Will gamers ever have to upgrade to Vista?

[GlobalExplorer]

Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

Celeron? Or Duocore or quadcores CPU?:hmm:

Not a fan of Celeron.

Yeah, you really need to get some new information. Maybe you should read this:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...-wolfdale.html

QUOTE: All dual-core processors from AMD are slower than the new Core 2 Duo E8000 series, which automatically ousts them from the $150+ price segment, where Intel’s dual-core solutions will now become the only player.

Maybe also surf to a big hardware reseller site (I believe in the US Newegg is pretty popular) and read the user reviews.

[geetrue]

Originally Posted by Friedmann

I've been running Vista Ultimate x64 since release and haven't had a major issue at all. In fact I really really like it All the scaremongering over Vista is made up by those afraid of change or those trying to run it on ancient machines.

I agree ... I have Vista Home Premium on a Dell lap top and a desktop PC Intell 2.1 duo core cpu, Asus P5B motherboard, Ati 2600HD heatpipe video, 2GB ram, SATA 120GB hdd ... runs great.

Plays all games great, no problems excpet it did spit at my old USB burner, but for $25 I bought one it liked.

Don't let your hatred for microsoft spoil your fun ...

for under two hundred dollars you can get Vista and a new hard drive and have fun too.

[GlobalExplorer]

Originally Posted by geetrue

Don't let your hatred for microsoft spoil your fun ...

for under two hundred dollars you can get Vista and a new hard drive and have fun too.

That's fine with me. But can you make a list of sound reasons why I should upgrade to a system that:

-costs a lot of money
-is slower without any obvious benefit
-has compatibility problems
-has a security model that causes headache to programmers and users
-has drm written all over it
-requires massive software and hardware updates if I'm a company
-has sensible features removed (e.g. many shortcut keys don't work anymore)
-requires me to find a way to disable retarded features before the work can begin
-has written "all computers should be like Macs" all over it

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Unless MS next windows is better then yes sooner of later xpgamers will have no choice but move to Vista, same back when Windows98se was the gaming platform most saw winXP as if it was the plaque. XP got slammed the same how Vista is getting slammed today. But in the end we had no choice.

Prediction: by 2011 XP wont be one of the OS's in the minimum sys specs on your new game cover...:hmm:

as i remember it, the criticism of XP compared to 98 in no way compares to what Vista is facing in criticism now. Also, while the first SP is said to have adressed some issues with Vista, I do not get the impression that Vista is regenerating and repairing as "fast" as XP did.

If 64 Bit for the usual gamer-office-user really will be a must so soon, remains to be seen. And if 64 Bit will be needed just to run Microsoft'S next crazy OS, I will boycott both as long as 32 Bit is available as a cheaper alternative. Even madness has to have limits and you do not need a Cray to run Office or Word. You even do not need it run FS. The progress cycle is accelerating on and on, and that is not good, since man has biollogical limits - as well as the content of his wallet.

More important is to get new CPUs and GPUs that do not consume power as if it is the last day of party on earth. the level of power consummation of PCs as well as internet-related installation has reached the realm of ridicule, as has the habit to let PCs run even when you sleep, as if they are a refrigerator, just to "be available". what is so wrong to switch on the system when you sit at it - and THEN check you email instead of having it stroed on your HD already? This kind of habits are stupid and headless. well, growing and even exploding energy prices in the forseeable future will have a strong educational effect, I expect.

On a different note: any news on SP3 for Windows XP? Will there be a SP3-version o0f XP inclduing it? I might be tempted to get that one, as long as the price is reasonable. Telephone-activating my old copy prooved to be a pain (the number of regular actications after many reinstalls have has been used up).

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Unless MS next windows is better then yes sooner of later xpgamers will have no choice but move to Vista, same back when Windows98se was the gaming platform most saw winXP as if it was the plaque. XP got slammed the same how Vista is getting slammed today. But in the end we had no choice.

Prediction: by 2011 XP wont be one of the OS's in the minimum sys specs on your new game cover...:hmm:

as i remember it, the criticism of XP compared to 98 in no way compares to what Vista is facing in criticism now. Also, while the first SP is said to have adressed some issues with Vista, I do not get the impression that Vista is regenerating and repairing as "fast" as XP did.

If 64 Bit for the usual gamer-office-user really will be a must so soon, remains to be seen. And if 64 Bit will be needed just to run Microsoft'S next crazy OS, I will boycott both as long as 32 Bit is available as a cheaper alternative. Even madness has to have limits and you do not need a Cray to run Office or Word. You even do not need it run FS. The progress cycle is accelerating on and on, and that is not good, since man has biollogical limits - as well as the content of his wallet.

More important is to get new CPUs and GPUs that do not consume power as if it is the last day of party on earth. the level of power consummation of PCs as well as internet-related installation has reached the realm of ridicule, as has the habit to let PCs run even when you sleep, as if they are a refrigerator, just to "be available". what is so wrong to switch on the system when you sit at it - and THEN check you email instead of having it stroed on your HD already? This kind of habits are stupid and headless. well, growing and even exploding energy prices in the forseeable future will have a strong educational effect, I expect.

On a different note: any news on SP3 for Windows XP? Will there be a SP3-version o0f XP inclduing it? I might be tempted to get that one, as long as the price is reasonable. Telephone-activating my old copy prooved to be a pain (the number of regular actications after many reinstalls has been used up).

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

MS goal is to axe xp in 2010. By then Vista should be operating perfectly with SP3.5 to the power of 100th

Xp professional has extended support until 2014, thats more than what Vista Ultimate is getting. :rotfl: How's that for an ironic situation ?
Those who have and use without problems xp are better off waiting directly for Vista's successor.

[Wolfehunter]

Originally Posted by goldorak

Xp professional has extended support until 2014, thats more than what Vista Ultimate is getting. :rotfl: How's that for an ironic situation ?
Those who have and use without problems xp are better off waiting directly for Vista's successor.

extended to 2014?:hmm: Damb that article I read was way off. I don't care anyways I use Vista and its fine I expect some hicups and thats fine too. I'm looking forward to the SP1 soon.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

The Hunter Cressall video pretty much sums it up:

THAT was good. This is worth bookmarking.

[GlobalExplorer]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

THAT was good. This is worth bookmarking.

This is actually a classic that has been around for quite a while. Every one has to see it!!