Will gamers ever have to upgrade to Vista?

GlobalExplorer · 03-11-08, 07:17 PM

Who still thinks that gamers will have to upgrade to VISTA?

I am running XP. And have no plans to upgrade whatsoever. Just what annoys me is when people still spread opinions like this:

Whether you like it or not, gamers have to upgrade to Windows Vista sooner or later to enjoy DirectX 10 titles like BioShock or Cyrsis. For this, you need a DirectX10 compliant videocard, and it doesn't hurt if it's HDCP compliant and natively supports HDMI output, Shader Model 4.0, and all manner of High Definition content.

Taken out of context from a review on PCSTATS

It seems a lot of people take for granted that history will always repeat itself. But lets face it, if VISTA happened to be not from Microsoft, it would have tanked. And as it happened to be from them, it is still alive, but it must be the least unopular os in the world.

Actually I dont like MS bashing, they released quite a few very good products ..

Wolfehunter · 03-11-08, 08:08 PM

MS goal is to axe xp in 2010. By then Vista should be operating perfectly with SP3.5 to the power of 100th

kiwi_2005 · 03-11-08, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer

Who still thinks that gamers will have to upgrade to VISTA?

Unless MS next windows is better then yes sooner of later xpgamers will have no choice but move to Vista, same back when Windows98se was the gaming platform most saw winXP as if it was the plaque. XP got slammed the same how Vista is getting slammed today. But in the end we had no choice.

Prediction: by 2011 XP wont be one of the OS's in the minimum sys specs on your new game cover...:hmm:

Letum · 03-11-08, 08:40 PM

You will need to upgrade to a 64bit OS when you want more than a few gig of ram.

Wolfehunter · 03-11-08, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

You will need to upgrade to a 64bit OS when you want more than a few gig of ram.

32bit is finished in my books. Great for writing or emails but Heavy gaming graphic..... Captain she can't handle the pressure. She going to blow.

Next system 64 bit all the way.

I'm not a fan of AMD but lately with Intels high preformance chips are 3 times more expensive than five years ago, so I'm going to break my normal comfort zone and switch..

Plain and simple your getting better bang for the buck.

TteFAboB · 03-11-08, 09:10 PM

XP is better than Win98, while Vista is not better than XP.

And one of the reasons is that many old stuff will work on XP, while nothing works on Vista, not even stuff made for XP.

Stealth Hunter · 03-11-08, 11:04 PM

Windows XP is the best all the way around, hands down. Windows 98 was a disappointment, Vista was just about eye-candy and not about functionality. XP is somewhere in between. Also, there just aren't that many games that can run on Vista without some form of tweaking required (even the games that are MEANT for Vista can require tweaking to properly run).

The OS was a disappoinment. Whatever Gates has planned next, I hope it is better than Vista, but I'm not sure. I still hate Macintosh, though... that will never change... Jobbs' machine is a hunk of junk. The Hunter Cressall video pretty much sums it up:

JSLTIGER · 03-11-08, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Windows XP is the best all the way around, hands down. Windows 98 was a disappointment, Vista was just about eye-candy and not about functionality. XP is somewhere in between. Also, there just aren't that many games that can run on Vista without some form of tweaking required (even the games that are MEANT for Vista can require tweaking to properly run).

The OS was a disappoinment. Whatever Gates has planned next, I hope it is better than Vista, but I'm not sure. I still hate Macintosh, though... that will never change... Jobbs' machine is a hunk of junk. The Hunter Cressall video pretty much sums it up:

My favorite part of the video:

I like the handle here. That's so you can attach it to a chain and use it as a BOAT ANCHOR!

Friedmann · 03-12-08, 05:26 AM

I've been running Vista Ultimate x64 since release and haven't had a major issue at all. In fact I really really like it All the scaremongering over Vista is made up by those afraid of change or those trying to run it on ancient machines.

GlobalExplorer · 03-12-08, 06:01 AM

[quote=Wolfehunter]

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Originally Posted by Letum

I'm not a fan of AMD but lately with Intels high preformance chips are 3 times more expensive than five years ago, so I'm going to break my normal comfort zone and switch..

Plain and simple your getting better bang for the buck.

I think you're information is outdated by a year or two. Today the C2 is the king. Have a look at the new Wolfdales. They're maybe the best bang for the buck you ever got.

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

I still hate Macintosh, though... that will never change... Jobbs' machine is a hunk of junk.

I don't like Macs and I usually don't even like people who like macs. But well afterall it's their decision if they prefer to spend twice.

Just compare the people who're in charge. Jobbs is known to be an arrogant s.o.b. Bill Gates is as far as I know a really nice guy.

