Chicago to Supreme court .. "we cant hear you"

[Molon Labe]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Even constitutions must not - and better should not - be considered to be engraved in stone until the end of times. It's just a question of time until they become a basis for tyranny themselves that way - because the world will not stop changing. We must adopt. If we allow freezing ourselves, we are already doomed.

However.

There is no point in having a constitution unless its meaning is constant. The purpose of a constitution establish the boundaries of a government's power. It is a contract between the people and the government. If the government gets to change those limits, to change the terms of the contract whenever they see fit, the document is a joke.

We have addressed the need to adapt with the times in our Constitution by having an Amendment process. By amending it as need be, and by leaving it be and living under the rest, all generations reaffirm the contract our founding generation made with the government. Our Constitution represents the collective wisdom of all our generations and limits the damage that can be done by the rash emotion of any of them individually.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Molon Labe

There is no point in having a constitution unless its meaning is constant. The purpose of a constitution establish the boundaries of a government's power. It is a contract between the people and the government. If the government gets to change those limits, to change the terms of the contract whenever they see fit, the document is a joke.

Not whenever they see fit, it should be beyond the reach of daily politics and individuals' opportunistic interests, yes. But it must be possible to change it nevertheless, because any constitution always is beign formed from the context of the time in which it was created. But you want high hurdles for that, yes. If you ban the poption to chnagea cojmnstitution alltogether, then you fix it for centuries and millenias to comem in ignorrance of all chnbage taking place - and then it is only a question of time before the rules of such a constitition form a tyranny in itself. everything in nature changes, constantly, and we must adopt to these changes. If we supress chnage alltogether and deny it, we cause stagnation, standstill, lacking developement, and finally death.

That is true for religious text that claim eternal validity and everlasting truth. And that is true for poltiical law-sets and constitutions as well. A content of such texts may be fitting in the beginning, or not, and text's quality may differ in ther speed at which they loose validty. But falling out of the contexts that created the thinking behind these texts they all do. Even the German or the American constitution or the Code Napoleon or the German BGB, even the Bible or the Quran.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Well, at least you want this voted on. Have to keep it legal.

Maybe not racist, no. Moron strikes a nicer chord.

Of course we have to keep it legal. Thats the whole point. So I am a moron simply because I chose to use a word (in which to me, there is not race meant) that they use all the time referring to themselves? Yea, sure who is the moron now.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Classy. Real classy. Well, at least we know where you stand. I'm sure Stormfront would love your brand of cleverness.



Yeah because that worked out so well for Jesse Jackson, Alan Keyes, Shirley Chisolm, and Al Sharpton.

Sure I bet he would like it no more than I enjoy being called cracker and racists or moronic.

Of course it didn't but those people also didn't have George W. Bush(Democrats self proclaimed worst President ever.) as the president before them

Chicago could get around this. The 2nd amendment states a person is allowed to bear arms, but it says nothing about.... bullets!



Honestly I think every American CITIZEN should have the right to carry a loaded firearm. Hell, I think it should be against the law NOT to carry a firearm on yourself. it would solve more problems believe it or not. This is why...

Why don't people generally shoot at the cops? Because cops have guns and they'll shoot back!

My father always taught me to stand up to bullies and punch them right in the mouth if they ever got in my face and IT WORKED! Why? Simple. Nobody wants to swallow their own teeth! And once a bully knows you'll stand up and fight him he won't mess with you anymore in the future. Even if you get your butt whooped by him he will most likely not want to tangle with you again just because he'll know he'll have a fight on his hands and he might not be so lucky with you the next time!

People need to understand that the criminals in this country are AGAINST gun owner rights. Why? Because they don't want to break into your home and get shot! They''ll have their gun on them of course (because they're criminals and don't give a damn) but they want to ensure you're defenseless when they commit their illegal activities. It's like stealing candy from a baby.

Guns are like nuclear bombs. They are a great deterrent that are never used until there's a need to use them.

Imagine all the murders and rapes that could have been attempts instead! Right now American's are defenseless and BS laws like Chicago is passing completely undermine the fact that CITIZENS are not the problem... The CRIMINALS are!

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