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Stealhead 11-26-13 02:11 PM

An interesting development
 
A message has been conveyed so to speak.

http://news.yahoo.com/us-flies-b-52-...172803843.html

Ducimus 11-26-13 02:16 PM

Yeah I saw mention of that on the BBC earlier today and thought it an interesting development.

Sailor Steve 11-26-13 02:17 PM

Nothing for China to worry about. Those old grannies couldn't hurt a fly.
:rotfl2:

Jimbuna 11-26-13 02:32 PM

Well it certainly made front page on the BBC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25110011

Red October1984 11-26-13 07:59 PM

Interesting, yes...

I don't think there'll be a war coming out of this. Our govt is too busy sitting on its hands.

Stealhead 11-26-13 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red October1984 (Post 2145074)
Interesting, yes...

I don't think there'll be a war coming out of this. Our govt is too busy sitting on its hands.


The fact that two B-52s made that little show of force kind of proves that they are not sitting on their hands.If that where the case this thread would not be in existence.

Will China or Japan or the other Asian nations go to war over this? I highly doubt it.What China is doing is flexing its military muscles to see how other nations react to it.They just got a message today.

More than likely China will raise issue over this area and others over the next few years again to test the reaction.China is still at best about 20 years away from equalizing the technology gap between its military power and that of the United Sates.Until they feel confident of that they have a viable chance at victory should a conflict occur they will not make a real move.

They still have Taiwan(Republic of China) to "repatriate" as well and that will be their big move though they might try taking some smaller claim first.

Skybird 11-27-13 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red October1984 (Post 2145074)
Interesting, yes...

I don't think there'll be a war coming out of this. Our govt is too busy sitting on its hands.

Some people compare the situation to a "Balkanization" of the region, meaning to compare it to the circumstances that in 1914 led to a world war that nobody wanted, but everybody stumbled into in sort of a sleepwalk. That both in China and Japan a strengthening in nationalism accompanied latest political changes, has added to the rise in tensions. The US must be concerned about the very realistic chance of being drawn into a huge regional war due to their ally Japan spilling fuel into the fire. On the other side is China with clear ambitions and claims that it cannot give up if it wants to become the big power it wants to be. If Japan, SouthKorea and Taiwan however will get the Chinese away with it and accept the disputed sea region to become territorial water of China, then not only means this a loss of resources believed to be in the sea region, but a signal of accepting Chinese blackmailing and imperial dominance, putting the sovereignity of other nations into questions.

The only possible compromise is a dirty one, and that is the international cooperation in winning those resources. How that could be achieved I have no clue, and beyond that I see no chance that this conflict loiters on endlessly without sooner or later breaking out openly.

It's one of these global hotspots where danger is maximum. And no, it is not about just two rocks in the sea with a flock of goats on them.

Skybird 11-27-13 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2145076)
The fact that two B-52s made that little show of force kind of proves that they are not sitting on their hands.If that where the case this thread would not be in existence.

Or it is just one of these meaningless Obamanian symbolic gestures. Like his worthless speeches about Syria stepping beyond red lines. Or his meaningless appeasements to the Israelis while de facto getting the Iranians away with their nuclear bomb intentions.

He let two B52 do a practice flight. And I cleaned my basement yesterday.

Cybermat47 11-27-13 04:56 AM

I wonder if those B-52s were flying from Australia. The USAF has a base here.

TarJak 11-27-13 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 2145172)
I wonder if those B-52s were flying from Australia. The USAF has a base here.

No the report said Guam and returned to Guam. No reason they would have come from down under.

Jimbuna 11-27-13 08:55 AM

The Chinese claim they were monitoring both aircraft.

Quote:

China monitored the flight of two US bombers that flew across its newly-declared "air defence identification zone", its defence ministry said.

"China's air force monitored the entire course [of the US bombers], identified them in a timely way, and ascertained the type of US aircraft," the statement said.

"China will identify all aircraft activity in East China Sea Air Defence Identification Zone", it added. "China has the ability to effectively manage and control the relevant air zone."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25099123

THE_MASK 11-27-13 06:17 PM

Shouldn't japan put a flag on one of the islands . Then china can try to spam it with multiple aircraft etc .

TarJak 11-27-13 08:25 PM

Our mob called the Chinese ambassador in for a stern chat voicing our concerns about their expanded air space and today got a firm sod off from Beijing

Admiral Halsey 11-27-13 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2145217)
The Chinese claim they were monitoring both aircraft.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25099123

Yeah and i'm the queen of England. They probably didn't know they had even been there until the report came out.

Cybermat47 11-27-13 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2145176)
No the report said Guam and returned to Guam. No reason they would have come from down under.

Didn't see that part.


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