Deck Gun

Jimbuna · 08-28-11, 04:48 PM

The deck gun can be useful in finishing off the mortally wounded thereby saving you an eel or two but come mid 41 (even earlier for some merchantmen) don't ever lose sight of the fact your boat was intended to be used aggressively under the waters surface and is quite vulnerable to shellfire whilst surfaced.

Did anyone mention the Q Ships?

frau kaleun · 08-28-11, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Did anyone mention the Q Ships?

Just like a man, they never listen.

(See my post directly above yours, big fella.

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Wreford-Brown · 08-28-11, 05:05 PM

I always carry the deck gun and will use it to finish off ships even late in the war. I also surprised myself a couple of weeks ago (after being forced to surface by damage) by sinking a Flower class. Third round hit the main gun, fifth or sixth took out the secondaries and I could sink it at my leisure. The deck gun became my new best friend!

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Did anyone mention the Q Ships?

I prefer to call them the $£%^&%^$ Q-ships. Bloody things still surprise me even now, but I can't bring myself to disable your mod.

Jimbuna · 08-28-11, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Just like a man, they never listen.

(See my post directly above yours, big fella.

)

No need....my comment was in direct reference to what you posted

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Originally Posted by Wreford-Brown

I always carry the deck gun and will use it to finish off ships even late in the war. I also surprised myself a couple of weeks ago (after being forced to surface by damage) by sinking a Flower class. Third round hit the main gun, fifth or sixth took out the secondaries and I could sink it at my leisure. The deck gun became my new best friend!

I prefer to call them the $£%^&%^$ Q-ships. Bloody things still surprise me even now, but I can't bring myself to disable your mod.

Good to see you around D

Wreford-Brown · 08-28-11, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Good to see you around D

Good to be around!

frau kaleun · 08-28-11, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wreford-Brown

I prefer to call them the $£%^&%^$ Q-ships. Bloody things still surprise me even now, but I can't bring myself to disable your mod.

Same here. And I always forget about them until I disable a ship with a torpedo hit and then surface to finish it off with the gun, only to find shells whistling over my head and all the LI screaming at me about damage.

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

No need....my comment was in direct reference to what you posted

Jimbuna · 08-28-11, 06:44 PM

Might be an idea to do a few different skins

Raptor · 08-28-11, 06:45 PM

I wasn't aware the deck gun could be removed. How is that done?

Wreford-Brown · 08-28-11, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor

I wasn't aware the deck gun could be removed. How is that done?

SH3 Commander can get rid of it for you.

Obltn Strand · 08-29-11, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

The deck gun can be useful in finishing off the mortally wounded thereby saving you an eel or two but come mid 41 (even earlier for some merchantmen) don't ever lose sight of the fact your boat was intended to be used aggressively under the waters surface and is quite vulnerable to shellfire whilst surfaced.

That's why I stopped excessive deck gunning. When small, "easy" targets not worth an eel suddenly opens fire with two cannons + flak, one torpedo is small price compared to damage it can cause.

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Did anyone mention the Q Ships?

Haven't encounterd them bastards yet. I wait wth anticipation.

Missing Name · 08-29-11, 05:56 AM

Q Ships are nasty surprises. They look exactly like tramp steamers...

Sailor Steve · 08-29-11, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Missing Name

Q Ships are nasty surprises. They look exactly like tramp steamers...

In real life there was more variety. There was even one tanker converted to a Q-ship.
http://www.history.navy.mil/docs/wwi...#anchor1530236

JazzJR · 08-29-11, 12:43 PM

But in WW2 the most Q Ships were sunk by german U-Boats. They didn't sunk any U-Boat but three of five Q-Ships were sunk by the U-Boats.

Sailor Steve · 08-29-11, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JazzJR

But in WW2 the most Q Ships were sunk by german U-Boats. They didn't sunk any U-Boat but three of five Q-Ships were sunk by the U-Boats.

"Three of five"? The British commissioned nine Q-ships in 1939. Three were sunk, two in 1940 and the third in 1942 while in French service, and after the Royal Navy had abandoned the program. The US Navy commissioned five Q-ships, of which one was sunk.

Q-ships only work when the submarine policy is to board and search ships and then sink them with scuttling charges. If the policy is to torpedo them while submerged, then no, they have no real value. If you're going to make a surfaced attack against a lone merchant, then the Q-ship can be troublesome. But then so can an armed merchant, which is why Q-ships were eventually dropped.

Jimbuna · 08-29-11, 01:04 PM

Q Ships in WWII

American

http://www.history.navy.mil/docs/wwii/Q-ships.htm

British

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q-ship

08-28-11, 04:48 PM	#1
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,818 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The deck gun can be useful in finishing off the mortally wounded thereby saving you an eel or two but come mid 41 (even earlier for some merchantmen) don't ever lose sight of the fact your boat was intended to be used aggressively under the waters surface and is quite vulnerable to shellfire whilst surfaced. Did anyone mention the Q Ships? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-28-11, 06:44 PM	#7
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,818 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Might be an idea to do a few different skins __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-28-11, 06:45 PM	#8
Raptor Weps Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pacific NW, USA Posts: 350 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	I wasn't aware the deck gun could be removed. How is that done? __________________ Raptor

08-29-11, 05:56 AM	#11
Missing Name Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Westun New Yahk Posts: 748 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	Q Ships are nasty surprises. They look exactly like tramp steamers... __________________ Largest target sunk with deck gun: Japanese auxiliary cruiser, 15000 tons Largest engaged: HMS Nelson. Results inconclusive. Read Brag's stuff

08-29-11, 12:43 PM	#13
JazzJR Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Germany - Berlin Posts: 263 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 0	But in WW2 the most Q Ships were sunk by german U-Boats. They didn't sunk any U-Boat but three of five Q-Ships were sunk by the U-Boats. __________________

08-29-11, 01:04 PM	#15
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,818 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Q Ships in WWII American http://www.history.navy.mil/docs/wwii/Q-ships.htm British http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q-ship __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!