GlobalExplorer · 03-12-08, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Letum

You will need to upgrade to a 64bit OS when you want more than a few gig of ram.

4 gb is a hard limit for 32 bit systems. Unfortunately I also keep hearing that XP by default its rather 2.75 gb.

Wolfehunter · 03-12-08, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer

I think you're information is outdated by a year or two. Today the C2 is the king. Have a look at the new Wolfdales. They're maybe the best bang for the buck you ever got.

Celeron? Or Duocore or quadcores CPU?:hmm:

Not a fan of Celeron.

JSLTIGER · 03-12-08, 10:59 AM

C2 = Core 2; C2D = Core 2 Duo (dual core); C2Q = Core 2 Quad (Quad core)

Wolfehunter · 03-12-08, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JSLTIGER

C2 = Core 2; C2D = Core 2 Duo (dual core); C2Q = Core 2 Quad (Quad core)

Thankyou

FIREWALL · 03-12-08, 11:03 AM

Just to add my 2 cts worth before I've had my morning coffee.

What OS you use or have and whether it's 32bit or 64bit has alot for some of us to do with what we use our computers for.

Me at 57yo it's strictly for gameing and surfing the net. In other words PURE Fun and Games.

(had first cup). And so far my homebilt plays the games(sims) just fine for me.

On the other side of the street others use their rig for work. And the type of work they do can have alot of impact on what OS they use and if it's 32 or 64 bit. And gameing on it is a small consideration on why it is so powerful and High End.

(second cup)

I forgot where I was headed with this. But to sum it up it's a matter of NEEDS and WANTS. IMHO.

(FINAL CUP)

Btw Good Morning to All

03-11-08, 07:17 PM	#1
GlobalExplorer Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,015 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	Will gamers ever have to upgrade to Vista? Who still thinks that gamers will have to upgrade to VISTA? I am running XP. And have no plans to upgrade whatsoever. Just what annoys me is when people still spread opinions like this: Whether you like it or not, gamers have to upgrade to Windows Vista sooner or later to enjoy DirectX 10 titles like BioShock or Cyrsis. For this, you need a DirectX10 compliant videocard, and it doesn't hurt if it's HDCP compliant and natively supports HDMI output, Shader Model 4.0, and all manner of High Definition content. Taken out of context from a review on PCSTATS It seems a lot of people take for granted that history will always repeat itself. But lets face it, if VISTA happened to be not from Microsoft, it would have tanked. And as it happened to be from them, it is still alive, but it must be the least unopular os in the world. Actually I dont like MS bashing, they released quite a few very good products .. __________________

03-11-08, 08:08 PM	#2
Wolfehunter Crusty Capt. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,752 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 25	MS goal is to axe xp in 2010. By then Vista should be operating perfectly with SP3.5 to the power of 100th __________________

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Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	You will need to upgrade to a 64bit OS when you want more than a few gig of ram. __________________

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TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	XP is better than Win98, while Vista is not better than XP. And one of the reasons is that many old stuff will work on XP, while nothing works on Vista, not even stuff made for XP. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

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03-11-08, 11:04 PM	#7
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Windows XP is the best all the way around, hands down. Windows 98 was a disappointment, Vista was just about eye-candy and not about functionality. XP is somewhere in between. Also, there just aren't that many games that can run on Vista without some form of tweaking required (even the games that are MEANT for Vista can require tweaking to properly run). The OS was a disappoinment. Whatever Gates has planned next, I hope it is better than Vista, but I'm not sure. I still hate Macintosh, though... that will never change... Jobbs' machine is a hunk of junk. The Hunter Cressall video pretty much sums it up:

03-12-08, 05:26 AM	#9
Friedmann Bosun Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Aussie in Oslo, Norway Posts: 65 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I've been running Vista Ultimate x64 since release and haven't had a major issue at all. In fact I really really like it All the scaremongering over Vista is made up by those afraid of change or those trying to run it on ancient machines.

03-12-08, 11:03 AM	#15
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Just to add my 2 cts worth before I've had my morning coffee. What OS you use or have and whether it's 32bit or 64bit has alot for some of us to do with what we use our computers for. Me at 57yo it's strictly for gameing and surfing the net. In other words PURE Fun and Games. (had first cup). And so far my homebilt plays the games(sims) just fine for me. On the other side of the street others use their rig for work. And the type of work they do can have alot of impact on what OS they use and if it's 32 or 64 bit. And gameing on it is a small consideration on why it is so powerful and High End. (second cup) I forgot where I was headed with this. But to sum it up it's a matter of NEEDS and WANTS. IMHO. (FINAL CUP) Btw Good Morning to All __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???