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[heartc]

Originally Posted by nvdrifter

I wasn't calling all Americans here fascist.

This is getting old. So you are saying that just about 50% of the US population are fascists because of their democratic decision that wasn't the one you would have liked to see, yes? You call people fascist?

I was referring to what the US government and a portion of the US population is becoming (this is fact).

Now, is it fascist or is it becoming fascist? Make up your mind. But in either case, it is factually wrong and you know it. Every 6 year old can see that. But you are already so distorted by Anti-American media coverage and your own commie / revisionist agenda that you don't notice it anymore.

And if anyone else didn't already notice, I did delete that previous post because I knew it might offensive to some people, but some just won't let it go.

Yeah, those bastages. Can't just go into an international forum and label half the people there fascists and they just won't let go, huh? Yeah yeah, I know, just the Bush voters are the fascists. That's what your media told you, huh? You are not fascist, of course. No.

[castorp345]

Originally Posted by nvdrifter

This really is the last time

are you sure about that??

Originally Posted by heartc

This is getting old. So you are saying that just about 50% of the US population are fascists because of their democratic decision that wasn't the one you would have liked to see, yes? You call people fascist?

Now, is it fascist or is it becoming fascist? Make up your mind. But in either case, it is factually wrong and you know it. Every 6 year old can see that. But you are already so distorted by Anti-American media coverage and your own commie / revisionist agenda that you don't notice it anymore.

Yeah, those bastages. Can't just go into an international forum and label half the people there fascists and they just won't let go, huh? Yeah yeah, I know, just the Bush voters are the fascists. That's what your media told you, huh? You are not fascist, of course. No.

This thread is getting ridiculous, really. I wish people would stop putting words in my mouth. I never said 50% of the American population is fascist. I said a portion is, whish is true in any country. I am not calling any particular American on this board a fascist. I wish people would stop twisting my words around. What is this, a witch hunt or something? Most of the Bush voters didn't know what they were getting when they were voting for him. Let's just let this go already, ok?

[castorp345]

Originally Posted by nvdrifter

This thread is getting ridiculous, really. I wish people would stop putting words in my mouth. I never said 50% of the American population is fascist. I said a portion is, whish is true in any country. I am not calling any particular American on this board a fascist. I wish people would stop twisting my words around. What is this, a witch hunt or something? Most of the Bush voters didn't know what they were getting when they were voting for him. Let's just let this go already, ok?

so, i'm confused...

is this ^^^ really the last one???

Originally Posted by Alex

IMHO, first, I just want to say that if you leave this site, we're going to lose one of our greatest modders. Respect, Mr Nvdrifter.
Also, I think if you really can't deal any more with "modder wars", you would apologize : it's the only thing you could do to avoid this war now.

Calling the US government fascist is not unimportant, you know :hmm:, especially on the SH4 forum, a game dedicated to american submariners...
I hope you're going to reconsider your decision to leave this forum, cause if you would have been american, I'm pretty sure you would have asked for apologizes too. In fact, when you see anybody coming on the SH3 forum to say "hey guys, I'm sure you're all nazis cause you have the swastika on the german flag", how do you consider this man ? :hmm:...........................
Same thing for what you told about the american government. If you still think what you told about it, then, just show us your arguments, that's what forums are for.

I think it would be better for all of us (for you cause you like this game, and for us cause we don't want to lose such a great modder ) to see your apologizes, a forum is something that has to stay constructive, and not a place to show pride.


Most respectfully yours ,



Alex

Thanks for your kind words, Alex. I am not the greatest modder, but I have tried to help the community in the ways I know how. I think you do understand me more than some of the people here who are trying to twist my words around and call me anti-American. I realize that fascist government conversations have no place on this board, that is why I deleted that statement, but others are trying to keep this alive and brand me as anti-American, which is total BS. This is turning into a witch hunt, and I want no more part of this forum. This is just another reason for me to leave here- a good example of what I have been talking about. I will still be around, just not contributing to the SH4 forum.

[fredbass]

Every time I see these kind of back and forth posts going on, it just makes everybody look bad because it's all just a bunch of immaturity. We're all human and make mistakes. It's just that some people are better at reacting to them more than others, really.

[U-Bones]

Originally Posted by nvdrifter

And if anyone else didn't already notice, I did delete that previous post because I knew it might offensive to some people, but some just won't let it go. And if you want a public apology for me calling the US government fascist, keep waiting... because you won't get one from me..

Originally Posted by nvdrifter

Thanks for your kind words, Alex. I am not the greatest modder, but I have tried to help the community in the ways I know how. I think you do understand me more than some of the people here who are trying to twist my words around and call me anti-American. I realize that fascist government conversations have no place on this board, that is why I deleted that statement, but others are trying to keep this alive and brand me as anti-American, which is total BS. This is turning into a witch hunt, and I want no more part of this forum. This is just another reason for me to leave here- a good example of what I have been talking about. I will still be around, just not contributing to the SH4 forum.

You did contribute to the community, then you split it in half with hateful comments. Gee thanks. At least you had the good sense to realize you made a mistake and delete the post. I can even respect your sticking to your position, even if it is one diametrically opposed to mine. But I think the branding was by your own words, so don't pin that on anyone but yourself.

There was no witch hunt here, unsolicited bile was spewed. Don't act suprised that people who got splashed reacted unfavorably.

Is it BS that a few people read what you said and were offended faster than you could delete ? Or was the BS what came out of you ?

[heartc]

Originally Posted by nvdrifter

So we should all bow down and admit he is right because his signature says he was a US Ranger major? Not all of us here worship fascist America.

Originally Posted by nvdrifter

I wasn't calling all Americans here fascist. I was referring to what the US government and a portion of the US population is becoming (this is fact).

Originally Posted by nvdrifter

I never said 50% of the American population is fascist. I said a portion is, whish is true in any country.

Ohhhhhhh, so that's what you meant. With that first quote, you really wanted to talk about the skinhead minorities you can find in all countries. Maybe "Weasel" would better fit you as a handle?

I am not calling any particular American on this board a fascist.

...

Most of the Bush voters didn't know what they were getting when they were voting for him.

So they are not really fascists after all. Just dumb. I see.

Originally Posted by nvdrifter

So we should all bow down and admit he is right because his signature says he was a US Ranger major? Not all of us here worship fascist America.

Originally Posted by nvdrifter

but others are trying to keep this alive and brand me as anti-American

Gotta love it.

Witch hunt? When it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
I know your ilk can get away with that **** these days most of the time, in many places. But this time you met the wrong person. And now I'll rest my case, point made.

[Alex]

@ Nvdrifter : You're welcome, mate.
I'm happy to know that you'll still be around on this site, among us.... But be sure I'll always be here wishing for your return at modding such creative things as longer repair times. :p

[joea]

Originally Posted by castorp345'

sure is interesting some people's ideas about "maturity"

Look in the mirror bub.

[Alex]

:rotfl:

[castorp345]

Originally Posted by joea

Look in the mirror bub.

thanks, joe!
i would've forgotten to shave today otherwise...
:rotfl:

[TopCat]

What a crappy thread! I really hope someone will close this as soon as possible and the best would be to completely delete it.

There is no sense in posting unrefined political offenses of any kind in such a forum.

So now all fascists are skinheads, huh? :rotfl:The ignorance and immaturity in this thread is unbelievable. I'm outta here. Take care all.

[heartc]

Originally Posted by TopCat

What a crappy thread! I really hope someone will close this as soon as possible and the best would be to completely delete it.

"Make it go away, make it go away, please! And make it it never happened!" Only works for forums, though, just as a sidenote.