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Old 07-07-10, 06:47 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter View Post
It's amusing how the Germans, in their attempts to supress the memory of Nazism in Germany, have themselves become Nazis.
<polemic mode on>
and now Ladies and Gentleman: we have a winner in Godwin's Law! Shall the calling each other "Nazi" begin?
*my right arm raises because as a German I cannot stop it*
From your signature I see that you are an US army veteran, does this make you a Nazi too? Regarding that the Nazi-US army together with other Nazi armys and Nazi-resistance fighters suppressed the poor Nazis?
</polemic mode off>

First of all: The guy, who had the Hitler-ringtone on his cell, will probably get not more than a fine, no jail time, no star on his jacket, no torture, no extermination, see the difference?
Second: I think the memory of Nazism in Germany is quite alive and healthy. You can inform yourself going to museums, memorial sites, talking to people who actually lived in this time.
Third: You can march and hail all you want in your private home in Germany, no one kicks your door in, no Gestapo takes you away - if you do it outside is a different story
Fourth: I'm all against censorship, we have ridiculous censorship laws here regarding nazi symbols and propaganda. You don't become a Nazi from looking at a swastika or reading a book. I even think the literary masterpiece "Mein Kampf" should be allowed here, prohibition makes it only interesting and the pro-Nazis can whine: "We are so suppressed!" However showing Nazi symbolism in the public is a kick into the face of all victims of fascist crimes and their families which we, believe it or not, have here in this Nazi country.
Fifth: give Nazis a place to live! Let them have their own land, maybe give them a hellhole like Leverkusen (ugliest town in Germany) - or whatever pice of land you can share. They can march all day or just sit around and hate. The problem is: they don't stop there. After getting bored with themselfes they like to expand and look for some "Lebensraum", or just beat down the next un-aryan person around them. We had this little experiment here, that they had their country, the result is well known.

I may disagree with Skybird in some matters, but he brought it exactly to the point: if you give the enemys of free speech the freedom to abolish it, they will try do so

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