SOS! Fustration mounting!

[merc4ulfate]

Is the graphic card set to run all GPU's? Sometimes by default the setting is using the Main Boards GPU instead of the Graphics card. Make sure the setting is GPU only and that it's resolution is compatible with game.

This should not be a single core dual core issue. I have ran into that but only in modern games having to be turned down to single core. Silent hunter works fine as a dual core processed game.

Have you thought about partitioning your Terabyte drive and allowing it to have a smaller partition for the OS and use another for program installations? Having the OS on a separate drive or partition is always best practice especially the separate drive version. I never load programs onto a drive that contains an OS unless it application was specifically coded to run on no other drive than a system drive.

Recheck your RAM voltage settings. Check your bios to see if the XMP settings are correct and that the frequency matches your RAMs. Turn it "off" auto and set it according to the Ram Manufactures frequency setting.

I would also check your default settings for the graphics cards against these known good settings for Nividia. After you rebuilt this everything most likely went back to zero on the default side.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128517

[THEBERBSTER]

I would suggest that having spent a lot of money updating windows you would do well to upgrade to the dvd 'Wolves of the Pacific' which also comes with extras and will upgrade you from v1.4 to v1.5.

The dvd is quite cheap these days from Amazon.

You will also benefit from a bigger variety of mods available.

You should not install in the 'Program x86 Folder.'

it would be better to install simply in C:\SH4 and let the installation do the rest as it will also install a 'SH4 Folder' in your 'Documents Folder.'

[ReallyDedPoet]

Welcome to SUBSIM DvlHownd

I hope you get it sorted. I have Windows 8.1 so I cannot really help you. Hang in there and folks who have 7 will help you get this done

SUBSIM is a great community with very helpful members.

[DvlHownd]

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

I would suggest that having spent a lot of money updating windows you would do well to upgrade to the dvd 'Wolves of the Pacific' which also comes with extras and will upgrade you from v1.4 to v1.5. It's a question of having the desire to "upgrade". At this time, I'm happy with the "vanilla" 1.4. Maybe in time, but not now.

The dvd is quite cheap these days from Amazon.

You will also benefit from a bigger variety of mods available. Have you looked at the downloads section lately? There's a heck of a lot of variety out there available. (at least for my level of play)

You should not install in the 'Program x86 Folder.'

it would be better to install simply in C:\SH4 and let the installation do the rest as it will also install a 'SH4 Folder' in your 'Documents Folder.'

Been there, done that. Doesn't seem to make a lot of difference. Still crashes. grrrrrrrrr

[Hjalfnar]

Did you try the suggestion with the extra gold version patch? I'm running the amazon Gold Edition of SH4 on a Win7 64bit with 8GB RAM just fine...BUT only with this patch, in every other case it crashed on start.

[DvlHownd]

Originally Posted by Hjalfnar

Did you try the suggestion with the extra gold version patch? I'm running the amazon Gold Edition of SH4 on a Win7 64bit with 8GB RAM just fine...BUT only with this patch, in every other case it crashed on start.

I don't have the Gold edition. Looks like I may have to seek one out.

[magic452]

Just guessing here but did you load the direct x that came with the game? There are some files that are require that version.

Magic

[DvlHownd]

Originally Posted by magic452

Just guessing here but did you load the direct x that came with the game? There are some files that are require that version.

Magic

Yes. I made sure that was included in the install.

[relfin]

When you say that it "crashed to a black screen" do you mean that the pc turned itself off/rebooted? If so, it could be an overheating of the processor that is turning off the pc. Download a free CPU temp check program.

You could try opening up your case and blowing a fan on your parts.

Good Luck

I also see that you reused the cpu from your old motherboard. You want to make sure that you use some new thermal compound between your CPU and heatsink. Make sure you blow all the dust out of all of your fans and off of the heatsink fins.

I have personally had an overheating problem myself which resulted in my pc shutting down. I was able to fix the problem with the suggestions above.

