A Marines letter

01-03-13, 02:19 AM

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I think this is more likely a case of Cpl Chain Mail than it is Joshua Boston.

I would never have guessed.
Pretty dumb attempt isn't it.
Do not ask me if I have guns as I own an AR-15 and I will not tell you that

I think cpl Just Bull has a bit of Captain Mainwairing about him

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Watch out America, the delusional new Minute Men are coming to the rescue!

Unfortunately they might be true words Eddie.
If you recall one of those well publicised "once a marine always a marine" friends of yubba did lots of rants about his second amendment rights and protecting the constitution from evil politicians who are supposed to serve him...just before he alledgedly murdered a big pile of people then topped it all off by killing some woman and children before doing the world a favour and blowing his brains out.

TarJak · 01-03-13, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

I would never have guessed.
Pretty dumb attempt isn't it.
Do not ask me if I have guns as I own an AR-15 and I will not tell you that

I think cpl Just Bull has a bit of Captain Mainwairing about him

Unfortunately they might be true words Eddie.
If you recall one of those well publicised "once a marine always a marine" friends of yubba did lots of rants about his second amendment rights and protecting the constitution from evil politicians who are supposed to serve him...just before he alledgedly murdered a big pile of people then topped it all off by killing some woman and children before doing the world a favour and blowing his brains out.

Well no-one said you had to be smart to be a grunt corporal did they?

Does this guy have a problem with the government knowing he owns a car or holds a driving license? What's the difference and why would having to have a gun license and ownership of a weapon registered, be any different to having a drivers license and having your car registered? They are both deadly inanimate objects.

Sailor Steve · 01-03-13, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

What's the difference and why would having to have a gun license and ownership of a weapon registered, be any different to having a drivers license and having your car registered? They are both deadly inanimate objects.

1. The Constitution doesn't guarantee the right to vehicle ownership. Actually in a way it does, implicit in the 9th Amendment, but guns are specifically named for reasons given many times over.

2. I can indeed own a car, without registration or a drivers license. I can't drive it on public roads without both of those, but on my own property is fine, and no one can say otherwise.

TarJak · 01-03-13, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

1. The Constitution doesn't guarantee the right to vehicle ownership. Actually in a way it does, implicit in the 9th Amendment, but guns are specifically named for reasons given many times over.

2. I can indeed own a car, without registration or a drivers license. I can't drive it on public roads without both of those, but on my own property is fine, and no one can say otherwise.

Fair enough on point 2, but in 1792 no-one complained about the registration and inspection of weapons. Why now?

Sailor Steve · 01-03-13, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

Fair enough on point 2, but in 1792 no-one complained about the registration and inspection of weapons. Why now?

Because they were being ordered to own weapons, and they thought that was a good idea. Now the idea is to take the weapons away, and we think that's a bad idea. As for registration, that is a conundrum. If the point is to know who the government can rely on in a call-up, registration seems like a good idea to the gun owner. When the point is to know whose door to knock on when the government wants to collect guns, registration seems like a bad idea.

I've know people who refused to join the NRA on the principle that if any State or Federal agency did decide to start confiscating guns, they would likely start by finding a judge who would demand the NRA hand over the rolls.

01-04-13, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Because they were being ordered to own weapons, and they thought that was a good idea. As for registration, that is a conundrum.

If they were ordered then they were regulated and registered, after all if the people are ordered to keep a longarm with 50m bullets and a horn of powder and fowling pieces don't count then they are touiching all the bases for the 2nd allowing strict regulation on that which it covers.

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Now the idea is to take the weapons away, and we think that's a bad idea.

The idea is to restrict ownership of some weapons isn't it, plus take them away from people you all seem to agree shouldn't be allowed weapons.

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If the point is to know who the government can rely on in a call-up, registration seems like a good idea to the gun owner. When the point is to know whose door to knock on when the government wants to collect guns, registration seems like a bad idea.

Yet the same people who say it is a bad idea are unable to defend it when the government has failed to remove guns from people they agree shouldn't have guns.

Sailor Steve · 01-04-13, 11:35 AM

I was merely answering TarJak's question of why gun owners wouldn't complain then but would complain now. Your attempts to drag me into another point-by-point fail.

Platapus · 01-04-13, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I've know people who refused to join the NRA on the principle that if any State or Federal agency did decide to start confiscating guns, they would likely start by finding a judge who would demand the NRA hand over the rolls.

I never understood those people who are so afraid that the government will take away their guns, but then create a papertrail like that.

Does the NRA still sell insurance where you had to list the guns you wanted to insure?

Jimbuna · 01-04-13, 05:28 PM

Things are becoming a little stale me thinks

August · 01-04-13, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

I never understood those people who are so afraid that the government will take away their guns, but then create a papertrail like that.

Does the NRA still sell insurance where you had to list the guns you wanted to insure?

Just because someone is an NRA member doesn't mean they actually own firearms.

Platapus · 01-03-13, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

2. I can indeed own a car, without registration or a drivers license. I can't drive it on public roads without both of those, but on my own property is fine, and no one can say otherwise.

That is a very important point that some tend to forget.

Skybird · 01-03-13, 07:09 PM

Love the sword, die by the sword.

That is not just true for individuals, but also for societies and cultures. You reap what you sow.

Cybermat47 · 01-04-13, 12:40 AM

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Love the sword, die by the sword.

That is not just true for individuals, but also for societies and cultures. You reap what you sow.

Good point, that.

I might make it my signature on another forum!

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I was merely answering TarJak's question of why gun owners wouldn't complain then but would complain now. Your attempts to drag me into another point-by-point fail. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,844 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Things are becoming a little stale me thinks __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-03-13, 07:09 PM	#12
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,707 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Love the sword, die by the sword. That is not just true for individuals, but also for societies and cultures. You reap what you sow. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.