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Old 11-26-13, 08:06 PM   #1
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Interesting, yes...

I don't think there'll be a war coming out of this. Our govt is too busy sitting on its hands.

The fact that two B-52s made that little show of force kind of proves that they are not sitting on their hands.If that where the case this thread would not be in existence.

Will China or Japan or the other Asian nations go to war over this? I highly doubt it.What China is doing is flexing its military muscles to see how other nations react to it.They just got a message today.

More than likely China will raise issue over this area and others over the next few years again to test the reaction.China is still at best about 20 years away from equalizing the technology gap between its military power and that of the United Sates.Until they feel confident of that they have a viable chance at victory should a conflict occur they will not make a real move.

They still have Taiwan(Republic of China) to "repatriate" as well and that will be their big move though they might try taking some smaller claim first.

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Old 11-27-13, 04:47 AM   #2
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The fact that two B-52s made that little show of force kind of proves that they are not sitting on their hands.If that where the case this thread would not be in existence.
Or it is just one of these meaningless Obamanian symbolic gestures. Like his worthless speeches about Syria stepping beyond red lines. Or his meaningless appeasements to the Israelis while de facto getting the Iranians away with their nuclear bomb intentions.

He let two B52 do a practice flight. And I cleaned my basement yesterday.
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I wonder if those B-52s were flying from Australia. The USAF has a base here.
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Old 11-27-13, 05:38 AM   #4
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I wonder if those B-52s were flying from Australia. The USAF has a base here.
No the report said Guam and returned to Guam. No reason they would have come from down under.
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The Chinese claim they were monitoring both aircraft.

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China monitored the flight of two US bombers that flew across its newly-declared "air defence identification zone", its defence ministry said.

"China's air force monitored the entire course [of the US bombers], identified them in a timely way, and ascertained the type of US aircraft," the statement said.

"China will identify all aircraft activity in East China Sea Air Defence Identification Zone", it added. "China has the ability to effectively manage and control the relevant air zone."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25099123
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Old 11-27-13, 08:28 PM   #6
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The Chinese claim they were monitoring both aircraft.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25099123
Yeah and i'm the queen of England. They probably didn't know they had even been there until the report came out.
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No the report said Guam and returned to Guam. No reason they would have come from down under.
Didn't see that part.
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Our mob called the Chinese ambassador in for a stern chat voicing our concerns about their expanded air space and today got a firm sod off from Beijing
Not surprising...I doubt they take much notice of any nation.

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Yeah and i'm the queen of England. They probably didn't know they had even been there until the report came out.
I do agree there...your Majesty
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Now Japan and South Korea have joined in the fun:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25133957

Chinas bluff has been completely called and there's sod all they can do about it without creating a major incident.
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Or it is just one of these meaningless Obamanian symbolic gestures. Like his worthless speeches about Syria stepping beyond red lines. Or his meaningless appeasements to the Israelis while de facto getting the Iranians away with their nuclear bomb intentions.

He let two B52 do a practice flight. And I cleaned my basement yesterday.

No one is watching you clean your basement though unless you have some rodent hiding out down there and be now has taken a defense posture in response to your aggression.

I disagree at least in the US every large scale military exercise that is carried out is done so primarily to display to those who are observing our military power.When nations take part in joint exercises the same message is sent with the additional message that the participants are also allies.


It seems to be a moot point though if someone truly say Obama as weak then they would take action.If China was so bold they would not be talking they'd be doing China is as spineless as Obama.
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