Signature sizes and smooth sailing

Herr-Berbunch · 08-22-12, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Technically speaking it's more than five times the 200 KB file size limit.

Fixed

It doesn't affect me when I'm on a PC, but if I use my phone (often) it can be a bit annoying. I think the current rules are fine, with some slight moderator leeway - particularly if it's a subsim* related pic, less so if it is political or a. n. other.

*and obviously flight sim

Edit - the only gif I don't find annoying when it's repeated on a page is Steve's cat one.

Takeda Shingen · 08-22-12, 10:28 AM

I don't think that any of us want to go around with calipers, so to speak. Unless a signature is high or wide enough to make reading problematic, I don't really care too much. File size is a different matter, however. Too many large files used as signatures do make an impact on the loading of the threads. A 1 MB signature is obnoxiously large in that aspect. Imagine if everyone had one.

Jimbuna · 08-22-12, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I don't think that any of us want to go around with calipers, so to speak. Unless a signature is high or wide enough to make reading problematic, I don't really care too much. File size is a different matter, however. Too many large files used as signatures do make an impact on the loading of the threads. A 1 MB signature is obnoxiously large in that aspect. Imagine if everyone had one.

Aye that...in fact the current allowance is quite generous IMO...the other two forums I frequent have bigger restrictions.

mookiemookie · 08-22-12, 10:28 AM

Sig file size never bothered me much, but I guess that's because everyone around here kept them smallish. Big huge images that take up 60% of the screen are annoying though.

I'm more concerned with the part that says

"Sigs that are political or religous in nature may only be displayed in General Topics. Only naval-oriented sigs are allowed in the naval and game forums."

So if you were to take a strict interpretation of that rule, my sig would be out of bounds for posting in General Games discussion? There's no real way to enforce this. You can't have two sigs at once, and your old posts update with your new signature when you change it. So I can't have a SH3 signature, post something in the SH3 forum, then jump back over to GT, change my sig and post there. All my posts will reflect my current sig.

I understand the spirit of the rule, but there's some practical problems with its execution.

Takeda Shingen · 08-22-12, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

"Sigs that are political or religous in nature may only be displayed in General Topics. Only naval-oriented sigs are allowed in the naval and game forums."

My interpretation has been that a general statement is permissible while a specific statement is not. By that I mean the following.

Permissible:

Government is best which governs least - Henry David Thoreau

Not permissible:

Never vote Libertarian. They are destroying America.

In that aspect, your signature is fine. There are some, however, that need to reevaluate their sigs in that regard.

TheDarkWraith · 08-22-12, 10:57 AM

do you not have the option to disable signatures? For some reason I think you can turn them off in your settings

Brandmon · 08-22-12, 11:15 AM

Regarding size, I think it affects to those who have weaker computers and smaller resolutions which, while a minority these days, need to be considered. Rule of thumb in my opinion is that if a sig is longer than an averagely small post, it is too long. And if the sig is wider than the resolution of smaller monitors (yes, some still use 800x600 resolutions), then it is too wide. So I think the 220x640 limit for sigs is very reasonable and should be kept that way. Same for the size, especially regarding .gifs, since 10 of them at the same page could easily grind weaker PCs to a halt.

Cybermat47 · 08-23-12, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandmon

Regarding size, I think it affects to those who have weaker computers and smaller resolutions which, while a minority these days, need to be considered. Rule of thumb in my opinion is that if a sig is longer than an averagely small post, it is too long. And if the sig is wider than the resolution of smaller monitors (yes, some still use 800x600 resolutions), then it is too wide. So I think the 220x640 limit for sigs is very reasonable and should be kept that way. Same for the size, especially regarding .gifs, since 10 of them at the same page could easily grind weaker PCs to a halt.

Thanks for thinking of me!

mookiemookie · 08-22-12, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

There are some, however, that need to reevaluate their sigs in that regard.

I think I know exactly who you're referring to.

kranz · 08-22-12, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

My interpretation has been that a general statement is permissible while a specific statement is not. By that I mean the following.

Not permissible:

Never vote Libertarian. They are destroying America.

In that aspect, your signature is fine. There are some, however, that need to reevaluate their sigs in that regard.

