Dog reunited with owner after 53 days in the desert

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Kind of throws away the theory that dogs are so domesticated they can't survive without us.
Maybe, but they're just to smart not to handle themselves.

That dog should be renamed to Garmin or Bear (Gryls)

Eating non-moving carcasses and drinking from equally non-moving (hopefully)
source of water doesn't exactly say much about how this or that animal could
survive in the wild.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Eating non-moving carcasses and drinking from equally non-moving (hopefully)

Drinking from a moving water source (stream) is preferable
Unless you meant chasing a camel

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Drinking from a moving water source (stream) is preferable
Unless you meant chasing a camel

I was referring to the water source mentioned in the article, which I assume would
be static. Unless it was so dirty that it had developed a consciousness.

[Jimbuna]

Nice one August

[August]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Drinking from a moving water source (stream) is preferable

That's interesting as I have heard the exact opposite. Moving water carries sediment and other particles which in standing water have a chance to settle to the bottom.

[Dowly]

Nah, stagnant water is definitely the worse option because bacteria etc. have
better surrounding to get jiggy with each other and have little bacteria babbies.

[Ducimus]

While all Dog's DNA shows trace their lineage back to the Grey Wolf, they are really their own species now. They've made their nitch in a Human environment. Their species is very much intertwined with ours. Sure they can go feral, but they don't do very well without us. Also, how smart they are, and how they behave, and how easy they can adapt, is basically how we (humans), made them to be.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by August

That's interesting as I have heard the exact opposite. Moving water carries sediment and other particles which in standing water have a chance to settle to the bottom.

Depends on the source of the water. If you drink from a moutain of forrest stream those particles are harmless minerals. And some biological stuff that can get jiggy in standing water, to quote Dowly.

Whether a more urban source of water thats purified and chlorined but carries with it glassfibers or plastic or any other household insulation (lets say after a disaster) a standing water source would be preffered for the reasons you pointed put.

[nikimcbee]

The dog was lucky a coyote didn't eat him first.

[USS Drum]

Dooley? Does that have any relation to Dowly?

[August]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Depends on the source of the water. If you drink from a moutain of forrest stream those particles are harmless minerals. And some biological stuff that can get jiggy in standing water, to quote Dowly.

Whether a more urban source of water thats purified and chlorined but carries with it glassfibers or plastic or any other household insulation (lets say after a disaster) a standing water source would be preffered for the reasons you pointed put.

Yeah as I figured it's not as simple as Dowly implies. For example stream water can also suspend Guardia.

Deep areas of large lakes may be one of the safest places to fill your bottles. Furtman recommends staying away from shorelines or streams, unless the water is going to be boiled for cooking, because beavers travel there and moving water can suspend Giardia.

http://bwca.cc/tripplanning/waterfiltration.htm

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by August

Yeah as I figured it's not as simple as Dowly implies. For example stream water can also suspend Guardia.


http://bwca.cc/tripplanning/waterfiltration.htm

Said page also says what I said (like, right above the bit you quoted ):

And pass on stagnant water, Jordan advises. ''Stagnant water, standing water
with no influent or effluent streams to replenish the source, is certainly a
candidate for chemical treatment. So are waters that are rich in suspended
solids, like algae-rich and silt- or clay-rich waters.''

Of course, if you have the equipment, you can drink from pretty much any source.
But if you suddenly find yourself in a situation where you need to survive, like
the doggie in the OP, I'd suggest using a moving water source as drinking water.

[August]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Said page also says what I said (like, right above the bit you quoted ):
Of course, if you have the equipment, you can drink from pretty much any source.
But if you suddenly find yourself in a situation where you need to survive, like
the doggie in the OP, I'd suggest using a moving water source as drinking water.

Well I was speaking in general terms but in the case of that lost dog it's not like he's going to have much choice in water sources. Besides outside of the desert there aren't too many ponds or lakes that don't have an influent or effluent steam connected to it.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Eating non-moving carcasses and drinking from equally non-moving (hopefully)source of water doesn't exactly say much about how this or that animal could survive in the wild.

One of our adopters lost an adult Shih Tzu just before the winter of 2011. She lost the dog about three days after adopting it so the dog had no chance of establishing any bond with the woman nor the location so this little dog was not only lost but disoriented.

Then the ice storms came. We were out looking for this dog for weeks. I really had no hope for it. A little domesticated dog like this outside in bitterly cold weather. Not looking good

The dog was found, about a month after being lost, a few miles from its home, near a farm. This little cute dog was surviving by hunting chickens which were not only bigger but out weighed the dog.

Wow. Instincts dormant for hundreds of generations, still worked when needed.

It was a happy ending to a very sad story. The dog is with another owner and is doing well. The new owner was the lady who was originally fostering it for our rescue and is very experienced with dogs. She told me she had to undergo a little re-domestication training with the Shih Tzu to get it back to being a pet and not a hunter.

Dogs, gots to love em.

[August]

Then there are the sled dogs that were abandoned in the Antarctic for an entire year. Although only 2 of the 15 survived the mortality rate was certainly increased because the dogs were left chained up. That any survived at all is a testament to a dogs survival ability.