Are we real ?

mapuc · 11-24-19, 12:50 PM

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An MIT professor has said he believes it's "more likely than not" that we are living in some kind of simulated universe, given that we ourselves are not far away from being capable of creating hyper-realistic simulations ourselves.

https://www.iflscience.com/technolog...13162lBZY9eGoQ

Markus

Sailor Steve · 11-24-19, 02:36 PM

A lot of people have said that a lot of times in the past. At this point in time the real question is, how would you know? We are already trapped inside our own minds, with no way of truly understanding what others are thinking. With that in mind I don't see how it really matters.

Skybird · 11-24-19, 02:46 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-w...interpretation

http://themindunleashed.com/2015/02/...ever-will.html

The eye cannot watch itself. Zen understands this better than many academics nowadays. My question would be: what is it that thinks: "eye"? Does it start and does it end somewhere, this thing sombody (who?) names "eye"? Can "eye" and "watching" be separated? Is there this separation betwee3n subject and object, thing and process?

Maybe we should not say "we have eyes". Maybe we should say "we are the watching itself".

What is it that watches, then?

mapuc · 11-24-19, 06:54 PM

Steve are correct it have ben discussed before and if so, what can we do about it

It also made gave a little smile-´cause I was thinking.

There are people who can't stand some of our politicians and if we truly live in a simulated world, then perhaps those people may think:

Why did those programmer put those politicians into the equation

I also like Skybird's approach on this subject.

Markus

Rockstar · 11-24-19, 07:41 PM

not sure one can say the programmer placed politicians into the equation. I think what was programmed into the system is vast number of possibilities available for us to choose from (cause and effect) that can produce politicians.

The law of causation is the philosophy of science. I think you will find most major religions will agree with such philosophy too.

Each of us is responsible for the choices we make.

Aktungbby · 11-24-19, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SAILOR STEVE

With that in mind I don't see how it really matters.

PRECISELY! Each existence is a punishment for the previous existence and so it goes for all eternity. Occasionally, I've been an amoeba; which considerably reduces stress levels....

vienna · 11-25-19, 01:49 AM

Spoken like a true single cell organism...

<O>

Aktungbby · 11-25-19, 02:22 AM

^WELL OF COURSE U CAN RELATE....U WERE 'MY BETTER HALF' WHEN WE SPLIT!!

Catfish · 11-25-19, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby

PRECISELY! Each existence is a punishment for the previous existence and so it goes for all eternity. Occasionally, I've been an amoeba; which considerably reduces stress levels....

Only when you believe in Hinduism. It is of course a good regulator against people behaving too badly, when they know what's waiting for them in their next life.
Jesus, on the other hand, forgives all in evangelical belief, hell is reserved for catholics.

ikalugin · 11-25-19, 04:28 AM

Roman catholics are not quite heretics I guess.

Jimbuna · 11-25-19, 05:34 AM

There is only one true answer/explanation...

BREXIT

mapuc · 11-25-19, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

There is only one true answer/explanation...

BREXIT

Brexit !? Isn't this a part of the reality in the Quantum Mechanics ?

Markus

Santini · 11-25-19, 12:47 PM

It's all fun and games until we work out an FTL solution and they power down the simulation to trawl the logs.

mapuc · 11-25-19, 05:25 PM

Another aspect on this thing called reality is

our perception on reality

Markus

STEED · 11-25-19, 06:35 PM

This is a dream so there.

11-24-19, 02:36 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	A lot of people have said that a lot of times in the past. At this point in time the real question is, how would you know? We are already trapped inside our own minds, with no way of truly understanding what others are thinking. With that in mind I don't see how it really matters. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

11-24-19, 02:46 PM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,620 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-w...interpretation http://themindunleashed.com/2015/02/...ever-will.html The eye cannot watch itself. Zen understands this better than many academics nowadays. My question would be: what is it that thinks: "eye"? Does it start and does it end somewhere, this thing sombody (who?) names "eye"? Can "eye" and "watching" be separated? Is there this separation betwee3n subject and object, thing and process? Maybe we should not say "we have eyes". Maybe we should say "we are the watching itself". What is it that watches, then? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-24-19, 07:41 PM	#5
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	not sure one can say the programmer placed politicians into the equation. I think what was programmed into the system is vast number of possibilities available for us to choose from (cause and effect) that can produce politicians. The law of causation is the philosophy of science. I think you will find most major religions will agree with such philosophy too. Each of us is responsible for the choices we make. Last edited by Rockstar; 11-24-19 at 08:49 PM.

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vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,711 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Spoken like a true single cell organism... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

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Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,005 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	^WELL OF COURSE U CAN RELATE....U WERE 'MY BETTER HALF' WHEN WE SPLIT!! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

11-24-19, 06:54 PM	#4
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Steve are correct it have ben discussed before and if so, what can we do about it It also made gave a little smile-´cause I was thinking. There are people who can't stand some of our politicians and if we truly live in a simulated world, then perhaps those people may think: Why did those programmer put those politicians into the equation I also like Skybird's approach on this subject. Markus

11-25-19, 04:28 AM	#10
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Roman catholics are not quite heretics I guess. __________________ Grumpy as always.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	There is only one true answer/explanation... BREXIT __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

11-25-19, 12:47 PM	#13
Santini Medic Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 168 Downloads: 389 Uploads: 1	It's all fun and games until we work out an FTL solution and they power down the simulation to trawl the logs.

11-25-19, 05:25 PM	#14
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Another aspect on this thing called reality is our perception on reality Markus

11-25-19, 06:35 PM	#15
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	This is a dream so there. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!