[REL] R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage

[vdr1981]

Originally Posted by vdr1981

Ahhh my happiness, tell me Gap, is there a person who knows better this game then you?

Originally Posted by gap

Many of them: TDW, Trevally, Rongel, Sober, Targor, Volodya... and several others. The list is quite long, and mentioning all of them would make a long post. Enough to say that anyone of them has his sector of expertise, and a big part of what I know, I know from them.

I didn't mean to offend anyone...It was just my euphoria...

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by vdr1981

..Small of topic, is it possible to use "spoilers" at subsim?

Originally Posted by gap

Do you mean a tag for making parts of text hidden? Never seed such a thing in subsim forums.

It's old forum's engine that we have here - vBulletin® Version 3.8.4..
As I know, the newer engine versions, since v4, have spoiler option..
Here we can use only 'code' tags so far..

[gap]

Originally Posted by vdr1981

I didn't mean to offend anyone...It was just my euphoria...

I think no one felt offended.

Originally Posted by volodya61

It's old forum's engine that we have here - vBulletin® Version 3.8.4..
As I know, the newer engine versions, since v4, have spoiler option..
Here we can use only 'code' tags so far..

I am perfect ignorant on this topic. A revamp of the forum section would be well and good, but I think it would also cost a not so good amount of money

[Mikemike47]

Originally Posted by gap

Do you mean a tag for making parts of text hidden? Never seed such a thing in subsim forums.

What does seed mean? I can not draw a meaning from the context given.

[gap]

Originally Posted by Mikemike47

What does seed mean? I can not draw a meaning from the context given.

ops, sorry: mistyped for "seen"

[LMD]

Originally Posted by vdr1981

Hold on...I think I'm onto something...

I could bet in 5 bucks you have this patch enabled, right?

Hi, vdr1981!

Can you please confirm that we should disable this option in Patcher?
As far as I know it should be enabled together with Collateral Damage.
If so should we then disable both options and use only your mod? Did I get it right?

[vdr1981]

Originally Posted by LMD

Hi, vdr1981!

Can you please confirm that we should disable this option in Patcher?
As far as I know it should be enabled together with Collateral Damage.
If so should we then disable both options and use only your mod? Did I get it right?

No, patches are OK, just use Rongel bullet spark test add-on, you can find it in Sobers mega mod list...

[LMD]

Originally Posted by vdr1981

No, patches are OK, just use Rongel bullet spark test add-on, you can find it in Sobers mega mod list...

Many thanks

[THE_MASK]

This mod really changes the way I play the game in a realistic tension filled way .

[lodebeard]

Originally Posted by sober

This mod really changes the way I play the game in a realistic tension filled way .

Amen. It's a great mod

[gap]

@ Vecko

Just to be sure: when you added new zone controllers to some equipments, you made sure to remove old controllers from the zon files you used as template, or you remapped the Id's of any "recycled" controller. Didn't you?

I am sorry for asking, but with this discussion about random ctd's still going on, and with RSD being mentioned at times as a possible source of crashes, I want to clear any possible doubt away from your brilliant mod

[plj]

Originally Posted by gap

@ Vecko

Just to be sure: when you added new zone controllers to some equipments, you made sure to remove old controllers from the zon files you used as template, or you remapped the Id's of any "recycled" controller. Didn't you?

I am sorry for asking, but with this discussion about random ctd's still going on, and with RSD being mentioned at times as a possible source of crashes, I want to clear any possible doubt away from your brilliant mod

In NO investigation was RSD every found to be the issue. It was assumed to be the issue because it was the newest addition to a list. All my CTD's happen with or without RSD. The Silentotto CTD thing just went away .. and was the closest to being able to blame CTD's on RSD.

Given the fact it's not possible to replicate these CTD's where RSD would be the culprit, it cant be that.

[vdr1981]

Originally Posted by gap

@ Vecko

Just to be sure: when you added new zone controllers to some equipments, you made sure to remove old controllers from the zon files you used as template, or you remapped the Id's of any "recycled" controller. Didn't you?

I am sorry for asking, but with this discussion about random ctd's still going on, and with RSD being mentioned at times as a possible source of crashes, I want to clear any possible doubt away from your brilliant mod

If I understood problematic correctly , controllers ID is randomly generated when new controller is added via goblin editor, right? So I only did just that...I never used some controller as "template" (i don't think that's even possible), or copy-paste, or something.

In short, I added new controllers to existing .zon files with goblin, when I added new .zon file, I took some other zon file, copy/rename and remove all existing zon controllers(s3d)/save and then I add new controllers with goblin...

Because newly generated ID is very large number, how big are chances that it can be matched with some existing ID, it's almost like braking Enigma code, although, Enigma was eventually broken, but through different processes...

Maybe I misunderstood you completely regarding this issue? Can you do some checks in s3d?

[gap]

Originally Posted by plj

In NO investigation was RSD every found to be the issue...

I am glad about it, but when I said that RSD is being mentioned, I didn't mean that it was during your "stubborn ctd hunt"

Originally Posted by vdr1981

If I understood problematic correctly , controllers ID is randomly generated when new controller is added via goblin editor, right?

Good question: they should, but I have really no idea about it.

Originally Posted by vdr1981

So I only did just that...I never used some controller as "template" (i don't think that's even possible), or copy-paste, or something.

In short, I added new controllers to existing .zon files with goblin, when I added new .zon file, I took some other zon file, copy/rename and remove all existing zon controllers(s3d)/save and then I add new controllers with goblin...

Okay, you have already answered my question. The method you have followed is unexceptionable

Originally Posted by vdr1981

Because newly generated ID is very large number...

18,446,744,073,709,552,000 to be exact

Originally Posted by vdr1981

...how big are chances that it can be matched with some existing ID...

practically null. But s-h-i-t happens and, with a muuuuuch mooooore significant frequency, the human error is always around the corner.
This is why I asked

[plj]

Originally Posted by gap

I am glad about it, but when I said that RSD is being mentioned, I didn't mean that it was during your "stubborn ctd hunt"

I'm not either. None of the CTD's that have been reported since version 4 or up (dunno about previous cba to look) where connectable to RSD as none of them where reliably reproduceable while modlists where identical. This rules out RSD.

Please correct me if I'm wrong on this ?

unexceptionable

I love that word .. at first I thought your messing up English .. so googled it .. and learned a new word

18,446,744,073,709,552,000 to be exact

Is there a chance that in certain scenarios a number gets initialized that does not fit into the type it has to fit ? An integer for instance only fits 2,147,483,647 ... this could corrupt values and cause devide by 0's if not handled correctly ..