Tuition hike protesters attack car carrying Prince Charles, Camilla

[robbo180265]

Also - the attack on Charles and Camila was bad , but ask yourselves - if you were in charge of security, and those two were travelling through London during a protest that was allegedly of a violent nature, would you allow them to travel by car? Would you allow them straight through the route of the protesters?

[jumpy]

^^

Apparently it's not that simple

i heard the Commissioner of police on the radio this morning who was saying that the only reason that they employ "containment" tactics is to pacify the crowd.

Havn't they shown time and time again that their "containment" policies actually cause trouble.

The "kid with brain damage" actually had a stroke because of the attack on him with a truncheon

At least thats an improvement, last time the British police really publicly screwed someone over with a truncheon it wasn't even a protester, it was just some bloke on his way home who ended up dead.

[robbo180265]

As to the date of the next protest I'm not too sure Oberon, I will ask him and report back here.

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Havn't they shown time and time again that their "containment" policies actually cause trouble.

The cynic in me suspects that was the whole point of the containment, add to that a particulaly juicy target sent right through the angry mob and......

Voila! - Bad press!

The cynic in me suspects that was the whole point of the containment, add to that a particulaly juicy target sent right through the angry mob and......

Well there could be that, but the royal inspectorsof constabulary put problems down to lack of leardership, lack of training/incorrect training and ignorance of the law(which is funny as enforcing law is pretty much the entire job description so ignorance of the law should be a sackable offence).
I am reminded of that comedian doing his London McProtests, he had a proper policeman with him to stop the police who didn't know the laws from trying to arrest him

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Havn't they shown time and time again that their "containment" policies actually cause trouble.

containment policies do. They provoke violence. I remember a huge party at Western Michigan University that the police decided to surround, posturing for some kind of a "show of force". Some kid threw a bottle and it went from there. Tear gas, Mace, Pepper-spray paint balls...the whole 9 yards.

but we were just partying, you brits are clearly having your rights trodden on.

Which brits gimpy?

[gimpy117]

the students

[robbo180265]

Tbh all of us.

The majority of voters no-longer have a party to vote for. British politics have gone the way of American politics, in that you can vote middle, right or far right. This means that the majority of voters no-longer vote, which is worrying as it allows parties like the BNP to gain ground.

[Oberon]

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/201...e_protest.html

Some more pictures of the day.

[SteamWake]

Why riot over something silly like tuition. Here in the US we do it over serious stuff... like bathrooms !!

“What happened was two students started fighting, and the principal got mad, and closed all the bathrooms, and then all the kids went crazy and just started a riot,” one student said.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/12/...c-high-school/

Im not making light of the UK's plight. Rather I am pointing out how easy this kind of thing could get started in the US. Wait till they start messing with medicare and pensions

[Armistead]

About everything our government has done the last 30 years is to create a two class society, educatin will now become a part of that process. Same thing happening to GB. We've created a system to allow corporations to build massive wealth with no real benefit to America as a whole. The corporations strip the dollar and use it to buy real assets, then expect the government to bail them out with money, unfair regulation, tax codes, trade, ect..and do it again.

The majority of Americans can't afford college. Most students in high school don't use the same repetitive crap they learn the last 2-3 years. They should turn high schools into trade and business schools and give them skills they can use.

[STEED]

To all British students, politicians no longer represent us they legislate us.

And it will get worst, sorry to say.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Ironically the tories are to blame for all this.

Back when they were last in power in this great effort to show that the UK was a leading educational establishment they decided to allow polytechnics and other colleges that were perfectly good in their role as vocational educational establishments become universities. Therefore there were more institutions chasing the same amount of money, coupled with the fact that it was now derigeur for everyone to go to university as that is how we have been conditioned. Therefore, more uni's, more students, less money.

The quality of these new unis is debatable and has led to the rise of degree course such as "media studies", "sanitation and hygiene" which I am not joking is a bin man's course. Now with every tom dick and harry having a degree it has been devalued, therefore the leading institutions want to maintain their status as they do leading research, therefore need more money.

So, do you guys have a feminist studies program? Does the UK higher ed/ uni system waste as much money on sports as the US does?