[WIP] Psuedo Narwhal class Fleet boat - Page 3

SteveW1 · 11-21-07, 05:55 AM

I'll give it a go for you Ducimus, do you want people just to run 1 boat or download both and just give feed back on both? either way i'll try the P-class first and see what happens.

Ducimus · 11-21-07, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by elanaiba

I think even with all the hacks I can easily remove the two extra tubes if you want me to, Ducimus

I mean they will still be there visually, just not working/available in interface.

Dan that would be awesome. I examined it, but concluded that hacking up an array, isnt within my abiltiies to do correctly with the tools that i have avaialble to me. And yes, i know this is a hack job and a half. In an ideal world id have all the nodes orignally named too, so thered be no CTD issues. I started to ATTEMPT that, but decided it was best to wait tell after patch 1.4, because it was a rather laborious and time consuming process, that, may not even work at all given that i was just renaming nodes in an existing dat file. Im quite sure theres more to it then renaming nodes.

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Originally Posted by SteveW1

I'll give it a go for you Ducimus, do you want people just to run 1 boat or download both and just give feed back on both? either way i'll try the P-class first and see what happens.

Run whichever you like. Run one, or run the other, or run one after the other, just not both at once

skwasjer · 11-21-07, 06:28 AM

If you want I can clone the sub files for you and generate new id's for each chunk. The current work-in-progress S3D has a clone function that allows me to do this basically at the press of a button. Should prevent your CTD's and allow both subs to be in the game at the same time...

elanaiba · 11-21-07, 07:10 AM

But it will probably lose all controllers (zon, sim, etc) associated with said nodes. But I can copy those too

capt_frank · 11-21-07, 08:40 AM

Yes, two deck guns do plenty damage...

ReallyDedPoet · 11-21-07, 08:51 AM

Nice cooperation\work here

RDP

elanaiba · 11-21-07, 08:56 AM

Ducimus, check email.

skwasjer · 11-21-07, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by elanaiba

But it will probably lose all controllers (zon, sim, etc) associated with said nodes. But I can copy those too

No it won't, cloning is supported accross multiple files

lurker_hlb3 · 11-21-07, 09:07 AM

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Known issues:
1.) Game crash's when selecting sargo or porpoise in the museum.
I beleive this is because the game is loading duplicate nodes. The game reads nodes, regardless of where the node is stored (in dat files). This is proably why each and every node for a submarine, is uniquely named. In normal play, since the game only loads one player useable submarine, its not an issue. However, in any scenario where the game tries to load duplicate nodes (such as the Museum), it will probably crash. I imagine, in a multiplayer game if someone runs a narwhal, and another player runs a porpoise or Sargo (depending on which version of this mod they use), the game will probably crash.

Just run the “Pack3D” program on your .dat files. Using the “clone” option and it will fix your CTD’s

http://24flotilla.gamab.net/pack3d/Pack3D.jar

Ducimus · 11-21-07, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

Just run the “Pack3D” program on your .dat files. Using the “clone” option and it will fix your CTD’s

http://24flotilla.gamab.net/pack3d/Pack3D.jar

Thanks for the suggestion Lurker, but it doesnt seem to work. I tossed this program out the window sometime after Sh4 was launched, because i coudlnt get it to work on SH4 dat files. I just tried the one in this link (thinking maybe i just hand an older version), but it's still not loading dat files for me.

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Originally Posted by skwasjer

If you want I can clone the sub files for you and generate new id's for each chunk. The current work-in-progress S3D has a clone function that allows me to do this basically at the press of a button. Should prevent your CTD's and allow both subs to be in the game at the same time...

If your work in progress version can clone it without losing all controlelrs with associated nodes, i cannot find it in myself to say no! Sure id like it if you could clone it. (edit: I'll send you the new files in a bit) When i set about doing this by hand, on each and every node, my eyes rolled into the back of my head when i relaized that id have to do this for every single file associated with the dat., and even then, most likely, id screw it up.

All modders have their limits, mine are anything associated with 3d models. The responses in this thread are proof positive that i can't do it all! (I mention this because some people think i can do it all , or think, that i think i can do it all. :rotfl

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Originally Posted by elanaiba

Ducimus, check email.

Im looking at it now, and its looking great! Thanks for the help with the tubes!

lurker_hlb3 · 11-21-07, 02:07 PM

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Thanks for the suggestion Lurker, but it doesnt seem to work. I tossed this program out the window sometime after Sh4 was launched, because i coudlnt get it to work on SH4 dat files. I just tried the one in this link (thinking maybe i just hand an older version), but it's still not loading dat files for me.

You are correct about the newer version of Pack3D, however using one of the old orginal version I got it to work. Just tested the "P" class version an it worked great. Working on the "Sargo" version now and will get back to you shortly

Ducimus · 11-21-07, 02:22 PM

>>You are correct about the newer version of Pack3D, however using one of the old orginal version I got it to work

Got a link for the older version, or was the link you gave earlier it?

