[WIP] New & realistic Liberty ship

Anvar1061 · 08-17-20, 01:37 PM

I know at least two people, who do it:

http://brat01.mybb.by/viewtopic.php?id=197&p=20#p95717

https://kendras-sh3-modding.forumgam...p-sh5-model#68

ArnoldR · 08-17-20, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvar1061

I know at least two people, who do it:

First one is the Victory ship model from Wargaming (World of Warships).

Second one : it's the forum of the original author of this ship. I'm writting for him, since his subsim account has been blocked without any reason, and his letters were never answered by the admins. I'm not stealing his work, but speaking in his name. The best proof is that the previews you can see here are different from those posted on his forum.

ArnoldR · 08-18-20, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvar1061

https://kendras-sh3-modding.forumgam...p-sh5-model#68

You gave a wrong link. That's not the model from SH5 (which is very ugly, but still far better than the SH3 model...) but a brand new model made from scratch: https://kendras-sh3-modding.forumgam...p-from-scratch

iambecomelife · 08-19-20, 09:56 PM

Good job. The proportions look correct for a ship of 400+ feet long and 7100 GRT. The Liberties were large for their time, but small compared to modern merchants.

And I like how you have the derricks all folded down. One of my HUGE pet peeves with merchant ship models in submarine games is that the derricks/cargo booms are always poking in every direction. In real life, WWII merchant ships almost kept the cargo handling gear fully up or fully down when they were at sea (to avoid damaging the gear or deck cargo). This has been confirmed by a WWII veteran convoy sailor who spoke to one of my favorite model makers.

Hopefully the final version will have some smudges of rust & oil on the hull, just so it's not too factory fresh.

ArnoldR · 08-20-20, 04:20 AM

Thank you for your comment. I like how you point out interesting details.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iambecomelife

Good job. The proportions look correct for a ship of 400+ feet long and 7100 GRT. The Liberties were large for their time, but small compared to modern merchants.

I made this model only with detailed technical plans (I even corrected some small errors on these plans...), so the ship's proportions are 100% accurate!

Quote:

Originally Posted by iambecomelife

And I like how you have the derricks all folded down. One of my HUGE pet peeves with merchant ship models in submarine games is that the derricks/cargo booms are always poking in every direction. In real life, WWII merchant ships almost kept the cargo handling gear fully up or fully down when they were at sea (to avoid damaging the gear or deck cargo). This has been confirmed by a WWII veteran convoy sailor who spoke to one of my favorite model makers.

Indeed, this is a detail that I took into account. I grabbed a lot of historical photographies of the ship, and I noticed that the booms are deployed only when the ship is docked in order to unload/load cargo. While at sea, the booms are resting down if the deck is clear, else they are in vertical position, attached to the mast in order to make space for extra cargo on the open deck. I plan to add the option to choose one of these 3 configurations.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iambecomelife

Hopefully the final version will have some smudges of rust & oil on the hull, just so it's not too factory fresh.

Yes, my screenshot is showing the model in Wings3D without any texture. I plan to create several textures with several levels of rust. I don't like clean textures. And rust on ships is in the direct spirit of SH3!!!!

But the bad point is that I'm not a texturer, and I don't think to be able to create nice textures myself...

Else, what do you think about the poly count: 66.000 triangles for now...?

stork100 · 08-20-20, 07:39 AM

Great stuff guys. ArnoldR: I think you have something special here. Wishing you all the very best for this project!

ArnoldR · 08-20-20, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapZap1970

Looks fantastic! I hope we can have this beauty soon as a mod!!! Very good work!

CapZap

Quote:

Originally Posted by stork100

Great stuff guys. ArnoldR: I think you have something special here. Wishing you all the very best for this project!

Thank you for the kind words!

VonDos · 08-20-20, 04:51 PM

Hi mate!
Really promising, waiting for the release!
Good luck with this nice project

Best regards,
Vd

08-17-20, 01:37 PM	#1
Anvar1061 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2012 Location: In the sea, on land and above Posts: 3,487 Downloads: 878 Uploads: 0	I know at least two people, who do it: http://brat01.mybb.by/viewtopic.php?id=197&p=20#p95717 https://kendras-sh3-modding.forumgam...p-sh5-model#68 __________________

08-19-20, 09:56 PM	#4
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,710 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	Good job. The proportions look correct for a ship of 400+ feet long and 7100 GRT. The Liberties were large for their time, but small compared to modern merchants. And I like how you have the derricks all folded down. One of my HUGE pet peeves with merchant ship models in submarine games is that the derricks/cargo booms are always poking in every direction. In real life, WWII merchant ships almost kept the cargo handling gear fully up or fully down when they were at sea (to avoid damaging the gear or deck cargo). This has been confirmed by a WWII veteran convoy sailor who spoke to one of my favorite model makers. Hopefully the final version will have some smudges of rust & oil on the hull, just so it's not too factory fresh. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

08-20-20, 04:51 PM	#8
VonDos Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,361 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 61	Hi mate! Really promising, waiting for the release! Good luck with this nice project Best regards, Vd __________________ Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508

08-20-20, 07:39 AM	#6
stork100 Weps Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Australia Posts: 371 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	Great stuff guys. ArnoldR: I think you have something special here. Wishing you all the very best for this project!