I vote for establishing a SubSim Signature Council TM that would decide which sigs are permissible and which are not.

Possible members of the Council: Skybird, Tribesman, Takeda (?)
Possible rules of proceeding: verdicts must be reached unanimously (

)

I remember that Xabbarus gave me infractions once for some socio-economic sentence. The only problem was that it was uttered by Hitler.
I agree that any offensive, inappropriate, abusive sigs should be removed but c'mon...

u crank · 08-22-12, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kranz

I vote for establishing a SubSim Signature Council TM that would decide which sigs are permissible and which are not.

Possible members of the Council: Skybird, Tribesman, Takeda (?)
Possible rules of proceeding: verdicts must be reached unanimously (

I'd pay a quarter to see that.

nikimcbee · 08-22-12, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kranz

I vote for establishing a SubSim Signature Council TM that would decide which sigs are permissible and which are not.

Possible members of the Council: Skybird, Tribesman, Takeda (?)
Possible rules of proceeding: verdicts must be reached unanimously (

)

I remember that Xabbarus gave me infractions once for some socio-economic sentence. The only problem was that it was uttered by Hitler.
I agree that any offensive, inappropriate, abusive sigs should be removed but c'mon...

Here's the process:

Dowly · 08-22-12, 03:31 PM

Only the sigs that are waaaaaay over the size limit bother me.

Takeda Shingen · 08-22-12, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kranz

I vote for establishing a SubSim Signature Council TM that would decide which sigs are permissible and which are not.

Possible members of the Council: Skybird, Tribesman, Takeda (?)
Possible rules of proceeding: verdicts must be reached unanimously (

)

I remember that Xabbarus gave me infractions once for some socio-economic sentence. The only problem was that it was uttered by Hitler.
I agree that any offensive, inappropriate, abusive sigs should be removed but c'mon...

I think you should be on the council. You seem to have all the answers.

FYI, number of signature infractions given by Takeda: Zero.

kranz · 08-22-12, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I think you should be on the council. You seem to have all the answers.

Thank you. I'll do my best

(puts on Roland Freisler's hat)

View Poll Results: Do signature sizes affect you?
Not at all	62	43.06%
Once in a while a sig is so big it's a problem	57	39.58%
Frequently a sig is so big it's a problem	3	2.08%
Constantly: big sigs have to go. Stay within the limits.	22	15.28%
Voters: 144. You may not vote on this poll

08-22-12, 10:28 AM	#4
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Sig file size never bothered me much, but I guess that's because everyone around here kept them smallish. Big huge images that take up 60% of the screen are annoying though. I'm more concerned with the part that says "Sigs that are political or religous in nature may only be displayed in General Topics. Only naval-oriented sigs are allowed in the naval and game forums." So if you were to take a strict interpretation of that rule, my sig would be out of bounds for posting in General Games discussion? There's no real way to enforce this. You can't have two sigs at once, and your old posts update with your new signature when you change it. So I can't have a SH3 signature, post something in the SH3 forum, then jump back over to GT, change my sig and post there. All my posts will reflect my current sig. I understand the spirit of the rule, but there's some practical problems with its execution. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

08-22-12, 10:28 AM	#2
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I don't think that any of us want to go around with calipers, so to speak. Unless a signature is high or wide enough to make reading problematic, I don't really care too much. File size is a different matter, however. Too many large files used as signatures do make an impact on the loading of the threads. A 1 MB signature is obnoxiously large in that aspect. Imagine if everyone had one.

08-22-12, 10:57 AM	#6
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	do you not have the option to disable signatures? For some reason I think you can turn them off in your settings

08-22-12, 11:15 AM	#7
Brandmon Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 9 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Regarding size, I think it affects to those who have weaker computers and smaller resolutions which, while a minority these days, need to be considered. Rule of thumb in my opinion is that if a sig is longer than an averagely small post, it is too long. And if the sig is wider than the resolution of smaller monitors (yes, some still use 800x600 resolutions), then it is too wide. So I think the 220x640 limit for sigs is very reasonable and should be kept that way. Same for the size, especially regarding .gifs, since 10 of them at the same page could easily grind weaker PCs to a halt.

08-22-12, 03:31 PM	#13
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Only the sigs that are waaaaaay over the size limit bother me.