Is the sim genre dead?

Yosarian · 08-02-10, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Will-Rommel

That was harsh and totally unecessary if you ask me, but i guess every one can have his opinions.

The gaming-industry is not a cuddle zoo!

Takeda Shingen · 08-02-10, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Yosarian

The gaming-industry is not a cuddle zoo!

And SubSim is not a mudpit. The comment in question was out of line.

Jimbuna · 08-02-10, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

And SubSim is not a mudpit. The comment in question was out of line.

Agrees....could also be interpreted as a personal attack

robbo180265 · 08-02-10, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

And SubSim is not a mudpit. The comment in question was out of line.

For what it's worth - I agree too. His statement was completely out of line

elanaiba · 08-02-10, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by robbo180265

For what it's worth - I agree too. His statement was completely out of line

While I appreciate the support, its just an opinion after all.

We're talking about something hypothetical after all, and in that hypothesis we can agree that if no-one from Ubi would be involved, there would be positives:
-a new team and creative vision can bring a different approach, different path, instead of going the same old routes
-possibility of having TWO subsims developed and competing against each other, instead of the current status quo - you like SH or not, its the only game in town.

Ducimus · 08-02-10, 03:55 PM

Personally, i have the distinct impression submarine sim's are a generational thing. A small corner of a nitch market. The games industry isn't a public service, they're there to make big bucks. Walk into any store that still sells PC games, and it isn't hard to see what type of games move past the cash register.

There was a time when there were a few sub sims to choose from.... way back in the AOD, SH1 days, and the couple of "me too" clones they inspired. But the way things are now, ill wager that if no more submarine sims were ever made again, the only group (a small group in the big scheme of things) who would notice is the subsim.com community. The majority of game players and makers would not notice, nor would care.

In this respect, SH5 had the right idea to get a little (or alot) more RPGish. SH5 NEEDED to draw more people to the genre to draw interest to the genre in order to keep it alive. If it weren't released with so many bugs, an saddled with the DRM, it may have succeeded. But it didn't.

I for one, do not expect to see ANY more sub sim's for a VERY long time. Maybe even never again.

JScones · 08-03-10, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

There was a time when there were a few sub sims to choose from.... way back in the AOD, SH1 days, and the couple of "me too" clones they inspired. But the way things are now, ill wager that if no more submarine sims were ever made again, the only group (a small group in the big scheme of things) who would notice is the subsim.com community. The majority of game players and makers would not notice, nor would care.

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I for one, do not expect to see ANY more sub sim's for a VERY long time. Maybe even never again.

Here's where I think the future of "subsims" is...

http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/110/1103627p1.html

JScones · 08-03-10, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by elanaiba

We're talking about something hypothetical after all, and in that hypothesis we can agree that if no-one from Ubi would be involved, there would be positives:
-a new team and creative vision can bring a different approach, different path, instead of going the same old routes
-possibility of having TWO subsims developed and competing against each other, instead of the current status quo - you like SH or not, its the only game in town.

You know, whilst I agree 100%, I can't help but think that had anyone else made the same post, there'd be at least five "you're wrong" (and one "your wrong") posts made by now.

Just a random observation.

robbo180265 · 08-03-10, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

You know, whilst I agree 100%, I can't help but think that had anyone else made the same post, there'd be at least five "you're wrong" (and one "your wrong") posts made by now.

Just a random observation.

your wrong....

JScones · 08-03-10, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by robbo180265

your wrong....

Arclight · 08-03-10, 02:56 AM

Maybe. I'm not sure the team would decide to pursue his vision. I don't think having Dan on that team would exclude either of the 2 options.

JU_88 · 08-04-10, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JScones

You know, whilst I agree 100%, I can't help but think that had anyone else made the same post, there'd be at least five "you're wrong" (and one "your wrong") posts made by now.

Just a random observation.

About as 'random' as a 'random' airport security check on vagually middle-eastern looking guy.

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Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Maybe. I'm not sure the team would decide to pursue his vision. I don't think having Dan on that team would exclude either of the 2 options. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

08-02-10, 03:55 PM	#6
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Personally, i have the distinct impression submarine sim's are a generational thing. A small corner of a nitch market. The games industry isn't a public service, they're there to make big bucks. Walk into any store that still sells PC games, and it isn't hard to see what type of games move past the cash register. There was a time when there were a few sub sims to choose from.... way back in the AOD, SH1 days, and the couple of "me too" clones they inspired. But the way things are now, ill wager that if no more submarine sims were ever made again, the only group (a small group in the big scheme of things) who would notice is the subsim.com community. The majority of game players and makers would not notice, nor would care. In this respect, SH5 had the right idea to get a little (or alot) more RPGish. SH5 NEEDED to draw more people to the genre to draw interest to the genre in order to keep it alive. If it weren't released with so many bugs, an saddled with the DRM, it may have succeeded. But it didn't. I for one, do not expect to see ANY more sub sim's for a VERY long time. Maybe even never again.