Gun Control thread (merged many)

[NeonSamurai]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Yeah I figured as much. I think every country's news sources are biased one way or another. Countries aside, id guess nearly anything that is pro-gun, will be biased to the right. Lately one of my past times has been comparing CNN to Foxnews, just to see for myself how bad the bias really is, and it is really bad. Disgustingly so. Politics is todays "masterpiece theater" .

I agree, I don't think the divide in Canadian news sources is quite as big though. I really miss the days where you could watch news without the newscaster telling me how I must think about the news being reported. I can for my self thank you, and generally far better then the pablum you are trying to feed me

Even between States, within the United States we have big cultural differences.

Yep I know, been to several different states, even lived short term in a few. Same goes for Canada, heck if you want gigantic cultural differences, look at Quebec. I was looking more at the broader cultural flavor so to speak.

Nobody's as bad as Glen Beck. At least, nobody I ever bothered to listen to. Yeah he has a biased to the right. That much is obvious, but I don't see him frothing at the mouth sputtering a bunch of conspiracy theory garbage. Hmm, maybe i"m thinking of Alex Jones. Meh. Either way, this guy doesn't appear to be as irrational as our own talking heads.

I don't know, from the Canadian perspective (or at least what I would consider it to be) I think most people would find him rather irrational. It is why I could not finish watching, because it was full of so much utter nonsense in my opinion. Maybe not as bad, which is why I used the term the Canadian version

Well, I think that's because Canuk's don't have certain things that we do.

- Do they have the history and level of violence in their inner cities that the US does? (Gang violence being one example, While i'm sure they have some, I doubt it's to the extend of ours.)
- Mohammad didn't park a couple of airliners into any of their skyscrapers. So began our current era of "politics of fear" in earnest here in the US.
- I think, generally speaking, most American's tend to be a bit more paranoid of an over reaching government to begin with.

Well lets see, we had 2 biker gang wars in Montreal where they were using car bombs and trying to blow up buildings (I was living in Montreal during a lot of it... fun times), we are having gang problems in all of our major cities (many of these being import gangs like the bloods, crips, etc.). Only reason why the bloodshed is so much lower, is due to how hard it is to get guns in the Canadian black market. Not many criminals can afford it or have the connections to get guns or ammo (ammo is a bit easier though). Most use knives and other melee weapons instead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_Biker_war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_in_Canada

Maybe not to the same extent as the US, but I think the bigger question is why is there so much of a difference in crime rate? Personally I think the biggest reason is poverty and lack of opportunity.

The terrorist action against the US freaked us out too, and made us far more paranoid than we use to be as well. There were Canadians in the tower too (along with other foreign nationals).

Yes, that is pretty different from Canada. I always find it interesting that government is feared so much, but not business entities, which I think is a much larger threat to the the pursuit of life, liberty, and all of that. Government is one of the few things that protects its citizens from the unrestrained greed of buisness (and I do not believe greed is a good thing).