[Warren Peace]

Two things I would suggest trying, which are unrelated to Windows but could be the cause:

1) Update your bios, MSI 970 series boards are notoriously unreliable.
2) If possible, go into your bios and turn off the Overclock Genie. It's entirely possible that your MOBO is attempting to OC your processor and RAM, failing miserably, and causing too much power drain, resulting in the VRM overheating and locking up the system.

[DvlHownd]

Originally Posted by relfin

When you say that it "crashed to a black screen" do you mean that the pc turned itself off/rebooted? If so, it could be an overheating of the processor that is turning off the pc. Download a free CPU temp check program. It did crash to a black screen but didn't turn itself completely off. I still had a power light but had to reboot to get computer to function.

You could try opening up your case and blowing a fan on your parts.
The side panel is already off and four fans are moving air.

Good Luck

I also see that you reused the cpu from your old motherboard. You want to make sure that you use some new thermal compound between your CPU and heatsink. Make sure you blow all the dust out of all of your fans and off of the heatsink fins. That's the first thing I did was to ensure a new layer of thermal compound went down before I put on the heat sink and then blew compressed air everywhere to get rid of all dust.

I have personally had an overheating problem myself which resulted in my pc shutting down. I was able to fix the problem with the suggestions above.

I got it to work (sort of) but after about five minutes the frame rate takes a crash dive and the video just starts stuttering. I have since reinstalled Win7 and the game (including patch) again and are going to give it another go in a bit. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

[Mikemike47]

Originally Posted by relfin

Download a free CPU temp check program.

You could try opening up your case and blowing a fan on your parts.
Please ground yourself to power supply to dissipate any static charge from you or your vacuum cleaner/blower/air in a can first!!!! Remove your CPU fan, not the CPU, dust always accumulates on the the heatsinks there.

Speccy is a overall computer temp check program.

[merc4ulfate]

If your not getting an echo in your sound then the dual core issue is not a problem but if you did wish to uncheck a core to see if it makes a difference you have to:

Run the application
Control+Alt+Delete
Task Manager
Processes
Right Click the name of the Game Process (SH4.exe)
Set Affinity
UNCHECK CPU 1

Reestablish the game.

This could give you the O2 bug but you can play with it to see if it helps or not and at least eliminate one possibility.

[Phrozin]

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

You should not install in the 'Program x86 Folder.'

it would be better to install simply in C:\SH4 and let the installation do the rest as it will also install a 'SH4 Folder' in your 'Documents Folder.'

Definitely Don't install games in Win 7 to the default folder unless that game was made for win 7. I have multiple drives, but I install all my games (both new and old) to C:\games\*

when you updated your graphics card drivers did you forcibly remove the residual drivers?? This has been a pain in the all to often numb rearend of mine with windows 7. If you have not, uninstall all your Nvidia software & drivers then boot into windows safe mode and remove residuals with something like DDU. I made a post about doing just that here. Then reinstall them with the game in the root of C: somewhere as described by THEBERBSTER or myself. **Edit: Also when you reinstall the game, uninstall then reboot. once rebooted use a registry cleaner, derangement program to find any "lost keys" and remove them. then reinstall, and reboot.

I did a quick and not thorough power calculation
and it's showing 242W usage. This however is based on a new power supply that is giving 100% not an older one giving 60%. Also I didn't know any other options you have (like blu-ray drive) so I just guessed. Anytime I replace a motherboard or CPU I always replace the PSU as well. All that being said, it sounds like a hardware issue to me as well, as you are playing along and then black with a screech. That could be PSU not giving enough juice, video card not seated correctly, CPU not seated correctly, dust retaining heat, fans not pushing enough air, air flow to turbulent for cooling, corrupted windows, corrupted drivers, ram in dual channel but at different speeds, PSU clogged with dust.... the list goes on.

Let us know how you get on if you decide to reinstall drivers, I hate hearing about someone not being able to play a game.

