Arctic Sees Massive Gain in Ice Coverage - Increase twice the size of Germany
 

Imagine that.

http://images.dailytech.com/frontpage/fp__aa_ice.jpg

-S

http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/9...idc808-807.png
A map of the sea ice increase from the same month last year

http://www.dailytech.com/Arctic+Sees...ticle12851.htm

Well, 2007 was a record low, so...

So?

-S

So a major relative gain in the past year is not indicative of a shift in climate. One would need several decades of data to make that kind of judgement. THe headline isn't saying what I imagine you want it to say.

Also, area is not as informative as area plus volume, which the Arctic is losing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7303385.stm

I saw this first, but then I thought good ole subman will see it next ...

So I let it go :cool:

Wait a minute your not talking about the 1,400 mile galcier that just fell into the ocean are you. I'll go get the article.

This thing is so big ... the glacier itself very very old.

Didn't the whole thing go crashing off at the same time and thats why it's so big?

Geetrue makes a good point, an increase in sea ice can be very bad news, as a result of events like this - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7595441.stm

You are basing your ideas on the incorrect idea that old ice melts slower - that is wrong. This is a prime example on the idea that researchers have no clue whats going on. To say they know the climate is going to rise in temp by certain degrees over a given time - they have no way of predicting that either, especially when they have a hard time predicting weather next week.

And what of those models that determine volume? Wasn't that last months debate about how they were wrong and needed to be recalculated?

Anyway, regardless, Siberia is to blame for last years record low (Which I think the 1940's was even lower, but no one can prove that yet) for which they have been keeping track for a total of 10 years - lots of data there.

There ya have it.

-S

What? No I'm not. Explain.
Climate != Weather

Don't know, link?

Record low in 2005, then new record low set last year - http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science...ver/index.html

Here it is: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7012171216

This one was only 19 square miles another one down in the Anarctic was 160 square miles earlier this year.

Please. One side has been trying to convince us that the planet's atmosphere is being destroyed and we're all going to be fried due to increased global temperatures because we drive cars and cows fart. And as we increase this tiny amount of CO2 today, temperatures fall. Which indicates their models are flawed. And they've told us the sun has no impacts on any warming, yet sunspot activity has fallen dramatically. At the same time we're seeing temperature decreases. They still see no correllation. And further yet, people are still arguing the same screwy stuff. I've had enough.

Did you take your meds today ... :lol:

Both sides are as bad as each other proving this and that and knocking down each others case for this and that.

My advice to both sides is this.....

GET LAID. :lol:

Equivocation doesn't work in this case. One side has offered the BS man-made global warming argument using fabricated evidence, the other side has only called it the BS that it is. It will take alot more than getting laid for these people.