>>Working on the "Sargo" version now and will get back to you shortly

There is that new sargo version in the works with only 2 tubes aft. its working great acutally, im just sitting on it tell we get the cloning situation is worked out.

Personally, i tink the sargo version behaves better in terms of physics, the Pclass.. something is a tinsy bit off, or so is my impression.

lurker_hlb3 · 11-21-07, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

>>You are correct about the newer version of Pack3D, however using one of the old orginal version I got it to work

Got a link for the older version, or was the link you gave earlier it?

>>Working on the "Sargo" version now and will get back to you shortly

There is that new sargo version in the works with only 2 tubes aft. its working great acutally, im just sitting on it tell we get the cloning situation is worked out.

Personally, i tink the sargo version behaves better in terms of physics, the Pclass.. something is a tinsy bit off, or so is my impression.

Check your PM

skwasjer · 11-21-07, 03:06 PM

I've cloned all files for you, hope it works, can't test myself atm because I still have to reinstall SH4

[edit] PS: Pack3D has a hard time reading alot of files, does it even read the sim/zon files etc? Also, because SH4 is not 100% identical to SH3 I know for a fact it can't be trusted with some files... Not to say you shouldn't try, just be warned.

Once I get S3D finished you can use it's clone function and I recommend everyone to use it over Pack3D's method...

Ducimus · 11-21-07, 03:52 PM

I just want to say thank you all for your help.
In no particualar order:

Reaves - for sparking the idea
elanaiba - for his help with the sargo varient
skwasjer - for his assistance in cloning.
lurker_hlb3 - for his assistance in cloning.

Without your guys help, this mod wouldn't have the polish on it.

If all goes well, i hope to post the release version sometime late tonight, probably midnight to 1AM, PST.

11-21-07, 05:55 AM	#31
SteveW1 Watch Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 331 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	I'll give it a go for you Ducimus, do you want people just to run 1 boat or download both and just give feed back on both? either way i'll try the P-class first and see what happens. __________________

11-21-07, 06:28 AM	#33
skwasjer The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,549 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 3	If you want I can clone the sub files for you and generate new id's for each chunk. The current work-in-progress S3D has a clone function that allows me to do this basically at the press of a button. Should prevent your CTD's and allow both subs to be in the game at the same time... __________________ S3D - Silent 3ditor (v0.9.9) - S3D homepage - Open sourced S3D file parser API's - SUBSIM thread SH5 mods: Speech Recognition for SH5 \| Digital UI Clock Tutorials: [TEC] Import/export 3D models to/from game using S3D [TEC] How to work with the model viewer in S3D - VIDEO

11-21-07, 07:10 AM	#34
elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	But it will probably lose all controllers (zon, sim, etc) associated with said nodes. But I can copy those too __________________ With strength I burn...

11-21-07, 08:51 AM	#36
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,890 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Nice cooperation\work here RDP __________________ Back in the Day

11-21-07, 08:56 AM	#37
elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	Ducimus, check email. __________________ With strength I burn...

11-21-07, 08:40 AM	#35
capt_frank Watch Officer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In the North Carolina Sticks Posts: 335 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yes, two deck guns do plenty damage...

11-21-07, 02:22 PM	#42
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	>>You are correct about the newer version of Pack3D, however using one of the old orginal version I got it to work Got a link for the older version, or was the link you gave earlier it? >>Working on the "Sargo" version now and will get back to you shortly There is that new sargo version in the works with only 2 tubes aft. its working great acutally, im just sitting on it tell we get the cloning situation is worked out. Personally, i tink the sargo version behaves better in terms of physics, the Pclass.. something is a tinsy bit off, or so is my impression.

11-21-07, 03:06 PM	#44
skwasjer The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,549 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 3	I've cloned all files for you, hope it works, can't test myself atm because I still have to reinstall SH4 [edit] PS: Pack3D has a hard time reading alot of files, does it even read the sim/zon files etc? Also, because SH4 is not 100% identical to SH3 I know for a fact it can't be trusted with some files... Not to say you shouldn't try, just be warned. Once I get S3D finished you can use it's clone function and I recommend everyone to use it over Pack3D's method... __________________ S3D - Silent 3ditor (v0.9.9) - S3D homepage - Open sourced S3D file parser API's - SUBSIM thread SH5 mods: Speech Recognition for SH5 \| Digital UI Clock Tutorials: [TEC] Import/export 3D models to/from game using S3D [TEC] How to work with the model viewer in S3D - VIDEO

11-21-07, 03:52 PM	#45
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I just want to say thank you all for your help. In no particualar order: Reaves - for sparking the idea elanaiba - for his help with the sargo varient skwasjer - for his assistance in cloning. lurker_hlb3 - for his assistance in cloning. Without your guys help, this mod wouldn't have the polish on it. If all goes well, i hope to post the release version sometime late tonight, probably midnight to 1AM, PST.