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August 03-05-12 12:01 PM

Dog reunited with owner after 53 days in the desert
 
Feel good story of the day!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/05...nevada-desert/

Quote:

RENO, Nev. – Barbara Bagley says she never gave up hope that her dog would be found alive in the Nevada desert after the animal bolted from the scene of a crash that critically injured her and killed her husband. But the Salt Lake City woman endured plenty of frustration until her beloved 4-year-old Shetland sheepdog, Dooley, was tracked down Feb.18 after surviving 53 days in the wild on roadkill and scattered ranch water sources.

Betonov 03-05-12 12:56 PM

Kind of throws away the theory that dogs are so domesticated they can't survive without us.
Maybe, but they're just to smart not to handle themselves.

That dog should be renamed to Garmin or Bear (Gryls) :DL

Dowly 03-05-12 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1850170)
Kind of throws away the theory that dogs are so domesticated they can't survive without us.
Maybe, but they're just to smart not to handle themselves.

That dog should be renamed to Garmin or Bear (Gryls) :DL

Eating non-moving carcasses and drinking from equally non-moving (hopefully)
source of water doesn't exactly say much about how this or that animal could
survive in the wild. ;)

Betonov 03-05-12 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1850177)
Eating non-moving carcasses and drinking from equally non-moving (hopefully)

Drinking from a moving water source (stream) is preferable :DL
Unless you meant chasing a camel :DL

Dowly 03-05-12 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1850183)
Drinking from a moving water source (stream) is preferable :DL
Unless you meant chasing a camel :DL

I was referring to the water source mentioned in the article, which I assume would
be static. Unless it was so dirty that it had developed a consciousness. :O:

Jimbuna 03-05-12 01:15 PM

Nice one August :sunny:

August 03-05-12 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1850183)
Drinking from a moving water source (stream) is preferable :DL

That's interesting as I have heard the exact opposite. Moving water carries sediment and other particles which in standing water have a chance to settle to the bottom.

Dowly 03-05-12 02:31 PM

Nah, stagnant water is definitely the worse option because bacteria etc. have
better surrounding to get jiggy with each other and have little bacteria babbies. :yep:

Ducimus 03-05-12 03:05 PM

While all Dog's DNA shows trace their lineage back to the Grey Wolf, they are really their own species now. They've made their nitch in a Human environment. Their species is very much intertwined with ours. Sure they can go feral, but they don't do very well without us. Also, how smart they are, and how they behave, and how easy they can adapt, is basically how we (humans), made them to be.

Betonov 03-05-12 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 1850233)
That's interesting as I have heard the exact opposite. Moving water carries sediment and other particles which in standing water have a chance to settle to the bottom.

Depends on the source of the water. If you drink from a moutain of forrest stream those particles are harmless minerals. And some biological stuff that can get jiggy in standing water, to quote Dowly.

Whether a more urban source of water thats purified and chlorined but carries with it glassfibers or plastic or any other household insulation (lets say after a disaster) a standing water source would be preffered for the reasons you pointed put.

nikimcbee 03-06-12 09:38 AM

The dog was lucky a coyote didn't eat him first.

USS Drum 03-07-12 12:42 AM

Dooley? Does that have any relation to Dowly?

August 03-07-12 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1850301)
Depends on the source of the water. If you drink from a moutain of forrest stream those particles are harmless minerals. And some biological stuff that can get jiggy in standing water, to quote Dowly.

Whether a more urban source of water thats purified and chlorined but carries with it glassfibers or plastic or any other household insulation (lets say after a disaster) a standing water source would be preffered for the reasons you pointed put.

Yeah as I figured it's not as simple as Dowly implies. For example stream water can also suspend Guardia.

Quote:

Deep areas of large lakes may be one of the safest places to fill your bottles. Furtman recommends staying away from shorelines or streams, unless the water is going to be boiled for cooking, because beavers travel there and moving water can suspend Giardia.
http://bwca.cc/tripplanning/waterfiltration.htm

Dowly 03-07-12 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 1851202)
Yeah as I figured it's not as simple as Dowly implies. For example stream water can also suspend Guardia.


http://bwca.cc/tripplanning/waterfiltration.htm

Said page also says what I said (like, right above the bit you quoted :O:):
Quote:

And pass on stagnant water, Jordan advises. ''Stagnant water, standing water
with no influent or effluent streams to replenish the source, is certainly a
candidate for chemical treatment. So are waters that are rich in suspended
solids, like algae-rich and silt- or clay-rich waters.''

Of course, if you have the equipment, you can drink from pretty much any source.
But if you suddenly find yourself in a situation where you need to survive, like
the doggie in the OP, I'd suggest using a moving water source as drinking water. :yep:

August 03-07-12 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1851233)
Said page also says what I said (like, right above the bit you quoted :O:):
Of course, if you have the equipment, you can drink from pretty much any source.
But if you suddenly find yourself in a situation where you need to survive, like
the doggie in the OP, I'd suggest using a moving water source as drinking water. :yep:

Well I was speaking in general terms but in the case of that lost dog it's not like he's going to have much choice in water sources. Besides outside of the desert there aren't too many ponds or lakes that don't have an influent or effluent steam connected to it.


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