slope when submerged submarine? Search mods on this topic... __________________ Alex ® Moses said: "Don't create yourself an idol"...

09-09-11, 02:22 AM	#27
Anvart Admiral Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Russia ® Posts: 2,492 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 1	In mods i mentioned (i'm author of the idea and implementation for Type 2 sub in stock game) for interior cameras (not for free camera) was used DIAL_TRIM controller and the angle of the extreme submerged submarine does not exceed 15 degrees ... and cameras revolve around their point of placement. __________________ Alex ® Moses said: "Don't create yourself an idol"...

09-06-11, 01:49 PM	#19
Wolfstriked Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 756 Downloads: 237 Uploads: 0	Anvart... 3D is like voodoo to me so alas.

09-07-11, 05:53 PM	#23
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Exactly. It's a far, FAR, easier job to rescale other stuff.

09-08-11, 02:17 PM	#24
Wolfstriked Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 756 Downloads: 237 Uploads: 0	Anvart,riddle me this.....I have done some tweaks and managed to get the mech_pendulum working in my sub interior for the helmsman view.What I would like to know is this,if I do finally get the boat to also show the dive angle....can I control the pivot point in each camera and can I control the amount of angle like in the mech_pendulum? And about Aces work....no knocking but its done wrong.The first thing is the turm is way too big on the IX family.Load up game and look at video and you will see that even on the large IX the conning tower is very narrow.In game it looks like only one man can walk past but in that video it shows a huge area on both sides of the conning tower.Also the video shows it being very cramped and the game conning towers are like sundecks. In my game I have put the view to stand to right of the UZo and low down to simulate the view of standing on the deck(VIIb).Two issues rise...first is the men are a bit too big BUT the other issue is the ocnning tower is also too big.This makes the front of the boat seem smaller than it really would look if you were standing in a correct sized conning tower. What this correct view gives though is alot of immersion to game that would only grow by large amount of everything was in "perfect" proportions.

09-08-11, 04:26 PM	#26
Wolfstriked Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 756 Downloads: 237 Uploads: 0	Yes Anvart....trouble is this.I have moved the command room view point to below.The thing is the pivot point is near the conning tower hatch so that when sub leans you rise into ceiling or drop into ground instead.Thats one issue and the other is that I want to get a full 30deg dive angle going but then the lean will be too severe since the view just leans and in real life you will compensate by adjusting the body to keep image level as best as can.So can you move the picot point and can you adjust the amount of lean irregardless of the actual dive angle? Here is the new view on deck of TypeVIIb.I find it really puts you on a boat....

09-09-11, 01:59 PM	#28
Wolfstriked Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 756 Downloads: 237 Uploads: 0	Sadly Anvart my modding days for SH3 are over.I ported over my Sh3 folder to a new HD and somehow I lost all my work in the mods folder.I will take that and move on since I am not that good at it.I will however stay around and watch all the new developments that the true modders will bring to the Silent Hunter game.

09-26-11, 08:18 AM	#29
postalbyke Chief Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: In the past... Posts: 321 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 1	Wicked bummer, bro! I'm about to move everything to a new computer, myself... I hope I don't lose all my private mods in the process lol Just waiting for parts, now You can re-make all your stuff, I'm sure! You did it once, and you had the motivation! I'm sure once you play the game again, you'll see it again __________________ God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh. -Voltaire

09-26-11, 04:10 PM	#30
Wolfstriked Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 756 Downloads: 237 Uploads: 0	Yeah man it sucks and still hurts and I am still pissed at myself for doing something so stupid like a total program move from one HD to another.