German Police Arrest man with "Hitlermobil"

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

I, for one, am tired of seeing Germany sit on the stool of eternal guilt for this whole "Nazi" thing. Seriously. Yes, the Nazis were evil and yes, what they did to the Jews was atrocious, but I didn't see an army of Jews descending upon Rwanda to stop the genocide there, so I guess they're not sore about it anymore. I know it's hard, being Germans and all, but you guys can relax now. Nobody in their right minds really believes all that BS propaganda the rest of the world had to manufacture to justify going to war with you to save the military dictatorship of Poland so we could hand it over to the Soviets later. God forbid that Germany annex a city of Germans who wanted to be reunified anyway Heck, I bet there are a number of Eastern European states who wish you had won the war. At the outset, a lot of other western nations were also hoping that Germany would win out against the Soviets.

In any case, nobody who matters has anything against you. It's nice that you're all anti-nazi, but let's not abridge free speech and natural human rights out of guilt. All those neo-nazis ever do is make fools out of themselves, anyway. The war is over, you're still a great country, let's all move on, shall we? The rest of us could use a little traditional Prussian military excellence in beating some sense into the jihadists.

While I know what you mean with Germany hiding over an excuse of being guilty, nevertheless confronting Nazism has nothing to do with guilt, but understanding what it is. I don'T agree often with August, but as I said: where he is right, he's right. I have absolutely no problem with freedom of speech - and nevertheless kicking the sh!t out of every Nazi or Islamist there is. Indeed, only a dead Nazi is a Nazi that can be tolerated. i say that loud and clear, and I do not care fpor people beign irritated and yelling out loud. Nazism should not be considered to be something that eventually, under some circumstances, you can get an arrangement with. Nazism is cultural hydrophobia. kill it wereever you find it, without remors, regret or hesitation - kill it. My tolerance for the existence of others ends where the others do not tolerate me. My willingness for free speech ends were the others use free speech to directly or indirectly demand or support the abandoning of free speech. Our constitution sees it the way I just put it in words. I want to remind you all that certain parts of the constitution of Germany were formed and formulated under massive influence and advise and demand by the allied victors, namely America and France.

Some of the absolutist claims made in this thread are hair-raisingly absurd, and hilarious, and insane. I am aware of politicians trying to gaggle media or to intimidate wistleblowers, that is not only A problem with the EU and the German govenrment only , but maybe an even greater problem with the American government. First the new legal rules by Bush to fight against wistleblowers and limit the press' access to insiders giving precious information, now Obama systematically deleting any non-systematical, well-organised statement or press conference, keeping the press away from anything worth to be reported as best as he can, passing rules to keep yournalists from any scnee of tjhe crime so that any falure or helpless ness by the adminstration cannot be oberseved and reported on. before the election, he did spontanous remarks and speeches without preparation. Now he does not even reply to a schoolkid without reading question and reply from the teleprompter. What a blender.

Some American voices in this thread may want to consider the poor state of their own house before continuing to bash Germany over rules we have considering "Volksverhetzung". We are anti-Nazi over here because by own experience we Germans know bettet than anyone else what Nazism means, with the expection of Jews.