Easy, Normal, Hard, Very Hard Setting - Page 3

capt_frank · 04-11-07, 03:04 PM

Doh! I found it, I've been staring at it for daze now. Right on the "Career" page when you select name, year, base, etc.

As Rosana would say "Nevermind"...

AVGWarhawk · 04-11-07, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by capt_frank

Doh! I found it, I've been staring at it for daze now. Right on the "Career" page when you select name, year, base, etc.

As Rosana would say "Nevermind"...

Turn it on and let us know what you experience with it. Getting some mixed reviews.

Teh_Diplomat · 04-11-07, 03:09 PM

The difficulty settings for Career also cause a discrepancy with your realism settings.

If you select Custom difficulty in the gameplay options screen to customize what options you want left on(Event Cam, Ext. Cam, Auto-TDC, etc) it sets those to custom; Yet when you start a career you can only choose one the pre-determined realism settings based on the difficulty.

So even though you can play at 60% realism in single missions by selecting your custom settings, your career can not have an event camera, because that is the only option disabled from the 'easy' setting(6% realism). I have yet to find a way to use your custom gameplay settings in your career. Another overlooked problem...

AVGWarhawk · 04-11-07, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Teh_Diplomat

The difficulty settings for Career also cause a discrepancy with your realism settings.

If you select Custom difficulty in the gameplay options screen to customize what options you want left on(Event Cam, Ext. Cam, Auto-TDC, etc) it sets those to custom; Yet when you start a career you can only choose one the pre-determined realism settings based on the difficulty.

So even though you can play at 60% realism in single missions by selecting your custom settings, your career can not have an event camera, because that is the only option disabled from the 'easy' setting(6% realism). I have yet to find a way to use your custom gameplay settings in your career. Another overlooked problem...

I believe you need to find the options in the office before you set sail. It is in the bookcase on the left. From here you can set what you want and it will save these settings as your career progresses.

RickC Sniper · 04-11-07, 03:39 PM

My experience is the same as Deep Six. Escorts are aggressive until you get inside their screen. They won't go around a merchant to come after you.

IMO the easy, normal, hard, etc setting at a carreer start is just a baseline for the realism options, which you can change or fine tune later anyway.

It'll be interesting to see if Neal can get the devs to respond.

Another Question I have is why a selection for how much renown you want at a carreer start? There seems to be no reason not to take all you can get. At least, no penalty for not doing so.

hmatthias · 04-11-07, 03:41 PM

The messed up campaign layer must be the cause of me seeing unescorted merchants near Australia in 1943 then. was pretty silly seeing them, and wondering what they were doing and where they were going. I hope somebody fixes the campaign layers soon.

AVGWarhawk · 04-11-07, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hmatthias

The messed up campaign layer must be the cause of me seeing unescorted merchants near Australia in 1943 then. was pretty silly seeing them, and wondering what they were doing and where they were going. I hope somebody fixes the campaign layers soon.

Once the next patch is out I suspect the modders will really start moving on new mods and fixes.

U-Bones · 04-11-07, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I believe and from what I read over at the UBI forum today, the easy, normal etc settings pertain to warship/aircraft AI and how aggressive they are. Something about 6% better sensors as well...

Interesting. Wonder how this works in non career ?

AVGWarhawk · 04-11-07, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by U-Bones

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I believe and from what I read over at the UBI forum today, the easy, normal etc settings pertain to warship/aircraft AI and how aggressive they are. Something about 6% better sensors as well...

Interesting. Wonder how this works in non career ?

I think it is in the manual also I have to recheck but I do remember see 6% on sensors somewhere

Faamecanic · 04-11-07, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Skubber

You set the difficulty level when you set up for a new career, along with start-year, renown, etc.

Seems like SH3 veterans should begin with the "hard" setting, at a minimum.

So again...the ONLY way to set this is when you set up a new career...?! This should be adjustable at any time your in port... another dumb setting restricted by menus

Well I guess I get to start over with a new career...thats OK as my current one (on patrol 12) will NOT give me any mission other than "Deploy off coast of Honshu" or "Patrol of coast of Honshu"...Im beginning to think that the war is only fought "off the coast of Honshu"

Sailor Steve · 04-11-07, 04:34 PM

Maybe they thought you would know how you wanted to play and wouldn't want to change until the next career.:rotfl:

Or maybe they didn't think.

capt_frank · 04-11-07, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

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Originally Posted by capt_frank

Doh! I found it, I've been staring at it for daze now. Right on the "Career" page when you select name, year, base, etc.

As Rosana would say "Nevermind"...

Turn it on and let us know what you experience with it. Getting some mixed reviews.

