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whether you want to believe that the US has the WHOLE world under surveillance or not is up to you....I wouldn,t bet against it after recent things have been revealed..As for the technology ,,better believe it! 1984 is here!Ask those terrorists in the middle of nowhere if they believe it..Oh sorry, they can,t answer because of that drone hellfire that atomized them! Us a cell phone and you are pin-pointed if they are looking for you..think anyone on that plane tried to use their phones?
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Spotting potential bad guys in a hot zone, buzzing with drones is abit different from spotting an airliner in the middle of an ocean.
Using cellphones would have done little good as they were a) flying high up and b) in the middle of an ocean. |
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Again, based on what? We're talking about very different things here. And even the cellphone thing is absurd, because we all know how effective all that has been - militias in Iraq and Afghanistan are stronger than ever. Heroin and cocaine prices in the US are at an all time low, because deliveries by land, sea and air are getting through and supply is high.
But none of that matters because where's the technology? If you can actually demonstrate the type of radar or other satellite sensor capable of this kind of surveillance at the level of coverage needed to track planes in even more remote parts of the world, then we'll see. If history teaches us anything though, capabilities of new sensor technologies have typically been over-valued in peacetime, only to be found wholly deficient during war. |
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My wish would be that the technological capability did exist and a 'lucky find' could be attributed to the planes location but I think had the aforementioned been possible then an announcement would have been made a long time ago.
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Who knows what exists...Bin laden was tracked from the US ,not from Pakistan or Afghanistan..Put under surveillance there once he was found...I can sit at this computer as any of you can..and track any flight in real-time..I watch when friends are flying in and track the flight the whole time..there is something fishy with them claiming they don,t know the flight plan..They let out that some sort of signal is automatically sent from every plane to satellites and it is not able to disable this from the cockpit(in effect ,a tracker)..If the oceans were being monitored 50 years ago with SOSUS,,why would today be any different?
https://www.strategypage.com/dls/art...m-2-5-2011.asp BTW what is that BETBET thing in my last post?????? if this article was let out,other capabilities far beyond that are NOT being let out..Just like the US stealth fighters and bombers...If these were officially released to the press,, that means something else has taken its place and has made that system almost obsolete... Have to answer the "heroin" thing..Too much money involved for someone (who knows who) not to look the other way,,so many cases of cops only busting druggies after NOT getting their pay-offs..Always been that way,, will always stay that way..even during prohibition...Corruption is just doing business. http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/techno...acoustics.html Last edited by scorpiondown; 04-07-14 at 10:02 AM. |
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^ scorpiondown, you're right some of the western countries have the technologies as you mentioned However and it is a big however.
You have to place some of these satellite over the area of where the plane went missing. What I understand USA has placed 2-3 of these satellite above following countries/area: North Korea, Syria/Iran or middle east and Ukraine/West Russia. The area we speak of is not a political hot spot therefore no area of satellite surveillance. Just for your information I'm talking about military spy satellite. Markus |
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China is the reason that area would be covered with surveillance...The US is worried about China increasing it,s naval capacity...I live near Cape Canaveral and there are always classified payload launches that are only covered on the news around here so people can watch the lift-offs..What are they???only can guess..More than just a few of those satellites lurking around up there..Military has an Un-limited budget especially for security reasons..Between US base in Diego Garcia,,Antarctica and Australian assets...Indian ocean is pretty well covered i,d think..
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Relax sport.. it's your polititians that will do you in.. not the terries, or the Chinese.
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post moved to correct 'space shuttle' thread.
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Really, 1,000 miles to the NW of Perth is not where any military or intelligence agencies have pinpointed their focus for pretty much anything since Op Hurricane in '52.
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I wish I knew which military this is. It ain't the US military. The days of open checkbooks is long past. We are fighting for every buck these days.
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Hellfire? ![]() FYI Cell phones don't work at 30kft. No missiles required.
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