You gotta be kidding me! Ben Affleck as Batman? - Page 4

soopaman2 · 08-23-13, 07:07 PM

I remember the Batman movie of my youth...

Micheal Keaton...

Be grateful, Afleck can at least pull off bad ass.

Kids nowadays....

Now that I think of it, even if the Adam West series was campy, he was the last Batman to have the blessing of the writer.

All others suck, Christian Bale was the worst. Like letting James Bond be played by an American.

Cybermat47 · 08-23-13, 07:18 PM

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All others suck, Christian Bale was the worst. Like letting James Bond be played by an American.

All the others suck? Have you ever seen an episode of Batman: The Animated Series/The New Batman Adventures? Kevin Conroy is a great Batman! And how can Christian Bale be worse than Val Kilmer or George Clooney? Clooney was so ashamed of his performance that he swore never to play Batman again...

But what's wrong with Bale? Is it the voice? If you were secretly fighting crime at night, trying to make sure no one knew your secret identity, would you use anything close to your real voice?

soopaman2 · 08-23-13, 07:34 PM

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All the others suck? Have you ever seen an episode of Batman: The Animated Series/The New Batman Adventures? Kevin Conroy is a great Batman! And how can Christian Bale be worse than Val Kilmer or George Clooney? Clooney was so ashamed of his performance that he swore never to play Batman again...

But what's wrong with Bale? Is it the voice? If you were secretly fighting crime at night, trying to make sure no one knew your secret identity, would you use anything close to your real voice?

Honestly yeah, it was the voice. Too over acted.

I love Bale as an actor, he is brilliant. Just not here.

I am also a comic book nerd, and alot of the movies got away from them. Bob Kane would have never sanctioned half this crap.

(Fun fact Kane Actually recommended Nicholson to play the Joker in the 1998 film) IMHO Keaton flopped Nicholson was an awesome Joker, Cesar Romero would be proud.

Cybermat47 · 08-23-13, 07:42 PM

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Honestly yeah, it was the voice. Too over acted.

I personally love the voice, but it was much better in Batman Begins.

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Nicholson was an awesome Joker, Cesar Romero would be proud.

That reminds me, I've got to see Batman and Batman Returns sometime, even if Batman is a homicidal maniac in them...

Sailor Steve · 08-23-13, 08:15 PM

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Nolan didn't butcher the Mythos. He made a realistic interpretation of it. Joel Schumacher, on the other hand...

You obviously have never read the comics. I liked the first one. The second one was good, but killing Harvey Dent right as he becomes Two-Face? He's one of the major ongoing characters and has been for decades, second only to the Joker. I refused to watch the third one after that.

Nolan may have made movies to your liking, but he did indeed butcher the Mythos.

Sailor Steve · 08-23-13, 08:23 PM

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Have you ever seen an episode of Batman: The Animated Series/The New Batman Adventures? Kevin Conroy is a great Batman!

Yes he is. In my opinion the animated Batman is still the best screen interpretation of the character(s).

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And how can Christian Bale be worse than Val Kilmer or George Clooney? Clooney was so ashamed of his performance that he swore never to play Batman again...

Misplaced loyalty. Kilmer did a fine job. Clooney did a fine job. The movies were poorly concieved, poorly written and poorly directed. That is not the actors' fault.

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But what's wrong with Bale? Is it the voice? If you were secretly fighting crime at night, trying to make sure no one knew your secret identity, would you use anything close to your real voice?

Christian Bale is fine. Gary Oldman is the perfect young Gordon. Too many toys, and I'm tired of the armored suits. I love Michael Caine, but Alfred the Cockney towering over Bruce Wayne? I laughed in all the wrong places. The movies were well made, and there were bits that tickled me, but they were one man's vision, and his vision had little to do with the original material.

As for Ben Affleck, as I said, after seeing him in Hollywoodland I have a great respect for his acting. We'll see how this goes.

Cybermat47 · 08-23-13, 08:30 PM

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Misplaced loyalty. Kilmer did a fine job. Clooney did a fine job. The movies were poorly concieved, poorly written and poorly directed. That is not the actors' fault.

Yeah, the things I didn't like about them was the dialogue... and Clooney apparently makes a great Bruce Wayne, but not so good a Batman.

Also, in regards to your previous post, apparently Two-Face wasn't going to be in The Dark Knight, but Harvey Dent was, and the Joker was going to splash acid on Dent's face at the beginning of the third film. I think that it's good that they changed that, considering what happened to Heath Ledger...

WernherVonTrapp · 08-23-13, 09:51 PM

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...considering what happened to Heath Ledger...

I thought Heath Ledger's performance as The Joker was the finest one I had yet seen of that character. It validated the character for me; took it out of the comic books (no dis to the books), made it real and made the persona believable.

August · 08-23-13, 10:03 PM

I wonder who Ben Assbats bad guy will be? The Joker again would be spectacularly uncreative, even for him.

Cybermat47 · 08-23-13, 10:26 PM

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I wonder who Ben Assbats bad guy will be? The Joker again would be spectacularly uncreative, even for him.

He's not in charge, Zack Snyder is. And I personally want the villain to be Harley Quinn, so if that's going to happen the Joker would have to be in it as well.

August · 08-23-13, 10:35 PM

I could dig it...

Feuer Frei! · 08-24-13, 02:28 AM

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The movies were poorly concieved, poorly written and poorly directed. That is not the actors' fault.

The mark of a good or even great actor is what they can do with a bad script.

Neither G C or V K have it in them to turn a bad script into a good one.

Ie take the script (with their parts) and run away with it. Commanding presence comes to mind.

V K's only good performance, that i've seen him in is Felon, with Stephen Dork.
He did a good job in that one.
Why? Because the script was simple and fairly shallow.
His repertoir wasn't tested one bit in that movie.
It was in Batman.
G C has the persona on screen of a piece of styrofoam.

But, that's my opinion and i have boycotted movies with either of them in it.

Rhodes · 08-24-13, 05:37 AM

Here some pictures from the eter!

Dowly · 08-24-13, 09:35 AM

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I WANT MY JUSTICE LEAGUE MOVIE DAMMIT.

Ok, then.

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The irony of Thursday’s news is that at one point Warner Bros. was interested
in having Affleck direct the “Justice League” movie and his participation in this
film will now spur interest if whether his casting means a possibility of
directing that film.

http://variety.com/2013/film/news/be...an-1200586881/

Sailor Steve · 08-24-13, 09:35 AM

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the Joker was going to splash acid on Dent's face...

That's another thing that really ticked me off about the second movie. As soon as I saw Eric Roberts as Boss Maroni I got excited, knowing where the story goes from there. Then they had the Joker do his thing, and Maroni was in one minute of the movie for pretty much no reason at all.

As I said, Nolan butchered the mythos.

Thanks for reminding me.

08-23-13, 07:07 PM	#46
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	I remember the Batman movie of my youth... Micheal Keaton... Be grateful, Afleck can at least pull off bad ass. Kids nowadays.... Now that I think of it, even if the Adam West series was campy, he was the last Batman to have the blessing of the writer. All others suck, Christian Bale was the worst. Like letting James Bond be played by an American. __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,258 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I wonder who Ben Assbats bad guy will be? The Joker again would be spectacularly uncreative, even for him. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,258 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I could dig it... __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

08-24-13, 05:37 AM	#58
Rhodes Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Figueira da Foz, Portugal Posts: 4,523 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	Here some pictures from the eter! __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416646@N05/