Are we real ? - Page 2

Jimbuna · 11-26-19, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Another aspect on this thing called reality is

our perception on reality

Markus

Perception acts as a lens through which we view reality. Our perceptions influence how we focus on, process, remember, interpret, understand, synthesize, decide about, and act on reality. In doing so, our tendency is to assume that how we perceive reality is an accurate representation of what reality truly is.

Skybird · 11-26-19, 11:25 AM

I would prefer not to call it a representation of reality, but a working model that serves our needs to be provided with a functioning habitat that allows us the illusion we can influence it, master it, and be masters of our future and fate. Because if that illusion collapses, deep existential despair and mental and emotional breakdown can be the consequence. We are not made to accept living in chaos that any second can wipe us out. But that is how the universe seems to be. The illusion of an order, a meaning, of things making sense and we being able to influence them, is vital for us, even if it is just an illusion. Accepting that nature doe snot care one bit for us, for Earth, for life, leaves us no peace of mind. We need to beleive in a higher principle. Thus, our model-forming of reality, cleverly thought out so that all parts in it work together and form a logical, functional, interacting and convincing fallacy.

Santini · 11-26-19, 11:51 AM

I accept it.

Anything else is hubris, you might as well believe in a big invisible man in the sky that shaped humanity in his image and cares about who wins the super bowl xD

mapuc · 11-26-19, 05:27 PM

Intelligent have also a lot to do with our perception of this reality.

I'm convinced it has

Markus

mapuc · 11-28-19, 02:20 PM

Talking about Quantum Mechanics and it's view on reality

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We know that our understanding of reality is pretty biased. Our senses, our cultures, and our knowledge shape how we see the world. And if you think that science will always give you objective reality, you might want to reconsider.

https://www.iflscience.com/physics/q...qPGD4WlQsyaoMU

Markus

JU_88 · 12-01-19, 05:59 AM

2 things we dont really understand, how we perceive reality and where our conciousness comes from, no wonder they are having trouble teaching that to AI.

11-26-19, 11:25 AM	#17
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,741 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I would prefer not to call it a representation of reality, but a working model that serves our needs to be provided with a functioning habitat that allows us the illusion we can influence it, master it, and be masters of our future and fate. Because if that illusion collapses, deep existential despair and mental and emotional breakdown can be the consequence. We are not made to accept living in chaos that any second can wipe us out. But that is how the universe seems to be. The illusion of an order, a meaning, of things making sense and we being able to influence them, is vital for us, even if it is just an illusion. Accepting that nature doe snot care one bit for us, for Earth, for life, leaves us no peace of mind. We need to beleive in a higher principle. Thus, our model-forming of reality, cleverly thought out so that all parts in it work together and form a logical, functional, interacting and convincing fallacy. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-26-19, 05:27 PM	#19
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,589 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Intelligent have also a lot to do with our perception of this reality. I'm convinced it has Markus Last edited by mapuc; 11-26-19 at 05:50 PM.

11-26-19, 11:51 AM	#18
Santini Medic Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 168 Downloads: 389 Uploads: 1	I accept it. Anything else is hubris, you might as well believe in a big invisible man in the sky that shaped humanity in his image and cares about who wins the super bowl xD

12-01-19, 05:59 AM	#21
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,814 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	2 things we dont really understand, how we perceive reality and where our conciousness comes from, no wonder they are having trouble teaching that to AI.