[DvlHownd]

Originally Posted by Phrozin

Definitely Don't install games in Win 7 to the default folder unless that game was made for win 7. I have multiple drives, but I install all my games (both new and old) to C:\games\* Yep, c:\Silent Hunter - nothing else.

when you updated your graphics card drivers did you forcibly remove the residual drivers?? This has been a pain in the all to often numb rearend of mine with windows 7. If you have not, uninstall all your Nvidia software & drivers then boot into windows safe mode and remove residuals with something like DDU. I made a post about doing just that here. Then reinstall them with the game in the root of C: somewhere as described by THEBERBSTER or myself. **Edit: Also when you reinstall the game, uninstall then reboot. once rebooted use a registry cleaner, derangement program to find any "lost keys" and remove them. then reinstall, and reboot. Yep, did searches in c:\ drive and in registry, then rebooted and ran a reg cleaner.

I did a quick and not thorough power calculation
and it's showing 242W usage. This however is based on a new power supply that is giving 100% not an older one giving 60%. Also I didn't know any other options you have (like blu-ray drive) so I just guessed. Anytime I replace a motherboard or CPU I always replace the PSU as well. All that being said, it sounds like a hardware issue to me as well, as you are playing along and then black with a screech. That could be PSU not giving enough juice, video card not seated correctly, CPU not seated correctly, dust retaining heat, fans not pushing enough air, air flow to turbulent for cooling, corrupted windows, corrupted drivers, ram in dual channel but at different speeds, PSU clogged with dust.... the list goes on. I do have a new 600W available so I may plug that in after a bit.

Let us know how you get on if you decide to reinstall drivers, I hate hearing about someone not being able to play a game.

I do fear it is the video card failing. Mouse is beginning to pause when attempting to move it. System is running a 41 degrees C and did the BIOS flash and other drivers but tonight I uninstalled/reinstalled and tried to run it very vanilla with all graphics options off and got maybe two minutes before it crashed. So "screw it" I says, I'll take a break and enjoy the vestiges of distilled corn while I watch a streaming video from Netflix (No, it wasn't Das Boot ). Well I got about 18 minutes into that movie when *POOF* Black screen - audible "brrrrrrrrrrrrrr" - shut down. Gawd I hope Kentucky has enough corn. Sooooo. tomorrow it's off to Best Buy to get another video card and see what trials and tribulations that may bring.


And, just for grins, I looked at the Windows error report and this is what I found after yesterday's shutdowns:

Faulting application name: sh4.exe, version: 1.4.0.0, time stamp: 0x4743033b
Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 6.1.7601.18247, time stamp: 0x521ea8e7
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0002e41b
Faulting process id: 0xf5c
Faulting application start time: 0x01cf6ff5085c2263
Faulting application path: C:\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\sh4.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll
Report Id: a3939759-dbe8-11e3-80c8-448a5b2f9f82

****************************************

Problem signature:
P1: sh4.exe
P2: 1.4.0.0
P3: 4743033b
P4: ntdll.dll
P5: 6.1.7601.18247
P6: 521ea8e7
P7: c0000005
P8: 0002e41b
P9:
P10:

Attached files:
C:\Users\Jake\AppData\Local\Temp\WER4A88.tmp.WERIn ternalMetadata.xml

These files may be available here:
C:\Users\Jake\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ ReportArchive\AppCrash_sh4.exe_5d9fdc36c161e45654c f68330d02d811cb9c4b7_0d73705f

Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: a3939759-dbe8-11e3-80c8-448a5b2f9f82
Report Status: 0



Fault bucket , type 0
Event Name: PCA2
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: sh4.exe
P2: 1.4.0.0
P3: Silent Hunter IV
P4: Silent Hunter IV
P5: Ubisoft
P6: 200
P7: -1
P8:
P9:
P10:

Attached files:
C:\Users\Jake\AppData\Local\Temp\{36767df8-3739-481d-ab8c-ae2855028155}\appcompat.txt
C:\Users\Jake\AppData\Local\Temp\TabBFB8.tmp

These files may be available here:


Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: b5dfae4a-dbe8-11e3-80c8-448a5b2f9f82
Report Status: 0

Maybe somebody can make some sense of this but I sure can't