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Old 04-07-13, 11:39 AM   #36
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However I'm 150% convinced that 95-98 % of the population on both side have no problems living together with a Jew/Muslim
I'm sure the majority genuenly want peace, most civilians do. You are being pretty naive about their attitude to Jews, though, I'm afraid. In the last decades, the Arab world (yes, pretty much all of it) has been made practically "Jew-free".

The Arabs in Palestinian areas (the ones who themselves their own de facto nationality and took to calling themselves "Palestinians" in the 1970's) grow up in an extremely Israel-hostile environment where many of them (not sure if it's the same all over) are indoctrinated to hate Israel and Jews from kindergarten level, through their schooling and TV programmes. Recordings like these aren't exceptions or isolated incidents, they are the rule.

But sure, it's the wall and blockade and settlements that are the real obstacle to peace. Never mind that when neither existed the Arabs were already trying to wipe Israel and the Jews off the map, or that concessions typically have not been followed by reduced violence.


(funnily enough, all of this, both the organized eviction of Jews from the Arab world and the indoctrination of innocent children is supported/handwaved away/ignored by all the people who get their panties in a twist about Israel's "apartheid regime", but of course, we all know that such things are only bad when it's the evil Israelis doing them)


@Tribesman: yes, I know tunnels exist (imagine that, people finding a way around border control!). Yes, I know that aid organizations have trouble sending cement, and I know why (it needs to be monitored so that we know it's actually used to build civilian infrastructure and not more tunnels/HAMAS bunkers, hardened weapons caches, etc.).

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He will tell you that blockade makes hamas and alike more popular and so on.
As if the terrorism was a response to safety measures, and not the other way around. It's like saying that plane hijackings are caused by anger over securiy checkpoints at airports.
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