Subsim front page article that pissed me off

[areo16]

Originally Posted by August

The term is your invention, not mine. They were widely considered to be instruments of Democracy whether or not they were always referred to as such.

A German sub sunk between 1939 and 1945 was fighting a war on the side of the nazi government. That makes it a nazi sub in my book just like my grandfathers gun was a nazi gun. I like most people understand the difference between the weapons and the men who crewed them.

Well, we recognize everything else from who it belongs to. If Mike uses a hammer that belongs to John, then Mike is using John's hammer. If someone points to the hammer and asks what it is, a person will say that it is John's hammer. It is not Mike's hammer unless John says Mike can keep the hammer. No, Mike is just using the hammer.

The Nazi's were using the sub, but the sub belonged to Germany. And the Nazis were able to use it because the Nazi's controlled Germany.

It's John's hammer and it's Germany's sub.