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Old 04-07-14, 04:15 PM   #511
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Relax sport.. it's your polititians that will do you in.. not the terries, or the Chinese.
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Old 04-07-14, 05:07 PM   #512
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I can sit at this computer as any of you can..and track any flight in real-time..I watch when friends are flying in and track the flight the whole time..there is something fishy with them claiming they don,t know the flight plan..They let out that some sort of signal is automatically sent from every plane to satellites and it is not able to disable this from the cockpit(in effect ,a tracker)..
Missed the part about the transponder stopping about an hour into the flight did you?

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If the oceans were being monitored 50 years ago with SOSUS,,why would today be any different?
https://www.strategypage.com/dls/art...m-2-5-2011.asp
Not sure how SONUS or similar would help in this case. We're talking about hearing a single splash in a very large ocean on a system designed to pick up a submarine. If any sensors picked the crash then why wait to say so? Hiding some supposedly secret technology is not enough.

Posting speculative nonsense is pointless.
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Old 04-07-14, 05:31 PM   #513
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post moved to correct 'space shuttle' thread.
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Old 04-07-14, 05:38 PM   #514
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China is the reason that area would be covered with surveillance...
There's about 3,500 miles between Perth and the South China Sea. And the South China Sea is South of China.

Really, 1,000 miles to the NW of Perth is not where any military or intelligence agencies have pinpointed their focus for pretty much anything since Op Hurricane in '52.
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Old 04-07-14, 07:20 PM   #515
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Military has an Un-limited budget especially for security reasons..
I wish I knew which military this is. It ain't the US military. The days of open checkbooks is long past. We are fighting for every buck these days.
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Old 04-08-14, 01:22 PM   #516
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I find it hard to believe that any major powers', hi tech submarine, didn't pick anything up.
These subs can pick up anomolous sounds a continent away.
The intelligence services know exactly where the plane is,but can't reveal due to security reasons.
I know this sounds conspiracy bs,but my friend of a friend of a friend.ad infinitum,wink,wink,serves on SSN's and he has told me things that would make your hair curl. 'Nuff said
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Old 04-08-14, 01:54 PM   #517
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That's one of the conspirators biggest problem... the lack of knowledge about certain things


A sub( just to take something) who may be around North Korea can't hear what happens many hundred miles away.

And should there have been a American sub in that area of the vanishing/crash, I know the information would be handed through the diplomatically or civilians channels, to the the legitimate authorities

I have seen a lot of pictures on Facebook- They can read the newspaper laying on the street, but they can't find a simple huge airplane-

Yes they could if they had a satellite in that specific area.( the nearest should be around North Korea and the chinese sea and from what I have learned these satellite haven't so much widespread area of seeing, but USA is planning to send some very advanced satellite into orbit.

http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.as...1-8fe5d25a485d

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Old 04-08-14, 04:10 PM   #518
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Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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The problem is that people who know about such things know better than to comment on the Internets Tubes

The people who would comment on the Internets Tubes probably don't really know.
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Old 04-08-14, 04:24 PM   #519
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That's one of the conspirators biggest problem... the lack of knowledge about certain things


A sub( just to take something) who may be around North Korea can't hear what happens many hundred miles away.
Lack of knowledge is a problem which can be solved. A confirmation bias is harder.
Those people underestimate the size of the area, overestimate the state of our technology and have a blatent disregard for physical laws. Even unlimited funds can't compensate the latter.

A sub around NK might be able to pick up noises from the search area, but certainly not a signal from the black box's beacon.
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Old 04-08-14, 04:43 PM   #520
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I know this sounds conspiracy bs,but my friend of a friend of a friend.ad infinitum,
If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck....
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The problem is that people who know about such things know better than to comment on the Internets Tubes

The people who would comment on the Internets Tubes probably don't really know.
It's not some kind of a secret that USA have spy satellites. The question is where they could be at this moment.

It is here I made a guess-Ukraine, Middle East and North Korea/South China . Those are the hot spot in the world as we speak. I do not know how many USA have

And I'm 100 % sure that Russia know that a spy satellite is hanging over Ukraine.

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Old 04-08-14, 07:57 PM   #522
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whether you want to believe that the US has the WHOLE world under surveillance or not is up to you....I wouldn,t bet against it after recent things have been revealed..As for the technology ,,better believe it! 1984 is here!Ask those terrorists in the middle of nowhere if they believe it..Oh sorry, they can,t answer because of that drone hellfire that atomized them! Us a cell phone and you are pin-pointed if they are looking for you..think anyone on that plane tried to use their phones?

Hellfire?

FYI Cell phones don't work at 30kft. No missiles required.
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They don't work too well 4km under water either.
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Old 04-09-14, 02:27 PM   #524
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The search for Flight 370 was declared "The most difficult in human history."

Amelia Earhart could not be reached for comment...
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Closing in but still no cigar: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-1...ck-box/5384164
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