Arctic Sees Massive Gain in Ice Coverage - Increase twice the size of Germany

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

You are basing your ideas on the incorrect idea that old ice melts slower - that is wrong. This is a prime example on the idea that researchers have no clue whats going on.

What? No I'm not. Explain.

To say they know the climate is going to rise in temp by certain degrees over a given time - they have no way of predicting that either, especially when they have a hard time predicting weather next week.

Climate != Weather

And what of those models that determine volume? Wasn't that last months debate about how they were wrong and needed to be recalculated?

Don't know, link?

Anyway, regardless, Siberia is to blame for last years record low (Which I think the 1940's was even lower, but no one can prove that yet) for which they have been keeping track for a total of 10 years - lots of data there.

Record low in 2005, then new record low set last year - http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science...ver/index.html

[Sea Demon]

Oh God. Please don't argue this again. I don't know how anybody can still be fooled by this crap.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Oh God. Please don't argue this again. I don't know how anybody can still be fooled by this crap.

SCIENCE HAS BEEN PERVERTED BY BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT SO BOTH SIDES CAN KEEP THEMSELVES ON THE GRAVY TRAIN FOR LIFE.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by STEED

SCIENCE HAS BEEN PERVERTED BY BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT SO BOTH SIDES CAN KEEP THEMSELVES ON THE GRAVY TRAIN FOR LIFE.

Please. One side has been trying to convince us that the planet's atmosphere is being destroyed and we're all going to be fried due to increased global temperatures because we drive cars and cows fart. And as we increase this tiny amount of CO2 today, temperatures fall. Which indicates their models are flawed. And they've told us the sun has no impacts on any warming, yet sunspot activity has fallen dramatically. At the same time we're seeing temperature decreases. They still see no correllation. And further yet, people are still arguing the same screwy stuff. I've had enough.

[geetrue]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Please. One side has been trying to convince us that the planet's atmosphere is being destroyed and we're all going to be fried due to increased global temperatures because we drive cars and cows fart. And as we increase this tiny amount of CO2 today, temperatures fall. Which indicates their models are flawed. And they've told us the sun has no impacts on any warming, yet sunspot activity has fallen dramatically. At the same time we're seeing temperature decreases. They still see no correllation. And further yet, people are still arguing the same screwy stuff. I've had enough.

Did you take your meds today ...

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by geetrue

Did you take your meds today ...

Did you get your dose of DailyKos, MichaelMoore.com, and Democratic Underground today???

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Please. One side has been trying to convince us that the planet's atmosphere is being destroyed and we're all going to be fried due to increased global temperatures because we drive cars and cows fart. And as we increase this tiny amount of CO2 today, temperatures fall. Which indicates their models are flawed. And they've told us the sun has no impacts on any warming, yet sunspot activity has fallen dramatically. At the same time we're seeing temperature decreases. They still see no correllation. And further yet, people are still arguing the same screwy stuff. I've had enough.

Both sides are as bad as each other proving this and that and knocking down each others case for this and that.

My advice to both sides is this.....

GET LAID.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by STEED

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Both sides are as bad as each other proving this and that and knocking down each others case for this and that.

My advice to both sides is this.....

GET LAID.

Equivocation doesn't work in this case. One side has offered the BS man-made global warming argument using fabricated evidence, the other side has only called it the BS that it is. It will take alot more than getting laid for these people.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Equivocation doesn't work in this case. One side has offered the BS man-made global warming argument using fabricated evidence, the other side has only called it the BS that it is. It will take alot more than getting laid for these people.

Are Feck I give up. :rotfl:

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Equivocation doesn't work in this case. One side has offered the BS man-made global warming argument using fabricated evidence, the other side has only called it the BS that it is. It will take alot more than getting laid for these people.

I tend to fall on the "They haven't proven that it's man-made, or that it's anything but a natural progression" side, but I agree with Steed on this. It's like most political, or even religious arguments, in that most people supporting one side or the other "know" that they're right, and the other side is full of beans.

I believe Joseph Joubert was right: "The purpose of argument or debate should be progress, not victory." Neither side here seems to be interested in getting at the truth, only in proving that the other guy is wrong.

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by STEED

My advice to both sides is this.....

GET LAID.

I'm not on either side and I'll take that advice

[Tchocky]

Follow STEED's gravy train.

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by STEED

SCIENCE HAS BEEN PERVERTED BY BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT SO BOTH SIDES CAN KEEP THEMSELVES ON THE GRAVY TRAIN FOR LIFE.

LOL!:rotfl:

Another conspiracy? This one is even better than the evolution, creation, religion in schools, and evangelical arguments we used to have.

Where are you getting your facts, because after having to correct you on the issue of off-shore drilling in the last debate, I'm really starting to lose interest in this (same s***, different day).