WW II Magazine review of SH5

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by M4XDmG

I really HAD problems with ladders at first. It was a big problem and annoyed me much. Now I don't know why it was so hard, but it was.

The game workls differently that a lot of 3D environments, in that if you look up at the hatch you want to go to, then you can't 'engage' on the ladder. Now you know where the hatch is, you just go for the ladder instead of looking up. It caused a few people problems, due to the design choice they made.

[Faamecanic]

Originally Posted by pythos

I had no idea that there is a magazine in circulation about WWII. That is so odd to me for some reason. How many times do they go over the same stories, I wonder. I wonder who subscribes.

I subscribe.... Im waiting for next months issue to see if anything about the war changed since last month!

In between magazine deliveries I watch the HISTORY and MILITARY channel just to make sure the Allies still win and Axis loose!!

[Brag]

SHV fans should be used to negative reviews. I don't remember reading one wsingle positive review of this game.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by pythos

As far as the review, yea, it is sorely lacking and showed evidence that it was the un patched un modded version being reviewed.

Here i would like to point out, that the game (any game really) should stand on its own merits, and not have to rely on user created mods in order to get a better review.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by pythos

I had no idea that there is a magazine in circulation about WWII. That is so odd to me for some reason. How many times do they go over the same stories, I wonder. I wonder who subscribes.

I do.

And I haven't gotten this issue yet.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Magnum

I play without mods, as I wrote few post ago. Old people tend to have some serious issues with orientation in 3D spaces, I remember many complained that they cant exit the sub as they don't know how to use the ladder I mean, c'mon .. that's the only problem with SH5? Orientation, difficulties in moving around the sub and talk with the crew? I saw nothing mentioned about the God damn retard (pre-patch) AI, the boring campaign and the stupid missions.. you know, the real problems. Those guys should quit playing video games, or at least write reviews about.

Anyway, I doubt Ubi give a frak about that review, the biggest hits in the stomach was from the Eurogamer and Subsim review, those hurts really hard and is really bad for business. So if any1 want a good and comprehensive review, read those 2 mentioned... this one is a joke.

And just what do you consider old? I've been playing PC games since they were invented, so does that make me old?

How about young people have problems with patience and bed wetting, or did I go too young?

[mobucks]

Originally Posted by pythos

I had no idea that there is a magazine in circulation about WWII. That is so odd to me for some reason. How many times do they go over the same stories, I wonder. I wonder who subscribes.

I dont subscribe but i will tell you who does. Armchair warriors. Veterans.

Not people who sit around debating wether we won the war or not COUGH THE SOUTH COUGH JAJA

Anyway theres a magazine out there for everything, it was the old internet. There were things like "Tablesaw Users Weekly" and "Lightbulb Design!"

But your comment did make me laugh.

[Zedi]

These veterans could do a more useful review of SH. Instead of bitching about how hard is to go up/down on the ladder and talk with the crew, they could make a review about the realism. I would be really interested to see what a ww2 veteran would have to say about the realism in the game.

We had few debates about the AI tactics, about the plane attacks, how real is the torpedo damage, explosions and many stuff like these. So I suggest that next time.. let the nephew play the game, veterans just sit and watch. Then write a good review about what is wrong or what is right in the perspective of historical accuracy and realism level. Dunno if is any real ex u-boot sailor still alive, but if is.. I would be very interested in his opinion about SH realism level. Not about drm, not about climbing the ladder, but about historical accuracy. Yeah, I would even pay to read something like that :P

[Faamecanic]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Here i would like to point out, that the game (any game really) should stand on its own merits, and not have to rely on user created mods in order to get a better review.

Hence why its PC Gamer's policy to review a game on release, and not RE-review AFTER patches and especially not with user created MODS.

Just like SH3 and 4, SH5 can NOT stand on its own (not even close) with no patches.... which is a sad state to release a game in and unacceptable and also unexcusable.

And for the record ...I had no problems with the 3D and ladders.... and Im an 40 yr old...so I must not be "old" enough to loose my spatial awareness in 3d games (been playing them hard core since Wolfenstien 3d days).

[mobucks]

i had problems with ladders. Im 25. id say 90 percent of games with ladders, in a FPS environment, you can look up a ladder and climb it.

In SH5 i felt really stupid when i realized you have to stand like a robot eyes level to the ladder to climb it like OSHA is watching or something.

Nothing to do with ages, everything to do with poor design

[don1reed]

I'm 70ish. I find the ladders in SH5 a breeze...it's real ladders that I have trouble with.

The article was written for a different audience than ... us.

Modders have, and always will...

RULE.

[IanC]

Originally Posted by don1reed

I'm 70ish. I find the ladders in SH5 a breeze...it's real ladders that I have trouble with.

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by Brag

SHV fans should be used to negative reviews. I don't remember reading one wsingle positive review of this game.

I suspect most of the negativity stems from the DRM, regardless of claims to the contrary. If there had been no online requirement, there may have been a much more positive attitude toward the game.

It's always the same, focus on one negative aspect, blow it out of all proportion, and don't even bother to highlight the good features. This is one of the many reasons why I distrust most reviews/reviewers, most of them don't have a bloody clue what they are rabbiting on about!