Chicago to Supreme court .. "we cant hear you"

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Molon Labe

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

I've heard that somewhere before...

[U-104]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

I doubt a child's life has been hurt either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbi...chool_massacre

it was illegal to have a gun in columbine high school

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Rest assured, they are well aware of it, but they see it in a different way than you or I probably do, and the courts occassionally side with them. Many people, not just democrats, see the Constitutution as a "living" document, and I don't mean "living" in the sense that it can be amended, I mean "living" in the sense that it can be interpreted in the context of whatever happens to be going on at the time.

How to put this...... Some people think of the Constitution as law, and others think of it as a set of guidelines. There is Constitutional law, and there is law based upon interpretation of the Constitution. The two can, at times, have remarakably little to do with each other.


@Molon Labe - Will you please be my friend? <puppy-dog eyes> I'm trying to become a criminal defense lawyer and I could really use the perspective of someone who is a real lawyer from time to time, especially once I get my prereqs out of the way.

Its the same dumb **** as people seeing the Bible as something you can interpret depending on what the situation is and what you want the outcome to be.

They see what they want to see, and unfortunately for us the entire Democratic Party save a few good ones, see the world without a U.S.A and are doing everything within and without their power to make it so.

For the sake of our country I vote that we line every single on of them up and put a piece of lead squarely between their eyes. And at least impeach this raving lunatic that we have in office. So we can expunge his "Nobel peace prize winning contributions to humanity" (i.e jack ****) and re-write it. I mean its clear the Dems "rigged" the election, and not by counting votes. This my friends is the true meaning of ****** rigging. They knew that if they put a Black man on the ticket that would get a sure win for them. And of course it would, because they expected 90% of the black community to vote because of color (which most of them did, not all) and not leadership, experience and knowledge which is important to a real leader.

Another important thing about being a leader. Take responsibility, I love how the Dems keep blaming everything on Bush. I haerd them blaming the BP spill in GoM on Bush. The sad and pathetic thing is there are stupid people out there that believe it.

No racism is implied(I am far far from racist). If you are of said color and can't handle that word, then practice your preaching and gtfover it.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by MrYenko

It's a calculated decision, that every FREE man needs to make for himself. If you choose not to, that is your decision, and I fully support it, a free society is one of choice. It is NOT your place, or the government's, to make that decision for me, or anyone else.

AMEN!

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Dutch

For the sake of our country I vote that we line every single on of them up and put a piece of lead squarely between their eyes.

Well, at least you want this voted on. Have to keep it legal.

No racism is implied(I am far far from racist). If you are of said color and can't handle that word, then practice your preaching and gtfover it.

Maybe not racist, no. Moron strikes a nicer chord.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Dutch

I mean its clear the Dems "rigged" the election, and not by counting votes. This my friends is the true meaning of __________

Classy. Real classy. Well, at least we know where you stand. I'm sure Stormfront would love your brand of cleverness.

They knew that if they put a Black man on the ticket that would get a sure win for them.

Yeah because that worked out so well for Jesse Jackson, Alan Keyes, Shirley Chisolm, and Al Sharpton.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Molon Labe

There is no point in having a constitution unless its meaning is constant. The purpose of a constitution establish the boundaries of a government's power. It is a contract between the people and the government. If the government gets to change those limits, to change the terms of the contract whenever they see fit, the document is a joke.

Not whenever they see fit, it should be beyond the reach of daily politics and individuals' opportunistic interests, yes. But it must be possible to change it nevertheless, because any constitution always is beign formed from the context of the time in which it was created. But you want high hurdles for that, yes. If you ban the poption to chnagea cojmnstitution alltogether, then you fix it for centuries and millenias to comem in ignorrance of all chnbage taking place - and then it is only a question of time before the rules of such a constitition form a tyranny in itself. everything in nature changes, constantly, and we must adopt to these changes. If we supress chnage alltogether and deny it, we cause stagnation, standstill, lacking developement, and finally death.

That is true for religious text that claim eternal validity and everlasting truth. And that is true for poltiical law-sets and constitutions as well. A content of such texts may be fitting in the beginning, or not, and text's quality may differ in ther speed at which they loose validty. But falling out of the contexts that created the thinking behind these texts they all do. Even the German or the American constitution or the Code Napoleon or the German BGB, even the Bible or the Quran.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Well, at least you want this voted on. Have to keep it legal.

Maybe not racist, no. Moron strikes a nicer chord.

Of course we have to keep it legal. Thats the whole point. So I am a moron simply because I chose to use a word (in which to me, there is not race meant) that they use all the time referring to themselves? Yea, sure who is the moron now.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Classy. Real classy. Well, at least we know where you stand. I'm sure Stormfront would love your brand of cleverness.



Yeah because that worked out so well for Jesse Jackson, Alan Keyes, Shirley Chisolm, and Al Sharpton.

Sure I bet he would like it no more than I enjoy being called cracker and racists or moronic.

Of course it didn't but those people also didn't have George W. Bush(Democrats self proclaimed worst President ever.) as the president before them

Chicago could get around this. The 2nd amendment states a person is allowed to bear arms, but it says nothing about.... bullets!



Honestly I think every American CITIZEN should have the right to carry a loaded firearm. Hell, I think it should be against the law NOT to carry a firearm on yourself. it would solve more problems believe it or not. This is why...

Why don't people generally shoot at the cops? Because cops have guns and they'll shoot back!

My father always taught me to stand up to bullies and punch them right in the mouth if they ever got in my face and IT WORKED! Why? Simple. Nobody wants to swallow their own teeth! And once a bully knows you'll stand up and fight him he won't mess with you anymore in the future. Even if you get your butt whooped by him he will most likely not want to tangle with you again just because he'll know he'll have a fight on his hands and he might not be so lucky with you the next time!

People need to understand that the criminals in this country are AGAINST gun owner rights. Why? Because they don't want to break into your home and get shot! They''ll have their gun on them of course (because they're criminals and don't give a damn) but they want to ensure you're defenseless when they commit their illegal activities. It's like stealing candy from a baby.

Guns are like nuclear bombs. They are a great deterrent that are never used until there's a need to use them.

Imagine all the murders and rapes that could have been attempts instead! Right now American's are defenseless and BS laws like Chicago is passing completely undermine the fact that CITIZENS are not the problem... The CRIMINALS are!

[U-104]

thorn69

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by U-104

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbi...chool_massacre

it was illegal to have a gun in columbine high school

What we really need are criminals who obey the law. That would solve so many of our problems.

[Blood_splat]

If people would just practice safe sex.

[SteamWake]

Chicago back in the news again ...

The Chicago government is taking another shot at enforcing sweeping handgun restrictions, bringing a new law into effect Monday meant to comply with the Supreme Court's landmark ruling last month while still regulating firearms purchases.

effectively struck down the city's decades-old handgun ban. City leaders described the ordinance as necessary to prevent gun violence from breaking out across Chicago.

Yea... that decade old handgun ban really turned things around for the windy city now it will just be bedlam

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...-court-ruling/

[Platapus]

Well Chicago is only doing what the Supreme Court of the United States told them to do.

and the circle continues.