I gave it a whirl a few minutes ago. Set it to "very hard". I couldn't get into the game play option screen while in-game (the option just wasn't there) so that I could see what was or wasn't checked; however, I would say that it probably caused all the game play settings to be set to either "really freakin' hard" or "bombastically realistic". Needless to say, I had to watch my P's and Q's, no more unlimited anything, no outside views, no map contacts at all. Glad my radar man was awake!

At first blush, I liked it; however, I think I'd rather choose my settings in the game play options rather than go this way.

"...and that's all I've got to say about that..."

Frank - out.

BlackSpot · 04-11-07, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by capt_frank

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

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Originally Posted by capt_frank

Doh! I found it, I've been staring at it for daze now. Right on the "Career" page when you select name, year, base, etc.

As Rosana would say "Nevermind"...

Turn it on and let us know what you experience with it. Getting some mixed reviews.

I gave it a whirl a few minutes ago. Set it to "very hard". I couldn't get into the game play option screen while in-game (the option just wasn't there) so that I could see what was or wasn't checked; however, I would say that it probably caused all the game play settings to be set to either "really freakin' hard" or "bombastically realistic". Needless to say, I had to watch my P's and Q's, no more unlimited anything, no outside views, no map contacts at all. Glad my radar man was awake!

At first blush, I liked it; however, I think I'd rather choose my settings in the game play options rather than go this way.

"...and that's all I've got to say about that..."

Frank - out.

you CAN still change/cutomise your REALISIM settings.

NaKacu · 04-11-07, 05:10 PM

Definitely another confirmation.

First time around, tired easy then moved to hard setting. The realism is completely different from the difficulty level. Seems that lots of items get affected on the AI part. In my case I found the shocking difference in accuracy of enemy airplanes.

If you played SH3 you will be mislead thinking that realism is affected by the % settings.

Bilge_Rat · 04-11-07, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

Unfortunately the campaign layers are better FUBAR. The have merchants steamign ti Gudalcanal long after the US arrives, you can leave a friendly base to find enemy ships apparently headign for your harbor (merchants). Many of the convoys/merchant paths need to be deleted, or have start/stop dates worked on.

I believe and from what I read over at the UBI forum today, the easy, normal etc settings pertain to warship/aircraft AI and how aggressive they are. Something about 6% better sensors as well. As far as merchants going here and there at wrong dates and steaming into my port like they own it....this is probably a whole other ball game

hmmm, I am playing "very hard" and am far from home...:hmm:

Let's see if I can get back in one piece. I have been attacked by 4 airplanes so far in 20 days, crash dived each time, 2 near misses but no damage.

04-11-07, 03:39 PM	#35
RickC Sniper Undetectable Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,221 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	My experience is the same as Deep Six. Escorts are aggressive until you get inside their screen. They won't go around a merchant to come after you. IMO the easy, normal, hard, etc setting at a carreer start is just a baseline for the realism options, which you can change or fine tune later anyway. It'll be interesting to see if Neal can get the devs to respond. Another Question I have is why a selection for how much renown you want at a carreer start? There seems to be no reason not to take all you can get. At least, no penalty for not doing so. __________________ Support Subsim http://www.subsim.com/store.html

04-11-07, 04:34 PM	#41
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Maybe they thought you would know how you wanted to play and wouldn't want to change until the next career.:rotfl: Or maybe they didn't think. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-11-07, 03:04 PM	#31
capt_frank Watch Officer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In the North Carolina Sticks Posts: 335 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Doh! I found it, I've been staring at it for daze now. Right on the "Career" page when you select name, year, base, etc. As Rosana would say "Nevermind"...

04-11-07, 03:09 PM	#33
Teh_Diplomat Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Moncton, Canada Posts: 105 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The difficulty settings for Career also cause a discrepancy with your realism settings. If you select Custom difficulty in the gameplay options screen to customize what options you want left on(Event Cam, Ext. Cam, Auto-TDC, etc) it sets those to custom; Yet when you start a career you can only choose one the pre-determined realism settings based on the difficulty. So even though you can play at 60% realism in single missions by selecting your custom settings, your career can not have an event camera, because that is the only option disabled from the 'easy' setting(6% realism). I have yet to find a way to use your custom gameplay settings in your career. Another overlooked problem...

04-11-07, 03:41 PM	#36
hmatthias Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United States Posts: 82 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The messed up campaign layer must be the cause of me seeing unescorted merchants near Australia in 1943 then. was pretty silly seeing them, and wondering what they were doing and where they were going. I hope somebody fixes the campaign layers soon.

04-11-07, 05:10 PM	#44
NaKacu Nub Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Definitely another confirmation. First time around, tired easy then moved to hard setting. The realism is completely different from the difficulty level. Seems that lots of items get affected on the AI part. In my case I found the shocking difference in accuracy of enemy airplanes. If you played SH3 you will be mislead thinking that realism is affected by the % settings.